My favorite thing about sharing cut content is exactly that: sharing. It was fun to collaborate, and I'm really excited for the scale of the audience this will reach. The secret I enjoyed discovering the most was, honestly, the one about Halflight's pants. What your favorite Souls-related secret, featured in this video or otherwise?
It's really quite fun seeing all the ideas that From Soft either attempted, or were never able to incorporate into their games really come wholly into play in Elden Ring in mostly meaningful ways.
"Did they cut their head, made it invisible? well neither" A i see, the age of art of "Head Shrinkening" hasnt died. Havent seen it since my time as a Demoknight
Reminds me of that scene in the end of Halo CE, where Chief takes off his helmet, only to reveal another helmet just out of view (And the same thing happens around the start of Halo 2, except he's putting his second helmet back on, lol)
Hey Vaati. When are you making that Lady Maria Prepare to Cry episode? It's a great story, and it'd be nice to see it sometime this year! haha. Thanks man.
Might as well add incest to the list of things that Gwyn shares with Zeus. He already wields lightning, usurped the world's original rulers (Titans for Zeus, Dragons for Gwyn), and stopped the natural progression of ages (Zeus imprisoned Typhon who was to bring about a new pantheon, Gwyn committed the first sin).
@@Simon200o Yes that is the point but the damage you deal and the fact that parrying stops the boss from doing some of his more dangerous combos makes the fight much easier than if you dont go for parries. Pontiff and Gwyn can both be almost cheesed by parrying while bosses that cant be parried like SoC or NK are much more challenging.
3:43 Notice that Gundyr's second phase is a pus of man, an enemy that is very prominent in the Consumed King's Garden. Before, Gundyr's second phase seemed a little out of place to me, but now I realize that it may be that way because he was intended for another area... Or perhaps, Tutorial Gundyr was supposed to be the "Snake Soul" boss for the Untended Graves, who knows?
My theory is that since dark souls 3 was “supposed” to be the end of the trilogy. It would make sense on why they had originally made the game look more apocalyptic, and the snake soul/serpent was the creation of the end of the world, as the fire wasn't linked this time. It would've been an amazing endgame boss as the whole world is crumbling and collapsing
@@ContainIsolation Also the "root" theme was suposed to be the main background. Just see how early game until the village its everywhere. Also Pontiff is entagled with roots and he was suposed to be the last boss. In the end I think this game was like DkS 2, intended to have a very diferent progression (perhaps even more!). Even the dancer was initially a NPC (she shows in a screenshot).
@@MrBcardinal35 it hurts that ds3 coming out right after old Hunters made alot of the bigger people in the community practically abandon bloodborne too soon.
@@Jaden-Ring yeah it was pretty sad. I came to the channel in 2018 and discovered the bloodborne content. Can say I was disappointed when he said the "according to Twitter not so many of you have bloodborne, so I'm moving over to dark souls 3"
@@hossdelgado626 as Vaati said, if they used Yhorm as the tutorial boss, the stormruler would have probably been used to kill another giant or the disgusting puss tree
@@twanlange2827 i think it would have served like the tower knight. Hit his ankies to knock him over, avoid-survive-attack crital points, then once you bested optional boss Wolnir; future playthroughs would be simple to fell Yhorm as a reward. That would make following my boy Siegward a lot more meaningful too
Upon revisiting this topic, I wonder if there was an animation for Yhorm to fall off the open cliff. Giving players another way to ease their suffering
1:04 Everyone always says this is a cut stealth mechanic, whereas I think this would have allowed the player to crawl into crevices where they couldn't fit in on their feet, it would have made exploration more cloak-and-dagger in some spots but I also see why it was ultimately forfeited.
*Vaati shows up on Matt's channel* Matt's fans: "Holy shit! It's Vaati!" *Matt shows up on Vaati's channel* Vaati's fans: "Yeah, where's that Lady Maria video?!"
I think everyone knows this but Pontiff in addition to being the Last Boss of Ds3 also have a different ost, this music was ended up being the Menu theme for Dark Souls 3
The Pontiff fight was really a waste , like we've been hearing about him and he had a huge role in world of ds3 just find him and fight him like an ordinary boss with not even a cutscene. He should've been the final boss.
I'm pretty sure the "great wood" in the Storm rule clue is a reference to petrified giants, which turn into giant trees. Makes more sense than Curserotted to be honest, as DS3 is the second game in the series to have it established that dead giants become greatwoods.
@@BioTheHuman DS2 is the only game that has giants, outside of Yhorm and the archer in DS3, and Gough in DS1. That said, DS2 is the game that established Giant lore, and the petrified giant archtrees still exist in DS3. In short, your statement is just... Incorrect. The only game you could argue they don't is Dark Souls 1, and that's purely based on a lack of information, rather than being correct or incorrect.
@@dokuujin1851 In DS1 there are slave giants in Sen's fortress 🤨 Moreover, Anor londians are Giants descendants. If every Giant would turn into a archtree, wouldn't they put a hint in the first game? In fact, in DS3 only DS2 giants are referred to transform into trees 🤷♂️ My theory is that DS1 Giants are Dragon deacendats and DS2 Giants are archtrees descendants, but yes, this it's only my speculation. Still, there is no confirmation that DS1 giants turns into trees 😅
@@BioTheHuman Ah, yeah, you're right tbf, I did forget about Sen's. Though as you said with your dragon/tree theory, they are definitely a different type of giant. The archtree giants are taller and thinner - like Yhorm, where as most of the giants in DS1 (Including Gough) and the archers in 3 are the shorter stockier kind. Can't say I know for sure either way, as 95% of DS lore is debatable, but either way the "great wood" thing is still a clear nod to archtree giants, which Yhorm looks just like. Ultimately my point is "Only a storm can fell a greatwood" is meant as a very obvious clue that Stormruler utterly wrecks Yhorm. In otherwords "Only Stormruler and fell Yhorm." you could ofc argue that I'm wrong about Yhorm even being that type of giant because when he dies he just disappears, but the thing is - that's the case with every giant. We don't actually know WHAT causes them to turn into archtrees. It could be special death conditions, because every Archtree giant that ever dies on screen just turns to dust like any other death, including the Giant Lord.
@@dokuujin1851 I think that Yhorm is a DS1 giant becuase he actually have eyes, I think that's quite a big proof 😅 About the stormruler. We should check japenes descriptio, maybe they messes it 🤷♂️ And about Greatwood of undead settlement, I don't know if it is truly connected to giants. It seems to me just an archtrees which absorbed too much curses, simply as that 😅
When you think about it, Bloodborne had a giant snake boss that was cut, Dark Souls 3 had a giant snake that was cut, and now Sekiro finally included a giant snake!
dark souls lore: The powerful Lord Souls were taken from the First Flame, used to defeat the dragons, and then to establish kingdoms. dark souls secrets: *had pants, pants gone.*
he got that wrong. her head is modeled underneath that cloth. but he removed it with the cloth as they are both one object. her face is that of a hollow and has very muddy and low res textures.
So many people still playing Dark Souls 3. I get summoned so often that at times I take off my covenant item just so I can get stuff done lol. DS3 and Bloodborne are both still very active games. Shout out to everyone in the community.
Well DS3 is still the most recent dark souls game and the little cult following that we are we will keep playing until a new dark souls is released eventually. Even if that means waiting for years
I think the Ledo “stand” was intended to be used during the Spear of the Church boss fight. It would make sense, as the Judicators work for the Church and by aligning with them, you would in turn gain access to Ledo when you become Halflight. It would have likely functioned similarly to the Ritual Spear Fragment and Divine Spear Fragment, it would’ve been a costless consumable item that has a short cool down between uses, but summons a phantom of Ledo instead to defend you... even though you would’ve likely killed him already in that tower... time, space, and alliances are convoluted indeed. Another possibility is that the Ledo stand would have likely passively summon himself if your health drops to a certain threshold, that way you wouldn’t have to summon Ledo on your own in order to save yourself from the host and their gank
I hope Elden Ring includes a "Vanity Slot". A place where cosmetic equipment are equipped, so that they don't take up stat increasing ring slots. For example: Silver Knight's Pendant Effect: Replaces the rolling animation of dodging with a sidestepping animation. No change in I-frames or speed, it is simply a cosmetic change.
Something that I haven't seen mentioned: Abaddon is also a famous Castlevania boss that looks just like the DS3 locusts, and we all know how Fromsoft loves Castlevania
yeah Sekiro was definitely a testing ground for future fromsoft titles seeing now how much they're taking from it for Elden ring. i think Miyazaki even said it was an experiment. still they managed to make an "experiment" be my favorite game haha.
I think Stormruler was intended for The Nameless King, the storm asthetic of the bossfight matches the sword effects. And maybe you'd knock The Nameless King off his dragon using the WA starting phase 2.
Fan: "Hey, where's the Lady Maria Prepare to cry? That video would be nice to... " Vaati: "Did you know Halflight wears pants!? My disappointment is immesurable, and my immersion is ruined."
Woolie is doing collaborations with Super Eyepatch Wolf And now Matt making a cameo at the beginning of a Vaati video. It’s been almost two years and yet the phantom pain of the Best Friends is with me still.
Zaibatsu Refugees stand up It's super cool to see everyone doing more branched out stuff (Liam's in school last I heard so that's pretty awesome for him) but I can't help miss the "friends on the couch" LP style feel.
The layers of the Sea of Corruption in Nausicaa also inspired the Blighttown to Ash Lake transition in Dark Souls. The lake especially looks like the "Vaults" bottom layer.
And years later that animation (10:10) was finally put to use for Rellana. It's crazy how none of these things have been scraped and are still in FromSoft's engine all these years later.
Vaati, if I wasn’t broke and my country’s economy wasn’t a joke, I would have bought all of your merch the day you released it. (Brazil in case you’re wondering)
I love the idea the the soul of cinder is every character you’ve played through the previous games all in one. Something from every play type. It’s a cool boss and great lore
It's all of that, as well as gwyn, he became a husk of himself by dark souls 1, his power was used in the soul of cinder, the crazy ass lightning spells. Most definitely Gwyn
The fact that this game is nearly 5 years old and there are still aspects of the lore that we’re just now discovering is just beautiful. And to think I’ve heard people say that DS3 lacks in lore. Ridiculous. Excellent video. I can and HAVE binged your videos for hours and hours.
The first sin was gwyn telling filianore that he would come back for her, instead we went for her and she was terrified after seeing that face of an unkindled one staring at her Do not miss lead general thoughts vaati Love you man
Vaati thank you so much for helping me fall in love with everything that is dark souls. You're voice is so nice to listen to. You're videos have shown me a deep world of mystery and depth. These games are so much more then just the "hard" game to die a bunch in. You put in the same effort telling these tales that you can tell FromSoftware put into these games. The entire soulsborne series is one of the most masterfully creative pieces of true human art.
Vaati's call out about Sekiro being a test bed for Elden Ring features looks 1000% accurate now, especially because it doesn't look like they have any more follow on support for Sekiro
watching this now after the elden ring network test, it’s really interesting to see how a lot of these cut concepts and content are actually making their way into elden ring
Elden* Ring*. Please comment with Complete submition and notable aderation for our lord and savior Miyazaki for these kinds of "goofz" are seen, felt, and interfaced with , yes..As in after sin is committed depending on sacrelidge'ol sever'ty Myazaki will indeed become your specific disgusting sin left in time. Our shepherd of shepherds does this to even understand the sin intamately so a absolutely just punishment can be manifest to all his children. Ancient fromfrom braile text indicate that in this era of man we live in punishment will spawn as minutes,hours...Lightyears, gigallenias to be added to the wait of Elden Rings release, thank you and may Miyazaki b w\ you
I wonder if the Idea for the Snake soul was derived from applying the logic of what happened to Manus' corpse in DS1 to dark serpent Kaathe. We know there was the idea he is dead from Yuria's scapped dialouge. Maybe he learned how Manus became something more after he died and tried to replicate that.
its also possible this would have linked back to dark souls 2, since from there we know after Manuses death his soul produced several "daughters" and perhaps Kathes would do the same after his death, these daughters went on to seduce and corrupt the leaders of kingdoms and ultimately bringing them to ruin, exactly as Friede did to the painted world, and (depending on how you interpret usurping the fire) exactly what Yuria is trying to do to you perhaps the snake soul would have been one of the sisters(probably Liliane since she doesent really exist in the current version) revealing her true form to fight you like Nashandra does, also of note is that Magnus had four daughters, 3 malicious while the fourth was redeemed threw the companionship of the very person she plotted against, Karlas ashes imply she either is one of manuses daughters or at least a similar daughter of the abyss, and is implied to be the person Alva was seeking, Alva is similarly noted to have found comfort and purpose in someone who once plotted against him
Yeah, having a never before mentioned character suddenly be one of the most important lore-wise would be a dick move. Velka has always been my headcanon.
Warning about Displate from personal experience, my poster has two small (~0.5 mm diameter) "holes" where I think the print got scratched off, but that was how it arrived. It's not noticeable from more than about 2 meters away, though.
Yeah this has been speculated before, I think Vaati may have said as much in one of his videos even. It also tracks given that we killed the true Smough in Dark Souls 1, but the Ornstein was just an illusion, as we find the real Ornstein dead near Nameless King. It would also explain how Aldrich knew where to find Gwyndolin who was otherwise hidden and why that was the first god he went after- Gwyndolin kept Smough trapped in Anor Londo for millennia guarding illusions. He likely grew resentful
In my opinion Sullyvan being a mid game boss is way better that him being the last boss. When you think about it, Sullyvan is the closest the Ds series has of a main antagonist, he is the responsible of almost every bad thing that has happen,, yet he is only the boss that marks the midle of the game, the great part of his story is told AFTER you kill him and i love that, it shows perfectly DS3 message of all thing coming to an end, does not matter how important, big or powerfull you are, eventually you are goin to die. This would have been completly lost if he was the last opponent you fight, because the title of being the last boss of a saga as well know as DS is a important one, that fits perfectly to a entity born of the ashes of the past, including Gwin. btw, sorry for my broken english
hum, i kind of disagree. Sullivan is a very important character and it hurts that he is forgotten after the middle od the game. Perhaps the idea of having an antagonist actually goes against the feel of the series but at the same time sullivan as a character deserved a better told and understood story
Not that Vaati will ever see this, but i think it would be cool to have more videos detailing the specifics of the unseen lands. We’ve already seen a video on Carthus, but i think Carim, Catarina, and Courland (why so many Cs Miyazaki?) are just as cool and it would be a nice tool to have at our disposal if we ever need to reference lire on a specific area that we never get to see.
It's really cool to go back to this video after thoroughly enjoying elden ring, and then seeing content that was repurposed and thinking, "THATS IT, THATS MY BOY"
Can't imagine how badass Sulyvahn could have been if he was the final boss. I can totally see him summoning summoning 4 different stands with different weapons and movesets, using ice magic and many other things.
Some additional fun lore for Executioner Smough: in New Guinea, a tribe of pygmy’s that practiced cannibalism succumbed to a disease called “kuru.” The most noticeable symptom of kuru was fits of manic laughter. A trait we also see in the Executioner.
I love your content, you're clearly very proficient in what you do. I have been a fan since I was back in college. I just wanted to give you a heads up, the backflip is actually called a back handspring. I know a lot of my cheerleading friends and athletes that I have coached love this game and your content, and we would definitely geek out if you were to nail the name of the move. So no complaints, you just seem the type to appreciate being as specific as possible.
Vaati, You're a big part of the reason that Dark Souls 3 is my favorite game I have played thus far. You showed me that the "lore" in a video game is so much more than just "adding something interesting". When I played Dark Souls 3 for the first time, I quit as soon as I entered Wall of Lothric just because it seemed too hard. The sole reason I picked it up again is because I watched one of your videos and you introduced me to the vast world that FromSoft puts in their big titles. I just want to say thank you for making me realize the beauty in the stories that some developers tell the player.
My favorite thing about sharing cut content is exactly that: sharing. It was fun to collaborate, and I'm really excited for the scale of the audience this will reach. The secret I enjoyed discovering the most was, honestly, the one about Halflight's pants. What your favorite Souls-related secret, featured in this video or otherwise?
Zullie! I love your work, especially with Bloodborne. I have played the dungeons you found. Thanks a lot!
elden ring... where is it... is that... the dark soul??
Thanks Zullie!
how did the panthon work in demon souls ?
Zullie the Comrade
I love that the lady Maria video is basically the VaatiVidya version of "Where is the miracle build old man?"
Oh, that will be 1 million patreon bucks, please.
It's his version of Dave control with the three man army series. Lol. 🤣
Deepest lore
Petscop part 2?
@Squid not as pvp viable as sorc
Vaati: halflight doesn't wear pants but it's not that interesting
Us, always, nodding: 👀 interesting interesting
To be honest if vaati say hi
we would be oh interesting interesting
If she wore pants Miyazaki wouldn't be able to see the F E E T
@@theangrywig3905 I'm like 99.2% percent sure Halflight js is a dude
@@Jormyyy doesn't matter to Miyazaki.
@@theangrywig3905 good point
Seeing some cut mechanics and such actually make it back into Elden Ring is an absolute treat
It's really quite fun seeing all the ideas that From Soft either attempted, or were never able to incorporate into their games really come wholly into play in Elden Ring in mostly meaningful ways.
"Did they cut their head, made it invisible? well neither"
A i see, the age of art of "Head Shrinkening" hasnt died. Havent seen it since my time as a Demoknight
Reminds me of that scene in the end of Halo CE, where Chief takes off his helmet, only to reveal another helmet just out of view
(And the same thing happens around the start of Halo 2, except he's putting his second helmet back on, lol)
That tiny head made me giggle
Her mother had Zika virus
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Hey Vaati. When are you making that Lady Maria Prepare to Cry episode? It's a great story, and it'd be nice to see it sometime this year! haha. Thanks man.
ah, another hollow...
@@sussyratplayermuchamong3659 lore starved beast*
I'd be hollow first before he releases that one
We're unironically more likely to see Elden Ring before the Lady Maria Prepare To Cry
We're unironically more likely to see Elden Ring before the Lady Maria Prepare To Cry
>Gwyn's daughter is referenced as "wife"
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Creased 😂
Holy shit that made me laugh to hard lol
Might as well add incest to the list of things that Gwyn shares with Zeus.
He already wields lightning, usurped the world's original rulers (Titans for Zeus, Dragons for Gwyn), and stopped the natural progression of ages (Zeus imprisoned Typhon who was to bring about a new pantheon, Gwyn committed the first sin).
"Sulyvahn was suppose to be the final boss"
That explains his insane moveset. Always wondered why he is the guy that always kicks my ass the hardest
and ability to parry him which makes the fight way to easy once you practice it a little also would be a nice callback to Gwyn
@@konieczny3576 good point!
Sulyvahn as a character wasn't supposed to be the final boss they just ended up reusing the final bosses model and moveset for a new character
@@konieczny3576 this is the point, isn't it? When you practice a boss fight it becomes easier.
@@Simon200o Yes that is the point but the damage you deal and the fact that parrying stops the boss from doing some of his more dangerous combos makes the fight much easier than if you dont go for parries. Pontiff and Gwyn can both be almost cheesed by parrying while bosses that cant be parried like SoC or NK are much more challenging.
I love how the devs just decided to shrink Anri's head instead of molding a head or anything
this was a vaati's joke, theyre is a hollow head on the corpse of Anri in game, not a tiny head!!!
@@karimmime1050 oooh I had no idea! Thanks!
3:43 Notice that Gundyr's second phase is a pus of man, an enemy that is very prominent in the Consumed King's Garden. Before, Gundyr's second phase seemed a little out of place to me, but now I realize that it may be that way because he was intended for another area... Or perhaps, Tutorial Gundyr was supposed to be the "Snake Soul" boss for the Untended Graves, who knows?
maybe gundyr and snakesoul became phases 1 and 2 of the same boss
Perhaps the Snake Soul was like, a theoretical future where the Pus had fully overtaken Gundyr's body and grown into its own beast?
My theory is that since dark souls 3 was “supposed” to be the end of the trilogy. It would make sense on why they had originally made the game look more apocalyptic, and the snake soul/serpent was the creation of the end of the world, as the fire wasn't linked this time.
It would've been an amazing endgame boss as the whole world is crumbling and collapsing
@@ContainIsolation Also the "root" theme was suposed to be the main background. Just see how early game until the village its everywhere. Also Pontiff is entagled with roots and he was suposed to be the last boss.
In the end I think this game was like DkS 2, intended to have a very diferent progression (perhaps even more!). Even the dancer was initially a NPC (she shows in a screenshot).
I had a feeling the Soul of Cinder backflip was an atavism, I'm surprised he doesn't also spend the whole match trying to strafe backstab you.
Im auprised that he didnt tried to blackflame spam
@@DronesOverTheMoon It's a miracle he doesn't summon his three Cinder friends to gank you to death, haha!
Would have made more sense for it to wield a Great Scythe in that case. Throw in a Darkmoon Blade buff while you're at it.
My soul of cinder fight consisted of him parry spamming me and doing the 'well, what is it' gesture whenever I died.
My Lord of Cider fight he was R1 spamming a chaos +5 Zeiwhander with giant armor on under that Dad mask.
Vaati 2045: while we wait for an Elden Ring gameplay trailer, here is yet ANOTHER 10 SECRETS you didn't see in Dark Souls Ashes of Ariandel
*Ringed City
Lady Maria Prepare to Cry is still not out by then
@@MrBcardinal35 it hurts that ds3 coming out right after old Hunters made alot of the bigger people in the community practically abandon bloodborne too soon.
Elden ring is a hoax
@@Jaden-Ring yeah it was pretty sad. I came to the channel in 2018 and discovered the bloodborne content. Can say I was disappointed when he said the "according to Twitter not so many of you have bloodborne, so I'm moving over to dark souls 3"
Yhorm being in the boss arena with the giant open coffin makes so much sense since it also perfectly fits the trailer for the game!
Would also explain the easy storm ruler mechanic
@@hossdelgado626 as Vaati said, if they used Yhorm as the tutorial boss, the stormruler would have probably been used to kill another giant or the disgusting puss tree
@@twanlange2827 ok.
@@twanlange2827 i think it would have served like the tower knight. Hit his ankies to knock him over, avoid-survive-attack crital points, then once you bested optional boss Wolnir; future playthroughs would be simple to fell Yhorm as a reward. That would make following my boy Siegward a lot more meaningful too
Upon revisiting this topic, I wonder if there was an animation for Yhorm to fall off the open cliff. Giving players another way to ease their suffering
1:04 Everyone always says this is a cut stealth mechanic, whereas I think this would have allowed the player to crawl into crevices where they couldn't fit in on their feet, it would have made exploration more cloak-and-dagger in some spots but I also see why it was ultimately forfeited.
Could have also just been something they were testing for Sekiro during development and wasn't actually going to go in the game.
11:38 Now that Elden Ring gameplay is out, this has a completely different feel
Only one month left!
My dude can see the future
And the crouch
now that Elden Ring is out I can cpnfidently say that Elden Ring summons are just a bandage for how broken some bosses are
*Vaati shows up on Matt's channel*
Matt's fans: "Holy shit! It's Vaati!"
*Matt shows up on Vaati's channel*
Vaati's fans: "Yeah, where's that Lady Maria video?!"
what video does Vaati show up?
@@Jamesgates355 Vaati did the intro for the Demon's Souls episode of What Happened.
Lol yeah, so true! Got this to 280!
Yea its kinda weird to see these fanbases overlapping like at all. Im all for it though, love matt and vati
I think everyone knows this but Pontiff in addition to being the Last Boss of Ds3 also have a different ost, this music was ended up being the Menu theme for Dark Souls 3
I didn't know this and I thank you so much. I thought it was kinda odd that the main menu music was so intense
Dang Fromsoft really did Pontiff dirty.
@@sakuriik2983 i liked ds1 menu theme so much. Ds3 is good but so intense. I can chill on ds1 menu all day lool
The Pontiff fight was really a waste , like we've been hearing about him and he had a huge role in world of ds3 just find him and fight him like an ordinary boss with not even a cutscene. He should've been the final boss.
isn't it meant to be an edited version of Sir Alonne theme, Idk but I see that they somehow have a similar rhythm.
I've an idea vaati, The elden ring subreddit Prepare to cry
H O L L O W
DONT LET ME GO
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Do you even believe in Elden Ring? Pfft, what's next? Sekiro DLC? Santa?
DONT TELL ME YOU CANT SEE IT.
11:40 I love how Zullie basically predicted the summoning ashes from Elden Ring with this mod.
0/10 no time stop GODDAMNIT WOOLIE
I'm pretty sure the "great wood" in the Storm rule clue is a reference to petrified giants, which turn into giant trees. Makes more sense than Curserotted to be honest, as DS3 is the second game in the series to have it established that dead giants become greatwoods.
Actually only ds2 giants become archtrees 🤷♂️
@@BioTheHuman DS2 is the only game that has giants, outside of Yhorm and the archer in DS3, and Gough in DS1.
That said, DS2 is the game that established Giant lore, and the petrified giant archtrees still exist in DS3.
In short, your statement is just... Incorrect.
The only game you could argue they don't is Dark Souls 1, and that's purely based on a lack of information, rather than being correct or incorrect.
@@dokuujin1851 In DS1 there are slave giants in Sen's fortress 🤨
Moreover, Anor londians are Giants descendants. If every Giant would turn into a archtree, wouldn't they put a hint in the first game? In fact, in DS3 only DS2 giants are referred to transform into trees 🤷♂️
My theory is that DS1 Giants are Dragon deacendats and DS2 Giants are archtrees descendants, but yes, this it's only my speculation.
Still, there is no confirmation that DS1 giants turns into trees 😅
@@BioTheHuman Ah, yeah, you're right tbf, I did forget about Sen's. Though as you said with your dragon/tree theory, they are definitely a different type of giant. The archtree giants are taller and thinner - like Yhorm, where as most of the giants in DS1 (Including Gough) and the archers in 3 are the shorter stockier kind.
Can't say I know for sure either way, as 95% of DS lore is debatable, but either way the "great wood" thing is still a clear nod to archtree giants, which Yhorm looks just like.
Ultimately my point is "Only a storm can fell a greatwood" is meant as a very obvious clue that Stormruler utterly wrecks Yhorm. In otherwords "Only Stormruler and fell Yhorm."
you could ofc argue that I'm wrong about Yhorm even being that type of giant because when he dies he just disappears, but the thing is - that's the case with every giant. We don't actually know WHAT causes them to turn into archtrees. It could be special death conditions, because every Archtree giant that ever dies on screen just turns to dust like any other death, including the Giant Lord.
@@dokuujin1851 I think that Yhorm is a DS1 giant becuase he actually have eyes, I think that's quite a big proof 😅
About the stormruler. We should check japenes descriptio, maybe they messes it 🤷♂️
And about Greatwood of undead settlement, I don't know if it is truly connected to giants. It seems to me just an archtrees which absorbed too much curses, simply as that 😅
Really does suck that the snake boss from that early screenshot wasn’t in the game because that shit looks soooo cool.
I thought for sure that was going to be Frampt as the final boss of the series, I was pretty bummed when it never showed up :(
i was thinking maybe it ended up being the sandworm thing in smouldering lake
Yeah the animations were probably reporpoused for the sandworm
Could have eventually been remade into the giant snake from Sekiro. DS has never done impossibly large bosses well.
When you think about it, Bloodborne had a giant snake boss that was cut, Dark Souls 3 had a giant snake that was cut, and now Sekiro finally included a giant snake!
dark souls lore: The powerful Lord Souls were taken from the First Flame, used to defeat the dragons, and then to establish kingdoms.
dark souls secrets: *had pants, pants gone.*
@Sightless_Seeker eat gone wrong pant
Dark Souls lore: They call him Big Hat Logan because he wears a big hat
@@ehaydon3491
To be fair, that was a big hat
@@Goreofadream that explains why his summoning was delayed!
Haaa its a silent hill reference! There was a pants here, it's gone now.
"some really subtle references to dark souls"
_Giant dark sign in the background_
Of course was Sullyvahn supposed to be the games endboss, you can PARRY him...
People: whens lady maria
Vaati: did you know that halflight is wearing pants
Finally i can know why they call him Big Hat Logan!
tell us.......TELL US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm sorry friend, but you're gonna have to keep waiting on that one.
Listen kid... I don't have much time. The reason Big Hat Logan is called Big hat is
It's because "Hat" is the Vinheimic word for "dick".
Michael Sear nice
Mom: Anri Tinyhead isn't real, she can't hurt you...
Anri Tinyhead: 12:38
he got that wrong. her head is modeled underneath that cloth. but he removed it with the cloth as they are both one object. her face is that of a hollow and has very muddy and low res textures.
@The Whitest Male No I think it's a goomba from the Mario Bros. movie.
So many people still playing Dark Souls 3. I get summoned so often that at times I take off my covenant item just so I can get stuff done lol. DS3 and Bloodborne are both still very active games. Shout out to everyone in the community.
Well DS3 is still the most recent dark souls game and the little cult following that we are we will keep playing until a new dark souls is released eventually. Even if that means waiting for years
If you want to get stuff done why do you even put your summon sign down?
Yes, I just re picked it up a week ago. Doing a couple of new builds and then going for plat
@@lerchomat it's not the summon sign. It's the covenant item that automatically summons you.
@@nucklehead718 yeah i forgot about them im sorry
I think the Ledo “stand” was intended to be used during the Spear of the Church boss fight. It would make sense, as the Judicators work for the Church and by aligning with them, you would in turn gain access to Ledo when you become Halflight.
It would have likely functioned similarly to the Ritual Spear Fragment and Divine Spear Fragment, it would’ve been a costless consumable item that has a short cool down between uses, but summons a phantom of Ledo instead to defend you... even though you would’ve likely killed him already in that tower... time, space, and alliances are convoluted indeed.
Another possibility is that the Ledo stand would have likely passively summon himself if your health drops to a certain threshold, that way you wouldn’t have to summon Ledo on your own in order to save yourself from the host and their gank
holy shit you nailed the stealth and jumping being in elden ring
And the ledo summon turns into the summon system in elden ring lol
Everyone, please understand!
Zullie’s power is time! It’s the ability to stop-
Jiji!
ZA WARUDOOOO
Alexa, play last train home
*Sheds manly tears*
Different scene but: SHINE! MAX2DS!
imagine Friede's father saying this instead of the monologue lmao
Saw this video and was like:“oh a recommended vati Video from years ago,let me just watch it again“ *uploaded 20 mins ago lmao
Josh I thought the same too.
Same lol
I hope Elden Ring includes a "Vanity Slot".
A place where cosmetic equipment are equipped, so that they don't take up stat increasing ring slots.
For example:
Silver Knight's Pendant
Effect:
Replaces the rolling animation of dodging with a sidestepping animation.
No change in I-frames or speed, it is simply a cosmetic change.
Cinders mod: hello there!
Of course Pontiff Sulyvahn was meant to be the final boss, he's the only boss that's a stand user.
Shark Attack Is that a Jo
*STANDO POWA*
What about the crystal sage?
@@keishpie1 That's not a stand that's some Naruto ninja shit
So basically....
It's like Star Platinum?
Something that I haven't seen mentioned: Abaddon is also a famous Castlevania boss that looks just like the DS3 locusts, and we all know how Fromsoft loves Castlevania
The Ashen Lake always reminded me of that scene in Nausicaa where you see all the tree trunks far underground
Definitely inspired by nausicaä
Yes so true
I actually watched it because Vaati mentioned Nausicaa it in the past when talking about world design!
'God's Grave' is the most metal thing I've ever heard.
I'm feeling Doom vibes here
@@andreamichelezucchi8600 funeral doom, maybe?
That pontiff animation somehow makes him even more anime than he already was
The fact that Vaati's in on the "Vaati's bad at finishing his series" joke is fantastic.
Crazy that he was right about the jumping and sneaking in Elden Ring.
thought the same yeah :D
And the Knight Ledo summon seems like a precursor to the new summoning system.
yeah Sekiro was definitely a testing ground for future fromsoft titles seeing now how much they're taking from it for Elden ring. i think Miyazaki even said it was an experiment. still they managed to make an "experiment" be my favorite game haha.
oh man that Old King Doran reference went way over my head all this time! so cool, i love demons souls
If you love it so much why don't you marry it then?
So you say you love Demon's Souls... *Name every demon*
... They can both be parried. Wonder if that's another reference to him...
@@gloomylobster111 Bro, you didn't have to murder him like that.
But what about the catacombs crab? We STILL don't know what it means!
it means time for crab
Limit will spend the rest of his life trying to figure it out
@@dryboneskirby As will I.
'-'
Dungeonous Crab?
I think Stormruler was intended for The Nameless King, the storm asthetic of the bossfight matches the sword effects. And maybe you'd knock The Nameless King off his dragon using the WA starting phase 2.
@Scr8 Up Factz perhaps the havel follower would have had it in order to kill dragons and it would help with the fight first phase or something.
@Scr8 Up Factz havel's armor set is on the rempart of farron keep, after killing him in dragon peek you can find his set near the rock's demon
Seems like Sekiro really was Elden Rings testing ground for the jumping and stealth mechanics :O
Its fun looking back at this video and seeing the ground work for things that appear in elden ring. Take the Leto summon item for example.
Fan: "Hey, where's the Lady Maria Prepare to cry? That video would be nice to... "
Vaati: "Did you know Halflight wears pants!? My disappointment is immesurable, and my immersion is ruined."
@@user-ik3xt1bx2n plot twist
Incredibly dissatisfied with this Vaati... Old Man already told me about Anri's head... You'll be hearing from my lawyers
Last time I was this early Gundyr was still a champion
The last time I was this early Nameless King still had a name.
Right. Elden ring news needed badly im on life support here
@@justinfernandez3894 Miyazaki is going to go to your hospital and take your life support himself
coming back to this video after the elden ring gameplay trailer... how much did they tell you, vaati
I fucking love this series. The future souls painting is amazing.
I'm seething with rage at how Nito's greatsword dance miracle was st least partially present in the game, yet remains unimplemented.
Woolie is doing collaborations with Super Eyepatch Wolf
And now Matt making a cameo at the beginning of a Vaati video.
It’s been almost two years and yet the phantom pain of the Best Friends is with me still.
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
Zaibatsu Refugees stand up
It's super cool to see everyone doing more branched out stuff (Liam's in school last I heard so that's pretty awesome for him) but I can't help miss the "friends on the couch" LP style feel.
The more cut content in DS3 i learn about the more i feel like we really got something that did not live up to its' potential.
Just like ds2
Just like DS1 as well
@@glctcthnkr8059 Good point. I tend to repress lost izalith
Jormy Gormy same. I also like to forget about tomb of the giants (even if it was a cool idea)
@@glctcthnkr8059 I'll take tomb of the giants or new londo over izalith tbh.
Duke's archives is also way better than all three of course.
The layers of the Sea of Corruption in Nausicaa also inspired the Blighttown to Ash Lake transition in Dark Souls. The lake especially looks like the "Vaults" bottom layer.
And years later that animation (10:10) was finally put to use for Rellana. It's crazy how none of these things have been scraped and are still in FromSoft's engine all these years later.
"Katana wielding Dex Flip Builds" damn I feel so called out right now. 👀
It's because our builds were the best for linking the fire.
@@chaisemaurice8150 replace "linking the fire" with "lagstabbing in pvp"
@@thewildcard600 wouldn't know, I play on offline mode. But I'm my brief foreray into online mode, I'd say that lagstabbing is universal.
3:25
Gundyr: So as I pray, unlimited blade works!
Vaati, if I wasn’t broke and my country’s economy wasn’t a joke, I would have bought all of your merch the day you released it.
(Brazil in case you’re wondering)
Pedro Lacerda are you iranian,because our country’s economy is also a joke.
The idea of basing an individuals worth by the segment or context they are in is something I wish was changed
cheboludo-land?
I’m Iranian btw for more context
A fellow American!
I love the idea the the soul of cinder is every character you’ve played through the previous games all in one. Something from every play type. It’s a cool boss and great lore
It's all of that, as well as gwyn, he became a husk of himself by dark souls 1, his power was used in the soul of cinder, the crazy ass lightning spells. Most definitely Gwyn
@@sabastjanadams1829 yeah fuck those lightning spells 😂
The fact that this game is nearly 5 years old and there are still aspects of the lore that we’re just now discovering is just beautiful. And to think I’ve heard people say that DS3 lacks in lore. Ridiculous. Excellent video. I can and HAVE binged your videos for hours and hours.
Except this is all cut content. Can't really be considered lore if it's not actually part of the game.
cannasaurus-rex I think it can
I'll never be able to take the wedding scene seriously for the rest of my life
The first sin was gwyn telling filianore that he would come back for her, instead we went for her and she was terrified after seeing that face of an unkindled one staring at her
Do not miss lead general thoughts vaati
Love you man
Okay so coming back to this after Elden Ring and seeing how much stealth you can get away with while crouched/muted/invisible is kinda crazy.
Vaati thank you so much for helping me fall in love with everything that is dark souls. You're voice is so nice to listen to. You're videos have shown me a deep world of mystery and depth. These games are so much more then just the "hard" game to die a bunch in. You put in the same effort telling these tales that you can tell FromSoftware put into these games. The entire soulsborne series is one of the most masterfully creative pieces of true human art.
Vaati's call out about Sekiro being a test bed for Elden Ring features looks 1000% accurate now, especially because it doesn't look like they have any more follow on support for Sekiro
I've literally just been watching loads of lore videos for the first time in ages, what a coincidence!
Sameeee
Gwyn's wife is obviously Solaire, how can you not know that?
Well there goes my dreams of romancing Solaire
@@unfunny2386 If only you were as grossly incandescent as Gwyn.
@@stanxd0 Well, guess it's time to try and peg Gwyndolin's bussy.
watching this now after the elden ring network test, it’s really interesting to see how a lot of these cut concepts and content are actually making their way into elden ring
And so he never did release that lady Maria prepare to cry video...
I've been waiting for Maria's video for so long.
Vaati makes a joke about Maria's video.
I'm not mad, just sad :'(
"I will actually have this video put before the end of the year" suuurreee Vaati right after elderring and half-life 3 come out
Elden* Ring*. Please comment with Complete submition and notable aderation for our lord and savior Miyazaki for these kinds of "goofz" are seen, felt, and interfaced with , yes..As in after sin is committed depending on sacrelidge'ol sever'ty Myazaki will indeed become your specific disgusting sin left in time. Our shepherd of shepherds does this to even understand the sin intamately so a absolutely just punishment can be manifest to all his children. Ancient fromfrom braile text indicate that in this era of man we live in punishment will spawn as minutes,hours...Lightyears, gigallenias to be added to the wait of Elden Rings release, thank you and may Miyazaki b w\ you
Not to forget Elder Scrolls 6 that has all of a sudden gone over to Souls controls... That will totally happen...
10:05 Holy shit that JOJO pose pontiff makes is so damn cool, shame they didnt keep it!
Not even close to being a Jojo pose...
I wonder if the Idea for the Snake soul was derived from applying the logic of what happened to Manus' corpse in DS1 to dark serpent Kaathe.
We know there was the idea he is dead from Yuria's scapped dialouge. Maybe he learned how Manus became something more after he died and tried to replicate that.
its also possible this would have linked back to dark souls 2, since from there we know after Manuses death his soul produced several "daughters" and perhaps Kathes would do the same after his death, these daughters went on to seduce and corrupt the leaders of kingdoms and ultimately bringing them to ruin, exactly as Friede did to the painted world, and (depending on how you interpret usurping the fire) exactly what Yuria is trying to do to you
perhaps the snake soul would have been one of the sisters(probably Liliane since she doesent really exist in the current version) revealing her true form to fight you like Nashandra does, also of note is that Magnus had four daughters, 3 malicious while the fourth was redeemed threw the companionship of the very person she plotted against, Karlas ashes imply she either is one of manuses daughters or at least a similar daughter of the abyss, and is implied to be the person Alva was seeking, Alva is similarly noted to have found comfort and purpose in someone who once plotted against him
I'm rewatching this after playing elden ring and have to say the speculation about what should be added to Elden ring aged like fine wine.
It seems a lot of the cut features are coming back to Elden Ring.
im pretty sure they meant Waifu instead of wife. It makes a lot more sense.
Yeah, having a never before mentioned character suddenly be one of the most important lore-wise would be a dick move. Velka has always been my headcanon.
Warning about Displate from personal experience, my poster has two small (~0.5 mm diameter) "holes" where I think the print got scratched off, but that was how it arrived.
It's not noticeable from more than about 2 meters away, though.
Can't you get a replacement?
DARK SOULS: PREPARE TO PANTS EDITION
Fascinating to see how many of these cut things they ended up working into elden ring mechanic wise.
You were on point with the idea that sekiro's mechanics were going to greatly shape up elden ring's gameplay.
Just realized that Aldrich is basically what Smough may have eventually become, with the cannibalism tract.
Smough only nibbled people, that's how he lasted so long
You can also buy Smoughs armour set from the Handmaiden after you kill Aldrich. Maybe it is him
@@Jazz-ud4uo Smough was more than likely killed by Sulyvahn or Aldrich shortly before the Ashen One arrived.
Yeah this has been speculated before, I think Vaati may have said as much in one of his videos even. It also tracks given that we killed the true Smough in Dark Souls 1, but the Ornstein was just an illusion, as we find the real Ornstein dead near Nameless King.
It would also explain how Aldrich knew where to find Gwyndolin who was otherwise hidden and why that was the first god he went after- Gwyndolin kept Smough trapped in Anor Londo for millennia guarding illusions. He likely grew resentful
@@Trey-qe2il didmt pontiff basically sacrifice gwyndolin to aldrich? So he wouldnt have really needed to find him
12:39
Player: "What!? You can turn into my wife?"
Anri: "Ahuh huh huh!"
In my opinion Sullyvan being a mid game boss is way better that him being the last boss. When you think about it, Sullyvan is the closest the Ds series has of a main antagonist, he is the responsible of almost every bad thing that has happen,, yet he is only the boss that marks the midle of the game, the great part of his story is told AFTER you kill him and i love that, it shows perfectly DS3 message of all thing coming to an end, does not matter how important, big or powerfull you are, eventually you are goin to die. This would have been completly lost if he was the last opponent you fight, because the title of being the last boss of a saga as well know as DS is a important one, that fits perfectly to a entity born of the ashes of the past, including Gwin.
btw, sorry for my broken english
hum, i kind of disagree. Sullivan is a very important character and it hurts that he is forgotten after the middle od the game. Perhaps the idea of having an antagonist actually goes against the feel of the series but at the same time sullivan as a character deserved a better told and understood story
Not that Vaati will ever see this, but i think it would be cool to have more videos detailing the specifics of the unseen lands. We’ve already seen a video on Carthus, but i think Carim, Catarina, and Courland (why so many Cs Miyazaki?) are just as cool and it would be a nice tool to have at our disposal if we ever need to reference lire on a specific area that we never get to see.
It's really cool to go back to this video after thoroughly enjoying elden ring, and then seeing content that was repurposed and thinking, "THATS IT, THATS MY BOY"
For #3 your absolutely right about sekiro cause look at elden ring, jumping crouching stealth, it's all there
"What a sci fi souls game might look like"
The surge: am I a joke to you?
Lets not talk about the surge, kay?
@@kirin6544 Oi the surge was fuckin amazing
The surge 2 was really good, great level design
@@kirin6544 why? Its a good game. Runs better on ps4 then any of the from soft games.
@@commandernomad2817 well i actually never played it, but a good friend of mine, played it, and bc he didn't like it he now refuses to play Dark Souls
That future souls painting is literally hellpoint now.
Can't imagine how badass Sulyvahn could have been if he was the final boss. I can totally see him summoning summoning 4 different stands with different weapons and movesets, using ice magic and many other things.
Thanks Vaati, this video is way better than a "prepare to cry", i loved the intro and your attitude haha
1:18 I'm guessing this is what the elden ring stealth will be like. That is if they haven't just used up all their stealth gameplay in sekiro.
I can’t get over Anri’s tiny head at the end 😂
I love me some more secrets, just as I'm getting pangs to play through the series again
Its crazy watching this and seeing that tons of these features in Elden Ring were actually cut content from Dark Souls 3.
Some additional fun lore for Executioner Smough: in New Guinea, a tribe of pygmy’s that practiced cannibalism succumbed to a disease called “kuru.” The most noticeable symptom of kuru was fits of manic laughter.
A trait we also see in the Executioner.
Why did they cut Pontiff’s sword animation, it looks sick 🤣
28th of December 2020, still no Lady Maria prepare to cry.
I love your content, you're clearly very proficient in what you do. I have been a fan since I was back in college. I just wanted to give you a heads up, the backflip is actually called a back handspring. I know a lot of my cheerleading friends and athletes that I have coached love this game and your content, and we would definitely geek out if you were to nail the name of the move. So no complaints, you just seem the type to appreciate being as specific as possible.
Vaati, You're a big part of the reason that Dark Souls 3 is my favorite game I have played thus far. You showed me that the "lore" in a video game is so much more than just "adding something interesting". When I played Dark Souls 3 for the first time, I quit as soon as I entered Wall of Lothric just because it seemed too hard. The sole reason I picked it up again is because I watched one of your videos and you introduced me to the vast world that FromSoft puts in their big titles. I just want to say thank you for making me realize the beauty in the stories that some developers tell the player.
Vaati, you seem to constantly disrespect your fans in a smug way by refusing to uphold your promise about the Lady Maria video
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