Shell petroleum plant in Houston is the cleanest. Ive worked for many petroleum companies but Shell was good to the people and great maintenance in shut down turn arounds.
Generally wouldn't use 85w/140 in a gearbox. Used in Final drive conventional differentials. Not used in combined gear/ final drive transmissions either because viscosity is far too high for syncrohmesh operation.
I have been using Shell 15 w 40 rotella in everything from my Toyota 4 cylinder to my lawn mower.I have no complaints.Also use it in three different diesel from Kabota to Detroit diesel.
All this video does is reveal whats already been know..... That heavier viscosity lubricants will always run hotter merely because of the higher friction and force necessary for the gear assembly to move through it. That doesnt mean its not more fitting for a specific application either, because if load is high enough and capacity is small enough, higher viscosity will outperform a lower viscosity in maximum running temps. So people.....dont go swapping fluids around in your vehicles until you confirm what fluids will or wont work in your vehicle.
Or simply go with your Owner's Manual. If it states to only use the manufacturer's ATF or MTF lubricant, stick to that. If it states to uses a specific viscosity (75W-90) lubricant, then you can experiment with different brands of the same viscosity lubricant (or take the brand's word for it).
@ROAD SASH - Under high load small capacity applications a higher viscosity will run cooler because lighter viscosity will not withstand the load. Example, a light truck differential with 4 quarts may require 75-140 if towing but a 80,000 lb class 8 line-hauler differential with 5 gallons will require only 80-90.
@ROAD SASH - You're talking about engine oil which is different than gear fluid. It is critical to stay within the parameters of the engine oil viscosity specs set from factory. Although yes, depending on the type of climate and running conditions of your bike you can run a slightly heavier or lighter viscosity. A Honda dealer should be able to answer that question for you.
@ROAD SASH - That is correct. But motorcycle transmissions are subject to the heat from the cylinder and clutch slippage, not the gears. Therefore you have to run an oil specific to wet motorcycle clutches otherwise you'll have clutch issues.
If I'm not mistaken viscosity 140 is for gearbox like differential so I think even I've got lower temp using viscosity 90 on differential the viscosity is mismatch then I would be in trouble in latter time
So are you telling everybody to ignore the manufacturer’s spec and put in your lower viscosity oil ? It would make for an interesting conversation with a warranty claim if it were to fail. They only mention temp and not lubrications or anti wear properties .
Hello, I am going to change the oil in the front and rear differentials of a Porche Cayenne (9PA) V6-3.6 290CV year 2008. I can put this Spirax S6 AXME 75W-90 oil. Thank you
So are you telling everybody to ignore the manufacturer’s spec and put in your lower viscosity oil ? It would make for an interesting conversation with a warranty claim if it were to fail
Now take the temperature of the metal gears itself. The conventional oil will show a lower temp on the gears, it acts as a heat sink to pull heat away from the metal.
@Gnob Mio His talking about the color of the bottle, 80w90 s2 is a red bottle but the color of the synthetic gearbox fluid is the same as the video. Just threw it in today.
For sure. But look at the title. It's maybe running cooler on a bench,not in real life conditions... the engine will heat up both at the same temps anyway. The only benefit is reduced friction. leading peoples to think it will run cooler is a mistake,and this isn't a mistake oil manufacturers should make....
Woudn't doing a test WITH an engine being useless as engine temperature would heat up transmission and skew the results to some deegree? This test shows just the impact of oil viscosity with the variation from engine, air flow, etc. removed. All the heat here comes from friction and the point of this video was to show less friction. Also transmission oil is used in differentials which are not always integrated into gearbox, like in front engine, rear wheel drive cars.
That was not the point of the video. Read the title and description : "Cool Running" and "Thermal imaging of a Perspex gearbox demonstrates the lower operating temperature" wich is only what's happening on a workbench,not in real life.
Heat transmission to the gearbox from the engine is negligible. The primary components of thermal conductivity in a firing engine are too far removed from the crank shaft, considering the speed of rotation, and the intermediary components between the gearbox and the crank.
Also different oil types, one is a semi and one is a full synth.. full synth generally run a little cooler for a given weight. It is full apples and oranges trying to sell a product.
Just curious - What does it make run cooler? It means less heat dissipation, so there must be some change in properties that affects this. The first two that I think of is either lower viscosity (less internal friction in a fluid) or better lubricity (less metal-to-metal friction)
CARLOS EMMANUEL RUVALCABA DIAZ I run castrol dex6 in mine even though it calls for dex3 I think, have 300,000 miles on my original transmission without a single problem, I also do my own filter change and flush every 30,000 miles or so
0-w20 would be too light. None of the areas needing lubrication are pressure-fed so the viscosity of the oil is the only thing that stops it from being squeezed out from where it's needed.
Shell petroleum plant in Houston is the cleanest. Ive worked for many petroleum companies but Shell was good to the people and great maintenance in shut down turn arounds.
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Generally wouldn't use 85w/140 in a gearbox. Used in Final drive conventional differentials. Not used in combined gear/ final drive transmissions either because viscosity is far too high for syncrohmesh operation.
I have been using Shell 15 w 40 rotella in everything from my Toyota 4 cylinder to my lawn mower.I have no complaints.Also use it in three different diesel from Kabota to Detroit diesel.
I don't really care about oil but i want this transparent gearbox!
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So do i... 😂
Ouh yeah
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You wouldn't want to
I always use the Shell bs3774bdnjdbd lubricant . It’s so awesome and keep my temps in accordance with OEM specs
All this video does is reveal whats already been know..... That heavier viscosity lubricants will always run hotter merely because of the higher friction and force necessary for the gear assembly to move through it. That doesnt mean its not more fitting for a specific application either, because if load is high enough and capacity is small enough, higher viscosity will outperform a lower viscosity in maximum running temps. So people.....dont go swapping fluids around in your vehicles until you confirm what fluids will or wont work in your vehicle.
Or simply go with your Owner's Manual. If it states to only use the manufacturer's ATF or MTF lubricant, stick to that. If it states to uses a specific viscosity (75W-90) lubricant, then you can experiment with different brands of the same viscosity lubricant (or take the brand's word for it).
@ROAD SASH - Under high load small capacity applications a higher viscosity will run cooler because lighter viscosity will not withstand the load. Example, a light truck differential with 4 quarts may require 75-140 if towing but a 80,000 lb class 8 line-hauler differential with 5 gallons will require only 80-90.
@ROAD SASH - They do...
@ROAD SASH - You're talking about engine oil which is different than gear fluid. It is critical to stay within the parameters of the engine oil viscosity specs set from factory. Although yes, depending on the type of climate and running conditions of your bike you can run a slightly heavier or lighter viscosity. A Honda dealer should be able to answer that question for you.
@ROAD SASH - That is correct. But motorcycle transmissions are subject to the heat from the cylinder and clutch slippage, not the gears. Therefore you have to run an oil specific to wet motorcycle clutches otherwise you'll have clutch issues.
Is this synthetic oil
Good advert there Shell.
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Shell is the best oil in the world
Nope, it's Motul by far.
If I'm not mistaken viscosity 140 is for gearbox like differential so I think even I've got lower temp using viscosity 90 on differential the viscosity is mismatch then I would be in trouble in latter time
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In 10°c to 39°c what sae viscosity should i use?
Can i use sae 75w90, sae 90 or sae 140
You want to say that the oil with 90 will cool the gearbox better than the other one which marked 140 ? 🤨
Yes
What material and process are used to make this transparent gearbox.
Anyone can help?
Oh wow. I would replace my coolant with this oil😂😂
Moral of the story, Friction causes heat.
Hello Shell. Is there any comparison about mono and multi viscosity oils and some information about pitting in gearing teeth?
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So are you telling everybody to ignore the manufacturer’s spec and put in your lower viscosity oil ? It would make for an interesting conversation with a warranty claim if it were to fail.
They only mention temp and not lubrications or anti wear properties .
Hello, I am going to change the oil in the front and rear differentials of a Porche Cayenne (9PA) V6-3.6 290CV year 2008. I can put this Spirax S6 AXME 75W-90 oil. Thank you
very satisfying video
Is this oil JASO MA certified for a wet clutch motorcycle?
Where can I get one of those see through side covers for my bike..?
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Im still wondering which 1 is better for my VW Scirocco 2.0..hhmmm...
Will less viscosity affect the noise in the gearbox?
yes it can
so which lubricate well from the two different gear oil? which has cooler working temperature?0
SAE75W90 better than SAE85W140 for gearbox
Can't this shell spirax atf oils used on opel zafira A?
So are you telling everybody to ignore the manufacturer’s spec and put in your lower viscosity oil ? It would make for an interesting conversation with a warranty claim if it were to fail
Now take the temperature of the metal gears itself. The conventional oil will show a lower temp on the gears, it acts as a heat sink to pull heat away from the metal.
Can I use spirax sf txm in my Jeeps 247 transfer case?
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Shell corena s3 68 is it ok for motorcycle?
my Shell Spirax S2 G 80w-90 Manual Transmission Oil is red color.. the video is yellow??!
red is mineral based, yellow is full synthetic.
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They put coloring in transmission oil, to distinguish with engine oil.
@Gnob Mio His talking about the color of the bottle, 80w90 s2 is a red bottle but the color of the synthetic gearbox fluid is the same as the video. Just threw it in today.
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nice sir
That's quite some useless test.
Gearboxes are connected to hot engines,all the time....
giving temperatures out of nowhere is dumb.
michaelovitch it's a good test all parts that move generat heat all this shows is how much better the oil can be
For sure.
But look at the title.
It's maybe running cooler on a bench,not in real life conditions...
the engine will heat up both at the same temps anyway.
The only benefit is reduced friction.
leading peoples to think it will run cooler is a mistake,and this isn't a mistake oil manufacturers should make....
Woudn't doing a test WITH an engine being useless as engine temperature would heat up transmission and skew the results to some deegree? This test shows just the impact of oil viscosity with the variation from engine, air flow, etc. removed. All the heat here comes from friction and the point of this video was to show less friction. Also transmission oil is used in differentials which are not always integrated into gearbox, like in front engine, rear wheel drive cars.
That was not the point of the video.
Read the title and description : "Cool Running" and "Thermal imaging of a Perspex gearbox demonstrates the lower operating temperature"
wich is only what's happening on a workbench,not in real life.
Heat transmission to the gearbox from the engine is negligible. The primary components of thermal conductivity in a firing engine are too far removed from the crank shaft, considering the speed of rotation, and the intermediary components between the gearbox and the crank.
What would you recommend e formy 110cc 4strokes bike.
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Try using Cenpeco Gear Lube for much improved operation
Sooo... we use what our manufacturer recommends...
how is this a good comparison when your comparing it to a different viscosity??
Well... It is comparison of different viscosities...
Also different oil types, one is a semi and one is a full synth.. full synth generally run a little cooler for a given weight. It is full apples and oranges trying to sell a product.
Just curious - What does it make run cooler? It means less heat dissipation, so there must be some change in properties that affects this. The first two that I think of is either lower viscosity (less internal friction in a fluid) or better lubricity (less metal-to-metal friction)
Comparing a -140 with a -90 .... That would be almost the same as comparing apples with pears. Otherwise you would no longer need specifications.
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This is an ad designed to fool stupid people. But the question is, does it work?
good to know
WOAHHH 50°C... on the edge of total meltdown!!
My gpu run hotter '>_>
at 2000rpm lightly loaded... to use your GPU analogy that is the equivlent of your card being at 70 degrees on the BIOS screen.
this is running almost idle, not full load running 300bhp through it.
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It looks like a correction tape :I
What do you recommend for transmission 4T40e
CARLOS EMMANUEL RUVALCABA DIAZ I run castrol dex6 in mine even though it calls for dex3 I think, have 300,000 miles on my original transmission without a single problem, I also do my own filter change and flush every 30,000 miles or so
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3,000 rpms is nothing to a transfer case crank that baby 5,500 rpms and lets see that thermal and visual then i will be colored impressed
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Omega is way more better
Mike Johansson Omega 690 is trash. It's much thicker than normal gearbox fluid and it causes problems for my gearboxes.
Why not 0w-20?
you wanna run transmission oil in your engine? LMAO
0-w20 would be too light. None of the areas needing lubrication are pressure-fed so the viscosity of the oil is the only thing that stops it from being squeezed out from where it's needed.
But actually in their other video ruclips.net/video/Sjw7616YI5c/видео.html , they are using 5w-30, I just think 0w20 will be even better.
Can i use w 100 to my 110 mottor engine?
spankeyfish some cars still use it though
OMEGA 690 and 680 are better🙄
I'm not thinking about pancakes why would you think i was?
Use water for the lowest viscosity
Just kidding.
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