How to Remove Vinyl / Linoleum Tile and Adhesive from Plywood Subfloors
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2023
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I've got back to back videos coming up with prepping the Income property for new Luxury Vinyl Flank Flooring! I ended needing to remove these floors after talking to a friend about what to do and they were tougher to get up than I expected. Hopefully this video shows what to expect with a similar job and whether or not its worth renting a power scraper from somewhere like Home Depot. If I were doing this kind of project again I would start with the same tools that I did, but as soon as I saw that it was getting to be more than a 1 day job with manual tools, I'd rent a power scraper for 4 hours and knock it out. Sometimes I learn lessons the hard way lol! Next episode is coming out in a couple days where I'll be leveling out the plywood subfloor taking care of both high and low spots! Thanks for watching
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1. Asbestos in old vinyl tiles. 2. Abestos in old mastic used to glue the tiles down. 3. A hammer drill works a treat as a scraper: get a flat blade SDS attachment and set the drill to hammer-only mode (no rotation).
I can just feel the sore back, knees, arms, every part of body just from watching this x_x
Those flooring tiles have a tendency to have asbestos glue. I really hope you had that tested before you removed it. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to still get it tested in case you were exposed.
Even the floor tiles can have asbestos in them.
I was going to say that. Especially depending on when the house was built 😢hopefully not.
yup black glue and vinyl tiles... major red flags
Yeah...looks like brittle 9x9's, almost certainly VAT (vinyl asbestos tile). the RZ mask is better than nothing, but probably should have worn P100
100% asbestos in those
We did a similar job in our basement with the scraper blade on the recip saw. You don’t get the damage on the concrete so for anyone watching I feel it’s a great way to go if you’re dealing with a slab.
For the future, I recently struggled with vinyl flooring being stuck in our kitchen. We were remodelling, and I used all of these methods AND did a chemical strip. Chemical strip needed 2 days to get down below into the glue. Vinyl wasn't a tile but a sheet.
Just cutting out the existing subfloor and replacing with new subfloor was WAY easier and time effective than taking out all the rest. I got out as much as I could, then crowbared everything up and took up any screws that might have been in there. Cut and laid new subfloor and I'm so happy I have a new floor to work on than trying to level out an old one.
Thanks for letting us see all the possible ways to tackle this. I was surprised by the variety available. Though as you've learned, it's usually not worth trying to avoid buying/renting a tool, especially for someone who regularly works on large projects like yourself. Your labor is valuable. If a hundred bucks saves you 2-4 hours, it paid for itself.
I used a Conair Steamer and scraper to remove my tiles works like a charm.❤
I was watching your episodes as soon as they posted, then all of a sudden they stopped showing up. 5 months later, found you again. Lets do this!
I've got a few videos already filmed with this LPV flooring prep and install! Stay tuned and let me know if you've got any tricks or hacks for getting tiles and adhesive up from plywood subfloors. Thanks for watching!!
Just in case you miss the comment fron another user. Did you check the tiles and adhesive for asbestos?
Man, this guy can scrape! I’m in awe of his work ethic, as always.
We miss you and your work. ❤
I was starting to think you forgot about the channel. Welcome back!
Amazing absolutely beautiful
Former flooring guy here n i would use a 12-18 inch scraper. Also i would keep all my used, dull oscillating blades n give them a sharp edge just for this reason here. They really came in handy for those stubborn tiles. Good to see you wearing hand n knee protection. Great job as always
Do you think there is asbestos in the tiles/glue?
@quilleymemory I believe it's in the tile, not glue. In these tiles, I don't think so
Old 9”x9” linoleum tiles usually contain asbestos adhesives and might contain in the backer material definitely do not want to agitate that stuff😬
love your videos thanks for the content
Proud of you Mike keep doing your best and being inspirational 💋
Ummm, who's gonna tell him that those flooring tiles/glue he removed looked like asbestos???? Could've sworn he's been warned in the comments section in a previous video. I can't believe he's not even wearing a respirator either. Must have not taken it seriously. Yikes!
Old vinyl flooring can be a pain. Real linoleum comes in a sheet and is beautiful wears like iron and is naturally anti microbial. But it’s hugely expensive. I’ve loving this series
We laid Marmoleum in our kitchen, which is a true linoleum product. I don't recall it being particularly expensive. Even vinyl is pretty pricey around here, so maybe the Marmoleum didn't seem much more.
I had done that in the past and I found out that a SDS drill works best!
So this is a sales video for all sorts of gadgets plus square space. If anyone else does this for just removing adhesive stuck Lino tiles just use a wallpaper steamer for 30 seconds on each. Softens adhesive quick and they peel up easy. And if they are potentially pre 1970 linoleum a lot of people are citing asbestos warnings. Tests and companies offering testing are available but if nothing gets airborne there’s probably no issue.
very helpful! thank you
I’ve used a spade and a computer chair before. Worked well
I helped my brother with his Tattoo Shop he started. The place he leases had this old linoleum tile flooring about two layers worth, wound up renting the power floor scraper. man it made short work of it. We started with a steel bar scraper my stepdad made. it was way too my physical work and we barely made it through the first layer.
SDS Drill and Chisel bit👍🏾
I used a swazall with a Spider flat blade attatchment. Cut through my 60 years old tile like butter. Left some felt backing on the floor though.
Hot dang Mike, you have been working so hard! Godspeed, young man. We are also reno’ing an older home and it is NOT easy 😭.
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I basically just did this but was installing tile in my kitchen. Had the same struggle with pulling up the floor as some spots had a TON of adhesive.
I ended up buying a floor scraper from Harbor freight and that thing was great.
All metal with a long handle giving it weight and has replaceable blades, item number 60572
Ahaha I was going to comment you need to try standing floor scrapper and then you finally did !
Good work mister 👏🏼👏🏼 you did well
that floor puller would have come in handy 3 weeks ago when i ripped up my kitchen and powder room.
You should sand the floor before installing anything new, the glue will be way more sticky. On the old stuff, it will get loose in 2 years max. Just a good pass like the wall with 500 to clean the plywood sheet of the ground is always a good idea.
Sawzall with floor scraper attachment.
Geez watching you work makes my back and knees cry! I would definitely suggest getting knee pads
Viewers should be aware that these 9x9 tiles often have asbestos laden adhesive underneath them!!!
This is never mentioned
We call that tool an ice breaker here in NY. Guess it has many uses.
Luxury vinyl flooring is really funny
What happend to the moudern maker podcast?
I was worried you weren’t going to do the jingle “Mike’s First Flip”.
a spade bit on SDS helps. and dont let the city know if you suspect asbestos. big $ fines
Luv u Mike but I've been waiting on this video and it too shorts 😮
Genuine curiosity. Why didn't you do the flooring before the kitchen cupboards? It seems like it would be easier to floor an empty room and then put the cupboards on the new flooring.
People are commenting about asbestos.. how could that be an issue when the glue is wet before removal?
Did you test that black adhesive for asbestos? If not... you have been exposed shipmate...
Did you wear only a Levi's jeans brand,,?
Nice. Just like a SUPER PRO.
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I respect the hard work but you gotta just buy a a hammer drill with an appropriate sds flat bit. Work smarter not harder fam
Dude, 9x9 tiles have asbestos in them.
Can u tell me ehat else flooring has asbestos? So i can note them on my list
yay kneepads! =)
I thought most 12x12 tiles did have abestos
Did I miss the theme song to Mike's first flip??
Ah there it is! 9:38
Hi 👋🏾
The author does like to from scratch, ruclips.net/user/postUgkxbnOKZBE4evMO5V2vroHeCjq6d_MV6wJO shaping and trimming wood from large blocks into fine finished products. As another reviewer mentioned, most projects require a lot of high-dollar equipment that most of us don’t have the room or budget for. But, knowing how to do these things, even if we won’t be able to practise the full stack project, is still great.
You could’ve just leveled out the flooring with self level cement and not needed to remove the asbestos tiles.
You are not being sponsored for your scraper and such but you are an Amazon affiliate and need to specify this somewhere close to your links
Don’t use the full width of the blade. Where ever it’s really stuck use a third to half the width of the blade.
Ya
Digging in asbestos with no PPE.. literally just took years off his life to make a RUclips video.
Listening to the shouting is more stressful than removing linoleum itself. Sorry. Love the content.
What kind of mask did he have on?
say it don’t spray it
He scraped **asbestos** he could 😅
that is too much work..
So now we’re down to 9 minute videos (including promo) every 3 weeks? 🤔 might as well binge the whole thing in a year…
Don’t do this!
The paper backing and the mastic is suspect and if positive is usual 20 percent plus asbestos. To put that in perspective popcorn ceiling is usually around 3 and drywall mud around 2. If it’s positive the house would not pass an air test and dust samples in the ducts and even on a surfaces on a different floor would probably not pass and would be considered contaminated. His liability for property, people’s health and illegal dumping is endless and actually has a high chance of being caught, if the next owner has the smarts to do it legally then there’s a pre-abatement air test (so the abatement company doesn’t take the blame for contamination) and if the air test fails or is even high the abatement can’t start, and that’s when contamination dust testing starts and that’s when bankruptcy starts.
I will pass on the debate on how bad it’s for your health I’m in the middle on that debate so I’m not an asbestos alarmist. It is however very regulated.
I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Once asbestos tiles and adhesive is removed it's gone. Lay a new flooring material and you're good to go. There's no risk of somehow contaminating the home down the road. Years back when I used to do a little asbestos abatement work we either a) removed or b) encapsulated the material. Encapsulating simply means sealing or covering. So....sand or scrape this floor, carefully vacuum it with a HEPA-equipped vacuum, then lay your new flooring material. Of course, seal off this work area from the rest of the house before starting. I think people have an inflated idea as to the risk involved. Asbestos is not nuclear waste (I worked in nuclear research too, once upon a time, as a young university student) and you simply need to follow a few basic rules.
Good thing you're like 25 or so. LOL!!!
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Asbestos mastic glue and asbestos tile. Not super pro and really stupid
Please don’t do another shitty concrete floor. Put down some LVP or tile
Damn you're really milking the content with these 9min videos
Only 9 mins 🙄 could have kept that in the draft