The 2025 Corvette ZR1 is the Performance Car Industry's Worst Nightmare
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
- The 2025 Chevy Corvette ZR1 has finally been teased after years of speculation! The C8 Corvette overall has been a massive hit in the sports car industry - even with the huge risk of going from front engine to mid engine...even though that might be the thing that is missing from the C8 Corvette ZR1. So let's talk about it!
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0:00 Well...that was climatic.
1:08 the sports car market is WILD
2:30 Has the C8 been a success?
3:14 The z06's impact on Chevy
4:28 Will it just be a faster z06?
5:55 Where the heck is the ERay?
6:26 My only concern about the ZR1
7:48 the zr1 is so nasty
9:03 it might be.."too good?"
10:05 My other big fear of the ZR1
11:11 Final thoughts 
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*Thomas the vette engine intensifies*
Crazy how a safer chasis is bad....😂😂😂😂
This is about the equivalent of what Dodge did with the Hurricane. Past that, heard tall tale rumors that Acura is potentially giving the Integra the ADX treatment. So maybe we'll see a AWD Integra, though if we do it'll likely only have the 1.5l Turbo with like 200-220hp which is quite honestly a colossal let down. Like to hear your thoughts on a potential Integra ADX.
Ford mustang GTD is far superior
$200k isn’t affordable anymore period. It’s just another supercar at that point.
No buddy it’s gonna destroy 2 million dollar hyper-cars and super cars. It would be the price of a new 911 Porsche and it might be faster around the track even compared to the 500k GT3 rs.
Yeah as well 300K
Super cars cost considerably more…
@@joshkrause2977not really. In that 200k can buy you used Ferrari 458, Lamborghini huracan, 911 turbo, GT3RS, McLaren 570/720 and others. Now if the c8 is objectively a better car or not is up for discussion but fact is most people shopping at that price point don’t want a corvette.
@@andrewking1427 did you just come at me with you can buy a used car???? People who are gonna bitch about the price of a Corvette are going to bitch about the maintenance on their used supercars….. the cost of maintenance on any of the cars you mentioned is astronomical compared to a Corvette…..
As a valet in CA, i see C8's all the time, but only 1 E-Ray
I feel like not enough people know how awesome the Eray is. Which is kinda sad.
@@Underpantsnipermy exact thoughts
Isn't the Zora going to be a ZR-1 with the E-Ray electric motors for AWD? It will essentially be the first factory Corvette hypercar!
@@Underpantsniper Yeah for driving around town the E-Ray is the way to go, for trackdays Z06, two very different cars. It's like the Z06 is the GT3RS and E-Ray is the Turbo.
@@anydaynow01 literally all Chevy has to do is put a slightly more powerful electric motor upfront and a slightly more powerful flat plane crank engine in the back and ....boom an AWD mid engine monster is born.
When a regular C8 still selling for $90k and the Z06 selling for $120k+, I'm guessing the ZR1 is gonna be $200k+. The C8 regardless of trim is awesome but like dude... This is ridiculous.
Depending on who is president they might not let them make gas cars anymore. What do you expect?
If Z06 is for 500k. Zr1 is millions.......
@@RCXDerpthe EV market is on a downward trend. Companies have cut their production because people aren't buying them.
@@knight838_ Doesn't mean the government won't full speed ahead ramming EVs down everyone's throats by banning and mandating. Like Communism.
C8s aren’t selling for 90k… it’s not 2021 anymore I can go to my local Chevy dealership and get one for msrp
Man what a throwback with RedvsBlue clips good old days
You ever wondered why we are here?
@@Mikey_Motorsit’s one of life’s many mysteries
Shame it went down hill
@@GTSW1FT You can watch it on YT again, and the originals have been remastered so they don't look so bad.
If I can afford a Z06/ZR1....I'm driving it.
Exactly, it’s supposed to be on the track ripping corners and making straightaways look small
Man. Of. Culture!
Amen brother but I like the C6 ZR1 the most
How many years is this going to take?
I'm a C8 Stingray owner. I absolutely adore this car and I've slapped 24,000 miles on it in a year and a half. No regrets. That's why it sells so well: C8's are just that good.
Thats awesome
Who woulda thought the muppet man was a car guy
I work at a Chevy dealership so its hard not to see a C8 every day, and yet I haven't seen a single E Ray yet!
Same!
I also work at a Chevy dealership, we had one E-Ray allocation for the entire production run. Incredibly limited.
Bro's acting like we won't see new highs for dealership markups making what's supposed to be an American budget supercar cost as much as a v12 Lambo.
Then don't buy a Zr1???????? buy a stingray????? The Zr1 is entering hyper car territory bud.
I got a massage yesterday, i stepped out and into the light, blinded, but graced by the howls of a Z06 getting on it. That was very nice 😂
So, you got a happy ending?
@@JoeyRozay 😂😂😂 naw, the dude got some softball sized knots outta my back, and now driving is tolerable again 😅
@@JoeyRozay❤
I had never seen a C8Z until a guy just down the street from me showed up on day in a burgundy/wine colored Z06 with the aero pkg...drove past me on the street and just hearing that FPC LT was beautiful.
Remember, C7 460hp Grand Sport has FASTER Laguna Seca laptimes than the C8Z51
Wow, that's interesting
Which is easier to drive at the limit/more confidence inspiring?
Cup 2 tires tho...
"You can't have a mid life crisis with a manual"
Me in my 7MT C7: Observe...
Bingo, me as well!
That makes three of us! I like the C8 but I needed to row gears
I love the c8 but I remember part of the hype with the stingray announcement was the advertised MSRP. Once they actually came out they ended up being a lot more expensive than we initially thought. In my mind I was hoping the lower MSRP meant that eventually I could snag a used one for cheap but unfortunately it’s been the exact opposite. Can’t imagine how expensive the ZR1 will be
That's because no one orders a base Vette ..... no one.
@@danielfair4675 Exactly this. Plus people were willing to pay over sticker. As much as it sucks, hard to blame dealers for selling over MSRP if people are dumb/fortunate enough to do so
Macmulkin Corvette…Number 1 Corvette Dealer in the world only sell Corvettes at MSRP supposedly. They will also ship the car to you according to their website site. This is where I plan to purchase what I can afford before they go away. There are already supercharger and twin turbo kits for the C8 which would be fun but financing a factory engineered supercar with a warranty as opposed to adding another 10-15k or more to any C8(parts,labor,wheels,etc.)with potential long term reliability issues…is not my bag of beans. I mean…a regular C8 is plenty of car…but I personally have to hear a ZO6 in person as well as the E-Ray(like the weather friendly powertrain) and see if they’re worth the price premium.I personally wouldn’t want a used C8 considering how some people might abuse them/not break them in properly…just my 2 cents.
@@justwingingit1 You speak truth. I bought my 2022 C8 from them exactly 2 years ago at MSRP.
Whenever I go out to Hampton Bays, there's this little car show at Meschutt Beach that's held there and every time I've gone to it, there must have been at least 3 to 5 C8 Corvettes. Not to mention, the number of other Corvettes that are there is insane. We're literally talking about at least one Corvette from each generation, with one of them being a C7 ZR1 in Sebring Orange which blew my mind. Last year I saw a C7 Z06 Convertible along with a 5th Gen Dodge Viper, an Aston Martin DB5, a Porsche 928, etc. You just have no idea what you're gonna see at this meet-up.
Bro first 30 sec in n the editing feels so nostalgic 😂 I love it
ThatDudeinBlue, You're amazing! I hit the like button as soon as I saw it!
Mike and Kyle had/have two of my favorite zr1’s on RUclips. Mikes was insane.
That Red vs Blue clip brought back some great memories. Thank you. 😆
***Yeah, C8 Corvettes are everywhere down here in Jacksonville Florida
I live in Detroit and I see the e-Ray all the time
lucky you...
@@benjaminmatute9085 Can't say that living in detroit is lucky 😂
Lots of M Plates.
@@androiduberalles 😂😂😂
Probably seeing some Z06's. ERays have been in very, very slim production - like 36/week even into May '24
I have a feeling it'll have 900hp, possibly twin turbo, maybe AWD with the hybrid setup
I fully agree about the E-Ray. If I wanted a corvette, that one would actually be my current preference because you never have to plug it in. This to me is the only electric design that makes sense. Autonomy doesn't work for me unless the thing makes its own power. Like the Porsche 918 Spyder hybrid, this is another, more affordable one that actually got it right.
I like the E-Ray too and that's the one I'd buy, but the success of the E-ray is going to depend on how well they integrated the V8 and the electric motor in front IMO. I hope it works well and doesn't have any problems. My sister has a 2020 NSX which has the same setup with the ICE motor in the back and electric motor in the front. The engineering is flawless. You can't tell when the front EV motor is working unless you switch the display, or when you pull into the garage at a very slow speed and the EV motor does all the work then. And the NSX is is very quick - not even a tire chirp off the line with the front electric motor pulling, so with the E-Ray having more power it's going to be even quicker. Maybe not as refined as the NSX but still the vette I'd pick. Unfortunately corvettes are no longer the every man sportscar, especially the higher-performance models. I bought an 11 Grand Sport new and vettes have gone up so much since then even a guy with a pretty good income is hard pressed to afford one.
@@wadestipp1833 I agree on all points! But the Corvette electric and petroleum drivetrains are completely separate in the Corvette and work independently of one another. That's actually the reason why I think it's awesome. I think integrating the electric motor with the combustion engine is actually a negative. It makes one reliant upon the other. From a reliability standpoint, this is the way to do it IMO. It only goes 4 miles on batteries if it runs out of gas, but you don't ever have to plug it in which is what all EV's and EV hybrids should never do. Should be enough in most civilized areas to save you, but we all know that's not what it's for. I'm completely against sharing the power grid with things that use 30x more power every year that my house. Will remain in 100% opposition to every car design that gets plugged in.
David! Seeing the clips from the ford performance event in Charlotte was super cool. I saw you there and we briefly chatted and that was honestly the highlight of that already insane night ( ok meeting Vaughn GJ might be tied). Always love your videos dude, next time you are in Charlotte I'd be honored to have you in my 02 Gt mustang it has a little bottle of the good stuff in the back 🤫. And I have actually seen maybe 5 or y Erays in the wild by me!
Hey Dude in Blue love your channel and respect your opinion. I believe the C8 ZR1 will be an E-Ray with the Z06 engine. I know that’s not as exciting as Supercharging or Turbocharging but it makes allot of sense and will be wicked fast!
Combining the Z06's LT6 engine with the E-Ray hybrid would result in a combined 830 hp and 582 lbf-ft.
The high revving strong top end of the LT6 is well complimented by the strong low end grunt of the hybrid system.
While it would be cool to have a more powerful ZR1, I think the combination of ample power across the entire rev range along with AWD would make a brutally fast track weapon.
Here in Brooklyn I do see the C8s lot more than when the C7s were out. My church in the Bronx is across the street from a rather small to medium Chevy dealership and they aways have least 2 to 3 C8s on the showroom floor. Talk to one of their salesman and the street and he said that the C8s are selling very well.
I agree with you that this is a great time for car enthusiasts! Pick your brand/flavor and enjoy! I was thinking about a new/unabused GTR but don’t like dealer gouging…which basically leaves the E-Ray(AWD)or ZO6 if I can swing it by purchasing it from an MSRP only dealership(they are out there). Manufacturers are going to be swinging for the fences before they all have to go electric(sigh!)…we all just have to figure out what ridiculous toy we want to see everytime we open our garage doors…😆
Good vid you earned another sub. Can’t believe I haven’t subbed yet! Thanks man!!!
Love the Red vs Blue references. Such a good throw back.
The red vs blue clips ❤❤😂 brings back good memories and reminds me that you still have the same sense of humor as when we met randomly 😅
Random thought:
Would selling X ZR1s or Zoras be more profitable than selling Y C8 stingray/Z06/GS?
Love the Red vs Blue shout out.😂 Good video as always!
Even in Australia, theres 3 c8’s i see regularly just driving around just near where i live. Considering they are imported and 3rd party converted to rhd so a base model on road is around $180k+
Hey dude in blue whats your thoughts on the rumor of the ford thunder bird making a comback ive heard rumors its going to once again rival the corvette
I see C8 Z06s everyday.. my dealership owner parked his in the show room... considering your lucky to find one under 100k, i see c8s and z06s all the time in my area . no e-rays yet... man I wish i had that kind of money....
I see C8s often but not every day and I get excited every single time
Just combine the E ray hybrid tech with the Z06 motor and add some QoL and maybe performance improvements & keep the Z06 price point (bump down the Z06) and it'll be great. No real need for much more since the Eray is already stupid quick and the Z06 sounds heavenly
I don't understand why everyone loves flat plane cranks all of a sudden? The balance issues limit motor size with them. I hope the ZR1 has a supercharged 6.2 or larger with a cross plane crank.
Corvettes are fairly common anyway. C6, C7, C8. That said, I've been seeing some more C8's lately but it seems less C7's. So it's possible people have traded in
I feel like a hybrid powertrain is very possible. Supercharged v8 in the back and electric motors up front.
I live in the Houston area, I see C8's, but not as many as I would have thought would be around. I still see C7's and older all the time. I have seen one E-ray.
I saw a C6 ZR-1 pull a wheelie at a drag strip in Valdosta GA. It actually lost to a Supra. Both had Drag tires etc..
Non-stock supras are easier to make faster
Love the content. Been a subscriber for awhile 🤟. I have liked the E-RAY ever since I saw it was coming out. If I had the 💲💲I would buy one in a heartbeat.
To me the fun aspect of a car is the most important part, sure, you can have a car that always gets traction, has a smooth pull, and handles perfectly, but im still gonna pick the screaming kinda sketchy dosent get traction to well and throws the front end up in the air when you stomp the throttle.
I bet chevy will put the e-ray drivetrain into the Z06 and call it ZR1. It's the easiest way about it, since the car is already designed for it and this way it also gains 4wd for better traction. And with 160HP electric motor, the total hrspwrs will be ~830HP which is a lot.
I know it’s off topic but I saw a Cybertruck for the first time on a day that wasn’t my greatest and it made me smile 🥲 But I’m also in an area where you wouldn’t expect a lot of cool cars but there’s 3 CTSV wagons in my town, a couple V10 M6s and a few M5s etc etc
I bought a C8 Z06 convertible and it’s the best sports car I’ve ever owned. I knew the ZR1 was coming but I prefer the NA engine in the Z06. And it’s so fast and well sorted I honestly never yearn for more power in it. I think the Z06 is the pinnacle drivers car.
I've seen many C6s and starting to see lots of C8s as well
Will the transmission hold up
I was sooooooo happy to hear you say “it can’t be a midlife crisis if it’s a manual”. That needs to be a tshirt Bud!!! Also made me feel better about myself which means I probably ought to go talk to my therapist… 😵💫😵💫😵💫😵💫
I’ve ridden in some fast cars, and I’ll say that a modded C6 ZR1 was the most terrifying. Not the fastest, but the most insane. The car just acted like it was looking for every chance to kill you. It was awesome.
Wow what a beautiful car.. any idea how many horsepower and quarter mile times?
Former C8 owner here… i have 3 on my street alone in El Paso. Apparently they produced like 50k plus last year alone…up from 30k the year before
The reason why they went with Crossplane over FPC on the GT500 was because the GT350 couldn't handle a roots style Supercharger reliably so they went with a cross plane as its a more robust design. A turbo isn't cam/belt driven do its going to remain FPC
Lol I work at the milford proving grounds so I definitely see corvettes literally everywhere. Outside work during the summer, I see at least 1 a day. I think the C8s just catch your eyes more than the C7 or C6.
Living in Houston Texas with Corvette weather nearly year round we see TONS of C5s C6s C7s and C8s on the roads all the time. more older C5s and 6s than 8s though.
Speaking of Ford GT. My friend Kevin owns both an 05 and 2020. He actually road trips his 2020 all the time. He is also getting that Mustang GTD and Im willing to bet he will drive that as well. He is a real car guy. He buys them to drive not to sit.
Do cross plane engines typically last longer than flat? I thought it was the other way around.
The C8 platform needs and manual option to set itself apart. Period. Imagine how fun a manual C8Z/ZR1 would be! I feel you on the age thing David! Still worth it!
I saw an E-Ray at a Chevy dealer in NJ getting ready for delivery, not quite "in the wild" but close.
The ZR1 is going to have the Z06 engine with the ERay front e-motor. Makes the most since
I agree even where I’m from in Maine I’ve seen a lot of C8’s. Poor man’s super car. The ZR1 is gonna be sick manual or not. If I ever get to see one lol
I agree about the collectible aspect. Cars are meant to be driven.
I've seen my neighbor drive is c8 in the snow and i think why you see them alot is because they know the reliability of chevy. The c8 looks like a supercar and the corvette is like a mustang it's a american icon many people around the globe loves these cars
I live in Bowling Green Ky and I see vettes everywhere Z06’s regular C8’s and I’ve only seen one E ray
love the look of the C8. beautiful car. Its a bargain for what you get but id never go back to a gas car... ever. But when they come out with a full electric version and my kids are all in college i'll be shopping for one.
If Chevy are serious about track times and having usable power, they’ll keep the Z06 engine and electrify it with the same E Ray system and make it AWD. AWD isn’t popular sometimes but with that much power, AWD helps tremendously
It won’t be RWD. It will be AWD if it wants to be quicker than the E-Ray.
@ThatDudeinBlue David, by chance did you start feeling the car sickness stuff more after you got the Covid shot? (That is if you got it)
Me too! I see new model corvettes almost every day. Super popular :)
I rarely see C8s, and I live less than an hour from where they’re built.
I see plenty of them on Facebook marketplace for astronomical amounts of money though.
I think they will put the zo6 motor with the e ray hybrid system so it’s all wheel drive and has the zo6 sound and more power
Seriously considering a gr corolla by the end of the year. Hopefully I'll find a decent deal on pre-owned. Love my 06 g35 but it's getting old and having more frequent issues
Hey David. I have a small question - do you always deliberately use very low quality versions of your videos when you're showing clips from them? I understand that you probably don't keep all of your recorded videos on your computer, but if you're just taking the clips from your own YT channel, then they should still be in a better quality. Is it a stylistic choice? Is it even intentional? I personally feel like it always takes away from the video a little. I don't mean to hate or anything. Just genuinely curious.
Saw a corvette E-ray for the first time at Caffeine and octane last weekend, it was a dark gray and i had to do a double take since i also see sooo many normal C-8's, Adonis and Daily Driven drove in with like 20 c8's a month ago LMFAO
As long as it beats the cars from overseas, I’m happy. Go Corvette!
Why not go with what they already have and merge the E-Ray hybrid system with the Z06’s engine?
The C8 ZR1 is supposed to have a starting msrp of $150k (markups are gonna be crazy tho) and comes in an 8 spd automatic along with a flat plane 5.5L V8 engine with twin turbos pushing around 850hp. Also it will have AFM which is a hell of a bummer for most and will also come with VVT.
$400k after markups
@@iFigure fr
Saw two base c8s and a z06 when going out for lunch yesterday, so in a 30min interval. Wild
And I’ve seen one e ray also
im in georgia and its a everyday thing. Like you said even more the the c6 and c7
I put my money on it being a hybrid. LaFerrari-esque. Flat plane crank like the z06 but with an electric motor added like e-ray.
No, what would be amazing, is if they make a true supercar, is give it the E-Ray hybrid system as well as twin turbos. Though I'd bet that'd land it in the $300k range, so it's really not likely sadly.
I am most interested in what the MSRP will be on the ZR1. My question is how much "cheaper" will the ZR1 MSRP be compared to a comparable Ferrari or Lamborghini.
Im in central Florida, I see probably 3 to 5 C8 per day. They're beautiful and sound awesome
Awd supercarged with agressive areo thats goin be the zr1 maybe brake vectoring kinda like the viper acr agressive.
C6 ZR1 was very raw. C7 ZR1 is scary fast but not as crazy raw and unruly as the C6. I own a 7MT car and unless you are something crazy on cold tires - it never loses traction.
I THINK I've seen 1 E-ray, I saw a Ford GT this weekend, it was either white or yellow and a new NSX yesterday.
I would like to see the ZR1 have the Z06 rear engine and the eRay front engine.
As for E Ray production, something is very wrong there. Still only producing about 36 per week into May of 24
I think the ZR1 is going to be a hybrid with the Z06 engine. AWD, 250 to 350hp front motor, beefed up E-Ray battery etc etc.
It fits the most with what they’re doing with the car - Chasing Nurburgring Euro performance with a Chevy badge on it.
I see C8s everywhere too, but I rarely see another 21 Mach 1. I love that I have a car that is always the only one at cars & coffee shows, at least so far. Even the C8 ZO6s are becoming common in my area.
Still at this point there are over twice as many mach 1s out there than c8 z06s. Must just be your area
@@trashbandit2449 Could be. I'll just enjoy it while it lasts.
@@machdaddy6451 definitely not a common car though. They look great
@@trashbandit2449 I drove one at Speed Vegas. It is the best Corvette ever.
@@trashbandit2449 Thanks. After I drove a C8 Corvette I realized that it's a true sports car, where as the Mustang is a pony car. The C8 is the first Corvette that I like as much as any Mustang.
i live in south florida i see more C8s on the road than , c7s , and c6s , only ever seen 1 e ray
I seen a fully loaded Z06 with a MSRP of 176,000 at the dealer, so im sure it won't be hard to get the ZR1 over 200k.
I see the new ZR 1 , and pretty much all performance ice cars used on the street , as product for people who can't let go of the past. the car had to change to rear wheel drive to keep up with the coming competition as the price point goes upwards. Not that the buyers will ever use all that speed , but won't buy if another sports car has the advantage in testing. people will choose the winning paper tiger .
I'm an old guy , so a c5 with the top down gives me everything I desire in a car, except for good gas milage around town.
Yes I see C8s everywhere! And I ain’t mad about it.
Omfg that is the best red vs blue episode. I can't believe that reference in a car video lmao
Im sure this car is and will be great, but also so so complacated to the point of losing interest in it. The average person unless winning one will never be able to have one or drive one which is fine when you have finally accepted it lol. I feel like the 1960's was the best time to own something simple and quick for the average person. Those times are gone, RIP simplicity.
In LA you can’t leave the house without seeing at least one or two c8 cars. No matter where I go in the country, the two most seen gens oddly is the c4 and c8. I see c4 vettes everywhere. The c5 is the one I see the least of not counting c1-c2
The only thing will help lower the ZR1 price is Zora coming after it.
Ive never seen a C8 E-Ray before but ive seen multiple Zo6s I live near paragon performance they specialize in the C8 platform