I’m a convicted felon I got my gun rights restored and I’ve been helping other people get their rights restored. It’s amazing thing a story like this. He is the perfect example of a law abiding Citizen, who has changed his life for the better and deserves to have a firearm. Thank you for bringing more awareness to this topic.
That's so awesome to hear I'm in the process now of getting my criminal record expunged, I'm using a lawyer but going over all my old convictions really embarrassed me for all the foolish stuff I did when I was younger I was addicted to heroin for about ten years an did some really dirty stuff an I'm thankful for my wife an the direction she helped me steer my life an getting older an having kids really puts things into perspective I'm so thankful for where I am because I knew where I was at one point an I only want the best for my sons as do most parents
I just completed probation a couple months ago, and want to get mine restored as well, as of now Missouri law says I have to wait 7 years, so that sucks, but I check every 6 mos. to a year to see if they've lowered the waiting time. Congratulations on getting your rights back man, hopefully I can join you soon 😂
@@nativemiami77 I’m a convicted felon in Florida. I was able to get my basic rights back. After 10 years staying clean I went for executive clemency and was able to get my governmental Pardon and can now carry and purchase firearms. But I cannot get my record expunged. Florida doesn’t expunge felonies. But at least I’m legal
Listening to him tell the story, should tell anyone there is NOTHING "romantic" about having to defend yourself in a life and death situation. Thank you both for sharing this.
Well said. I would say that for some the enthusiasm is needed to get them started on their training journey, and I will also say that if they are training properly with the right people, that enthusiasm with transfer to focus and dedication. Just my thoughts.
True, it's not romantic or glorified. In situations like that, speed and accuracy count. Practice, train and always be prepared. Superior firepower is also an asset.
Yes, life isn't a film, TV, or book fiction scene. You likely won't have time to think about anything, or to exchange witty dialogue with your opponent. Watch CCTV footage of actual confliucts on the street, it's generally all over one way or the other in a few seconds.
This is one of the best videos I’ve seen. This guy touched on everything. Even his weaknesses. He realized he didn’t have a great grip. Amazing interview. God kept him in His hands.
retired LE 36year was Required range Qual every 4 months. (Sig 226 or 229. Now retired still shoot very month. Been in shooting situations several times due to my street enfo4cement training THIS GUY I REAL. HES NO BS. May god bles# him to live with his situation. He is still not thru this he needs to get professional guid@nice to put this to rest. THOSE ISSUES HE TALKS ABOUT, SCENE SLOWING DOWN, NOT HEARING THE SHOT. ETC. Are real ….YOU MUST HAVE A LAWYER WALKING DOWN THE PATH WITH YOU. DONT RAMBLE THINK OF WHAT YOUR GOING TO SAY BEFOR YOU SAY IT. HE was in A STATE OF SHOCK . I really respect him for sharing his story. Stove pipe happened b3cause he had a limp wrist. Hornady critic@l Defense is great Ammo. Critic@l duty is issue for FBI…
I 190% advocate for carrying with a round in the chamber. With that said, being new to firearms and conceal carrying, it took me a while carrying without a round in the chamber for a while to become comfortable enough to do so. I was very anxious at first. I almost considered not carrying at all because of the anxiety. I would also go "well, I'm just going to the store so I don't need to bring it. I'm just going to the theatre, what could happen?". That kind of thinking is like what's the point of carrying at all if you're not always carrying? So carrying without one in the chamber helped me curb some anxiety while also getting in the habit of doing so. Also, I was under no misunderstanding that I was going to pull it out, rack the slide, and John Wick it. Again, carry one in the chamber. Although, not doing so helped me to become confident enough that I could do so without anxiety.
I’m an ex-MP and military armorer and when we train soldiers we train that if you’re carrying a fire arm outside of a training environment then it unit is always loaded and assumed as such. Tactically, we never have a loaded mag and empty chamber. If the mag is in, you load that chamber. I’ve taught my wife and son as such. Kudos for you spreading this much needed truth.
well said, his shot from the hip seemed like it managed to startle the robber, and throw him off for a second, even if its a wild shot. it gives you those precious milliseconds to get a proper grip and follow up shots.
One of the biggest take aways besides keeping one in the pipe, is situational awareness. In the times we live in, an attack could come at any time, if you aren't doing a constant threat assessment when you're out in public, then you aren't taking your's or your loved ones' safety serious enough.
You were not "weakened". Your brain and body was sending signals faster than muscles can react. This is why muscle memory from training is important. The attacker was slower because he was not expecting counter attack.
I'm pretty sure he stated that he had trained a lot, but it all went out the window at the moment of truth. He then said he'd be adjusting his training and focusing on physical and mental health. Muscle memory appears to be a myth.
Muscle memory is no myth. Even if he felt like it went out the window, all his training definitely helped a lot. If you didnt have muscle memory, you'd have to conciously think through every action. He would never have managed to pull off drawing on the drop
@@B_R_ he didn't have enough muscle memory to be perfect, since this was first time under real attack. If he didn't train, he would've been frozen in place or dropped the gun from the snag.
All due respect, and I definitely agree training is important, muscle memory was never mentioned at all in this video. In fact, in his own words, he got tunnel vision and all of the skills everyone assumes they develop and can draw upon in a crisis were non existent. He didn't even hear any of his own shots, and was unaware until later that he was fired upon by someone in the car. I think we all develop training routines based upon common sense that we believe will help us if the need ever arises. It turned out not to be true in this instance. I think sometimes we are projecting our own fantasies about how things will go in a self defense situation, but Chris pretty much debunked that by his own admission. You can insert your own speculation about what helped or saved his life, but it was simply having a round chambered, by his own account.
You may never get a second chance. Thank God this guy was prepared. Recently I was downtown Indianapolis, was walking to a work trade show in broad daylight (noon time), when crossing the street 3 guys in a car in the intersection (first one at the light) was spouting profanity at me. I ignore them and changed my path to go 3 cars behind them. As I almost reached the sidewalk, one guy sprung for the backseat with a ski mask on. This absolutely changed the entire dynamic of the situation for me. However I was totally unarmed being work hours. It was then I had to revert to another type of training figuring out how I was going to survive whatever was about to unfold. As I crossed the street I was already aware of my surroundings and what options I had. I ran into a loaded parking lot to put distance between myself and the person. Thank God I did as I had a 30 foot advantage headstart. I ducked about 5 rows in behind a tire and was able to observe him from under the cars. As he could not see where I had run he was confused on his next move. By the grace of God other cars started honking their horns for the car to move and the guy retreated. But, my ordeal was not over. As this guy said, who else was there? Were they going to circle back? I went further into the parking lot and reassessed my options for any weapon I may use, what escape routes did I have, and was there a place of safety within my reach. Luckily they didn't return, but I never let my gaurd down as if they weren't coming back. Obviously I was OK, but that situation changed me. The ski mask elevated the situation to absolute threat level and being in fear of my life. By this point, I was very familiar carrying loaded and chambered. My primary carry was a .38 Ultra Light snub nose. But this video has made me realize, is 6 shots enough? Is a .38 my best option. Should I go back to my FNX40 with 17 rounds? Is the .40 the best gun based on size and weight? Is a 9mm the one I need? I have been pouring through videos to learn. I have switched to my 9mm for now, but I have reservations on the stopping power, but nobody likes to leak, so a 9mm is effective. And yes I have watch the videos on the 9mm guy, 40 guy, and 45 guy. This month alone I have purchased 10 new guns. Some because I just wanted a .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, and the Taurus Judge because why not?? But, I plan to really get more serious about taking a class on self defense. I have already started assessing my carry position and the holsters I use. More importantly I probably do about 50 repetitions practing my draw daily (all 100% cleared and unloaded). I have found it more difficult to get my shirt out of the way than I ever thought it would be. I found myself worrying so much about speed that I forgot the safety, didn't make a good purchase on my hold, and you name it all the mistakes were happening. So, I cannot stress to myself and others after learning more and practicing more can absolutely save your life and others. Gun ownership and carrying comes at a higher price than we really think. It is up to us to be safe, to be prepared, and train.. train.. train.. and train even more. Take aways for me? Drawing from the holster to get the muscle memory down. Practice hip shot. Shoot with my defense rounds (people always thought I was crazy burning expensive rounds). But as Chris said, you have to know what your gun is going to do. Defensive rounds can be higher grain or higher velocity and/or you never want to learn to late that the fancy hollow points you love may not cycle through your firearm when you need it most. Be safe, be prepared, and train. Because when it gets real, that is not the time you are going to be Jerry Miculek (spelling) and pop off 30 rounds on center.
This man’s training saved his life. This has really put things into perspective for me. I am currently down the rabbit hole with: lights, optics and other “cool,” items for pistols. Training is key. You can’t teach someone to swim while they’re drowning
You don't get lights because they're "cool". They're as necessary as carrying with one in the chamber. Crime still happens at night, so how are you gonna aim at a target you can't see? No amount of training will fix that.
Would love to see more videos like this. Great to hear firsthand accounts from regular folks who have had to defend themselves with a firearm and take the time to just let them talk and tell their story. Also great to hear stories of folks who have made some mistakes but got their life straightened out and became productive citizens. Very inspirational.
Big thanks to Chris for sharing his story and for Colion for giving Chris the platform to spread the information out there. Things happen quick in a gunfight or combat (the later of which I have a little experience with) and at the time it always feels so surreal and strangely time dialated, even though things are moving at light speed. Only through training do we have the ability to react, if I’d been pressed into combat with little or no training I have no doubt I’d have stood there watching the “pretty lights” as tracers stitched up and down the side of our vehicle instead of doing the dozens of things me and my gun truck crew did over the next few seconds, from calling out targets, engaging them, and sending reports to higher over the radio. Personal defense or Defense of others is no different, without even a modicum of training you will freeze no matter how many times you “war game” it in your head.
I didn’t used to carry with a round in the chamber. Then a buddy explained why I should. I racked the slide and left it that way. Then one night it happened that someone tried to carjack me and he opened fire. I pulled mine and pulled the trigger. Never thought about if it was ready to go just aimed and shot. I am very glad that it was ready to go.
Greetings to you all: I can't think of any reason why any person who carries a concealed weapon would NOT carry without a round in the chamber. I am a retired Detroit police officer, 1966 to 1991 in the good old revolver days. The ultimate safety of any weapon, revolver or semi-auto, is the individual person carrying it. A revolver loaded with all chambers full is just as safe as a semi-auto with one in the pipe. Those very precious semi-seconds saved are the difference between going home safely or not. Love your videos for a long time now, keep on spreading the word to all our carrying friends.
Regardless of profession (we on this thread) encourage all law abiding citizens to carry as everyone is always at a degree of risk of being a victim of a life threatening situation. In the late 70s early 80s (LEO) I carried the S&W Model 66 stainless revolver(s) so if you had 6 rounds in the cylinder you "had one in the chamber". The 1986 FBI Miami shooting incident moved everyone in law enforcement to Semi Auto pistols of varied calibers and models so "one in the chamber" came into being even though Semi Autos had been used for decades already by the military. I currently carry varied semi auto pistols with one in the chamber and indeed if something comes up you'll not always have time to rack and shoot. The key to me is having a quality firearm you're comfortable with so you're confident it will not fire accidently. Since I was 16 years old and on a pistol team until now in my mid 60s I've never had a firearm go off without me pulling the trigger. One key point the gentleman made is he noticed many things that perked his awareness of the situation prior to noting the perpetrator attempting the robbery. A couple years ago my wife and I took a refresher self defense course that did not involve firearms but other tactics to defend yourself. A key in that course was situational awareness is a key to not becoming a victim. A main consideration today is put down your smartphone, folks that live on their smartphone like it's an attachment to their brain are easy victims because the only thing they are aware of is their phone.
I used to carry without a chambered round. I had a a trainer challenge me to go to the range and time my draw with one in, and one out. Remembering the 3-3-3 rule, I used most of my 3 seconds just pulling and racking. I've been a believer since.
I've gotten more out of this video than you will ever know. Please continue the work that you do , and you have my utmost respect, and I cannot thank you enough for what you do for us. PEACE!
Yo, Colion, these types of interviews with personal survivor debriefs are informative and compelling. Hearing a firsthand account of his experience in the moment and his thought process and dealing with the aftermath is unfathomably useful. You should do more of these interviews.
Yes it should be told if only we could get the media to tell these stories but as it's been stated it is not on the medias agenda to get these stories told
This is such a great video. We need more videos like this, and we need to hear more stories from people like Chris. He covered an immense amount of topics in a single video. Carrying a round in the chamber, magazine capacity, auditory exclusion, difficulty in training for every scenario with the different types of clothing, importance of muscle memory, gun size and accessories, restoration of rights, how panic ensues, leaving the scene, etc. This is one of the most educational self defense videos I’ve seen in a long time. I am happy that Chris is here to tell it.
Kudos to him. I agree that anyone, even felons who have paid their debt to society should have all their rights back. We have a system to punish people, those same people need to have a path to get things in order and I’m glad he did!!
It's a system to keep people down instead of fixing them. I think all felons should get there rights back but repeated offenders should have very bad consequences. People should have a chance to change but shouldn't be protected after they made that choice again.
One reason on why I try to not carry an optic on a CCW. If I need my pistol that close and that fast I will probably not be needing to aim past 3 yards. Pointing the pistol in that direction with irons will be "adequate". Biggest lesson I have learned in firearms is what is best fit for the APPLICATION you are going to use that tool for.
I have a lot of respect for this gentleman. He was obviously not proud of what he had to do and was somewhat reluctant to tell his story but he did an excellent job of recounting exactly what happened and he was able to explain his thoughts as it went down.
I was always worried about carrying with 1 in the chamber. The thought of it going off scared me to death. I did my own research and as I got more comfortable with just the thought of carrying a gun I realized the only way it would go off is if the trigger was “actuated” but still I felt uneasy. Then I read an article or saw a video (I can’t say for certain which one or by whom) said just to be comfortable with the idea carry your gun like you always do (good belt and holster) and rack the slide WITHOUT a chambered round. And see if the gun goes click. After I tried that for a few days I realized it wouldn’t and now I always have one in the pipe. Baby steps.
I've been in an attempt 2 man armed robbery and had to use my firarm, hitting someone, and yes, everything you said is the truth about the stress and duress it legit. The hyper awareness time slows down and wanting to leave the scene afterward. Being so cereal, being disoriented from the gunfire. I wouldn't wish this type of incident on no one. It's not a bad honor, but you should tell others so they know what to do if they're in a situation like yours. I became an instructor after my incident. You did what you needed to do to survive, and that is what is commendable.
You need to do more interviews like this. I enjoyed hearing this man's story. I would love to hear from other everyday citizens who have survived and defended themselves or loved ones from a criminal with a gun.
I am from the same area as this guy, and I have carried for over 30 years, and always carried with a round in the chamber. I also carry a Ruger 380 max with extra mag as backup. At times I also carry an NAA PUG with the 22WMR cylinder in it. No such thing as overkill. Now if I'm running a mile up to the 7-11 I carry the Max with extra 12 shot mag, and the NAA. I have never carried with an empty chamber. My step dad was a collector, and a deputy in Eastern Washington. He then opened a gun store when he retired. He taught me well.
Chris is an awesome dude! Hes made a few pieces of jewelry for me. Hes a good genuine guy and turned his life around completely. Very successful and down to earth! Glad youre still here man!
Colion, you videos have a lot of impact in the 2A community. This is an eye opener. You never think it'll happen to you until it does. I have always carried with a round in the chamber and always will. A lot of of good points were presented based on his experience and will definitely start shooting my defense ammo through all of my mags more often. I'm glad he got life turned around and is now one of the good guys. Great video!
This was really moving to me, as someone who has dealt with self defense situations and understands how he feels. It’s really hard to talk about these things, even though they profoundly affect your life. I’m glad he had the courage to talk about it. And to put himself out there as a felon who has had his rights restored is even more courageous.
I was terrified to carry with one in the chamber. Terrified! But slowly, I trained myself to know my gun. Shoot it constantly. And became comfortable. But I hope and pray, I never have to use it. And if I do use it, to have the courage to do what needs to be done.
I always carry with a round on the chamber. But this gave me a lot of good points to work on. Thank you Collin and glad a viewer is alive because of you.
Thanks for sharing. I have ALWAYS carried with one in the pipe. Been 50 years now and I have not had to pull the trigger on anyone. I feel lucky for that.
After I realized the importance of a CCW but before I went through the process and actually got my license, I observed friends that carried with a round in the chamber and I was a little leary of that. Later, I found suitable carry guns and holsters that allowed for carrying in this condition in a safe way. Now I don't think about it and always have one in the pipe. This man's story is a very important one for any one who carries to experience. Thank you Chris, for sharing. And thank you Colion for doing every single thing you do. Bless you, man.
Carried leather for decades, but Kydex is really the way to go. No snaps, no buttons, just draw.. theyre more reliable than ever, and the custom molding process makes accidents much less frequent than they can with leather. Had my piece fall out sitting in the bathroom twice, sitting in chairs, and with the kydex that stopped happening.
@@marcrhodes3382 I'm currently using a DeSantis holster for pocket carry. It's got rubber nubby texture all over the outside so it stays put on the draw, and the trigger guard is completely covered. Kydex seems like a great way to go for OWB or IWB, though. Do you find issues with it scratching your guns? An EDC gun is an EDC gun, I guess, but I still like my guns to look good.
I had to learn this lesson in an uncomfortable way, but not at risk to my life. I thought I was hot shit because I was an Army Cavalry Scout, an excellent rifle shot out to 300m, and a constant practitioner of situational awareness. But I received no substantive pistol training as a Cavalry Grunt. I’ve learned most of my pistol tactics as a civilian from former mil and LE instructors who adapted to civilian world combat tactics. I began to take classes and train with a pistol in the very different means and methods of “real world” pistol self defense tactics. But as someone who had never had an ND and saw many, I always felt uncomfortable carrying one in the chamber. At first with 1911s out of fear of dropping and slam firing it at the wrong angles, then with Glocks. Then one day, a man in the dark turned out of the shadows into me to stare at me as I was on a night run. despite carrying, I realized in that moment that my Israeli Drawstroke would have robbed me of space and time I knew I needed. I ran past the guy and he eventually turned away and walked off (took a different route home). I’ve carried my Austrian-American friend with one in the pipe ever since then, and practice the Tueller Drill draw to keep my draw time under 1.5s every week. Fortunately there was nothing this serious, but it taught me a lesson I’ll never forget. I’m very glad this man got his rights back after paying his debt to society. I wish the genuinely penitent offenders who committed to rehabilitation and were of sound mind would. They paid the price. They shouldn’t lose their Right to Vote or Defend if they’ve finished their sentence and are not likely to reoffend.
@@christianpoulin02 My opinion has shifted entirely from Israeli to Pre- Chambered for modern striker-fired weapons with internal safeties. With a 1911, I’d probably still just practice with sweeping the thumb to disengage the thumb safety a part of drawstroke training if I still carried one.
Just do yourself a favor and always carry kydex. No snaps or buttons, just kydex. I have a nice leather holster collection that I admire but never use unless I'm hunting. Kydex is the fastest and most secure method. Your draw should be less than a second. Practice constantly, thousands of draws, every week, and you'll notice that you'll be able to clear away your jacket and shirt, and pull out much faster than 1.5. Its all about repetition and muscle memory. .good luck
I watched a video where they took a pistol loaded with one in the chamber and dropped it from 30ft. The gun did not go off. Ultimately, it's what you feel comfortable doing. It really gets down to draw time and if you can draw faster than another person that already knows his/her intentions.
To both of you. Thank you for this interview. I am a new CCW owner (not from USA but rather Africa where our laws are not the same etc but principal is). I have started carrying recently and was under the impression that a full mag, empty spout and safety on was the way to go. This interview has opened my eyes drastically to the need to keep 1 up all the time. I carry appendix and still need A Lot of training and as people say it's a mind set. So I will too be changing up to one in the spout thanks to this very informative video. Thank you again. 🇿🇲
If you carry appendix you definitely need extra training. If you carry appendix you have to MAKE SURE you carry with one in the chamber because having it front and center means you have it ready to go and would be useless to have an empty chamber if it's that accessible and ready. Props to you for recognizing that you need more training and godspeed to you
I carry appendix just on a comfortability level I print a lot less and everything I like appendix but I'm not ignorant to the fact that I'm just starting my training so what is the issue with appendix@@masonrainwater2477
My dad doesn’t believe in a round in the chamber. When I started to carry I watch many videos and decide to always carry one in the chamber with a good hostler. I haven’t till this day needed it but I can say that every second matters and I will also be going to sign up more training as my shot isn’t the best. Thanks for sharing these videos always
Yo Chris, thanks for getting on here and telling the story. I have a military background and know how hard it can be to re live that. That's also an awesome token for Colion. If you made that you do some awesome work.
I recommend your channel to everyone your content is first rate. Everyone in our family carries except for our grandchildren and our dogs. I'm constantly forwarding your videos to my sons and daughter. This gentleman's situation is why USCCA is such a good idea
Too bad for Washington folks, as far as I know the USCCA won't get involved there. I absolutely love the PNW and can't go back after having the "Florida Freedom"!!!
This guy is a good interview. He tells his story honestly and really describes how terrifying it can be to be forced to use your weapon for self defense and how stressful it is and how it effects you in the moment and afterwards.
I prefer sidecar style holsters for this reason. As rare as it may be to do a mag change in the real world it’s worth it to carry a spare mag in my book. Edit: Made the comment before he mentioned probably not being able to find the mag well but I still like having a spare as I find the holsters more comfortable being wider.
The easiest way to keep a round in the chamber safely is to carry a revolver. If you're that worried about being safe, you're better off with five or six rounds ready to go than seven or more in the mag and nothing in the chamber. Plus revolvers have other advantages: no failures to feed or eject, to fix a dud round all you do is pull the trigger again, and if it's "hammerless" you can fire with it still in a pocket (which also means you can carry it in a pocket). There's a reason most criminals use snubby revolvers: they're concealable, reliable, and easy to use, just what you want in a CCW. A good semi-auto can hold more ammo, reload faster, and if it's a _good_ one it can be _almost_ as reliable as a revolver, but you _have_ to have one in the chamber, and that means you have to be _extra_ careful, and you pretty much always need to carry in a holster, and that means you might just end up leaving the gun at home so you don't have to deal with it.
This dudes honesty about mistakes made was the most important info for me. Also so lucky to not be charged, not getting an attorney first was def a mistake. And the things he learned and is changing is spot on.
I carried without one chambered for a couple months before I got comfortable with one in… it good to study your firearms and know how they work inside and out..
Unreal. Major kudos for him still being with us to share his story and come home to his family. Heard nothing but bad things about Seattle so this sadly comes to no surprise where this happened.
@@edmxero2029 bad reference you still have to pull a pin out and hope it's been serviced. It's not always readily available lol. Buuuuuuut I understand what you were trying to say
@@edmxero2029 do you keep all windows and doors to your home unlocked before going to bed in case of a fire and would want to make it as easy as possible to escape? Also makes it easier for first responders to save you too I know I'm being an ass but it's logically sound and stupid at the same time on par with your comment as well. It just depends sometimes
@@KantoCacho okay but I just dont see where not having a round in the chamber will give you an advantage if youre carrying for defense, like you would for those other scenarios if someone was that serious about fire lol
In respect to his mentioning "never hearing the shots" I can verify that as an avid hunter... Many times after shooting at game as it jumps up before you, you gather your thoughts and then you think, "hey, I never heard the gun go off"...Adrenaline.
These interviews are always valuable. Thanks for bringing them to us, Colion. And Chris - thanks for agreeing to sit down and talk with Colion on the topic. It was clear you're still uncomfortable about that situation, and that its stressful to recall. So, thank you for putting yourself through it and I hope the conversation helps someone else who might survive a similar situation. And congrats for surviving a hostile encounter, for getting your life turned around, and for getting your rights restored. Best of luck to you going forward.
Thank you Colion for always helping people & also thank you Chris for sharing your story with everyone. Always remember training is good but things happened we can't control or plan for. All we can do is save as many people as we can while surviving yourself.
Always learning something! Didn't think much about practicing draw every day. Since I have to carry differently every day will now begin practicing draw every day at least 5 times before leaving the house. Chris's retelling and picturing the poor man in the Texas church shooting (the one time he wore his shirt un-tucked) is eye-opening. Thank you Colion and Chris.
As an Infantry combat vet from Iraq in 2004 when the war was "hot" we called that "slow down time" gut check time or razors edge during a fight. You are so intently focused all of your senses are on stopping the bad guy. You did good bro and I am going online to buy a gold chain from you. Everyone let's buy some of this guy's jewelry!! I will give it to my wife so I can negotiate for another Glock!!
This is an amazing story that got me thinking about a lot of things I have never thought about before. I know this was hard to tell, but trust me, you are helping a lot more than you will ever know. Thank you for sharing.
This is one of the best interviews you've done. It provided valuable insight on a number of concealed carry issues. Thank you, and keep up the great work!
This is GOLD Colion! Thank you. If possible, please do more interviews like this, where the guest breaks down their lethal interactions so we can learn from what they did right or wrong. Obviously nothing that may incriminate them, but since you’re a lawyer Im sure you know whats best. Thank you 🙏
When pilots talk about crashes they say it's like a bunch of slices of swiss cheese, in order to fly to the crash you have to line up several small events that could have prevented the crash, like lining up holes in the cheese slices. I would say the idea applies here. Chris managed to not line up all the holes. Sounds like that one about empty chamber could have been the last one in a series of small bits not going to plan. Thank god he trained and studied to avoid each little problem so he could avoid the crash. As they say, "Any landing you walk away from is pretty good. Not great, but pretty good."
This was very eye opening to listen to I actually felt my heart sink during his story of what happened to him thank God he's ok no one will know what this is like until you go through it I learned some lessons listening to him
Not carrying with a round in the chamber can add two or three seconds to your time to first shot. And that's if you're really good at racking your slide. If you somehow can't manage to get two hands on your gun at the beginning of a gunfight your toast. It just doesn't make any sense.
When Oklahoma first passed concealed carry, none of us were familiar with it. Before that only police and a few private detectives could legally carry. We were all nervous about it. There was hardly any training available. I think that was 1995. To get comfortable I unloaded the gun and cocked it, then inserted a magazine. Each night for a month I checked it and the trigger was never back. So then I started carrying chambered. (It was a Glock 23.) Then I started taking classes and reading Ayoob’s books and articles.
I followed the same process when I got my LTC in Texas in '95. I think it was only 1-2 weeks before I transitioned to carrying with a round in the chamber.
Colion…thank you, hearing this dudes testimony is invaluable, and helps orient other parents and members of this community on how to carry themselves and what to expect. You are becoming a cornerstone and encyclopedia of the 2A community. We appreciate you and what you provide. Thank you
I really appreciate this guy sharing his story. I’ve had to draw my firearm on a guy in Oakland who was running up on me while attempting to pull out his knife. When he saw my gun he stopped in his tracks and luckily no violence happened. That was one of the scariest experiences I’ve ever been in, it really shook me up. I couldn’t imagine what it must have been like in this guy’s shoes.
His story backs up my argument that the factory sights are all you want with your everyday carry. The last thing you want is something to hang or snag coming out if your holster.
This was probably one of the most informative and valueble videos I've watched from you. Thanks Collion for making this content and Chris for sharing your intense experience, I'm sure it wasint easy to re-live it again. 🙏
In the beginning I wasn't Carrying one in the chamber but after practice now I do. Great upload some of us need this advice and story. Thanks for the upload.
I carry without one in the chamber for years then I saw one of Colion video's on having one in the chamber and I knew I was not fast enough and once I was very fast and even then that not fast enough but back then I carried a revolver and it was fully loaded I felt safe because it had a slide bar you had to pull the trigger, I went to an auto and I did like that it had a hammer you cocked didn't like that. I got an Auto now and this one you have to pull the trigger it very simple I like simple.
@@danayen4806 me too I was afraid since young they instill that fear that guns go off. Growing up in liberal New York City where only the criminals had guns. In Texas I feel safer when I carry with one in the chamber.
Finally got to watch this. I feel like this needs to be more widely circulated. Not just for the round in the chamber argument, but all the other aspects of a defense shooting they touched on. So much going on here in a VERY, VERY common scenario where you think you’re safe meeting someone in a public place during the day to sell something. Thank God this guy came out alive and can be there for his son.
This is why I got rid of the Rmr sight. Just couldn't draw it every time without snagging my jacket or shirt. Lasers are much faster for target acquisition, and dont require you to look at your sights. You can focus on the target. And it saves a good 2 to 3/10ths of a second.
I would say an optic is good for a duty weapon drawn from an open carry holster such as police & security officers. For the standard civilian who mostly conceals carry. Stock or a simple flashlight for night scenarios would be good
Amazing interview, Kudos to him for everything he has done to better his life and take his personal safety (as well as his family) seriously. He brings up a lot of great insights into the reality of a self-defense situation. Thank you, sires.
Colion, You are a great 2A Community Champion for what you bring to us. The story and great lessons that Chris provided thru your RUclips platform has really benefited all of us, who carry and train. As an older(73yrold) concealed carrier, I don't get to the range as often as I should, but I do enjoy my USCCA membership training. Please accept my thanks for all that you provide.God bless!
Colion...we in NY cant even obtain carry insurance. At one point they wanted to mandate it and pay PER firearm...basically to price people out of excerisizing their 2nd ammendment rights. But we cant even obtain it as blanket coverage like most states can. Which tells you that it was strictly for the purpose of pricing people out of owning a firearm. NY doesnt want you to be able to defend yourself...either in self defense OR the courtroom god forbid you need to.
Excellent video guys. Hearing a first hand account from a regular guy really brings it home. Especially like the post analysis about keeping the gun stock without the gadgets, practicing with your carry rounds etc…great listen
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A gun in hand is worth more than an entire police force on the phone.
I like that one. Have not heard it before.
Good one 👍
Absolutely
En fait les anti-arme, que disent-ils quand on leur dit :
Donc ce gars n'aurait pas dû avoir d'arme, il aurait dû mourir au nom de ton ideologie ?
💯 agree. You! Are your 1st line of defense and protection
I’m a convicted felon I got my gun rights restored and I’ve been helping other people get their rights restored. It’s amazing thing a story like this. He is the perfect example of a law abiding Citizen, who has changed his life for the better and deserves to have a firearm. Thank you for bringing more awareness to this topic.
That's so awesome to hear I'm in the process now of getting my criminal record expunged, I'm using a lawyer but going over all my old convictions really embarrassed me for all the foolish stuff I did when I was younger I was addicted to heroin for about ten years an did some really dirty stuff an I'm thankful for my wife an the direction she helped me steer my life an getting older an having kids really puts things into perspective I'm so thankful for where I am because I knew where I was at one point an I only want the best for my sons as do most parents
What state? Florida has tough clemency procedures.
I been trying to find a lawyer in my price range to get mine restored.. it's rough now days...
I just completed probation a couple months ago, and want to get mine restored as well, as of now Missouri law says I have to wait 7 years, so that sucks, but I check every 6 mos. to a year to see if they've lowered the waiting time. Congratulations on getting your rights back man, hopefully I can join you soon 😂
@@nativemiami77 I’m a convicted felon in Florida. I was able to get my basic rights back. After 10 years staying clean I went for executive clemency and was able to get my governmental Pardon and can now carry and purchase firearms. But I cannot get my record expunged. Florida doesn’t expunge felonies. But at least I’m legal
"I could buy guns again, so why wouldn't I?"
Best quote ever!
That was my mindset when I finally left California! 😅
@@shoua7me too
Listening to him tell the story, should tell anyone there is NOTHING "romantic" about having to defend yourself in a life and death situation. Thank you both for sharing this.
Well said.
I would say that for some the enthusiasm is needed to get them started on their training journey, and I will also say that if they are training properly with the right people, that enthusiasm with transfer to focus and dedication. Just my thoughts.
True, it's not romantic or glorified. In situations like that, speed and accuracy count. Practice, train and always be prepared. Superior firepower is also an asset.
Yes, life isn't a film, TV, or book fiction scene. You likely won't have time to think about anything, or to exchange witty dialogue with your opponent. Watch CCTV footage of actual confliucts on the street, it's generally all over one way or the other in a few seconds.
And it should also tell everyone that there is no need to have all that useless extra crap on your gun
This is one of the best videos I’ve seen. This guy touched on everything. Even his weaknesses. He realized he didn’t have a great grip. Amazing interview. God kept him in His hands.
retired LE 36year was Required range Qual every 4 months. (Sig 226 or 229. Now retired still shoot very month. Been in shooting situations several times due to my street enfo4cement training
THIS GUY I REAL. HES NO BS. May god bles# him to live with his situation. He is still not thru this he needs to get professional guid@nice to put this to rest. THOSE ISSUES HE TALKS ABOUT, SCENE SLOWING DOWN, NOT HEARING THE SHOT. ETC. Are real ….YOU MUST HAVE A LAWYER WALKING DOWN THE PATH WITH YOU. DONT RAMBLE THINK OF WHAT YOUR GOING TO SAY BEFOR YOU SAY IT. HE was in A STATE OF SHOCK . I really respect him for sharing his story. Stove pipe happened b3cause he had a limp wrist. Hornady critic@l Defense is great Ammo. Critic@l duty is issue for FBI…
Carrying with an empty chamber is like thinking you'll be able to buckle your seat belt before a car accident
perfect analogy
100%
Exactly correct
Damn, that sounds right on. 👍✌️
What impresses me the most is he turned his life around and was able to get his rights back. Excellent work.
I always keep a round in the chamber. The bad guy won't give you the time to rack a round in to defend yourself
I 190% advocate for carrying with a round in the chamber. With that said, being new to firearms and conceal carrying, it took me a while carrying without a round in the chamber for a while to become comfortable enough to do so.
I was very anxious at first. I almost considered not carrying at all because of the anxiety. I would also go "well, I'm just going to the store so I don't need to bring it. I'm just going to the theatre, what could happen?".
That kind of thinking is like what's the point of carrying at all if you're not always carrying? So carrying without one in the chamber helped me curb some anxiety while also getting in the habit of doing so. Also, I was under no misunderstanding that I was going to pull it out, rack the slide, and John Wick it.
Again, carry one in the chamber. Although, not doing so helped me to become confident enough that I could do so without anxiety.
📠📠📠 lol kinda like the safe storage laws actually put you more at risk during a home invasion by adding steps between you and your live gun
@@specialsause949 that's standard
What if your pistol has no safety? You shouldn't chamber, right?
I’m an ex-MP and military armorer and when we train soldiers we train that if you’re carrying a fire arm outside of a training environment then it unit is always loaded and assumed as such. Tactically, we never have a loaded mag and empty chamber. If the mag is in, you load that chamber. I’ve taught my wife and son as such. Kudos for you spreading this much needed truth.
I Agree 💯 percent. If y’all got a mag in , ya betta have one in the hole as well. 👍. Holster or home.
95B for life ✊
Our weapons also have a manual safety which we teach that a weapon is on safe when it is holstered
Lock & load is one word in tactical land.
Locked n' loaded
1. Good on Colion for being a champion for our 2A cause
2. Thank you Chris for sharing your story
Shaking: Adrenaline is a hell of a drug!
I can't wait until all guns are banned in this country so we can all live a more peaceful life 😎
Every tenth of a second counts in a defensive gun situation.
well said, his shot from the hip seemed like it managed to startle the robber, and throw him off for a second, even if its a wild shot. it gives you those precious milliseconds to get a proper grip and follow up shots.
@@dinozorman True but make sure you’re well shut doesn’t hit an innocent soul
@@longgone9869 yea sucks it happened in a shopping mall. but, cops do the same shit.
One of the biggest take aways besides keeping one in the pipe, is situational awareness. In the times we live in, an attack could come at any time, if you aren't doing a constant threat assessment when you're out in public, then you aren't taking your's or your loved ones' safety serious enough.
I am situationally aware. I am not paranoid.
@@kennethcurtis1856 It's only paranoia if they're not out to get you, and clearly some people are.
@@kennethcurtis1856 It's not paranoid when the robbers has guns, it's common sense.
You were not "weakened". Your brain and body was sending signals faster than muscles can react. This is why muscle memory from training is important.
The attacker was slower because he was not expecting counter attack.
I'm pretty sure he stated that he had trained a lot, but it all went out the window at the moment of truth.
He then said he'd be adjusting his training and focusing on physical and mental health.
Muscle memory appears to be a myth.
Muscle memory is no myth. Even if he felt like it went out the window, all his training definitely helped a lot.
If you didnt have muscle memory, you'd have to conciously think through every action. He would never have managed to pull off drawing on the drop
@@B_R_ he didn't have enough muscle memory to be perfect, since this was first time under real attack. If he didn't train, he would've been frozen in place or dropped the gun from the snag.
So we can, to a degree, agree that non-duress practice as well as duress practice both play their role in a lethal encounter?
All due respect, and I definitely agree training is important, muscle memory was never mentioned at all in this video.
In fact, in his own words, he got tunnel vision and all of the skills everyone assumes they develop and can draw upon in a crisis were non existent.
He didn't even hear any of his own shots, and was unaware until later that he was fired upon by someone in the car.
I think we all develop training routines based upon common sense that we believe will help us if the need ever arises.
It turned out not to be true in this instance.
I think sometimes we are projecting our own fantasies about how things will go in a self defense situation, but Chris pretty much debunked that by his own admission.
You can insert your own speculation about what helped or saved his life, but it was simply having a round chambered, by his own account.
You may never get a second chance. Thank God this guy was prepared.
Recently I was downtown Indianapolis, was walking to a work trade show in broad daylight (noon time), when crossing the street 3 guys in a car in the intersection (first one at the light) was spouting profanity at me. I ignore them and changed my path to go 3 cars behind them. As I almost reached the sidewalk, one guy sprung for the backseat with a ski mask on. This absolutely changed the entire dynamic of the situation for me. However I was totally unarmed being work hours. It was then I had to revert to another type of training figuring out how I was going to survive whatever was about to unfold. As I crossed the street I was already aware of my surroundings and what options I had. I ran into a loaded parking lot to put distance between myself and the person. Thank God I did as I had a 30 foot advantage headstart. I ducked about 5 rows in behind a tire and was able to observe him from under the cars. As he could not see where I had run he was confused on his next move. By the grace of God other cars started honking their horns for the car to move and the guy retreated.
But, my ordeal was not over. As this guy said, who else was there? Were they going to circle back? I went further into the parking lot and reassessed my options for any weapon I may use, what escape routes did I have, and was there a place of safety within my reach.
Luckily they didn't return, but I never let my gaurd down as if they weren't coming back.
Obviously I was OK, but that situation changed me. The ski mask elevated the situation to absolute threat level and being in fear of my life. By this point, I was very familiar carrying loaded and chambered. My primary carry was a .38 Ultra Light snub nose. But this video has made me realize, is 6 shots enough? Is a .38 my best option. Should I go back to my FNX40 with 17 rounds? Is the .40 the best gun based on size and weight? Is a 9mm the one I need?
I have been pouring through videos to learn. I have switched to my 9mm for now, but I have reservations on the stopping power, but nobody likes to leak, so a 9mm is effective. And yes I have watch the videos on the 9mm guy, 40 guy, and 45 guy.
This month alone I have purchased 10 new guns. Some because I just wanted a .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, and the Taurus Judge because why not??
But, I plan to really get more serious about taking a class on self defense. I have already started assessing my carry position and the holsters I use. More importantly I probably do about 50 repetitions practing my draw daily (all 100% cleared and unloaded). I have found it more difficult to get my shirt out of the way than I ever thought it would be. I found myself worrying so much about speed that I forgot the safety, didn't make a good purchase on my hold, and you name it all the mistakes were happening.
So, I cannot stress to myself and others after learning more and practicing more can absolutely save your life and others.
Gun ownership and carrying comes at a higher price than we really think. It is up to us to be safe, to be prepared, and train.. train.. train.. and train even more.
Take aways for me? Drawing from the holster to get the muscle memory down. Practice hip shot. Shoot with my defense rounds (people always thought I was crazy burning expensive rounds). But as Chris said, you have to know what your gun is going to do. Defensive rounds can be higher grain or higher velocity and/or you never want to learn to late that the fancy hollow points you love may not cycle through your firearm when you need it most.
Be safe, be prepared, and train. Because when it gets real, that is not the time you are going to be Jerry Miculek (spelling) and pop off 30 rounds on center.
This man’s training saved his life. This has really put things into perspective for me. I am currently down the rabbit hole with: lights, optics and other “cool,” items for pistols. Training is key. You can’t teach someone to swim while they’re drowning
You don't get lights because they're "cool". They're as necessary as carrying with one in the chamber. Crime still happens at night, so how are you gonna aim at a target you can't see? No amount of training will fix that.
Seattle.. He's lucky not only to have his life, but not in prison as well. Criminals are a protected class.
YUP, look at the guy in Austin who just got convicted of murder after a guy pointed a gun at him, and he shot him .
@@mikesullivan1 seriously, the guy pointed an AK at him and he’s in jail for shooting ?? Insane
As a person who’s 45 minutes from Seattle, yep. He said Tacoma. That joint is rough.
@@Sldejo We're in Renton, it's absolutely insane.
@@walkingcontradiction223 MOVE ASAP! when an opportunity presents itself............
Always carry with one in the chamber. There is no other way to do this. Train to a point of safety. Speed is life.
Not true.
Would love to see more videos like this. Great to hear firsthand accounts from regular folks who have had to defend themselves with a firearm and take the time to just let them talk and tell their story. Also great to hear stories of folks who have made some mistakes but got their life straightened out and became productive citizens. Very inspirational.
Excellent informative presentation. Thank you for telling this gentleman's story.
This is probably one of the most intense interviews I've watched. This content is very necessary.
I've interacted with this guy he's an awesome dude glad he is alright.
Big thanks to Chris for sharing his story and for Colion for giving Chris the platform to spread the information out there. Things happen quick in a gunfight or combat (the later of which I have a little experience with) and at the time it always feels so surreal and strangely time dialated, even though things are moving at light speed. Only through training do we have the ability to react, if I’d been pressed into combat with little or no training I have no doubt I’d have stood there watching the “pretty lights” as tracers stitched up and down the side of our vehicle instead of doing the dozens of things me and my gun truck crew did over the next few seconds, from calling out targets, engaging them, and sending reports to higher over the radio. Personal defense or Defense of others is no different, without even a modicum of training you will freeze no matter how many times you “war game” it in your head.
I didn’t used to carry with a round in the chamber. Then a buddy explained why I should. I racked the slide and left it that way. Then one night it happened that someone tried to carjack me and he opened fire. I pulled mine and pulled the trigger. Never thought about if it was ready to go just aimed and shot. I am very glad that it was ready to go.
Greetings to you all: I can't think of any reason why any person who carries a concealed weapon would NOT carry without a round in the chamber. I am a retired Detroit police officer, 1966 to 1991 in the good old revolver days. The ultimate safety of any weapon, revolver or semi-auto, is the individual person carrying it. A revolver loaded with all chambers full is just as safe as a semi-auto with one in the pipe. Those very precious semi-seconds saved are the difference between going home safely or not. Love your videos for a long time now, keep on spreading the word to all our carrying friends.
Whenever the conversation comes up about “one in the chamber” I always laugh because Revolvers are all I carry.
Regardless of profession (we on this thread) encourage all law abiding citizens to carry as everyone is always at a degree of risk of being a victim of a life threatening situation. In the late 70s early 80s (LEO) I carried the S&W Model 66 stainless revolver(s) so if you had 6 rounds in the cylinder you "had one in the chamber". The 1986 FBI Miami shooting incident moved everyone in law enforcement to Semi Auto pistols of varied calibers and models so "one in the chamber" came into being even though Semi Autos had been used for decades already by the military.
I currently carry varied semi auto pistols with one in the chamber and indeed if something comes up you'll not always have time to rack and shoot. The key to me is having a quality firearm you're comfortable with so you're confident it will not fire accidently. Since I was 16 years old and on a pistol team until now in my mid 60s I've never had a firearm go off without me pulling the trigger.
One key point the gentleman made is he noticed many things that perked his awareness of the situation prior to noting the perpetrator attempting the robbery. A couple years ago my wife and I took a refresher self defense course that did not involve firearms but other tactics to defend yourself. A key in that course was situational awareness is a key to not becoming a victim. A main consideration today is put down your smartphone, folks that live on their smartphone like it's an attachment to their brain are easy victims because the only thing they are aware of is their phone.
I used to carry without a chambered round. I had a a trainer challenge me to go to the range and time my draw with one in, and one out. Remembering the 3-3-3 rule, I used most of my 3 seconds just pulling and racking. I've been a believer since.
Thank you Chris for telling your real life experience. It's unfortunate that you went through it, but your training and mindset helped you survive.
I've gotten more out of this video than you will ever know. Please continue the work that you do , and you have my utmost respect, and I cannot thank you enough for what you do for us. PEACE!
Please do more of self defense stories on how physical and mentally prepared you need to be- ******. Thank you for doing this interview:
Yo, Colion, these types of interviews with personal survivor debriefs are informative and compelling. Hearing a firsthand account of his experience in the moment and his thought process and dealing with the aftermath is unfathomably useful.
You should do more of these interviews.
I agree
This was phenomenal! This is the type of journalism the public needs!
Amen
Yes it should be told if only we could get the media to tell these stories but as it's been stated it is not on the medias agenda to get these stories told
This is such a great video. We need more videos like this, and we need to hear more stories from people like Chris. He covered an immense amount of topics in a single video. Carrying a round in the chamber, magazine capacity, auditory exclusion, difficulty in training for every scenario with the different types of clothing, importance of muscle memory, gun size and accessories, restoration of rights, how panic ensues, leaving the scene, etc. This is one of the most educational self defense videos I’ve seen in a long time. I am happy that Chris is here to tell it.
Kudos to him. I agree that anyone, even felons who have paid their debt to society should have all their rights back. We have a system to punish people, those same people need to have a path to get things in order and I’m glad he did!!
It's a system to keep people down instead of fixing them. I think all felons should get there rights back but repeated offenders should have very bad consequences. People should have a chance to change but shouldn't be protected after they made that choice again.
Amen!
@@richardduncan2954 agreed or violent ones.
To me, it depends on what the felonies are.
@@justobserving170The debate around felon’s rights is one of the more interesting ones.
One reason on why I try to not carry an optic on a CCW. If I need my pistol that close and that fast I will probably not be needing to aim past 3 yards. Pointing the pistol in that direction with irons will be "adequate". Biggest lesson I have learned in firearms is what is best fit for the APPLICATION you are going to use that tool for.
I pray you do more vids like this.I love how you let him talk and didnt interrupt him.
I have a lot of respect for this gentleman. He was obviously not proud of what he had to do and was somewhat reluctant to tell his story but he did an excellent job of recounting exactly what happened and he was able to explain his thoughts as it went down.
I was always worried about carrying with 1 in the chamber. The thought of it going off scared me to death. I did my own research and as I got more comfortable with just the thought of carrying a gun I realized the only way it would go off is if the trigger was “actuated” but still I felt uneasy.
Then I read an article or saw a video (I can’t say for certain which one or by whom) said just to be comfortable with the idea carry your gun like you always do (good belt and holster) and rack the slide WITHOUT a chambered round. And see if the gun goes click. After I tried that for a few days I realized it wouldn’t and now I always have one in the pipe. Baby steps.
Good on ya 👍
I've been in an attempt 2 man armed robbery and had to use my firarm, hitting someone, and yes, everything you said is the truth about the stress and duress it legit. The hyper awareness time slows down and wanting to leave the scene afterward. Being so cereal, being disoriented from the gunfire. I wouldn't wish this type of incident on no one. It's not a bad honor, but you should tell others so they know what to do if they're in a situation like yours. I became an instructor after my incident. You did what you needed to do to survive, and that is what is commendable.
You need to do more interviews like this. I enjoyed hearing this man's story. I would love to hear from other everyday citizens who have survived and defended themselves or loved ones from a criminal with a gun.
I am from the same area as this guy, and I have carried for over 30 years, and always carried with a round in the chamber. I also carry a Ruger 380 max with extra mag as backup. At times I also carry an NAA PUG with the 22WMR cylinder in it. No such thing as overkill. Now if I'm running a mile up to the 7-11 I carry the Max with extra 12 shot mag, and the
NAA. I have never carried with an empty chamber.
My step dad was a collector, and a deputy in Eastern
Washington. He then opened a gun store when he retired. He taught me well.
Chris is an awesome dude! Hes made a few pieces of jewelry for me. Hes a good genuine guy and turned his life around completely. Very successful and down to earth! Glad youre still here man!
What was the name of his business? I live in the Seattle area - Bothell and would love to support a small business owner who WONT be a victim !
Do you know if he lived in olympia as a kid? I knew a Chris that had a similar accent probably 25-30 years ago.
Thank you bro!!!
This was powerful. I felt like I was there when he told the story. It sounds scary as hell
You can honestly hear the pain in his voice talking about the situation.
Colion, you videos have a lot of impact in the 2A community.
This is an eye opener. You never think it'll happen to you until it does. I have always carried with a round in the chamber and always will.
A lot of of good points were presented based on his experience and will definitely start shooting my defense ammo through all of my mags more often.
I'm glad he got life turned around and is now one of the good guys. Great video!
This was really moving to me, as someone who has dealt with self defense situations and understands how he feels. It’s really hard to talk about these things, even though they profoundly affect your life. I’m glad he had the courage to talk about it. And to put himself out there as a felon who has had his rights restored is even more courageous.
Seems like a good humble dude..
Glad he was able to do what he needed to do.
Always carry with one in the chamber!
I was terrified to carry with one in the chamber. Terrified! But slowly, I trained myself to know my gun. Shoot it constantly. And became comfortable. But I hope and pray, I never have to use it. And if I do use it, to have the courage to do what needs to be done.
I always carry with a round on the chamber. But this gave me a lot of good points to work on. Thank you Collin and glad a viewer is alive because of you.
It's nice to see someone who not only turned his life around but kept it because he defended himself.
Thanks for sharing.
I have ALWAYS carried with one in the pipe.
Been 50 years now and I have not had to pull the trigger on anyone. I feel lucky for that.
After I realized the importance of a CCW but before I went through the process and actually got my license, I observed friends that carried with a round in the chamber and I was a little leary of that. Later, I found suitable carry guns and holsters that allowed for carrying in this condition in a safe way. Now I don't think about it and always have one in the pipe. This man's story is a very important one for any one who carries to experience. Thank you Chris, for sharing. And thank you Colion for doing every single thing you do. Bless you, man.
Carried leather for decades, but Kydex is really the way to go. No snaps, no buttons, just draw.. theyre more reliable than ever, and the custom molding process makes accidents much less frequent than they can with leather. Had my piece fall out sitting in the bathroom twice, sitting in chairs, and with the kydex that stopped happening.
@@marcrhodes3382 I'm currently using a DeSantis holster for pocket carry. It's got rubber nubby texture all over the outside so it stays put on the draw, and the trigger guard is completely covered. Kydex seems like a great way to go for OWB or IWB, though. Do you find issues with it scratching your guns? An EDC gun is an EDC gun, I guess, but I still like my guns to look good.
I had to learn this lesson in an uncomfortable way, but not at risk to my life.
I thought I was hot shit because I was an Army Cavalry Scout, an excellent rifle shot out to 300m, and a constant practitioner of situational awareness.
But I received no substantive pistol training as a Cavalry Grunt. I’ve learned most of my pistol tactics as a civilian from former mil and LE instructors who adapted to civilian world combat tactics. I began to take classes and train with a pistol in the very different means and methods of “real world” pistol self defense tactics. But as someone who had never had an ND and saw many, I always felt uncomfortable carrying one in the chamber. At first with 1911s out of fear of dropping and slam firing it at the wrong angles, then with Glocks.
Then one day, a man in the dark turned out of the shadows into me to stare at me as I was on a night run. despite carrying, I realized in that moment that my Israeli Drawstroke would have robbed me of space and time I knew I needed. I ran past the guy and he eventually turned away and walked off (took a different route home).
I’ve carried my Austrian-American friend with one in the pipe ever since then, and practice the Tueller Drill draw to keep my draw time under 1.5s every week.
Fortunately there was nothing this serious, but it taught me a lesson I’ll never forget.
I’m very glad this man got his rights back after paying his debt to society. I wish the genuinely penitent offenders who committed to rehabilitation and were of sound mind would. They paid the price. They shouldn’t lose their Right to Vote or Defend if they’ve finished their sentence and are not likely to reoffend.
I had a similar situation. I got two videos from different angles ( dashcam in my living room window and, neighbor on the second floor). Whew!
That's the question I was about to ask. Is the israeli draw better, worse or equal to a round in the chamber?
@@christianpoulin02 My opinion has shifted entirely from Israeli to Pre- Chambered for modern striker-fired weapons with internal safeties. With a 1911, I’d probably still just practice with sweeping the thumb to disengage the thumb safety a part of drawstroke training if I still carried one.
Just do yourself a favor and always carry kydex. No snaps or buttons, just kydex. I have a nice leather holster collection that I admire but never use unless I'm hunting. Kydex is the fastest and most secure method. Your draw should be less than a second. Practice constantly, thousands of draws, every week, and you'll notice that you'll be able to clear away your jacket and shirt, and pull out much faster than 1.5. Its all about repetition and muscle memory. .good luck
I watched a video where they took a pistol loaded with one in the chamber and dropped it from 30ft. The gun did not go off.
Ultimately, it's what you feel comfortable doing. It really gets down to draw time and if you can draw faster than another person that already knows his/her intentions.
Another good guy wins. Glad he was able to get his rights reinstated. It literally saved his life.
To both of you. Thank you for this interview. I am a new CCW owner (not from USA but rather Africa where our laws are not the same etc but principal is). I have started carrying recently and was under the impression that a full mag, empty spout and safety on was the way to go. This interview has opened my eyes drastically to the need to keep 1 up all the time. I carry appendix and still need A Lot of training and as people say it's a mind set. So I will too be changing up to one in the spout thanks to this very informative video. Thank you again. 🇿🇲
If you carry appendix you definitely need extra training. If you carry appendix you have to MAKE SURE you carry with one in the chamber because having it front and center means you have it ready to go and would be useless to have an empty chamber if it's that accessible and ready. Props to you for recognizing that you need more training and godspeed to you
I carry appendix just on a comfortability level I print a lot less and everything I like appendix but I'm not ignorant to the fact that I'm just starting my training so what is the issue with appendix@@masonrainwater2477
My dad doesn’t believe in a round in the chamber. When I started to carry I watch many videos and decide to always carry one in the chamber with a good hostler. I haven’t till this day needed it but I can say that every second matters and I will also be going to sign up more training as my shot isn’t the best. Thanks for sharing these videos always
Yo Chris, thanks for getting on here and telling the story. I have a military background and know how hard it can be to re live that. That's also an awesome token for Colion. If you made that you do some awesome work.
I recommend your channel to everyone your content is first rate. Everyone in our family carries except for our grandchildren and our dogs. I'm constantly forwarding your videos to my sons and daughter. This gentleman's situation is why USCCA is such a good idea
Too bad for Washington folks, as far as I know the USCCA won't get involved there. I absolutely love the PNW and can't go back after having the "Florida Freedom"!!!
This guy is a good interview. He tells his story honestly and really describes how terrifying it can be to be forced to use your weapon for self defense and how stressful it is and how it effects you in the moment and afterwards.
Chris, you are a true American! Thanks Colion for sharing this story!
The topic of capacity limits gets me so frustrated. This man is exactly right if that 2nd subject got out of the car he had 1 maybe 2 rounds left.
I prefer sidecar style holsters for this reason. As rare as it may be to do a mag change in the real world it’s worth it to carry a spare mag in my book.
Edit: Made the comment before he mentioned probably not being able to find the mag well but I still like having a spare as I find the holsters more comfortable being wider.
The easiest way to keep a round in the chamber safely is to carry a revolver. If you're that worried about being safe, you're better off with five or six rounds ready to go than seven or more in the mag and nothing in the chamber.
Plus revolvers have other advantages: no failures to feed or eject, to fix a dud round all you do is pull the trigger again, and if it's "hammerless" you can fire with it still in a pocket (which also means you can carry it in a pocket).
There's a reason most criminals use snubby revolvers: they're concealable, reliable, and easy to use, just what you want in a CCW.
A good semi-auto can hold more ammo, reload faster, and if it's a _good_ one it can be _almost_ as reliable as a revolver, but you _have_ to have one in the chamber, and that means you have to be _extra_ careful, and you pretty much always need to carry in a holster, and that means you might just end up leaving the gun at home so you don't have to deal with it.
This dudes honesty about mistakes made was the most important info for me. Also so lucky to not be charged, not getting an attorney first was def a mistake. And the things he learned and is changing is spot on.
I carried without one chambered for a couple months before I got comfortable with one in… it good to study your firearms and know how they work inside and out..
Thank you both Colion and Chris for sharing this experience. Glad it all went in favor for Chris. Stay protected my friends.
Unreal. Major kudos for him still being with us to share his story and come home to his family. Heard nothing but bad things about Seattle so this sadly comes to no surprise where this happened.
Amazing story -- more amazing that a real person connected with you and your teamwork came to us. THANK YOU !
Carrying with a round in the chamber should never be pondered, debated, questioned, etc.
It's what is required for a defensive pistol.
No. It isn't. Different people are trained different ways. Trying to cut off discussion makes you no better than the leftistsn
@@thebarkingmouse but why wouldnt you? When you need to use it wouldnt you want it to work right away? Like a fire extinguisher.
@@edmxero2029 bad reference you still have to pull a pin out and hope it's been serviced. It's not always readily available lol. Buuuuuuut I understand what you were trying to say
@@edmxero2029 do you keep all windows and doors to your home unlocked before going to bed in case of a fire and would want to make it as easy as possible to escape? Also makes it easier for first responders to save you too
I know I'm being an ass but it's logically sound and stupid at the same time on par with your comment as well. It just depends sometimes
@@KantoCacho okay but I just dont see where not having a round in the chamber will give you an advantage if youre carrying for defense, like you would for those other scenarios if someone was that serious about fire lol
In respect to his mentioning "never hearing the shots" I can verify that as an avid hunter... Many times after shooting at game as it jumps up before you, you gather your thoughts and then you think, "hey, I never heard the gun go off"...Adrenaline.
Just got done with my first hinting trip. I can attest to this (in a hunting scenario). You hear other people's shots more than your own
These interviews are always valuable. Thanks for bringing them to us, Colion.
And Chris - thanks for agreeing to sit down and talk with Colion on the topic. It was clear you're still uncomfortable about that situation, and that its stressful to recall. So, thank you for putting yourself through it and I hope the conversation helps someone else who might survive a similar situation.
And congrats for surviving a hostile encounter, for getting your life turned around, and for getting your rights restored. Best of luck to you going forward.
Thank you Colion for always helping people & also thank you Chris for sharing your story with everyone. Always remember training is good but things happened we can't control or plan for. All we can do is save as many people as we can while surviving yourself.
Always learning something!
Didn't think much about practicing draw every day. Since I have to carry differently every day will now begin practicing draw every day at least 5 times before leaving the house.
Chris's retelling and picturing the poor man in the Texas church shooting (the one time he wore his shirt un-tucked) is eye-opening.
Thank you Colion and Chris.
As an Infantry combat vet from Iraq in 2004 when the war was "hot" we called that "slow down time" gut check time or razors edge during a fight. You are so intently focused all of your senses are on stopping the bad guy. You did good bro and I am going online to buy a gold chain from you. Everyone let's buy some of this guy's jewelry!! I will give it to my wife so I can negotiate for another Glock!!
Mr noir and James yeager were big influence on my firearms journey.
This is an amazing story that got me thinking about a lot of things I have never thought about before. I know this was hard to tell, but trust me, you are helping a lot more than you will ever know. Thank you for sharing.
This is one of the best interviews you've done. It provided valuable insight on a number of concealed carry issues. Thank you, and keep up the great work!
This is a important video every firearm owner needs to watch. Thank You! Aloha 🤙🏽
This is GOLD Colion! Thank you. If possible, please do more interviews like this, where the guest breaks down their lethal interactions so we can learn from what they did right or wrong. Obviously nothing that may incriminate them, but since you’re a lawyer Im sure you know whats best. Thank you 🙏
When pilots talk about crashes they say it's like a bunch of slices of swiss cheese, in order to fly to the crash you have to line up several small events that could have prevented the crash, like lining up holes in the cheese slices. I would say the idea applies here. Chris managed to not line up all the holes. Sounds like that one about empty chamber could have been the last one in a series of small bits not going to plan. Thank god he trained and studied to avoid each little problem so he could avoid the crash. As they say, "Any landing you walk away from is pretty good. Not great, but pretty good."
Not only 1 in the chamber ....MY TRIGGER IS SET and ready .Thank you gentlemen.
This was very eye opening to listen to I actually felt my heart sink during his story of what happened to him thank God he's ok no one will know what this is like until you go through it I learned some lessons listening to him
Not carrying with a round in the chamber can add two or three seconds to your time to first shot. And that's if you're really good at racking your slide. If you somehow can't manage to get two hands on your gun at the beginning of a gunfight your toast. It just doesn't make any sense.
When Oklahoma first passed concealed carry, none of us were familiar with it. Before that only police and a few private detectives could legally carry. We were all nervous about it. There was hardly any training available. I think that was 1995. To get comfortable I unloaded the gun and cocked it, then inserted a magazine. Each night for a month I checked it and the trigger was never back. So then I started carrying chambered. (It was a Glock 23.) Then I started taking classes and reading Ayoob’s books and articles.
I followed the same process when I got my LTC in Texas in '95. I think it was only 1-2 weeks before I transitioned to carrying with a round in the chamber.
Colion…thank you, hearing this dudes testimony is invaluable, and helps orient other parents and members of this community on how to carry themselves and what to expect. You are becoming a cornerstone and encyclopedia of the 2A community. We appreciate you and what you provide. Thank you
This is so very important. Very infirmarive, and how heart warming it is to see him show his appreciation
with some cool bling too.
You shouldn't have to be a police officer to be a protector of whats most important, ur life and ur loved ones. love the content keep it up💯
Yup. Unfortunately the government has a monopoly on the use of force.
Well cops get free training and ammo. Only rich citizens have the luxury of training every day.
Amazing story guys. Colin you are a true ambassador for us all.
I really appreciate this guy sharing his story.
I’ve had to draw my firearm on a guy in Oakland who was running up on me while attempting to pull out his knife. When he saw my gun he stopped in his tracks and luckily no violence happened.
That was one of the scariest experiences I’ve ever been in, it really shook me up. I couldn’t imagine what it must have been like in this guy’s shoes.
Being from Washington then seeing this interview was well needed
His story backs up my argument that the factory sights are all you want with your everyday carry. The last thing you want is something to hang or snag coming out if your holster.
Great video and very humbling to hear another real split second, life saving decision.
This was probably one of the most informative and valueble videos I've watched from you.
Thanks Collion for making this content and Chris for sharing your intense experience, I'm sure it wasint easy to re-live it again.
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In the beginning I wasn't Carrying one in the chamber but after practice now I do. Great upload some of us need this advice and story. Thanks for the upload.
Same
I carry without one in the chamber for years then I saw one of Colion video's on having one in the chamber and I knew I was not fast enough and once I was very fast and even then that not fast enough but back then I carried a revolver and it was fully loaded I felt safe because it had a slide bar you had to pull the trigger, I went to an auto and I did like that it had a hammer you cocked didn't like that. I got an Auto now and this one you have to pull the trigger it very simple I like simple.
@@danayen4806 me too I was afraid since young they instill that fear that guns go off. Growing up in liberal New York City where only the criminals had guns. In Texas I feel safer when I carry with one in the chamber.
Finally got to watch this. I feel like this needs to be more widely circulated. Not just for the round in the chamber argument, but all the other aspects of a defense shooting they touched on. So much going on here in a VERY, VERY common scenario where you think you’re safe meeting someone in a public place during the day to sell something. Thank God this guy came out alive and can be there for his son.
Thanks for telling this story I wish more people could tell there story like you.
The most realistic scenario I’ve heard on RUclips. All those super tactical dudes with a million accessories on their guns have no idea.
This is why I got rid of the Rmr sight. Just couldn't draw it every time without snagging my jacket or shirt. Lasers are much faster for target acquisition, and dont require you to look at your sights. You can focus on the target. And it saves a good 2 to 3/10ths of a second.
Well said, the same people that love to refer to average people as the poors
Those cool tactical toys have their place, but never forget your basics. My guns are all stock.
I would say an optic is good for a duty weapon drawn from an open carry holster such as police & security officers. For the standard civilian who mostly conceals carry. Stock or a simple flashlight for night scenarios would be good
@@danielaramburo7648 Right!
Amazing interview, Kudos to him for everything he has done to better his life and take his personal safety (as well as his family) seriously. He brings up a lot of great insights into the reality of a self-defense situation. Thank you, sires.
I am glad you chose to tell your story. Appreciate your honesty and backstory! Gob bless!!!
Colion, You are a great 2A Community Champion for what you bring to us. The story and great lessons that Chris provided thru your RUclips platform has really benefited all of us, who carry and train. As an older(73yrold) concealed carrier, I don't get to the range as often as I should, but I do enjoy my USCCA membership training. Please accept my thanks for all that you provide.God bless!
Colion...we in NY cant even obtain carry insurance. At one point they wanted to mandate it and pay PER firearm...basically to price people out of excerisizing their 2nd ammendment rights. But we cant even obtain it as blanket coverage like most states can. Which tells you that it was strictly for the purpose of pricing people out of owning a firearm. NY doesnt want you to be able to defend yourself...either in self defense OR the courtroom god forbid you need to.
Excellent video guys. Hearing a first hand account from a regular guy really brings it home. Especially like the post analysis about keeping the gun stock without the gadgets, practicing with your carry rounds etc…great listen