Perennial Ryegrass vs Kentucky Bluegrass
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- Опубликовано: 29 май 2021
- In this video I look at the two different grass types that I grow in my yard. My back yard has Perennial Ryegrass while my front yard has Kentucky Bluegrass. We look at the differences between texture, color, striping, growth patterns, germination, and disease.
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I have been watching RUclips for years now and I have to say your lawn front and back are right up there with the best I have ever seen. I am partial to KBG but they both look amazing. Well done sir.
Wow man, there are a lot of great lawns on YT, so I’m speechless. Honestly though I just am happy that you keep watching my videos lol, thanks for the continued support Keith. Love that people like you make this community as great as it is.
Absolutely a RUclipsr after my own heart. I was gonna over seed 5 iron p.r.g. over my kgb. Love the blue grass. Scotts and midnight mix. Looks good but even after 1.5 years still spotty. Like to have the best of both worlds. Just figured in 2 years I'd over seed with midnight again. Love this vid. Dude
Thank you so much man, I appreciate it. I think the mix of KBG and Rye is the right way to go. I Plan on overseeding PRG in the front and KBG in the back. Like you said, best of both worlds 👍🏽
That lawn is killer, absolutely amazing, color is really dark green!!! It looks perfect to me!!
Thanks so much for the kind words. I appreciate the support 👍🏽 it still feels like it needs work.
Awesome insight Aaron!
Kbg has been getting a lot of hate lately, I’m glad to see prg has some of the same issues!
Definitely man, I’ll be interested to see what you have you have to say about yours after a little bit of time. You put in some great cultivars.
Who is hating on KBG? I mean , it is the cool season Bermuda. 👍🏻👊🏼 I love KBG but no doubt I would have Bermuda if I could.
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Thanks for the video. I'm redoing my front yard and bought the seed superstore KBG mix with the three types. Then I saw a bunch of RUclipsrs using barenbrug's rpr and started regretting my decision. This makes me feel more confident in my choice!
Thank you! That’s a great choice, and it will be beautiful. I’m buying some of that as well. It will take a bit longer to establish, but worth it.
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I killed off part of my lawn and went with 100% KBG, it germinated so slow it allowed other weeds to germinate right along with it. So, I hope the 'elite' seed I used will out compete it eventually. KBG can be aggressive, but it's like watching paint dry.
You do it this spring? It’s slow for sure. Mesotrione/tenacity/ l Scott’s starter fertilizer helps, and then after 6 weeks or so you can spray out the weeds. Good luck, let me if you have any questions.
I use a 50/50 rye kbg here east central Iowa, which is very popular around to use. Does well over the winter and use try to keep moist during the hot summer days.
Not too far from me. Summertime blue grass struggles for me if not irrigated. The Rye hangs on better. Blend is a nice option 👍🏽
Both front and back look phenomenal. I love KBG and have Bluebank KBG out front. I'm curious to mix some PGR in the back. Tried some barenbrug RPR in spring but didnt work out well. Might try the SS9000 in the fall.
Thanks my friend! I think the mix is the way to go. Your blue grass looks amazing. Thinking of adding in some of that cultivar in my rye grass.
Another good video. Just commented on your KB overseed video. Still struggling whether to renovate my new KB sod that struggled this summer with KB or Rye. I really like how quick Rye grass establishes. I’m sick of seeing all the dry brown Kb that I’ve been looking at since June
Thank you! Hope my comment on the other video helps. I think both can have challenges and benifits. Now fescue is your best option for heat with its deep roots.
I love perennial ryegrass for so many reasons and one big one is how well it stripes like you said. I live in vancouver, BC and it seems to really thrive here with our widely variable climate and lots of rain. Yes it doesn't have rhizomes like KBG but it doesn't need them with how quickly it germinates and establishes which makes overseeding ridiculously easy while still producing incredible results. Mow it tall in the summer and it's also decently heat and drought resistent and can be kept up with hand watering. One issue I have though which seems to be the opposite of your problem is mine is too thick with how often I overseed and it almost ends up choking itself off, I have to dethatch a couple times a year.
Definitely good stuff, and does better in the summer than my bluegrass. I would definitely love to grow Rye where you are, that seems like it would do very well In that climate. Cheers 🥂
great info!!! this Spring I tried 70% KBG & 30%PRG mix seeds. I wasnt very sure what grass types my previous home owner was seeding..prob TTTF/Fine fescue/PRG/CRF/KBG all mixed.. to have a better result with my seeds, I know I should be doing a full renovation,, it's just look like it is a so much work n I would need to take vacation days 🥴 after looking at your video, it made me think I should definitely try reno at some point!
Awesome, sounds like great mix. Thinking of burning my rye grass down and doing that mix in my backyard. It’s a ton of work but rewarding in the end. 👍🏽
Great video. I’m about to put down regenerating perennial rye by Barenbrug down mixed in with my KBG. Hope they both compete to make a nice thick yard. Maybe something for you to consider. Mono strains are cool but each grass has its strengths and weaknesses
Sounds like a great plan, and I’m sure it’ll be beautiful. I just bought a bunt of KBG and Ray and plan on overseeding the lawn with the other type to get the best of both worlds. Good luck!
Love the video! Thank you for the comparison.
Think I may do both mixed together and see how it comes out.
What reel mower are you using? Interested in learning about it.
Thank you! Both mixed together would look amazing. I’m using a Swardman reel mower. It has a great cut; it also has some mechanical problems. Allet or used John Deere greens mowers are where I’ll be looking next.
Again your lawn looks amazing as always. I noticed at the beginning of the clip you have the same issue as me when cutting across the grain. It pulls the Swardman in different directions making it hard keeping the stripes straight. That’s the only down side I think of the Swardman being so light.
For real though. I just got a grooved roller to try and mitigate some of that, and may try adding the grass catcher to add some weight. Good catch! It’s also a little bumpy in that backyard so I’m hoping a good leveling job will fix some of that. Let me know if you come up with a solution, ha!
@@theperfectcutlawncare ...Lol,,, I have the grooved roller and was going to order the smooth roller hoping it would help. I do notice a little difference when adding the grass catcher but only when it’s at least half full.
I do like the cut with the grooved roller though. Let me know what you think of the smooth. About to go try the grooved in the backyard. Cheers!
I’m with you on all your points. With that said you should add in some RPR to your ryegrass. All the pros of rye but it spreads and fills in bare spots itself like KBG.
Good idea for next Spring. 👍🏽
Did you plant that rye for the future of a outting green? Also do you know if Kentucky blue would be good for a putting green and top dressing it or will the sand interfere with the grass growing and suffocate it? I have a entire back yard of new construction so I have to start ground up. Any suggestions. Your videos are easy to watch straight to the point I like them.
Thank you! I didn’t plant the rye for a future putting green. Fortunately it can handle a low cut, and is used for overseeding greens during the winter AZ. Kentubluegrass won’t tolerate cutting the low height of a green; however there are some varieties that can be used. I’m not sure where you are, but I think the bluegrass blend SS1100 from seed super store is beautiful and does well. I wouldn’t recommend rye as a stand alone.
Just planted a RPR front lawn in northern Vermont and I’m second guessing myself as I’m now worried about it making it through the winter. How was your first winter with the ryegrass? I assume you saw some snow a d freezing temps? Did it come right back to life in the spring?
It will do fine in northern Vermont. I’m originally from New England, so I’m familiar with the climate and it will do well in Burlington. My Rye made it with out an issue and came out of winter green. I have a time lapse of it coming out from under the snow in a video titled first Swardman Mow if you want to see. We had days that didn’t get above zero. Hope that helps and it’s a great choice.
Great one!!! My hesitation about KBG is its need of water... This fall I might do 80-20 KBG/PR and hope it will hopefully work well here in Western NY. How long did it take for your KBG after seeding? Keep the great videos coming! 💪🏻
It took about a week to germinate. I did a spring seeding. Right after it germinated it survived a tornado warning and then 3 nights in the 20’s and 4 inches of snow and survived. Following that it made it through a midwestern drought with highs in the 90s. Stuff is super hardy. Sounds like a good mix you got.
@@theperfectcutlawncare Wowww that's a survival story 🤣! The front looks amazing! Well, both lol
@@upnylawn3519 lol 😂 thanks brotha!
May I ask, what KBG cultivars you have planted in front ?? Front looks 👀 amazing!!
Thanks 🙏🏻
Ha! Thank you. It’s Scott’s KBG.
Cool, by now you know you can just overseed with the Kentucky Blue. It will be quite nice in a year or two.
We’ll see how it goes this season. Thanks for watching!
Nice yard I was wondering what kentucky blue grass are you using since I see there’s different strands. Midnight?
Thank you! I’m using a blend of the SS1100: Mazama, Midnight and Bluebank.
That is one thing I have to say, I did a reno and used a mix of TTTF and KBG and it just doesn't stripe up .. My side yard is a Mutt Grass mix... and it stripes SO MUCH better....very little KBG
I hear you there with the bluegrass fescue mix. Just have to renovate with the mutt mix now, ha! Thanks for stopping by.
Debating Overseeding perennial rye vs bluegrass this fall. Thinking since the bluegrass takes so long to germinate, overseeding might be difficult? I have a large yard and can only mow with my 54 inch zero turn. Thoughts?
I think you’d be ok with the bluegrass. I plan on overseeding the Ryegrass with it this fall. I’ll likely put down a plant growth regulator before just to slow down the Rye. I’d consider a mix of bluegrass and rye, I think both together is a great combination. 👍🏽
Any specific reason that you have KBG in your front yard and perennial ryegrass in your back yard? Sunlight or shade tolerance perhaps? Or do you just enjoy the variety? Also, what is your preferred height to cut both grasses?
Just wanted to try out and see how both look and feel. Both are full sun. Going forward I’d do a blend of of both. Right now I have the bluegrass at half an inch. The putting green at .18” and the rye outside the putting green is at two inches cut with a rotary.
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The PRG doesn't have the same thickness of blade that's why it feels different. It's pretty soft when mowed taller. Yours looks amazing though. Really nice. 👊🏼
Hey thanks for stopping by! Love your channel, and can’t wait to see how your project turns out. Both have great attributes, hoping to to do a blend this fall. 👍🏽
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@@theperfectcutlawncare I did that mix of PRG and KBG in my backyard last year and I love it. Eventually I may overseed the front with KBG but for now I'm going straight PRG.
Good to know, definitely leaning that way. Wish I had I your climate. Originally from New England, which has a better a better climate for grass than here in the mid west. Cheers!
what reel mower was that in the beginning of the video?
That’s a Swardman reel mower.
How do you get the different colors when mowing.
Seems like you mowed right over it and the different shades of grass were still there.
Curious in Washington state
It’s the way the mower bends the grass and the light reflects off of it. Dark green stripes come at you and light green bend away from you.
Both are beautiful, but what do you plant on the side yard?
That’s Kentucky Bluegrass too. Should have gave a shout out to Luke for helping me plant the front.
Did you spread seed right over the dead grass? I can't make out if it's brown grass or bare dirt.
I dug up my back yard and rolled and leveled it with a rake. The front I top dressed with soil over dead grass, and planted Bluegrass. Either way works, but will want seed and soil contact. Hope that helps.
Great video. If you could do it again would you recommend mixing both KBG and PRG? And if so, 50/50? Im also in IL and want to do a lawn Reno. Thank you.
Thank you. I’m ten days out from a complete front yard lawn renovation. I went 50/50 bluegrass ryegrass mix. I have grass coming up. Hopefully after Labor Day I can get the reel mower on it and get a good first look at it.
@@theperfectcutlawncare Thanks for the reply. I was going to start killing the lawn now and plant new seed on 9/1. Do you think that’s too late? I’m in Schaumburg area.
@ninja636stunta it’s the perfect time in Schaumburg.
@@theperfectcutlawncare sorry one more question. What bluegrass do you recommend? I Can’t decide between baronbrug or super store brands. Thanks.
Does the rye grass start to grow seed/flower if it’s left to grow longer before cutting?
It will go to seed once a year, but they won’t be viable. It’ll just keep growing but not have flowers like other tall grasses
Only thing I am interested in is SUMMER when temps are 90%+ how does it stack up?
Water an inch a week, and both hold up. I Wouldn’t grow these in the transition zone.
Great video! I’m a kbg guy too but prg is so much more appetizing haha
Lol, yes, that color on the Rye! But the bluegrass, so thick and solid. Ha! Thanks brotha!
@@theperfectcutlawncare yeah you bet man! Great looking yard 🤜🤛🍻
Thank you, you too! I see your lawn on the IG, just gave you follow on the Tube too, have a great season. Hard work with kids.
@@theperfectcutlawncare yeah thank you!!! I saw that. Yes it is a full time job on top of the kids haha. I’ll get my yard looking like yours by fall 😜😜🤦
Looks amazing though!
Thanks man! It’ll get there one day.
I live in Spokane, but came from the West side, which is perennial ryegrass, that is lush and green 24/7. Spokane gets super hot, super cold, and pretty darned arid. Having a lawn here is a pretty expensive and high-maintenance joke, as this area only has a few native bunch grasses that are somewhat green 1 month a year. What the HECK kind of TURF do I even PLANT here, man??? Floppers tore out the landscape and tossed down ryegrass. Needless to say, 3/4 my entire lot is DEAD and re-WEEDED. What the HECK do I plant in Spokane??? Rather have nice lawn in summer-ALL species go dormant here for winter. I am at a complete loss. I AM gradually putting BACK darned shrubs since I face South-Freezes, dries and fries.
Spokane is certainly Arid. You’re in a tough spot. Most drought Tolerant of the cool season grasses is Tall Fescue. That might be your best bet in trying to survive summer heat. It’ll still require water, but not as much as bluegrass or Ryegrass. Good luck, glad I do t have your climate
Great video buddy. I’m in NY state. I’m looking to start ever seeding. Would you recommend the Kentucky bluegrass. Or is there a other type of grass you would recommend. I friend spoke to me about soysia grass.
Thank you! I wouldn’t start thinking about zoysia grass until you got into southern Jersey.plus you have to do plugs. Rye, bluegrass or fescue are good choices. Bluegrass is slowest to get started started, but my favorite of the three.
@@theperfectcutlawncare Thank you very much I appreciate the advice and a fast reply keep up the amazing work I really like the videos thank you.
Thanks again! Good luck 👍🏽
@@theperfectcutlawncare your very welcome.
Lawn looks great. I think the reason PRG stripes so well is because it has a glossy side to the blade that reflect light whereas the KBG is a more matte blade. Have you considered over seeding your KBG with PRG?
Thank you! I agree, and good insight. I plan on adding PRG to the blue grass this fall. Not sure sure about what I’ll do to the PRG in the back yet.
I wish Kentucky Bluegrass could get a deeper root system. I feel like the deeper the roots, the harder the grass is.
Yeah, definitely not Bermuda grass. Guess you gotta go Tall Feacue.
WOW! I am New home owner with what started off as a KBG sod lawn. I notice that you cut very low. Everything I read on KBG is to keep it 2.5-3.5 high. Yours looks real low but looks amazing. Can you offer some insight? Also where are you located. I am in the North ast so not sure if that is maybe why the difference.... Thanks in advance
Thank you! I’m in Illinois, so similar climate to New England. It rains more in the north east during the summer, so it’s harder to keep low cut turf in the Midwest with out irrigation. I keep the bluegrass at 3/4 of an inch during fall and spring. Anything below that and it starts to lose color. Summer I let it grow out to 3”.
@@theperfectcutlawncare Awesome. Thank you!
Do you have a video for fall over seeding?
Sadly, no. Going to try next weekend, but it’ll be a year late for you. So many good ones out there already. Good luck!
Will KBG survive the winter in the Texas panhandle?
It will survive the winter. It will not survive the summer though.
What area of the country do you live in? I am in zone 6, transition zone near Kansas City. I love KBG! But struggle with keeping it alive through our hot, humid summers. Any secrets you’ve learned about seeding, watering, cutting heights for KBG?! Thank you for the excellent video!
I live in northern Illinois. Not quite as warm as where you are. You’re in a tough spot in the summer. To keep it alive and have a quick bounce back when temps cool down I irrigate an inch of water a week if there’s no rain. I also let it grow out to an inch and half. During spring and fall I keep it at .75 inches. I seeded mine mid to late August looking for a spot with no rain forecast to prevent a wash out. I kept it moist by watering it every hour with a timer for 15 minutes. It was decently established by early November. And really filled in by the next June. Stuff is great and I enjoy it, but it takes some patience.
@@theperfectcutlawncare thank you for the reply! Would you agree that Scott’s Kentucky Blue Grass would be a good mix of several high quality types of KBG to seed into a full sun front yard? Following all of your pointers I’m going for a KBG front yard!
I like the Scott’s. Many people criticize me for it and that is fine. It’s solid grass, with great disease and drought tolerance. If I were to
Plant another KBG lawn I’d probably try the blue grass blend from seed super store. That would be an A+ lawn. Either way the blue grass makes a wonderful lawn.
Keep the grass cut as high as you can. I do 3+ inches and it does just fine. We all love the look of short grass, but short grass equals shallow roots, and shallow roots means less tolerance for heat, shade and drought with most of the cool season turf varieties.
Are they both cut at the same height?
Yes
Any Grub issues with blue or rye grass ?
I believe grubs will eat the roots of any cool season lawn. Best to just prevent them with grub ex or kill them with an insecticide if they are present after digging into the soil.
I tried RPR Ryegrass and it has no trouble filling in like a traditional perennial rye grass.
Read about that stuff; seems pretty sweet. May need to consider it for next year. Thanks! 👍🏽
How dark is the RPR Ryegrass? Part of the reason I'm considering a full reset is because I want a dark uniform color.. Can't really find too many pictures without the color being saturated.
@@mattb9664 I have used a couple of different suppliers, one RPR was slightly darker than the other. RPR needs a fair amount of fertiliser when it’s growing and that helps it maintain a dark green color but whilst it can tolerate warm weather it loses that dark Color when the ground temp warms up in summer.
Thank you for feedback! Do you have any opinion on Barenbrug's RPR in terms of the color?
@@mattb9664 it is one of the RPRs I have used, I found it on the lighter green side particularly before it becomes a mature plant but in time and with fertiliser it darkens up in the cooler months
What variety/cultivar of KBG did you use?
During that video it was Scott’s KBG. I have overseeded it a couple of times with mazama midnight and bluenote. I burned it all down two weeks ago and reseeded it with a 50/50 bend of ryegrass and Aftermidnight KBG. We’ll see what happens, it’s coming in now.
@@theperfectcutlawncare Thank you so much! I'm currently trying to fine a KBG with wide blades because I like that look. I'm leaning toward midnight as I think it's a good fit.
@bbtank3000 it’s a classic that looks great.
what height are you mowing both types at?
That was a couple of years back, I was cutting both at 3/4 of an inch. Now I’m just cutting the bluegrass at that height, and cut the rye when ever I get a chance.
What about a mix between the two?
It’s a good option. With short cut grass some people have had some issues with the growth pattern of each. The blade will lay flat and you’ll get long running shoots
Which type is more drought resistant, Kentucky Bluegrass or Perennial Rye?
Bluegrass will go dormant faster, but will bounce right back quicker and stronger than rye grass when cooler wetter weather shows up. Rye may die and not comeback with with many days in the 90’s and no rain. Older cultivars of bluegrass are more tolerant to drought because they were not bred as high maintenance turf. So the best bet with low maintenance grass would be older cultivars of bluegrass. However, Fescue might be best if not planning on any watering.
@@theperfectcutlawncare I appreciate your knowledge. Thank you so much.
Thanks for stopping by, cheers.
New to the grass game. Live in the Pacific Northwest. Does Scott’s make a PRG and KBG mix? Or is everyone just mixing seeds by hand in their spreaders ? Great channel. Keep it coming.
Scott’s doesn’t have a mix of KBG and Rye grass. I would look at seed superstore. You can make your own mix, and they’d be happy to help you come up with one. They are fairly priced with excellent seed.
Which has more poa growth?
Well, niether, as long as you are buying certified seed. Poa will germinate from seed. If you have it you’ll need a pre emergent in the spring and another application of pre emergent in the fall.
Do you have a underground sprinkler system
No, I pull hoses if I need to water.
I found its cheaper to just let the grass go dormat in the summer. And just aerate and reseed in late August. Back in business for 100 bucks vs high 400 water bill each month
just overseed with some KBG.
Awesome, good luck. I love bluegrass, but it can be sloooow.
Great video!
I agree with all that you are saying since I have about a 50/50 mix of RPR perennial rye and KGB Midnight.
I love the early spring green up, and late fall color with the rye. While I also love the heartiness and spreading of the KGB. A mix of rye and KGB is the best of both worlds.
I do notice that the rye does not like extreme heat and requires a bit more water.
All in all, I like the two mixed together. I would do KGB as a mono stand but probably not the rye.
Thanks for the heart video content.
Thanks Matt! Definitely the rye/KBG mix is awesome and I’m considering doing an overseed of the bluegrass with it. For now I like the monostand a just to see how they real do independently, but that might change this fall. Cheers!
what state are you in?
Norther Illinois
Which one is easier to edging
Edging wise both are similar.
@@theperfectcutlawncare how it's same u say Kentucky rhizomes so it makes it difficult compare with Rye
I’m not sure what you’re asking, both have thick edges when you run an edger…I don’t have an issue with the rhizomes spreading into the flower beds as my blue grass edges are few inches below the grass line and a weekly trimmer job keeps the blue grass out.
@@theperfectcutlawncare yaah that my 100% concern the flower bed my grass goes under the soil and shows up in flower bed
I hear you, I just carefully spray RM43/glysophate on undesirable vegetation in the garden.
KBG!
It’s good grass! 👍🏽👌
Where re you? I’m in Texas.
I’m in Illinois
Dude, if you planted the Ryegrass only a yr ago of course it won’t have great density. Give it a couple yrs. I’m actually shocked how dense it is only a yr in.
It’s thick for sure. The blue grass was planted not much before it; and that is thicker. I enjoy the Rye, but I love the bluegrass. Cheers
@@theperfectcutlawncare gotcha, I didn’t realize the Bluegrass was planted at a similar time. Give it time, it will thicken up for sure. My yard took a good 2 and half yrs to get thick.
Thanks man! Appreciate it.
@@theperfectcutlawncare looks good regardless! Keep it up bro.
Is the perennial rye grass also called Mexican Grass?
Can’t say I have ever heard Perennial Rye called Mexican Grass.
@@theperfectcutlawncare ok I think I found something it’s called carpet grass, scientific name Axonopus genus!! Here it is known as Mexican carpet grass!
Good to know. Not sure how well it does in Mexico. But it’s a nice grass up here in the north! Cheers
@@theperfectcutlawncare thanks for the reply, I am not from Mexico but from India! Can you tell me the usual watering and fertilising plan for this grass type??
I do about 2 lbs of nitrogen per 1000 sq feet spread through out the year using organic fertilizer like Milorganite. I go lighter in the spring and heavy in the fall. I also do a synthetic in the fall. Biggest issue with rye grass is disease and pythium blight. And I have to apply mefenoxam every 14 days in the spring and summer. Hope that helps.
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How old is your blue grass?
I first redid it with Scott’s KBG 2.5 years ago. Last fall I I scalped it down, and did a heavy overseed with with the SS1100 bluegrass blend.
Stripes are crooked as hell
Thanks for the feedback