Find out more info here: stethelburgas.org. The spaces can be hired out for peaceful events and weddings etc with the money going back into the maintenance of this historic building
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There is an even smaller one in Dover, ST Edmonds. It was nearly pulled down, was also used as a blacksmith’s. It was a chapel for pilgrims making their way to Canterbury cathedral, some didn’t make it and were given their funeral in this chapel. I renewed my wedding vows in this chapel a few years ago and it was very beautiful. It was said to be the first wedding recorded at this chapel.
@@bernadettekavanagh9984 Thankfully I have managed to get myself out of Dover since than and I’m happily settled in a much better place. Dover has a rich history but the place has gone downhill and is now unrecognisable to its once proud and decent days.
So some little known trivia about the place. Before the bombing there was an Eagle Scout project to restore the finish on the pews using the original ancient formula. Sadly the Bishopsgate bombing destroyed the work. (The American School In London had a Boy Scout Troop associated with it which was part of the US scouting system)
I used to gp there in the 1980's. There was an old priest that used to offer the Tridentine Mass without server. Some busybody in the foyer tried to stop me entering the church telling me it was a private Mass with no congregation. This was before the days of Pope Benedicts indult.
@@SanteeNellie True. It did thanks to Cardinal Heenan. But it was only granted occasionally to groups like the Latin Mass Society and a few elderly priests who wanted to continue using the Tridentine Rite. It was by no means on-demand. I was refused my polite requests three times by three different Bishops. Cardinal Hume was one of them.
@@citizen1163 I guess you are referring to changes? London, like most big cities is always changing. If that is what you are referring to then no, London is NOT leaving me!🤨
You clearly know absolutely nothing about what england did to places of religious and cultural significance in Ireland. Inform yourself before making biased and frankly ignorant comments.
This reminds me of our remarkable St. Paul's Chapel (lower Manhattan, NYC, USA) which survived The Great Fire of 1776 (Revolutionary War) as well as 9/11 (directly across street - where all of the First Responders would go to relax, get water, food, massages, etc. The cemetery behind it was completely blackened and covered with ashes and its fence walls were covered by posters of missing people for months. Still there and a wonderful piece of history if you ever visit NYC! It's half 9/11 memorial (not to be confused with the formal one) and half church.
Lol, I literally attended a wedding here last weekend. Super lovely venue, great having a few drinks out back in a tent bookended on all sides by skyscrapers. Plus they let me ring the bell!
It's such a lovely, tranquil venue! I went there once to hear Baluji Shrivastav perform, ages ago. Definitely need to visit it again! Thank you for featuring this wonderful building on your channel.
Oh no, a former church set to be torn down, has been turned into a place promoting peace! 😱 And it allows people of all religions in there to worship?! SOMEONE CALL THE MORAL POLICE!
Yes, because all religions are welcome in this country, not just your favourite one. The most popular census response is atheist, so even though we are a "Christian country" in title, we are not any where near Christian overall anymore. I've met far more Muslims than Christians in my life time living here. It's within their rights to have places of worship, whether that building used to be a Christian Church or not
A bedouin tent as reaction on 9-11? so kinda like having a Lederhosen exhibtion as a reaction on de Luftwaffe bombing London during the Battle of Britain?
The bedouin had nothing to do with the IRA, WWII, churches or 911. Lederhosen are a Bavarian outfit, not anything to do with the Luftwaffe or WWII or 911 or the IRA. I think you are drawing parallels where there are none.
It's a similar story to the Gedächtniskirche in Hamburg and the Kaiser Wilhelm memorial in Berlin. They wanted to tear them down but they were kept as memorials instead.
It's fairly telling-and should be a challenge to Anglicans in London-that post-explosion, the church didn't return to worship there, and that a "center for reconciliation and peace" took its place, as though a church wouldn't be a center for reconciliation and peace.
I had a birthday event there a few years ago. Loved it, especially when we all gathered in the tent when it rained. It was August in London so no surprise.
Christianity is declining in Britain, as is having any faith in general. I agree though that it is sad to see historic buildings lay empty, they could definitely be given a new purpose!
I just said this place is doing that . The world is another matter entirely. I’m not a religious person, was once, not anymore. It was nice to see one place trying to be the change, we all need.
That’s nice, I bet in Mecca or Medina they have a Protestant church too to teach people good will and understanding… and it’s obviously working big time.
@@howtubeablelots of empty churches in the UK, most are falling down or being turned into houses. What is wrong with the purpose this one has been put to?
I used to walk past the church in 2013 when I was working on a building site near it.i used to think who would bother going to this little old church .
Peoples comments about Muslims and the Irish prove why we NEED organisations that bring peace between different groups such as the one that's based in this church
Thus kinda reminds me of a very similar sized blue church in Tenerife. Cant remember for the life of me where in Tenerife it is, but it was there 13 years ago.
@@chriss4432 it isnt, though? It's an abandoned church, so it'll still have a rich history attached to it, simply because of it's age and location. Having it be a center for (amongst other things) peace is, in my opinion, just another piece of history in the making, and a very noble value to instill in a building, which has been tied to an institution that historically hasnt been very peaceful and loving
Nah. I'm British and while I'll stand by the quality of our history, we have fair match ups with Italy, Greece, Turkey, Iran, Ethiopia, India, China, and Japan.
@@WolfbloodJakeWilliams Certainly true in terms of it's ancient nature. Obviously you'd add the likes of Egypt to that too. I think ours is the most interesting and beautiful though.
Who is they? You did hear the part about the IRA blowing it up, right? Seems like dedicating its mission to reconciliation is pretty fitting... One might even call it very Christian.
Yes I agree and what's more I don't believe they couldn't have fully restored it to what it was like before the bombing. Too many of the remaining churches in the city are under threat of "redundancy". Considering the background of the current Archbishop of Canterbury you would also have thought he could use that previous experience with his former colleagues to raise funds to repair and keep them open.
@@wattyler2994that is an incorrect and inappropriate representation of what has been created. We need more such places, thinking and action. Open minds
It’s beautiful how they’re repurposing such a great building to bring together cultures and communities who otherwise may not have been able to make relationships with eachother due to societal norms. People who call this wrong are forgetting God’s most important teachings. As well as loving god, to love your neighbours. The New Covenant is the way forward, and living in ignorance to it is making a fool of yourself.
I promise you, when the time comes, they won't return the favor. The barbarians aren't at the gates. You let them in and put them on benefits. You bloody fools.
I find it ironic that this comment section is the exact opposite of the values that the nonprofit is based on: building relationships across divisions of conflict and culture.
Find out more info here: stethelburgas.org. The spaces can be hired out for peaceful events and weddings etc with the money going back into the maintenance of this historic building
I'd love to see the Muslims put up a little wendy house church in one of their mosques......
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I can imagine the acoustics would be great for classical concerts
I worked on the Restoration of this Church.
Guess what no one gives a flying fuck
Wow that must have been amazing! What did you get to do?
what's the japanese / burman connection ? !
Nice! Well done!
It’s a shame it’s lost all its English heritage now though.
Cool.
There is an even smaller one in Dover, ST Edmonds. It was nearly pulled down, was also used as a blacksmith’s.
It was a chapel for pilgrims making their way to Canterbury cathedral, some didn’t make it and were given their funeral in this chapel.
I renewed my wedding vows in this chapel a few years ago and it was very beautiful.
It was said to be the first wedding recorded at this chapel.
How about doing a RUclips video for it.?
@@bernadettekavanagh9984 Thankfully I have managed to get myself out of Dover since than and I’m happily settled in a much better place. Dover has a rich history but the place has gone downhill and is now unrecognisable to its once proud and decent days.
@Bedmoments I can't imagine living in Pakistan in the first place
@@longiusaescius2537
Another racist
@@longiusaescius2537 stop being a racist prick.
Used to pass this church regularly when I lived in London. Thanks for fantastic nuggets of history and information.
A Bedouin tent in response to 9/11? How does that make sense?
It seems this beautiful church is continuing to turn the other cheek…. And then it will become a mosque.
Anything goes 'Church' .
These leftards are so fucked up… according to them, if you don’t do that you are thinking all Muslims are terrorists 🤷♂️
@@Kualabear02 It looks ridiculously out of place.
Not good
So some little known trivia about the place. Before the bombing there was an Eagle Scout project to restore the finish on the pews using the original ancient formula. Sadly the Bishopsgate bombing destroyed the work. (The American School In London had a Boy Scout Troop associated with it which was part of the US scouting system)
The "bedouin tent" looks more like a classic yurt.
As someone who has been in a real Bedouin tent village in Jordan, you are entirely correct
It is a classic yurt.
@@stefanleonardo9734 why?
Either way I’m glad the building is being used for such a deeply compassionate purpose as cultural reconciliation. ❤
@@stefanleonardo9734 It has every right to be there
I used to gp there in the 1980's. There was an old priest that used to offer the Tridentine Mass without server. Some busybody in the foyer tried to stop me entering the church telling me it was a private Mass with no congregation. This was before the days of Pope Benedicts indult.
England had an indult before pope Benedict gave one for the whole church 😊
@@SanteeNellie True. It did thanks to Cardinal Heenan. But it was only granted occasionally to groups like the Latin Mass Society and a few elderly priests who wanted to continue using the Tridentine Rite. It was by no means on-demand. I was refused my polite requests three times by three different Bishops. Cardinal Hume was one of them.
Then you have to wonder why the IRA would target that particular church at all. It seems they do not see the Catholics in England as brothers.
@@mmyr8ado.360 because the IRA are violent psychos looking for an excuse.
I love this part of London. So pretty and so many stories to discover!
I live just north of here - I will never leave London!
@@sparagmos4748 Wait till diversity reaches you.
@@sparagmos4748 You might not leave London but is 'London' leaving you?
@@citizen1163 I guess you are referring to changes? London, like most big cities is always changing.
If that is what you are referring to then no, London is NOT leaving me!🤨
@@sparagmos4748 My multi ethnic London family been in London for many many generations BUT since Blair opened borders the influx is unsustainable.
How unutterably sad that the IRA would trash this ANCIENT and venerable place of worship. What monsters.
You clearly know absolutely nothing about what england did to places of religious and cultural significance in Ireland. Inform yourself before making biased and frankly ignorant comments.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
However, this is a result of more than a century of extreme oppression.
@@Fred-wb5nzfair enough but it is still a shame.
@@monicanath4859 I agree. The destruction of all cultural artefacts during a conflict is a great shame.
But who actual built it......
I love how it says "peace" on the door inside
This reminds me of our remarkable St. Paul's Chapel (lower Manhattan, NYC, USA) which survived The Great Fire of 1776 (Revolutionary War) as well as 9/11 (directly across street - where all of the First Responders would go to relax, get water, food, massages, etc. The cemetery behind it was completely blackened and covered with ashes and its fence walls were covered by posters of missing people for months. Still there and a wonderful piece of history if you ever visit NYC! It's half 9/11 memorial (not to be confused with the formal one) and half church.
Lol, I literally attended a wedding here last weekend. Super lovely venue, great having a few drinks out back in a tent bookended on all sides by skyscrapers. Plus they let me ring the bell!
Was it dandy? Ringing the bell? 😂
@@localforeigner9528 it was fun but they did tell me I gave it a bit too solid a tug 🫣
How cool!
Sounds super lovely 🙄
Wow, I will never stop being amazed by London and Londoners ❤
It's such a lovely, tranquil venue! I went there once to hear Baluji Shrivastav perform, ages ago. Definitely need to visit it again! Thank you for featuring this wonderful building on your channel.
I walk past there every week and always wondered what it was. Love London ❤
Blasphemous choices.
Thank you for the information about the history of the church ❤.
Bedouin tent -with prayer mats for islamic prayers? In a former church!!!!
You answered yourself. It’s a former church.
Oh shut up. The mayor will make them all have a reserved room for bumintheair worship soon. Get used to it. 😂
Oh no, a former church set to be torn down, has been turned into a place promoting peace! 😱 And it allows people of all religions in there to worship?! SOMEONE CALL THE MORAL POLICE!
@@NoMan-pp1jq A Symbol of the Islamic Conquest of England.
Yes, because all religions are welcome in this country, not just your favourite one. The most popular census response is atheist, so even though we are a "Christian country" in title, we are not any where near Christian overall anymore. I've met far more Muslims than Christians in my life time living here. It's within their rights to have places of worship, whether that building used to be a Christian Church or not
Omg cant wait to get back to the UK to tour all your London haunts I didn’t discover despite wandering around for a year there , do you run tours?
And did that act of vandalism change anything? Improve anyone’s life? No. It only destroyed an object of beauty.
Calling a terrorist bombing an "act of vandalism" is certainly a massive understatement.
yup freedom fighters are always wrong, I hate freedom
Saint Ethelburger kind of sounds pre-Norman to me! 😊
exactly. A shift from pagan Ethylred. Pre 1066.
There's an Ethelburger Estate, just past Battersea Bridge towards Clapham Junction.
@@emmirey4640 The English had been Christian for centuries before 1066 so the chance of Ethelburg being pagan are essentially 0.
I'd say the Normans actively suppressed the worship of native English saints such as Ethelburga.
Beautiful
A bedouin tent as reaction on 9-11? so kinda like having a Lederhosen exhibtion as a reaction on de Luftwaffe bombing London during the Battle of Britain?
Yes that is..... bizarre lol
The bedouin had nothing to do with the IRA, WWII, churches or 911.
Lederhosen are a Bavarian outfit, not anything to do with the Luftwaffe or WWII or 911 or the IRA.
I think you are drawing parallels where there are none.
Why do you feel the need to make everything so divisive
@@angrytedtalks so it is a great comparison
@@nicholasc.5944 Why do you feel the need to act dumb, or is that just natural
Sad to hear they couldn't restore it back to being a church
The Church of England decided to change it to a 'center for peace and reconciliation '. This area of London is not really populated out of work hours.
@logwhitley Not entirely true. They actually wanted to demolish it. It was public outcry that saved it.
@@localforeigner9528 what is untrue?
@@wisdumbteethI hope you're going to be that cocky on Judgement Day ...
It's a similar story to the Gedächtniskirche in Hamburg and the Kaiser Wilhelm memorial in Berlin. They wanted to tear them down but they were kept as memorials instead.
It's fairly telling-and should be a challenge to Anglicans in London-that post-explosion, the church didn't return to worship there, and that a "center for reconciliation and peace" took its place, as though a church wouldn't be a center for reconciliation and peace.
Beautiful inside and out. 🌿♥️✌️♥️🌿
You have a great Channel.🤓
Good education...🤓
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As an Aussie living in London, I walk past here everyday at work to grab my cuppa Joe and didn’t even realise this 😂
I had a birthday event there a few years ago. Loved it, especially when we all gathered in the tent when it rained. It was August in London so no surprise.
Note the proximity and pattern of the glass skyscraper. It's a modern 'tower of Babel.'
It looks like a giant glass dong.
That’s a bit of a stretch friend
@@islanddryad what do you expect from insane people?
Places like this church and it’s transformation into a center for reconciliation and peace give me hope.
As a Muslim living in London, it’s very sad to see many beautiful churches are empty across the country
I agree
"As a Muslim"
@@vulpes7079 why have you replied with "as a muslim" - are you trying to get at something?
Wondering who is replacing them and with what 🤔
Christianity is declining in Britain, as is having any faith in general. I agree though that it is sad to see historic buildings lay empty, they could definitely be given a new purpose!
Wow that's beautiful 😍
Every now and then raves are hosted in this church.
I've been there 4 times for a rave 😂
The best part is the end, where the church embraced tragedy with love rather than hate. Buillding a place of understanding and reconciliation!
Look around you though, it’s not working.
I just said this place is doing that . The world is another matter entirely. I’m not a religious person, was once, not anymore. It was nice to see one place trying to be the change, we all need.
That’s nice, I bet in Mecca or Medina they have a Protestant church too to teach people good will and understanding… and it’s obviously working big time.
What a heart warming new purpose this building has.
It's not heartwarming. It's depressing. An active church is now a meeting center/wedding venue.
It's not heart warming you fool. They've twisted it's purpose.
@@howtubeableit’s dedicated to peace rather than a single religion.
I’d say it’s gained purpose.
Is is sad that the architecture was destroyed, though
@@howtubeablelots of empty churches in the UK, most are falling down or being turned into houses. What is wrong with the purpose this one has been put to?
Not really. Just more erasure of England and its culture.
isn't the "beduin tent" actually a mongolic yurt?
A church should always be a church. Should not turn it into anything else.
The vast majority of churches in the UK have already been demolished because they're entirely unwanted.
I used to walk past the church in 2013 when I was working on a building site near it.i used to think who would bother going to this little old church .
I pass here many times. I will check it out.
If ye put down the McDonald's burger 😂
Now let the mosque incorporate part of a church in it
Ha
😂😂
More than one has done exactly that. You DO understand that they share a "god" with the other two Abraham-ic religions?.
Visit the mesquita in cordoba, Spain. A beautiful mosque with an incongruous, gaudy, catholic thing stuck in the middle.
@@emilydavison2053 There had been a Church on the site of the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Assumption before the invasion of the Muslim hordes.
Why a Bedoin Tent, in response to 9/11 ?
And now there is no conflict in the world. Ah, the power of prayer.
What a wonderful story!
Had a party in there last month
Can we visit it ?
It is surprising that the city authorities did not take away their land
Thank you 🎉🎉🎉🎉
1300th century.... That's the 1200s! Yikes. Amazing.
Im American. Thanks for showing me a beautiful historical church.
This is super cool
wow this comment section is just... really went downhill
Yeah
Peoples comments about Muslims and the Irish prove why we NEED organisations that bring peace between different groups such as the one that's based in this church
True@@goose9515
Lot's of racists nowadays.
@@goose9515nobody voted for infinity migrants, fix the issue and rediscover how peaceful this land was 💁♂️
Beautiful things are often hidden.
What a waste of space!! Reconciliation?? Bedouin tent!!! Absolute joke!
What are you trying to convey here
@@MattTheEngineer. I think he is saying it sounds like another church turned into a mosque, what did you think he was saying?
The fact that a christian church stood there for hundreds of years, and now it's a place catering to minorities.
I think it's an excellent idea, we need more forward thinkers bringing differing people together
@@MattTheEngineer. The fact that a christian church stood here for hundreds of years, now it's catering to minority groups.
Thus kinda reminds me of a very similar sized blue church in Tenerife. Cant remember for the life of me where in Tenerife it is, but it was there 13 years ago.
It’s an insult to western culture
Why?
You don't know why... that's why... because the heritage is being removed..
@@chriss4432 it isnt, though? It's an abandoned church, so it'll still have a rich history attached to it, simply because of it's age and location.
Having it be a center for (amongst other things) peace is, in my opinion, just another piece of history in the making, and a very noble value to instill in a building, which has been tied to an institution that historically hasnt been very peaceful and loving
Yeah.. wooosh.
Agreed
english history knocks spot of everyone elses
Nah. I'm British and while I'll stand by the quality of our history, we have fair match ups with Italy, Greece, Turkey, Iran, Ethiopia, India, China, and Japan.
@@WolfbloodJakeWilliams Certainly true in terms of it's ancient nature. Obviously you'd add the likes of Egypt to that too. I think ours is the most interesting and beautiful though.
A small but great example of why colonization harms the colonizers as well as the colonized. Glad it's been rebuilt.
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History is a long chain of colonizers/colonized, it didn’t just start with Europe.
They took a beautiful ancient church and shit on it.
😢
What a disgrace
Who is they? You did hear the part about the IRA blowing it up, right? Seems like dedicating its mission to reconciliation is pretty fitting... One might even call it very Christian.
I wonder if the 1 million people who starved in Ireland while they were exporting food to Britain would have anything to say about that🤔
@@goose9515 probably not since dead people don't speak
Very interesting, thanks
As opposed to a all profit church .....
Can I buy this. Would make a great luxury residential skyscraper
Really horrible what has become of it. I’d much prefer it to be a real church.
Promoting peace across cultural divides is horrible?
Yes I agree and what's more I don't believe they couldn't have fully restored it to what it was like before the bombing. Too many of the remaining churches in the city are under threat of "redundancy". Considering the background of the current Archbishop of Canterbury you would also have thought he could use that previous experience with his former colleagues to raise funds to repair and keep them open.
What? How is that horrible? Sounds much better than a church to me.
@@DenkyManner yes but you Don't have to turn it into pagan temple to do that
@@wattyler2994that is an incorrect and inappropriate representation of what has been created. We need more such places, thinking and action. Open minds
Amazing!!
I thought it was an entrance to Diagon Alley 💀
It’s beautiful how they’re repurposing such a great building to bring together cultures and communities who otherwise may not have been able to make relationships with eachother due to societal norms. People who call this wrong are forgetting God’s most important teachings. As well as loving god, to love your neighbours. The New Covenant is the way forward, and living in ignorance to it is making a fool of yourself.
Very interesting, thanks for for the video
A former Vicar of the church in the 19th century, translated the Koran into English, and a memorial tablet attests to this remarkable feature.
Islamist brought down two buildings and in response they built a prayer tent? This doesn't work with Islamists.
It seems like you didn't listen to anything said in the video.
It's lovely that something so ancient is being used as a modern symbol of peace and unity.
Beautiful place in London. ❤
Surprised its not a mosque
Seems the CofE tried their best to make it into one.
At least they put a beduine tent in the backyard…
Sure kid.
I'll put this on my list of places to visit.
This wonderful old church was utterly ruined. Twice.
I could pray there. What a beautiful place ❤
These nooks and crannies of London are what endears the city to me the most.
That Bedouin tent looks very much like a Mongolian ger, i must say.
That's so interesting!
How did it survive the Dissolution under Henry VIII?
I hope I will get a job I applied for in London. I miss that city and can always find things to do
Well it's better than transforming it into a house 🏠.
Love that place
Heart-warming ❤
This is really cool
Wow ❤❤
Why would we want an arab tent in the church ? Thats a shame because its nothing to do with that site
Who in earth was Saint Whatsilburger?
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How beautiful 😍
I promise you, when the time comes, they won't return the favor. The barbarians aren't at the gates. You let them in and put them on benefits. You bloody fools.
Sang in there once
I love that they made it stand for unity instead of division. Wish more places were like that. ❤
It's doublespeak
Interesting--thanks!
God damn ira...
Bring eastern means make it Islamic.
Very cool. That nonprofit must be very busy of late period
I want to visit London so bad. I want to be dropped there and walk every street for a week or two 😊
I find it ironic that this comment section is the exact opposite of the values that the nonprofit is based on: building relationships across divisions of conflict and culture.