MY BIGGEST MISTAKE YET On This INCOME PROPERTY RENOVATION!!! MIKE'S FIRST FLIP EP. 8
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This episode I'm finishing the new kitchen cabinets with an HPLV sprayer so that they match the existing cabinets. My expectations vs reality were2 different things. I got a FANTASTIC result spraying the satin oil based polyurethane by rustoleum with the Wagner Control Spray max, but the difference in door / drawer shape was too much to overcome. If it's affordable I'll buy pre-finished raised panel doors to match and keep the cabinet boxes in place. I might buy unfinished doors again and apply finish myself depending on what it costs. if you've purchased cabinet doors before please let me know what company you used and what you thought.
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Hi, My name is Mike Montgomery and I'm a MAKER; a designer, builder, and full-time content creator. Accessibility is my focus with Modern Builds, not simply accessibility of designs, but accessibility in materials, information, and projects themselves. I've focused on creating furniture and DIY projects that are simple enough that any beginner maker can accomplish, yet interesting enough that any expert might be inspired. Building and making is becoming less and less of an exclusive hobby and profession. My goal is to reduce that separation even further. 
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y’all mad bc he “wants to be a landlord” but he’s literally redoing 95% of this entire house himself and renting it out. yeah that’s hard and yeah landlords will make redo the whole thing for little to nothing but that’s not what he’s trying to achieve. this is his second remodel home.. nobody gets it right on the first or even second time around🤦🏼♂️
Yea that’s the complaint. You don’t get it right on your first or second remodel but you still sell or rent your shoddy work. That’s the true nasty Landlord style, just do it cheap who cares as long as you get your money every month
@@groundupRVA why's that the complaint then... he tried it and didnt get it right so he's gonna do it again instead of being cheap and leaving it like that
F..k prefection.
@@groundupRVA Don't buy or rent it then
@@MrWhybotherwithme yea obviously, was that confusing?
When mix and matching cabinets you will always struggle to get them to look similar enough for it to not be noticeable if you use a clear finish. That's why i always recommend just painting the cabinets instead of trying to match a clear coat
The raised-panel vs flat-panel doors sticks out worse than the drawer front.
Those exact cabinets are sold in-store at Lowe’s 👍
Can't buy those his big orange sponsor wouldn't be happy.
I checked and they just had the same flat panel doors from a different manufacturer. I think they quit carrying them now that shaker cabinets are more popular
@@ModernBuilds oh, that stinks. The Lowes here in Texas still carry them.🙁
Mike, thank you for never letting mistakes stop you or get you down. Your relentless positivity in this space is so so encouraging to me. I hope you know - some of the things you don’t plan to show us / teach us are some of the most valuable things you do. Man I am so glad I found this channel years ago.
2 steps forward, 1 step back. I'm really happy with how the Cabinet boxes and Face Frames look. I've been doing research on new doors and might order from thecabinetdoorstore or fastcabinetdoors. Let me know if you've used any of these direct to consumer cabinet door companies and what you thought of the experience and quality of the doors! Thanks for supporting everybody, I appreciate it a ton :)
My biggest mistake on rental properties is spending to much and being to perfect. Tenants will not care most of the time and things will get damaged. Invest to much money and you will not get any money extra. If you just want to make rental income then just leave the cabinets as is or just spray everything one color. You can do the matt black or gray finish what is really popular here in Europe but to be safe for now and the years to come use white. As a rental property white always will be the best choice since the tenant can style with there own colors. Also reparing later on, a white finish is always easy to match.
But well, this is in my experiance... I'm just someone that spends 50.000 Euro to much on each of my first rental properties ;-) Now looking for sales and overstock items (no bad quality!). Leave my personal tast at home, leave my perfect eye for detail at home and just make rental properties. Also, gives me a lot less stress when renting out a property since the everything that can damage is easy to replace, cheap and not time consuming 🙂 This gives me a piece of mind!
Looks like a fun project! Wish I could be there to help. But well, I'm based in Europe (Spain and Netherlands). Good luck with it and I will check out your progress next videos!
look at changing the color up a bit in all your wood work , it’s always the boring poly urethane finish. Please dude the brown is killing your great work vibe 😢
Why won’t you paint them? Instead of replacing all of the drawers and doors.
I am 90% sure that the existing cabinets are from lowes and are the diamond now brand denver series.
Those old cabs look like the Diamond brand cabs that you can get at Lowes. I think they are hickory too. I can’t recall if HD carries that brand or not but Lowes definitely does.
Good to know! I checked in store and didn’t see an exact match, it glad to hear you think it’s hickory too!!! Probably placing the doors order tomorrow!
@@ModernBuilds I have those exact cabinets in my house. Lowes online has the diamond now denver hickory cabinets that are extremely close. The only difference is that the stationary center piece of wood between the doors is now eliminated. ( I made an island using the new version and no one has noticed the difference) Probably a heck of a lot cheaper than special ordering doors. Hopefully, if you replace the whole cabinet it will get those door and drawer lines back inline.
It was too short. I love your videos.
Love being here as you learn grow and teach Mike!
Tip for cobinets, check to see who made them. A lot of time there is a logo imprinted on a door or drawer. Once you know who crafted them, you can take a door to them, most will be able to tell you the style, type of wood, and stain used. Some companies will stain match as well. Did this for a renno i did to my kitchen. I wanted to add on like you did. Took the door to a few HW stores and a lady at home depot knew exactly the cabinets i had..
Penetrol for thinning oil based paints and varnishes/poly. Flotrol for Latex based paints. I've had better luck with these yielding a more solid finish that lays down well.
Dad literally doing the heavy lifting! Thumbs up to daddy cool!
My recommendation for Airless sprayers is the FinishPro II sprayers from Graco. It's an Air-Assisted Airless system. They can spray almost anything flawlessly. You can work faster and use less material. They aren't cheap, but the results are unbeatable, in my opinion.
You are so fun to watch and I love learning with you along the way.
@7:22 It's always good when you don't get the runs, especially bubbly runs.
It’s actually HVLP for your sprayer, not HPLV. High Volume Low Pressure is the name of the game. They sure work well.
For sure hickory; they sell these cabinet bases with exact doors like you already had on the blue store or the red store big box.
the orange store in my area has them too
I used those same home depot cabinets to add uppers & lowers to a blank wall in my kitchen. I’d previously made replacement shaker doors for my original 1960s cabinets and this video reminds me I still need to make matching ones for the home depot cabinets.
It’s really not that bad of a project, even with the fancier finish work on yours. Dado blade (not needed but makes super quick work) to cut the groove and make the tenons for the rails and stiles. One or more router bits depending on angles needed should handle the chamfers. I think the biggest expense and pain would be sourcing the wood for the raised panels once you figure out what species you need (I’ve only ever cheated and used ply or mdf because I’ve only done non-raised, painted).
Good luck and I can’t wait to see the next part!
You can still water base ploy for your topcoat. You will just need to use a clear oil stain and let it dry for 8 to 12 hours then topcoat. This way the stain will bring out the color from the wood. That was a great trick I learned from a door refinisher. That way the oil poly won't over amber and have a darker amber tone then the older doors.
Keep Up The Great Work❣️
It looks great! but the cabinet you added you can put it in shelf’s without the doors. I think that way you won’t know the difference with the other cabinets. Good job 👍
Lesson learned. Good luck on the fix.
Great job, thats awesome you enjoy learning the trade. Next time install the boxes without the doors/shelves and mount the boxes together under the hinges on the face frame. No one will see the screws and the cabinets are pulled together to support each other. I use a Titan Capspray 115 and use water base lacquer or conversion varnish as a finish. Good luck friend!!
I honestly thought you were joking when you said the doors are going to blend.....hmmmmm....but you were serious???
To me, the original cabinets look like hickory and the new cabinets- oak, so yeah, the finished product appearance is going to look different.
Mike. You already know the answer as to whether you should dilute your first coating on your new wood etc, as you said when you dilute the first coatings of the product it helps to lay the finish in a flatter way thus allowing the following coatings to be flatter and all round a way more professional finish. I don't know if you noticed but when you was about to start first coating on the fresh side of the doors, when you picked up the draw panel it actually looked like it had a couple of finger imprints on the panel itself. Hopefully you noticed it too and didn't just spray over the top of it without doing any sanding etc. As always buddy 💯% 👍 🇬🇧.
If matching the cabinets/drawer fronts doesn't work, just make it an feature by ismatching them, using different styles, different finishes. But, imho, only that wide drawer front doesn't look that good, the rest looks pretty good to me!
Love your honesty and hard work! Good job, Mike!
Why am I just finding out about this channel. I Luv this guys vibe, talent and determination. Now I have to subscribe! ✊🏾
The uppers match pretty well. What if that lower cabinet was completely removed but you added a peninsula countertop instead? Add a couple stools good to go!
Between the last video and this you used two different paint sprayers. Can you list some pros and cons between the two? I'm looking to buy one soon.
Always love the videos, how do you get your sleeves stay rolled up like that? Whenever I do it they always roll down 😢
I’m concerned. I was told by a flooring installer that any old tile that had black backing and adhesive has an asbestos component. I hope you tested first.
If you take a piece of the same species wood as the original cabinets and glue in a raise panel on those new cabinet doors, it will blend better. And use the same wood to make a new drawer faces.
Can you put some of the upper cabinet doors down below since they have the knots and grain that match the lowers??
Thanks to Dad Montgomery for his help and his service.
You have to keep in mind that you aren't building a luxury rental. or so I think...
Think already of the kitchen colors and design. And make the one you don't like an accent color like grey. Under the sink, can look cool
The original cabinets look like they are the Denver series from Lowe’s…. The front panels match the finish matches. Maybe give those a look.
a simple router jig to flatten the old doors would help them blend in, then a coat of paint to all the to add a bit of colour and you will be golden. why buy any more new cabinets.
Clean look
I would paint at least just all bottom cabinets white with the warm wood tone on top will look good I think
One tiny mistake. You got this!
I don't think rz masks are approved for spraying? though I am interested in the new mask for woodworking.
The joy of being wrong Jordan. It means you know more today than you did yesterday. That’s pretty cool. P&L C
Do you clean the gun between coats? I find myself just grabbing a brush because of the clean up
It looks like you are like me? Sometimes little to excited, and not thinking some things trough..
Anyways good job, and hopefully new things learned ❤
Should paint them white or that jade green.
Lowes may have the matching doors.
Probably if you paint all in a solid color you can solve the issue. Like an off white color.
I would have painted them all the same color
You know those are available at lowes right? They are called Acacia I think. But my lowes has them in stock all the time. And they come finished.
Different woods, different panels, Different height cabinets, no one's going to notice. I can't believe you led with that.
Good luck with the landlord thing, there are good renters out there, but they probably already have a place.
Screams landlord special. Just do it right!
I dont see the issue lmao I'd just be happy with cabinets in a place I rent lmao
He is doing it correctly lmao just made a simple mistake
@@Okams exactly
You try to install cabinets better yet try making them they aren’t as easy as you think
I mean he's trying to be one so he's doing it right.
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Bolth...2:15
When you were buying those cab's in the store I was saying to myself: "There's no way he's going to make those look like the knotty pine looking cabs that existed in the kitchen". Sorry I was right. But you gave it a shot, no shame there, and you can fix it with a bit more $$. We all learn things from mistakes, embrace it, let it go and move on. Just like you usually do because you are still awesome.
HPLV 😂
This was the best part of the video
The original cabinets are Hickory- your new ones are pine. Totally different wood grain.😢
Yeah I would've painted them white if I was trying to match cabinets like that. Probably cheaper to just buy new cabinets than spend all this time and money trying to match the. I bet it's less than $1000 in base cabinets from Home Depot. Just my 2 cents as a guy who flips and wholesales 100+ houses a year
I would buy the same cabinets as the originals at the big box stores. Or, order them online. I would use the new cabinets somewhere else in the house, i.e. storage, entertainment cabinets, bathrooms. Something, just get creative. 🤷🏽♀️
Thanks for emitting you mistake. Still looking pretty good. I think you will figure out the species you need, no big deal. Use the haters to fuel you. Thats what they are here for.
You tried putting poly on PAINT GRADE DOORS even if they matched the profile of the others (which they don’t) it would have still looked like shit when you went to install them. If you are using wood finish you need STAIN GRADE DOORS. Also no light rail, crown, end panels or even proper toe skin OR height. If I did anything like this at my job I’d be fired
Your parents are really cool 😎
Would it be better to paint the kitchen, Mike?
Should’ve put the screws behind the shelves
Why do you not paint the cabinets, who wants this old-fashioned look anyway?
Personally I would use some cool contact paper on the face of that drawer and leave it there.
Ya
Keep going brah. Great job.
HPLV 😂 but I get that it is confusing.
IKEA cabinet doors
Maybe painting would have been better. 😊
You’re doing a good job, but people expect much better put together kitchens (& baths), and usually a more current style. The cabinet wood and door design is a bit dated. You did a good job, but it’s not a style that appeals to buyers under 50 yo. See what the real estate agents think of your kitchen aesthetic.
Overall looks good. I would have been more concerned about the cabinet at the end being too tall and needing to hack the drawers down. I am glad you're keeping the cabinets you have and sticking to wood. Good job Mike!
yeah the old cabinets are definitely hickory and the new ones are probably an oak.
Maybe it’s common for your area but this color screams 90s non-upgraded builder home and dated in my area.
It's a nice classic look. I hate white cabinet. It's boring.
Same. Unless it's a fancy wood species it usually looks cheap and dated. White cabinets also look a little dated though i hear they are coming back into style
Why not just paint them
I always thought Taco Bell was the quickest way to get runs....
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Just paint the cabinets.
HVLP*
You going to replace all the door and draws all because of 1 cabinet?
That's a waste. Just bring a door from the old cabinet to a cabinet and kitchen showroom. ANd buy a matching pair.
That's what he's doing...
Didn't he said he would get all new ones, for all of them?
@@saulgoodman2018 I thought he said he was getting some for the new cabinet to match all of the others. If he's doing the reverse, I agree that's stupid as hell lol.
@@striketochill Maybe it's just the way he worded it. I though he meant all of them.
Or maybe I just interpreted it wrong?
meh, just make new doors for the set you inserted into the peninsula. Make them like the others with raised middles. Don't say you made concrete countertops!
Hey man, your dad looks a bit tired in this video..
Your biggest mistake was buying an investment home and renting it out.. you’ll barely profit in this market if any
This is no big deal. You can just make a new door with ur skill 😁
No offense but I'd not want to be the person who buys this house
Your more than likely going to charge like this house was remodel by professionals but it wasn't and someone won't know that.
And why not?
It looks terrible
First?
Your eyes look fxcking gorgeous in some of these shots
it was fine for a rental
its a time waster from the strart. paint them millenial gray and move on. youre here to make money, not build a craftsman home.
i still can not comprehend that americans will rent or buy a house or flat and keep the existing kitchen ^^
Hiring out for a full kitchen remodel is $15,000-30,000. That’s most people’s down payment and closing costs with no money left for much but some furniture.
@@101realtor well over here, people usually bring their kitchen with them when moving in.
@@miko007 that's not how it works here.
If I had to buy all new appliances for my house when I purchased it 10 years ago I would still be without them...I can think of 100 different things to buy besides appliances. Air fryer maybe a microwave and a dorm refrigerator....maybe I would have appliances after all.
@@gregmize01 i know, i just stated, that i can not comprehend that ^^
i would never want to use a kitchen, that has been used before.
biggest mistake was wanting to be a landlord.
I had a rental and made over a hundred grand by selling it. Only owned it for 4 years too
ITS MIKE BIGEEST LISPS!! 😂😂
He's flipping it, not renting it.
aren’t you just a clever under achiever 🙄
Truth
Seriously throw out the cabinets. They are horrible. People want nice kitchens and bathrooms
Unsub cause the titles are getting annoying
Been watching you for years - maybe look at changing the color up a bit in all your wood work , it’s always the boring poly urethane finish. Please dude the brown is killing your great work vibe 😢
It’s ugly af