😫I don't know why you're all mad at me for talking about 8 Episodes. Of course several episodes would be much better, I mentioned that twice in the video! But that is not the issue here. I just worked with what we had and proved that it could be done. Please stay constructive and respectful! 💙
dont mind them, they're fans that will take nothing less than a perfect 10 eps season that covers everything they want my only critique is that based on season 1 we should really consider the possibility that parts will get cut out completely (examples: most Don Crieg, many parts of Arlong Park etc. ) on a second thought maybe u shouldnt, if fans already jumping on u for doing an 8eps season breakdown which is likely, imagine if u do a vid of what parts to cut out 😂
Well 8 episodes can be good. But more would be definitely better. In season 1 many things were scrabbed taking away impact. And we have also Logue town. Smoker, Ace, Crocodile, the giants, all the agents, the king, Kureha, Wapol.. this is totally squeezed in 8 episodes. Why not do more and make sure t to be great?
This is LougeTown and Arabazta Ark.,1 ep in Loguetown is decent,. 1 ep again for laboon and Crocus., 1 ep for whiskey peak., In the 1st season they shouldve include lougetown., in my opionion., if they skip that , i dont know whats dA thing going not happen in the show..
if you follow the season 1 format you will get this solution... episode 1 (loguetown / tashigi / introduction of marine boss smoker and explanation of type devil fruit /alvida /buggy/ zoro new sword /luffy in rogers execution platform / dragon saves luffy ) episode 2 ( reverse mt / going merry going up / laboon / crocos / rumbard pirate back story ( whiskey peak / vivi / ingaram / mr 9 / mr 5 / ms valentine / miss monday / vivi joins strawhat / coby and helmeppo training by garp /robin introduced as miss all sunday / mr 3 teaser ) episode 3 ( little garden / dory / brogy / dory brogy fighting / mr 3 / miss golden week / introduction of corodile in alabasta) episode 4 ( little garden / mr 5 , miss golden week , miss valentine vs strawhat and vivi / candle cake / luffy vs mr 3 / dory and broggy fight ended / mr 3 reported to crocodile about vivi / nami is sick ) episode 5 ( drum island / drum island villagers and dalton / wapol / dr kureiha / chopper / luffy carries nami to mountain / chopper saves luffy / chopper backstory / dr kureiha saves nami / wapol arrives in castle ) episode 6 (drum island / luffy vs wapol / all the doctor released by wapol / chopper joins strawhat / garp reports to smoker about the civil war in alabasta / going to alabasta strawhat encountered mr 2 / x mark was written on their wrist /smoker , marines with coby and helmeppo / coby and helmeppo battle with luffy and zoro / ace introduce / luffy vs vivi / crocodile attacks luffy / robin helps luffy ) episode 7 (alabasta / nefertari cobra / koza / vivi backstory / pell/ chaka / baroque top agent introduce / mr 1 , mr 2 , miss double finger , mr 4 , miss mery xmas / alabasta revolution and backstory / concept of poneglyph / civil war / vivi confronts crocodile { vivi help me scene } episode 8 ( alabasta / baroque top agent and crocodile vs strawhat / mr 1 vs zoro / mr 2 vs sanji / miss double finger vs nami / merry xmas and mr 4 vs ussop and chopper / luffy vs crocodile round 2 / luffy defeats corcodile and free the kingdom / final marine boss smoker vs luffy / helmeppo and coby disagree to fight luffy / ace saves luffy / smoker give up chasing luffy / vivi left strawhat crew / x mark farewell to vivi / end credit robin embarked in strawhat fleet )
It absolutely can be done in 8 Episodes…But it shouldn’t. For example, you had Reverse, Whiskey, and Little in a single episode, that’s roughly 20 min per island. They still have to travel and everything, and let’s not forget that we know we are getting a Rumbar Pirates flashback as well. And then with Television unlike Manga/Anime you usually have the A Plot, and then B Plots and C Plots, that are laced throughout the entire Season that you still have to fit in here. Yes, it’s doable in 8 Episodes, but I think it would be a disservice to everyone involved. My take on what we should expect; It’s very likely that the B Plot this Season could be Smoker & Tashigi. And, looking at the casting calls so far there is not a single Alabasta Only Character who has been confirmed….So what I expect to happen is that Lougetown/Reverse Mountain/Whiskey Peak and Little Garden will get at the very least 1 entire episode dedicated to them, and…Drum Island will be the final 3 or 4 Episodes. And that’s as far as we will get to in Season 2. Ace will be the character teased in the end, just like smoker was in Season 1. And honestly, this makes a lot of sense after the Season 1 reception. Season 1 told a pretty complete story in terms of television season, so with that trust that they have earned the Team can take it, and use it to leave us on a Cliff Hanger for Season 3, which Season 3 would pay off the BW subplot set up with Zoro in Season 1, and further explored with Vivi in Season 2. And then Season 3 could theoretically make for a cheaper, or around the same cost Season, as they don’t have to travel or change Scenery too much, and have it take place completely in Alabasta. We have to think less of “how many chapters can they fit into an episode” and take a more grounded television approach. Based on all the rumors so far, the casting notices, I think that Season 2 ending in Drum Island/Sakura Kingdom, and Season 3 being a cumulating Season of 1, 2 and 3 is more narratively fulfilling then trying to rush everything out asap. And I say this, really wanting to see Luffy beat the crap out of Crocodile in Season 2 already, but I’d rather they do what’s right for the story. Thats at least my take on it.
You have to keep in mind that Arabasta will certainly be filmed later in a completely different location. That's probably why there are no Arabasta casting calls yet.
@@DesnestheDwarf I am sorry, but please read my comment again, I do not think you understood what I was trying to say. I’ll try abbreviating it in German, but I hope you remember that my German is very rusty. Ich habe nicht gesagt, dass du falsch bist, ich aber gesagt das ich zustimme, und das die das in 8 Episoden machen könnten. Aber, ich habe auch gesagt dass ich glaube, dass das ein Fehler sein würde. Zum Beispiel, du hattest 3 verschiedene Inseln in einer Episode. Das ist ungefähr 20 Minuten pro Insel. Und wir wissen das wir ein Flashback kriegen werden, weil wir das Rumbar Pirate Schiff gesehen haben. Und dann müssen wir auch a die Casting nachdenken. Wir haben bisher nur Rolen gesehen, die bevor Alabasta passieren. Die haben keine Role konfirmiert, wo die nur Szenen in Alasbasta haben. Deswegen glaube ich das wir immer noch 8 Episoden kriegen werden, aber das wir nur bis zu Drum Island gehen werden. Ich hatte auch gesagt, das ich glaube, dass das besser für die Show wäre (Sehe warum in meinem originalen Kommentar). Und mein letzter Punkt war, dass wir anfangen müssen weniger als “chapters per episode” zu denken, weil ne TV Serie anders ist als das Anime. Mit TV Episoden haben wir auch B Plots und C Plots. Ich glaube dass du richtig bist, und das es in 8 Episoden mőglich ist, aber ich glaube auch dass das Tempo schlimm für die Show wäre, und dass es besser wäre das wir nur bis zu Drum Island gehen würden, und dann 8 Episoden für Alabasta in Season 3 machen.
@@DawnKnight1993 I think the best we can hope for is that they split the season into two parts. First part up until Drum secound Alabasta. I don't think we get a whole 8 episodes of Alabasta but maybe 4 or 5 in this case. They can film them in short succession and release them with a year between them. It would prevent the actors aging between Drum and Alabasta and the Alabasta saga still be contained in one season. I wouldn't get my hopes up though.
I like your format. Almost similar to mine but here's my format if they will only do 8 episodes: Episode 1: Loguetown (Just like how Loguetown introduced the series in season 1) This arc in the LA would be shorter than the source material since Smoker already knew what Luffy look like (at the end of season 1). This will also include Zoro buying his swords, Usopp buying tools and equipments, Buggy + Alvida teamwork, and the introduction of Dragon. And this episode will end with the Strawhats crossing the Reverse Mountain and a cliffhanger of showing a huge whale. Episode 2: - Introduction of Laboon, Crocus, Mr. 9, the Unluckies, and Miss Wednesday - Laboon's backstory - Whole of Whiskey Peak - They can also add a scene where Garp, Koby, Helmeppo and the marines crossing the Calm Belts and explaining the concept so that the audience will know why pirates cant easily get out from the Grand Line - Mr. 3 should also be teased here and this episode will end showing Miss All Sunday on the Merry Episode 3: Little Garden. This should be a good choose of episode for this arc because the main villain here is Mr. 3. The title "One Piece" at the start of the episode should be themed to Mr. 3 because its literally episode 3 Episode 4-5: Drum Island I believe this would pretty much flow like Nami's arc on season 1 episode 7 & 8. Nevertheless, the ending of episode 5 should be the iconic fall of blossoms and Chopper finally joining the crew. Episode 6 - 8 (Alabasta) I believe Episode 6 & 7 would choose between these scenes as endings - Strawhats + Smoker getting jailed - Sanji disguised himself as Mr. Prince - Luffy getting hooked by Crocodile - Vivi realizing she isnt with Usopp but Bon Clay - Crocodile defeating Luffy one more time Episode 8 should be the final battle of the Alabasta. After the battle, they can show the Strawhats resting and then switching to other scenes like wanted poster of Luffy and Zoro has been made as well as scenes adapted from Episode 151 where the Warlords Mihawk, Kuma, Doflamingo, and the Fleet Admiral Sengoku have a meeting due to defeat of Crocodile. They may even drop names of the other Warlords too as a teaser. And then, the episode should end with the iconic "X" tatoo rise during the goodbye to Vivi. But wait, thats not all, just like how they teased Smoker at the end of season 1, this episode should also add a VERY ending where Robin showed up in the Merry. And if you analyze this ending scene, it also parallel to my thoughts of how Episode 2 will end but this time Robin will identify herself as Nico Robin, not Miss All Sunday. So dialogues could be something like this: "Miss All Sunday?? What are you doing here?!" "Baroque Works is gone so dont call me by that name anymore. Call me Nico Robin and I am here to join your crew" And then The End
I'm thinking exactly the same regarding the last scene of episode 8. One thing that is so different from other series is that ended on a high note, happy and emotional, not an edgy cliffhanger (Smoker doesn't count). So they definitely need to do the same this time and keep the intromission of Nico Robin as a short "post-credit" scene.
The problem is that you don't get to fully enjoy the world with 8 episodes. Yeah, you can have the events in the series happen, but it'll be rushed, and you wouldn't have the time to fully get immersed into the world, but we'll see.
@DesnestheDwarf yeah, that's my bad. I'm not trying to hate, tho. I still think more than 8 episodes would be better tho but that's just my opinion. Godspeed, dude.
This is just a rumor to be fair, I still think they're getting 10 or 9 episodes. They said the wanted 10 in season 1 but couldn't get the budget for it but since season has really proved itself I don't think the case for 10 episode would be that hard to push for now.
My main issue with 8 episodes is that with Season 1 it was very well done, but started to strain itself with Arlong Park where a lot of things were cut that lessened the impact a little. It probably needed the equivalent of one more episode to be perfect. Likely it was the Garp & Koby content that was added to make a more complete story out of the season - which may not be as big an issue for S2 as the Alabasta Saga is less episodic in that sense. In which case your presented plan certainly works, assuming additional B/C plots aren't added. Should juuust be able to get the necessary scenes from Logue town (maybe pairing some characters up to mix their scenes together?). I agree you can certainly combine the Laboon & Whisky Peak stuff into one. Though I always forget just how much happens in little garden - giving the time to establish dinosaurs on an island, giants, and then the mr 3 and mr prince stuff? That kinda feels like more than 1 episode. But we'll see where they go. Fine with one episode for Chopper's backstory if we blitz through the Walpol stuff 😂 Hopefully 4 episodes are enough for Alabasta. Perhaps my anime only experience has it clouded by the amount of filler? I'm cautiously optimistic for the pacing; at least in the hope on lessons learned in S1. Alabasta's one of my favorite arcs, so I'm just hoping it's done well 😅
I like your breakdown. The beginning of the season will definitely be interesting how they cut the story down to fit. I think that Drum Island will be 2 episodes since it's Chopper's introduction, just like they did with Usopp and Sanji. After watching the Episode of Alabasta anime Special, i can see how they could actually fit Alabasta into 2 1 hour episodes, since the Special was under 2 hours. Though it's true that the movie was very cut down. Idk if 4 episodes would be needed to show Alabasta though. But it'll be fun to see how the patterns continue into season 2 in order to properly predict the structure of future seasons. Great video!
8 episode format (More than likely will happen) 1. Lougetown 2. Reverse Mountain + Whiskey Garden (Cutting Whiskey Peak and combining it with Little Garden) 3. Whiskey Garden 4. Drum Island 5. Drum Island 6. Alabasta 7. Alabasta 8. Alabasta 10 Episode format 1. Lougetown 2. Reverse Mountain/Whiskey Peak 3. Whiskey Peak/Little Garden 4. Little Garden 5. Drum Island 6. Drum Island 7. Crew on the Merry/Alabasta 8. Alabasta 9. Alabasta 10. Alabasta
Tbh logue town episode doesn't even have to start from the sea. It can be start when each member of the crew in the middle of something: ussop buying weapon, nami buying clothes, luffy seeing roger's execution place, and zoro buying swords. Using this rule, every episode can be shorter. What i feel when i read the early grand line saga is more about the chaos that they're experiencing.. Like the unexpected climate, nami suddenly get sick, the crew in the middle of the jurrasic park, getting caught in the middle of civil war, reverse mountain, getting inside the whale, assassins island, etc. If the writer can lean into the chaos aspect, i thing we still get the tone correct. And also, logue town is a good start. Because it is literally ended up with a total chaos. There is luffy execution, smoker, the storm, dragon, smoker wants to catch luffy but get buggy instead, u name it. They can even make straw hat's crew rush the reverse mountain while getting chased by marine and ended in the laboon's stomach to make everything even more chaotic. It is the perfect introduction to the grand line
Yes, actually this is not a problem, because they made it with a type of story in a film format in general like a super hero film...they meet a villain and defeat him..LA is a combined story
You forgot the fact that they might be adding some things. The whole reason we couldn't get to Loguetown in season 1 was because of the Garp side story. They might do the same thing again. You also have almost every episode adapting more than 15 chapters, when that was the absolute limit for season 1, when so much got cut from season 1 already. And a small thing, you said Alabasta is 222 chapters? 0:47
I agree that they can make the next season with only 8 Episodes, but the is how I see for the next Season (title card) Ep. 1 Logue Town / Reverse Mt. part 1 (Smoker) Ep. 2 Reverse Mt. part 2 / Whiskey Peak (Crocus) Ep. 3 Little Garden (Dorry & Brogy) Ep. 4 Drum Island part 1 (Wapol) Ep. 5 Drum Island part 2 (Chopper) Ep. 6 Alabasta part 1 (Ace) Ep. 7 Alabasta part 2 (Crocodile) Ep. 8 Alabasta part 3 (Vivi)
I love how everybody is playing this game in their heads. I wish they accomplish the level of synthesis of episode 1 (this episode has 3 Zoro fights, 2 Luffy fights, a flashback, a prologue and 3 protagonists introduced, without unnecesary cliffhangers). I fear they'll follow the path of Syrup village with many episodes of new plots. There's too many villains in this arc that need to be included because the numbering system but maybe most of them will go the Cabaji route. At the same time the idea of not having the Garp B plot taking time in every episode is hopeful. In the version I play in my head they do a parallel of first episode with the speech: "This is a world like no other..." and the map turning into Loguetown once more, but this time is Luffy in the execution platform instead of Roger and he says "Sorry, I'm dead!". Cut to title card or "Loguetown: 4 hours earlier" or something like that. Also the last scene of the season, the emotional "good ending" of course should be the "X" scene, in parallel of the barrel scene. One Piece should always end in celebration (as long as posible). They could add Robin joining as a "post credit" scene. Another thing is they used Nami (Nami isn't some tool to be used) as the major enigma that closes the season, introduced since episode 1 as Oda wanted in the manga. Maybe Vivi should be the next character that holds the season together from episode 1 (or 2).
@@cwega2463 Thanks! On first season I had 0 expectatives at first and with the news, teasers and cast reveal I was gaining hope. The thing I was fixated on was that if they put Nami as the glue that holds the season they could transform the disparate adventures into a cohesive arc. And they did! Maybe they will do the same again 🤣🙏
(this comment isn’t hate to you, it’s just my opinion on the topic) my issue with the 8 episode idea again is they already cut out a lot in season one. season one covered 95 chapters of the 100 chapters in the east blue saga, in 8 episodes. that’s an average of 11.8 chapters per episode. season 2 is not only covering those final 5 chapters of east blue at logue town, but also the 117 chapter alabasta saga (122 chapters total). that’s 27 more chapters than last season. if they covered it in 8 episodes, then that much content within the same amount of screen time just sets a really bad precedent for the series going forward with longer arcs that are coming. that’s 15.25 chapters per episode, 3 and a half more than the average per episode of last season. but if we have 10 episodes, that’s 12.2 chapters per episode, barely an increase from last season. plus season one was literally originally billed as a 10 episode season before production started and they filed it back due to budgeting reasons. this is how i personally would structure the season: episode 1: logue town and going to reverse mountain and entering the grand line. also part of laboon. episode 2: leaving laboon and the whole of whisky peak (could easily condensed into 40 minutes in one episode). episode 3: little garden. episode 4 and 5: drum island. ending with chopper joining and leaving the island with Vivi feeling better. a solid mid season finale. episode 5-10: all of alabasta. the saga is 63 chapters long, so 5 episodes would be good. arlong park is 27 chapters and was covered in 2 episodes. so 5 episodes for 63 is around a very similar pace. and the season can end with them leaving Vivi and being confused why the poneglyph is pointing to the sky. especially since they are most likely going to expand on Smoker and Tashigi as the B Plot this season to replace Garp; and another C Plot with Ace looking for blackbeard, i think that 10 episodes is suitable. i personally am just not a fan of the idea that they should go with 8 episodes and end it with drum island. in your video you use the 74 anime episodes as a baseline to be like “8 anime episode per netflix episode! it’s the same lace as season one!” but that’s simply not true. the manga and anime have completely different pacing. the alabasta saga in the manga (plus logue town) is literally 122 chapters. so using 74 as your example is kinda off based. also ONE episode is not enough for drum island. that’s rushing it to the MAX.
it just feels like the same thing will happen each season like with Konomi Island: originally beloved time spent in important sections of arcs now whittled down to extremely basic key stuff. Not to mention changing a lot of things for it to work. So: a pretty good Season leading to the finale with anticipation for the end, to then be somewhat disappointed at certain changes.
After watching the life action series I watched the anime for the first time, without nostalgia blocking my objectivity I can say that they really fixed the pacing issue from the anime, I agree that some stuff was better in the anime, like the Nami backstory, but those are just details compared with the favor they did by cutting entirely the Don Crieg fight, it was and still is the most boring thing I have watched yet, most of the filler stories are better than that. Anyway, I believe the Alabasta saga has a lot they can cut, specially the early stuff. I know the live action will never go past a third season, the production would never be able to keep soemthing even remotely close to what the anime or manga shows, there are too many monsters, places, and races that the live action can't handle without breaking the bank. That being said, I would reaaaaaally love to watch a 4 episode Wano Arch, that shit was way too long for its own good, the entire season would be 4 epiodes for Big mom and 4 apisodes for Kaido, thats it.
Combine drum island and little garden for episode 3&4 following the nami sick development and ending with the cherry blossom 1&2 ends with Robin killing igaram 5,6,7,8 for alabasta I love your breakdown and can totally understand but in terms of episode cliffhangers I feel this is more dramatic
You R crazy seriously, they R doing Little Garden with Dinosaurs so we ll get giants and Mr 3 has been confirmed as well. Drum Island has to cover whole Cureha and Chopper backstory which is like one of best One piece backstories and one big villian fight. Honestly from everything shown leaked and told it looks like seasson 2 will end with them arriving to Alabasta
This format only works if there is minimal dialogue, which doesn't seem to be the case in season 1. Jumping from Logue town, Reverse Mountain, Whale, Little Garden, Drum Kingdom wihin 4 episodes is too fast. Also the whole aspect of them struggling to navigate grandline, facing sporadic weather conditions/disasters will need to be cut out. So you lose alot of the threat of the grandline travel, lose the down time on the ship. I think this season 2 ends on Drum Kingdom. Logue town-2 episodes Reverse mountain-2 episodes Little garden-2 episodes Drum Kingdom-2 episodes They eluded during the season 2 netflix promo hints. Season 1 ending scene showed back of Smoker with him burning Luffy bounty. Confirming Loguetown Oda first drew Chopper during season 2 announcement. Confirming Drum kingdom Usopp actor in netflix season 2 promo video dropped a hint at Little garden. There is yet to be any hint season 2 will have Alabasta.
I think it's a real possibility that the 2nd season doesn't actually get to Alabasta and just goes up to Drum Island. Then season 3 will cover Alabasta. The official one piece Netflix page has only hinted at little garden and drum, if they intended on covering Alabasta they might have hinted at it more, or we might have seen casting calls for Alabasta only characters, such as Koza or Pell.
the problem with this is there would be no actual climax for the story of season 2 leaving the season to be very unsatisfying as you are effectively ending the story in the middle of Act 2
@@danielsmid3777 because Wapol is not the primary antagonist of the Alabasta saga, Crocodile is. You would be ending the story in Act 2 even if it seems like it could be a good ending, the overall plot with baroque works and Vivi would have not satisfying payoff.
I absolutely agree. They can do it with 8 episodes. This I've known the writers have proven. They can adapt very well with 8 hours. But I do wish we had more episodes. So we could really build on this world in the live action. Get to know it better. I could also agree with some people saying it's just. Gonna seem like being a little rushed. But who knows? Maybe the writers and oda can pull this off and still make this feel. Amazing. Plus 1 other thing I just realized is this would be 8 episodes that we know of but doesn't entirely say what the run time is for each episode. Some episodes could go longer than 1 hour, possibly 🤲 Allah. Stranger things most recent season. All I know for sure is I'm extremely excited. Super hyped. And now that everything's coming out makes it so much more fun again. This is going to be an epic journey on the rl Voyage, 2 season 2.❤
Sooo fern Alabasta 4 Episoden bekommt ....dann halte ich es für möglich aber ich glaub man muss halt ne menge rausnehmen aus Drum Island...und trotz allem hätte ich gern die neue side story und neue Elemente
I personally think instead of getting eaten at the end of Episode 1 they will be hurtling toward the bottom of Reverse Mountain and resolve it by Luffy fighting what's at the bottom. I do think Ep.2 should primarily be Whiskey Peak.
The problem isn't fitting everything in. they did that in season 1. The problem is the constant feeling of being rushed. With your proposed plan we would get exactly the same. Yes we can do it, but it will feel rushed. Characters, their backstories and current actions need time to cook to feel more fulfilling and rewarding. It's doable in 8 but I feel the 2 extra hours could do so much to improve pacing and emotional fulfillment. But it's a good discussion video.
I get it can be done in 8 episodes. But i want 9. Just to flesh things out a little more. Like give more breathing space to little garden and drum. 9 is enough
For the sake of world building & character development, I would prefer the pacing could be a bit slower. Quantity of chapter adapted not equal to quality of the adaptaton. The arabasta arc & logue town arc are very action & information pack arc compare to East Blue Arc. Furthermore in term of place setting it will be easy to divide the Arabasta Arc into two season. One primarily travelling between island & other one just focusing on the Desert of Arabasta & beyond. Based on recent cast calling, it seem they will adapted to Little Garden only, but I hope they will adapted till Drum Island. Little is more. Episode 1. Logue town. Introducing to logue town, smoker, tashigi. Zoro with the 2 sword. Zoro with tashigi. A little slice of life & comedy. The Execution will be the cliffhanger with storm brewing. Episode 2 Logue town + reverse mountain The execution failing. Sanji & Zoro help luffy escapes. Zoro fight with Tashigi, Luffy fight with Smoker, while the rest of crew defending merry. Dragon came helping luffy & with his messages. The episodes ends with reverse mountain entrances. Episode 3 Reverse Mountain + laboon. The ascend & descending of Reverse Mountain. The crew make a stop to repair the ship & encounter Mr 9 & Mrs Wednesday try to hunt laboon. (I doubted that they will make the whale swallow the ship but I'm really glad if I'm wrong). Then the laboon backstory & introducing the log pose. Episode 4. Whiskey Peak Introducing the grandline world, the weather & the monster. Whiskey peak hospitality. Partying. Zoro showboating. Zoro vs Luffy. Mr. Wednesday & Mr 8 reveal. End with Mr. 8 assasination attempt, & the crew scramble to escape the island just to be warn by Mrs All Sunday. Episodes 5. Little Garden Vivi little backstory, the rebel, the struggle. Arrive at Little Garden. The luffy Adventure. Zoro vs Sanji hunting. The two giant fighting(i hope I'm wrong, but I think they will omitted the character just like Hatchan in Arlong Park). The episodes willl end with Mr 3 & his partner silhouette plotting something. Episodes 6. Little Garden Mr. 3 took action. The Vivi, Zoro, Nami Cake. Luffy vs Mr.3. Usopp & the duck vs Mr.5. Sanji side quest : talk with Mr.0, kill the unluckies & obtaining Arabasta log pose. The farewell to giant. Ended by showing Nami bitten by bug. Episode 7. Drum island Nami sick. The Crisis in Arabasta intensifies. Vivi decision. Blackbeard foreshadowing. Meeting with Chopper. Chopper Backstory. Episode 8. Drum Island. Cure Nami. Luffy Defeat Wapol. Chopper join the crew. Head toward Alabasta. More introduction toward Arabasta. Maybe the season can be end with meeting Mr.2 prior to enter Arabasta.
If there going through alabasta they'll have: Loguetown (5 chapters) Reverse mountain (5) Whisky peak (9) Little garden (15) Drum (25) Alabasta (63) 122 total It's a lot season 1 made it to 95 and was well done so they probably will be able to pull something off, but f*CK will alabasta make it differcult
@DesnestheDwarf fair enough i probably should have more faith since they are obviously very capable of making this, im looking forward to it. Season 3 i imagine is clearer to see since it jaya followed by another massive arc, and water 7/enis lobby are definitely enough for after i see the pattern
You guys are dreaming, we will never reach the end of alabasta in 8 episodes, s1 was 95 chapters for 8 episodes, s 2 would need to cover 122 chapters in the same amount of episodes , and if we are not skipping wapol it’s impossible
If season 2 delivers as season 1 did, then in season 3 Skypiea will be mindblowing and many people will become hooked forever. Can't wait to see Nami making the Merry fly.
According to insider leaks they're filming both season 2 and 3 simultaneously, so we're probably gonna get 16 episodes adapting Alabasta Saga (and maybe Jaya as well.)
@@AndySola thats not a proof of seal, it was proofed that the actor made a mistake there is no such thing officially announced and he read that about AVATAR
8 is too short, that's a fact unless episodes are over a hour. Why can't they do a 5 episode split? First 5 then last 5 the next month like Lincoln Lawyer
Bro nothing is Easssyyyy like you saying !! They will have to do some really cutting and restiching with flashbacks in between to make this work with still missing whole bunch of stuff which the live action needs !! And this will have a so so pacing similar to season 1 Live Action. 10 episodes would have been better. This video is you being optimisitic instead of being realistic! We as fans including you aren't mad at you saying this is doable but it is not EASY as you make it sound! Ofcourse it is doable but doable doesn't mean that you should do it! It is not easy!
0:58 S1 is bad as standar S2 need 12 episode. Is minimum. Netflix makes money from one piece Viewer . rather than spending money on pointless projects. Better Use it for this.
We can totally get the 8 episodes for the second season, but things will get rushed especially realtionships between the characters But seeing what they did between zeff and Sanji I have faith that they will do something good
i dont feel that way.. the realtionships between characters were fleshed out in season 1 more than in the anime... so why with the same pacing should it affect s2?
Also davon halte ich auch recht wenig die 1. Staffel kam so gut an da hätte ich schon erwartet das Netflix seiner neuen großen Cashcow .. mindestens 12 Folgen einräumt
I don't agree with you for Little Garden being half an episode, Little Garden needs complete episode and Drum Island needs at least two episodes to reach a satisfactory climax. My prediction is- Episode 1: Logue town Episode 2: Reverse Mountain Episode 3: Whiskey Peak Episode 4: Little Garden Episode 5: Drum Island 1 Episode 6: Drum Island 2 Episode 7: Alabasta 1 Episode 8: Alabasta 2 Alabasta in 2 episode can be perfectly done, in the anime they waste so much time visiting Nanohana and Doing side quests that really doesn't matter. I don't think Ace will have any significant role, he will come and leave just like Mihawk did in baratie arc
I don't think we need 1 whole episode for Reverse Mountain. You can split the Reverse Mountain arc from the ending of episode 1 and start of episode 2, then the rest of episode 2 is Whiskey Peak. Loguetown would be also much shorter here in the LA because unlike the source material, Smoker already knew what Luffy look like as shown in the end of season 1. So here is my format: #1 - Loguetown + Reverse Mountain (ending at a cliffhanger showing a big whale) #2 - Rest of Reverse Mountain (Twin Capes) + Whiskey Peak #3 - Little Garden #4 to #5 - Drum Island #6 to #8 - Alabasta Little Garden on episode 3 would be a cool concept because of the main villain. Like when they will make the "One Piece" title opening themed to Mr. 3, then why not put that arc in episode 3?
@@second1387 They are building the Rumbar Pirates' ship for a reason. I am sure that they will show the interactions between Brooke, Laboon and Captain Workie pretty early. It will also increase the impact of seeing brooke again in the future seasons. It will not spoil Brooke's identity because Brooke will be skeleton in the future seasons and they can easily change the actor in the future. It's impossible to show the backstory and Laboon Luffy bonding in half of episode
The question is what do you prefer ?! 😂 quality or quantity. Because this means that the budget which is probably 150 millions $ will have to be spread over 10 and not 8 episodes.
@@DesnestheDwarf Yeah I know, I said that for people who complains to haven't 10 episodes. Like you said in the video they totally can make Alabasta Saga in 8 episodes and Sets and VFX would be better.
On one hand would be great if they have that much room for developing the characters and plots. But on the other hand Vivi's arc would be unfinished, and I feel Vivi should had the Nami treatment this season: beign the character that drives the arc.
@@Yungblut to be fair if the rumors are true and they are filming seasons 2 and 3 right after each other, they might be able to release season 3 alot sooner than expected while still giving them plenty of time to get started on skypeia at that point. In this case it might nkt be too bad to end at drum kingdom in season 2.
No way. They need a big bad like Arlong was last season and the Baroque Works storyline can't last too long so it's all happening this season or else Season 3 will feel weird and will also get split up. I would hate it if they ended at Drum Island not gonna lie.
@@DesnestheDwarf only saying this because major characters like crocodile and even ace have not been on casting calls, but then again theyre probably keeping it a secret.
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😫I don't know why you're all mad at me for talking about 8 Episodes. Of course several episodes would be much better, I mentioned that twice in the video! But that is not the issue here. I just worked with what we had and proved that it could be done. Please stay constructive and respectful! 💙
dont mind them, they're fans that will take nothing less than a perfect 10 eps season that covers everything they want
my only critique is that based on season 1 we should really consider the possibility that parts will get cut out completely (examples: most Don Crieg, many parts of Arlong Park etc. )
on a second thought maybe u shouldnt, if fans already jumping on u for doing an 8eps season breakdown which is likely, imagine if u do a vid of what parts to cut out 😂
Well 8 episodes can be good.
But more would be definitely better.
In season 1 many things were scrabbed taking away impact.
And we have also Logue town.
Smoker, Ace, Crocodile, the giants, all the agents, the king, Kureha, Wapol.. this is totally squeezed in 8 episodes.
Why not do more and make sure t to be great?
@@miratunatar thats exactly what i say in the video... did you watched it?
This is LougeTown and Arabazta Ark.,1 ep in Loguetown is decent,.
1 ep again for laboon and Crocus.,
1 ep for whiskey peak.,
In the 1st season they shouldve include lougetown., in my opionion., if they skip that , i dont know whats dA thing going not happen in the show..
if you follow the season 1 format you will get this solution...
episode 1 (loguetown / tashigi / introduction of marine boss smoker and explanation of type devil fruit /alvida /buggy/ zoro new sword /luffy in rogers execution platform / dragon saves luffy )
episode 2 ( reverse mt / going merry going up / laboon / crocos / rumbard pirate back story ( whiskey peak / vivi / ingaram / mr 9 / mr 5 / ms valentine / miss monday / vivi joins strawhat / coby and helmeppo training by garp /robin introduced as miss all sunday / mr 3 teaser )
episode 3 ( little garden / dory / brogy / dory brogy fighting / mr 3 / miss golden week / introduction of corodile in alabasta)
episode 4 ( little garden / mr 5 , miss golden week , miss valentine vs strawhat and vivi / candle cake / luffy vs mr 3 / dory and broggy fight ended / mr 3 reported to crocodile about vivi / nami is sick )
episode 5 ( drum island / drum island villagers and dalton / wapol / dr kureiha / chopper / luffy carries nami to mountain / chopper saves luffy / chopper backstory / dr kureiha saves nami / wapol arrives in castle )
episode 6 (drum island / luffy vs wapol / all the doctor released by wapol / chopper joins strawhat / garp reports to smoker about the civil war in alabasta / going to alabasta strawhat encountered mr 2 / x mark was written on their wrist /smoker , marines with coby and helmeppo / coby and helmeppo battle with luffy and zoro / ace introduce / luffy vs vivi / crocodile attacks luffy / robin helps luffy )
episode 7 (alabasta / nefertari cobra / koza / vivi backstory / pell/ chaka / baroque top agent introduce / mr 1 , mr 2 , miss double finger , mr 4 , miss mery xmas / alabasta revolution and backstory / concept of poneglyph / civil war / vivi confronts crocodile { vivi help me scene }
episode 8 ( alabasta / baroque top agent and crocodile vs strawhat / mr 1 vs zoro / mr 2 vs sanji / miss double finger vs nami / merry xmas and mr 4 vs ussop and chopper / luffy vs crocodile round 2 / luffy defeats corcodile and free the kingdom / final marine boss smoker vs luffy / helmeppo and coby disagree to fight luffy / ace saves luffy / smoker give up chasing luffy / vivi left strawhat crew / x mark farewell to vivi / end credit robin embarked in strawhat fleet )
It absolutely can be done in 8 Episodes…But it shouldn’t. For example, you had Reverse, Whiskey, and Little in a single episode, that’s roughly 20 min per island. They still have to travel and everything, and let’s not forget that we know we are getting a Rumbar Pirates flashback as well. And then with Television unlike Manga/Anime you usually have the A Plot, and then B Plots and C Plots, that are laced throughout the entire Season that you still have to fit in here. Yes, it’s doable in 8 Episodes, but I think it would be a disservice to everyone involved.
My take on what we should expect; It’s very likely that the B Plot this Season could be Smoker & Tashigi. And, looking at the casting calls so far there is not a single Alabasta Only Character who has been confirmed….So what I expect to happen is that Lougetown/Reverse Mountain/Whiskey Peak and Little Garden will get at the very least 1 entire episode dedicated to them, and…Drum Island will be the final 3 or 4 Episodes. And that’s as far as we will get to in Season 2. Ace will be the character teased in the end, just like smoker was in Season 1.
And honestly, this makes a lot of sense after the Season 1 reception. Season 1 told a pretty complete story in terms of television season, so with that trust that they have earned the Team can take it, and use it to leave us on a Cliff Hanger for Season 3, which Season 3 would pay off the BW subplot set up with Zoro in Season 1, and further explored with Vivi in Season 2. And then Season 3 could theoretically make for a cheaper, or around the same cost Season, as they don’t have to travel or change Scenery too much, and have it take place completely in Alabasta.
We have to think less of “how many chapters can they fit into an episode” and take a more grounded television approach. Based on all the rumors so far, the casting notices, I think that Season 2 ending in Drum Island/Sakura Kingdom, and Season 3 being a cumulating Season of 1, 2 and 3 is more narratively fulfilling then trying to rush everything out asap. And I say this, really wanting to see Luffy beat the crap out of Crocodile in Season 2 already, but I’d rather they do what’s right for the story. Thats at least my take on it.
that is out of question here i just work with what we got and nothing else.. i said it twice in teh video that more episodes would be better...
You have to keep in mind that Arabasta will certainly be filmed later in a completely different location. That's probably why there are no Arabasta casting calls yet.
@@DesnestheDwarf I am sorry, but please read my comment again, I do not think you understood what I was trying to say. I’ll try abbreviating it in German, but I hope you remember that my German is very rusty.
Ich habe nicht gesagt, dass du falsch bist, ich aber gesagt das ich zustimme, und das die das in 8 Episoden machen könnten. Aber, ich habe auch gesagt dass ich glaube, dass das ein Fehler sein würde. Zum Beispiel, du hattest 3 verschiedene Inseln in einer Episode. Das ist ungefähr 20 Minuten pro Insel. Und wir wissen das wir ein Flashback kriegen werden, weil wir das Rumbar Pirate Schiff gesehen haben. Und dann müssen wir auch a die Casting nachdenken. Wir haben bisher nur Rolen gesehen, die bevor Alabasta passieren. Die haben keine Role konfirmiert, wo die nur Szenen in Alasbasta haben. Deswegen glaube ich das wir immer noch 8 Episoden kriegen werden, aber das wir nur bis zu Drum Island gehen werden. Ich hatte auch gesagt, das ich glaube, dass das besser für die Show wäre (Sehe warum in meinem originalen Kommentar). Und mein letzter Punkt war, dass wir anfangen müssen weniger als “chapters per episode” zu denken, weil ne TV Serie anders ist als das Anime. Mit TV Episoden haben wir auch B Plots und C Plots.
Ich glaube dass du richtig bist, und das es in 8 Episoden mőglich ist, aber ich glaube auch dass das Tempo schlimm für die Show wäre, und dass es besser wäre das wir nur bis zu Drum Island gehen würden, und dann 8 Episoden für Alabasta in Season 3 machen.
@@DawnKnight1993 I think the best we can hope for is that they split the season into two parts. First part up until Drum secound Alabasta. I don't think we get a whole 8 episodes of Alabasta but maybe 4 or 5 in this case. They can film them in short succession and release them with a year between them. It would prevent the actors aging between Drum and Alabasta and the Alabasta saga still be contained in one season.
I wouldn't get my hopes up though.
I like your format. Almost similar to mine but here's my format if they will only do 8 episodes:
Episode 1: Loguetown (Just like how Loguetown introduced the series in season 1)
This arc in the LA would be shorter than the source material since Smoker already knew what Luffy look like (at the end of season 1). This will also include Zoro buying his swords, Usopp buying tools and equipments, Buggy + Alvida teamwork, and the introduction of Dragon. And this episode will end with the Strawhats crossing the Reverse Mountain and a cliffhanger of showing a huge whale.
Episode 2:
- Introduction of Laboon, Crocus, Mr. 9, the Unluckies, and Miss Wednesday
- Laboon's backstory
- Whole of Whiskey Peak
- They can also add a scene where Garp, Koby, Helmeppo and the marines crossing the Calm Belts and explaining the concept so that the audience will know why pirates cant easily get out from the Grand Line
- Mr. 3 should also be teased here
and this episode will end showing Miss All Sunday on the Merry
Episode 3: Little Garden. This should be a good choose of episode for this arc because the main villain here is Mr. 3. The title "One Piece" at the start of the episode should be themed to Mr. 3 because its literally episode 3
Episode 4-5: Drum Island
I believe this would pretty much flow like Nami's arc on season 1 episode 7 & 8. Nevertheless, the ending of episode 5 should be the iconic fall of blossoms and Chopper finally joining the crew.
Episode 6 - 8 (Alabasta)
I believe Episode 6 & 7 would choose between these scenes as endings
- Strawhats + Smoker getting jailed
- Sanji disguised himself as Mr. Prince
- Luffy getting hooked by Crocodile
- Vivi realizing she isnt with Usopp but Bon Clay
- Crocodile defeating Luffy one more time
Episode 8 should be the final battle of the Alabasta. After the battle, they can show the Strawhats resting and then switching to other scenes like wanted poster of Luffy and Zoro has been made as well as scenes adapted from Episode 151 where the Warlords Mihawk, Kuma, Doflamingo, and the Fleet Admiral Sengoku have a meeting due to defeat of Crocodile. They may even drop names of the other Warlords too as a teaser.
And then, the episode should end with the iconic "X" tatoo rise during the goodbye to Vivi. But wait, thats not all, just like how they teased Smoker at the end of season 1, this episode should also add a VERY ending where Robin showed up in the Merry. And if you analyze this ending scene, it also parallel to my thoughts of how Episode 2 will end but this time Robin will identify herself as Nico Robin, not Miss All Sunday. So dialogues could be something like this:
"Miss All Sunday?? What are you doing here?!"
"Baroque Works is gone so dont call me by that name anymore. Call me Nico Robin and I am here to join your crew"
And then The End
I'm thinking exactly the same regarding the last scene of episode 8. One thing that is so different from other series is that ended on a high note, happy and emotional, not an edgy cliffhanger (Smoker doesn't count). So they definitely need to do the same this time and keep the intromission of Nico Robin as a short "post-credit" scene.
It's not confirm Smoker know Luffy at start of SS2. SS1 end credit maybe the mid of SS2 EP1.
The problem is that you don't get to fully enjoy the world with 8 episodes. Yeah, you can have the events in the series happen, but it'll be rushed, and you wouldn't have the time to fully get immersed into the world, but we'll see.
So you also didnt saw the video and just commented??? I have literal proof and ppl still complain...
@DesnestheDwarf yeah, that's my bad. I'm not trying to hate, tho. I still think more than 8 episodes would be better tho but that's just my opinion. Godspeed, dude.
@@ONEPEAKFRFR thats exactly the same i said in the video twice
This is just a rumor to be fair, I still think they're getting 10 or 9 episodes. They said the wanted 10 in season 1 but couldn't get the budget for it but since season has really proved itself I don't think the case for 10 episode would be that hard to push for now.
@@gokuformanvsfood that isnt the intend of the video.. it just explains that 8 episodes is doable even easier than season 1
My main issue with 8 episodes is that with Season 1 it was very well done, but started to strain itself with Arlong Park where a lot of things were cut that lessened the impact a little. It probably needed the equivalent of one more episode to be perfect.
Likely it was the Garp & Koby content that was added to make a more complete story out of the season - which may not be as big an issue for S2 as the Alabasta Saga is less episodic in that sense.
In which case your presented plan certainly works, assuming additional B/C plots aren't added.
Should juuust be able to get the necessary scenes from Logue town (maybe pairing some characters up to mix their scenes together?).
I agree you can certainly combine the Laboon & Whisky Peak stuff into one. Though I always forget just how much happens in little garden - giving the time to establish dinosaurs on an island, giants, and then the mr 3 and mr prince stuff? That kinda feels like more than 1 episode. But we'll see where they go.
Fine with one episode for Chopper's backstory if we blitz through the Walpol stuff 😂
Hopefully 4 episodes are enough for Alabasta. Perhaps my anime only experience has it clouded by the amount of filler?
I'm cautiously optimistic for the pacing; at least in the hope on lessons learned in S1. Alabasta's one of my favorite arcs, so I'm just hoping it's done well 😅
Well we have to keep in mind it would basically be 4 whole hours of Alabasta
I like your breakdown. The beginning of the season will definitely be interesting how they cut the story down to fit. I think that Drum Island will be 2 episodes since it's Chopper's introduction, just like they did with Usopp and Sanji. After watching the Episode of Alabasta anime Special, i can see how they could actually fit Alabasta into 2 1 hour episodes, since the Special was under 2 hours. Though it's true that the movie was very cut down. Idk if 4 episodes would be needed to show Alabasta though. But it'll be fun to see how the patterns continue into season 2 in order to properly predict the structure of future seasons. Great video!
Awesome! I'm already hyped for season 2 🤩
8 episode format (More than likely will happen)
1. Lougetown
2. Reverse Mountain + Whiskey Garden (Cutting Whiskey Peak and combining it with Little Garden)
3. Whiskey Garden
4. Drum Island
5. Drum Island
6. Alabasta
7. Alabasta
8. Alabasta
10 Episode format
1. Lougetown
2. Reverse Mountain/Whiskey Peak
3. Whiskey Peak/Little Garden
4. Little Garden
5. Drum Island
6. Drum Island
7. Crew on the Merry/Alabasta
8. Alabasta
9. Alabasta
10. Alabasta
We had the same idea, which means it DEFINITELY works 😂
Good video. I think this pacing makes sense. And I'd love to see it if they focus on Alabasta the complete second half of the season.
I feel same the same way
Thank you so much! 💙 idk why ppl complaining at me why it is 8 episodes... i just work with what we got.
Tbh logue town episode doesn't even have to start from the sea. It can be start when each member of the crew in the middle of something: ussop buying weapon, nami buying clothes, luffy seeing roger's execution place, and zoro buying swords. Using this rule, every episode can be shorter.
What i feel when i read the early grand line saga is more about the chaos that they're experiencing.. Like the unexpected climate, nami suddenly get sick, the crew in the middle of the jurrasic park, getting caught in the middle of civil war, reverse mountain, getting inside the whale, assassins island, etc. If the writer can lean into the chaos aspect, i thing we still get the tone correct.
And also, logue town is a good start. Because it is literally ended up with a total chaos. There is luffy execution, smoker, the storm, dragon, smoker wants to catch luffy but get buggy instead, u name it. They can even make straw hat's crew rush the reverse mountain while getting chased by marine and ended in the laboon's stomach to make everything even more chaotic. It is the perfect introduction to the grand line
Nice!
Yes, actually this is not a problem, because they made it with a type of story in a film format in general like a super hero film...they meet a villain and defeat him..LA is a combined story
I was always thinking: Yes it will work with 8 episodes, but 10 would be so god damn nice
Same! Even 12 would be glorious! Imagine 6 episodes of alabasta greatness
Episode 1 will be called The Beginning And The End
@@CursedCatBus1010 we know that now... this video was posted a week prior
You forgot the fact that they might be adding some things. The whole reason we couldn't get to Loguetown in season 1 was because of the Garp side story. They might do the same thing again. You also have almost every episode adapting more than 15 chapters, when that was the absolute limit for season 1, when so much got cut from season 1 already. And a small thing, you said Alabasta is 222 chapters? 0:47
YES with the 5 Logue Town Chapters!
I agree that they can make the next season with only 8 Episodes, but the is how I see for the next Season (title card)
Ep. 1 Logue Town / Reverse Mt. part 1 (Smoker)
Ep. 2 Reverse Mt. part 2 / Whiskey Peak (Crocus)
Ep. 3 Little Garden (Dorry & Brogy)
Ep. 4 Drum Island part 1 (Wapol)
Ep. 5 Drum Island part 2 (Chopper)
Ep. 6 Alabasta part 1 (Ace)
Ep. 7 Alabasta part 2 (Crocodile)
Ep. 8 Alabasta part 3 (Vivi)
Your concept misses a mid season finale
@@DesnestheDwarf I just never considered a mid season finale but I liked you title names
Ep2 title card will be Laboon. Even veteran op fans barely remember Crocus.
@@djfusionkotb Ok Veteran OP fans definitely remember Crocus. If you were actually a veteran OP fan you would know that Crocus was on Gold rogers crew
@@FieryHornet Crocus is barely rememberable. Let’s get real here folks.
I love how everybody is playing this game in their heads. I wish they accomplish the level of synthesis of episode 1 (this episode has 3 Zoro fights, 2 Luffy fights, a flashback, a prologue and 3 protagonists introduced, without unnecesary cliffhangers). I fear they'll follow the path of Syrup village with many episodes of new plots. There's too many villains in this arc that need to be included because the numbering system but maybe most of them will go the Cabaji route. At the same time the idea of not having the Garp B plot taking time in every episode is hopeful.
In the version I play in my head they do a parallel of first episode with the speech: "This is a world like no other..." and the map turning into Loguetown once more, but this time is Luffy in the execution platform instead of Roger and he says "Sorry, I'm dead!". Cut to title card or "Loguetown: 4 hours earlier" or something like that.
Also the last scene of the season, the emotional "good ending" of course should be the "X" scene, in parallel of the barrel scene. One Piece should always end in celebration (as long as posible).
They could add Robin joining as a "post credit" scene.
Another thing is they used Nami (Nami isn't some tool to be used) as the major enigma that closes the season, introduced since episode 1 as Oda wanted in the manga. Maybe Vivi should be the next character that holds the season together from episode 1 (or 2).
i 100% agree with the nami thing! and the idea of how to open season 2 is genuinely amazing.
@@cwega2463 Thanks! On first season I had 0 expectatives at first and with the news, teasers and cast reveal I was gaining hope. The thing I was fixated on was that if they put Nami as the glue that holds the season they could transform the disparate adventures into a cohesive arc. And they did! Maybe they will do the same again 🤣🙏
i think what matter the most is the total duration. not the total number of episode.
Im happy its 8 episdoes not to say I wish it was 10 but at least we get 8.
(this comment isn’t hate to you, it’s just my opinion on the topic)
my issue with the 8 episode idea again is they already cut out a lot in season one. season one covered 95 chapters of the 100 chapters in the east blue saga, in 8 episodes. that’s an average of 11.8 chapters per episode.
season 2 is not only covering those final 5 chapters of east blue at logue town, but also the 117 chapter alabasta saga (122 chapters total). that’s 27 more chapters than last season. if they covered it in 8 episodes, then that much content within the same amount of screen time just sets a really bad precedent for the series going forward with longer arcs that are coming.
that’s 15.25 chapters per episode, 3 and a half more than the average per episode of last season. but if we have 10 episodes, that’s 12.2 chapters per episode, barely an increase from last season.
plus season one was literally originally billed as a 10 episode season before production started and they filed it back due to budgeting reasons.
this is how i personally would structure the season:
episode 1: logue town and going to reverse mountain and entering the grand line. also part of laboon.
episode 2: leaving laboon and the whole of whisky peak (could easily condensed into 40 minutes in one episode).
episode 3: little garden.
episode 4 and 5: drum island. ending with chopper joining and leaving the island with Vivi feeling better. a solid mid season finale.
episode 5-10: all of alabasta. the saga is 63 chapters long, so 5 episodes would be good. arlong park is 27 chapters and was covered in 2 episodes. so 5 episodes for 63 is around a very similar pace.
and the season can end with them leaving Vivi and being confused why the poneglyph is pointing to the sky.
especially since they are most likely going to expand on Smoker and Tashigi as the B Plot this season to replace Garp; and another C Plot with Ace looking for blackbeard, i think that 10 episodes is suitable.
i personally am just not a fan of the idea that they should go with 8 episodes and end it with drum island.
in your video you use the 74 anime episodes as a baseline to be like “8 anime episode per netflix episode! it’s the same lace as season one!” but that’s simply not true. the manga and anime have completely different pacing. the alabasta saga in the manga (plus logue town) is literally 122 chapters. so using 74 as your example is kinda off based.
also ONE episode is not enough for drum island. that’s rushing it to the MAX.
Try as I might I can only reach the end of drum island with 8 episodes....but I hope you're right
Well i proofed it! So 2hy any doubts?
Ich denke eine Folge sollte mit Ruffy besiegt von Crocodile enden ..richtig dramatisch im Manga ist das auch ein extrem heftiger Moment
I believe to oda, matt and the other crew!
✊
it just feels like the same thing will happen each season like with Konomi Island: originally beloved time spent in important sections of arcs now whittled down to extremely basic key stuff.
Not to mention changing a lot of things for it to work. So: a pretty good Season leading to the finale with anticipation for the end, to then be somewhat disappointed at certain changes.
You know what an adaption is right? Change is garanteed
Watch season 1 of true detective. 8 eps, each 49-1hr10min long, perfect TV run time.
After watching the life action series I watched the anime for the first time, without nostalgia blocking my objectivity I can say that they really fixed the pacing issue from the anime, I agree that some stuff was better in the anime, like the Nami backstory, but those are just details compared with the favor they did by cutting entirely the Don Crieg fight, it was and still is the most boring thing I have watched yet, most of the filler stories are better than that.
Anyway, I believe the Alabasta saga has a lot they can cut, specially the early stuff. I know the live action will never go past a third season, the production would never be able to keep soemthing even remotely close to what the anime or manga shows, there are too many monsters, places, and races that the live action can't handle without breaking the bank.
That being said, I would reaaaaaally love to watch a 4 episode Wano Arch, that shit was way too long for its own good, the entire season would be 4 epiodes for Big mom and 4 apisodes for Kaido, thats it.
Combine drum island and little garden for episode 3&4 following the nami sick development and ending with the cherry blossom
1&2 ends with Robin killing igaram
5,6,7,8 for alabasta
I love your breakdown and can totally understand but in terms of episode cliffhangers I feel this is more dramatic
You R crazy seriously, they R doing Little Garden with Dinosaurs so we ll get giants and Mr 3 has been confirmed as well. Drum Island has to cover whole Cureha and Chopper backstory which is like one of best One piece backstories and one big villian fight. Honestly from everything shown leaked and told it looks like seasson 2 will end with them arriving to Alabasta
You just assumed that they will be faithful and follow the exact sequence of the anime/manga, which obviously wrong if season 1 is anything to go by….
of course they have to change things! i just worked with what we got!
This format only works if there is minimal dialogue, which doesn't seem to be the case in season 1.
Jumping from Logue town, Reverse Mountain, Whale, Little Garden, Drum Kingdom wihin 4 episodes is too fast.
Also the whole aspect of them struggling to navigate grandline, facing sporadic weather conditions/disasters will need to be cut out.
So you lose alot of the threat of the grandline travel, lose the down time on the ship.
I think this season 2 ends on Drum Kingdom.
Logue town-2 episodes
Reverse mountain-2 episodes
Little garden-2 episodes
Drum Kingdom-2 episodes
They eluded during the season 2 netflix promo hints.
Season 1 ending scene showed back of Smoker with him burning Luffy bounty.
Confirming Loguetown
Oda first drew Chopper during season 2 announcement.
Confirming Drum kingdom
Usopp actor in netflix season 2 promo video dropped a hint at Little garden.
There is yet to be any hint season 2 will have Alabasta.
did you see teh video? it prooves that it can be done teh aniem did it in about 40 episodes as well!
@@DesnestheDwarffirst season covered 45 episode. Alabasta+loguetown is like 73 episodes. What are you even talking about
I hope they end the season with ship falling from the sky..sky island teaser keep the suspense
I think it's a real possibility that the 2nd season doesn't actually get to Alabasta and just goes up to Drum Island. Then season 3 will cover Alabasta. The official one piece Netflix page has only hinted at little garden and drum, if they intended on covering Alabasta they might have hinted at it more, or we might have seen casting calls for Alabasta only characters, such as Koza or Pell.
the problem with this is there would be no actual climax for the story of season 2 leaving the season to be very unsatisfying as you are effectively ending the story in the middle of Act 2
@@Callum112001Why is that? Defeating Wapol and recruiting New member with arriving into new land seems like a good end to me
@@danielsmid3777 because Wapol is not the primary antagonist of the Alabasta saga, Crocodile is. You would be ending the story in Act 2 even if it seems like it could be a good ending, the overall plot with baroque works and Vivi would have not satisfying payoff.
They should build up Blackbeard in Drum Island, as Ace is looking for him, Luffy or the crew could mention him.
I absolutely agree. They can do it with 8 episodes. This I've known the writers have proven. They can adapt very well with 8 hours.
But I do wish we had more episodes. So we could really build on this world in the live action. Get to know it better.
I could also agree with some people saying it's just. Gonna seem like being a little rushed. But who knows? Maybe the writers and oda can pull this off and still make this feel. Amazing. Plus 1 other thing I just realized is this would be 8 episodes that we know of but doesn't entirely say what the run time is for each episode. Some episodes could go longer than 1 hour, possibly 🤲 Allah. Stranger things most recent season. All I know for sure is I'm extremely excited. Super hyped. And now that everything's coming out makes it so much more fun again. This is going to be an epic journey on the rl Voyage, 2 season 2.❤
I hope we see Dragon session 2
Off course. In episode 1 logue town
We want 10 EP
Sooo fern Alabasta 4 Episoden bekommt ....dann halte ich es für möglich aber ich glaub man muss halt ne menge rausnehmen aus Drum Island...und trotz allem hätte ich gern die neue side story und neue Elemente
Schau bitt emien video an.. d habe ich es genau erklärt das 8 anime folgen pro 1h netflix folge voll klar geht und mehr is drjm island auch nich
Was confirmed to have more than 8 episodes
No, there is no confirmation, please provide a source
@DesnestheDwarf I saw it through my crystal ball. It never lies.
(I did have a video that covered it but I'm not finding it)
I personally think instead of getting eaten at the end of Episode 1 they will be hurtling toward the bottom of Reverse Mountain and resolve it by Luffy fighting what's at the bottom.
I do think Ep.2 should primarily be Whiskey Peak.
and episode 3 is definitely Little Garden because why not? The main villain is Mr. 3.
With Loguetown 8 episodes is not enough.
Unless they rush it AGAIN..
Did you see the video? I proofed it...
I don't care as long as they do Usopp better than they did in season 1
8 episodes are not enough. It works but it will be rushed and have less impact. No proof was in this video lol
I just work with what we have... also i mentioned it twice in the video that more would be better.. this wasnt even a question
The problem isn't fitting everything in. they did that in season 1. The problem is the constant feeling of being rushed. With your proposed plan we would get exactly the same. Yes we can do it, but it will feel rushed. Characters, their backstories and current actions need time to cook to feel more fulfilling and rewarding. It's doable in 8 but I feel the 2 extra hours could do so much to improve pacing and emotional fulfillment.
But it's a good discussion video.
I get it can be done in 8 episodes.
But i want 9. Just to flesh things out a little more. Like give more breathing space to little garden and drum.
9 is enough
I feel that! And i said it twice in the video.. but it was just about the ppl that claimed it cant be done
For the sake of world building & character development, I would prefer the pacing could be a bit slower. Quantity of chapter adapted not equal to quality of the adaptaton. The arabasta arc & logue town arc are very action & information pack arc compare to East Blue Arc.
Furthermore in term of place setting it will be easy to divide the Arabasta Arc into two season. One primarily travelling between island & other one just focusing on the Desert of Arabasta & beyond.
Based on recent cast calling, it seem they will adapted to Little Garden only, but I hope they will adapted till Drum Island. Little is more.
Episode 1.
Logue town.
Introducing to logue town, smoker, tashigi. Zoro with the 2 sword. Zoro with tashigi. A little slice of life & comedy. The Execution will be the cliffhanger with storm brewing.
Episode 2
Logue town + reverse mountain
The execution failing. Sanji & Zoro help luffy escapes. Zoro fight with Tashigi, Luffy fight with Smoker, while the rest of crew defending merry. Dragon came helping luffy & with his messages. The episodes ends with reverse mountain entrances.
Episode 3
Reverse Mountain + laboon.
The ascend & descending of Reverse Mountain. The crew make a stop to repair the ship & encounter Mr 9 & Mrs Wednesday try to hunt laboon. (I doubted that they will make the whale swallow the ship but I'm really glad if I'm wrong). Then the laboon backstory & introducing the log pose.
Episode 4.
Whiskey Peak
Introducing the grandline world, the weather & the monster. Whiskey peak hospitality. Partying. Zoro showboating. Zoro vs Luffy. Mr. Wednesday & Mr 8 reveal. End with Mr. 8 assasination attempt, & the crew scramble to escape the island just to be warn by Mrs All Sunday.
Episodes 5.
Little Garden
Vivi little backstory, the rebel, the struggle. Arrive at Little Garden. The luffy Adventure. Zoro vs Sanji hunting. The two giant fighting(i hope I'm wrong, but I think they will omitted the character just like Hatchan in Arlong Park). The episodes willl end with Mr 3 & his partner silhouette plotting something.
Episodes 6.
Little Garden
Mr. 3 took action. The Vivi, Zoro, Nami Cake. Luffy vs Mr.3. Usopp & the duck vs Mr.5. Sanji side quest : talk with Mr.0, kill the unluckies & obtaining Arabasta log pose. The farewell to giant. Ended by showing Nami bitten by bug.
Episode 7.
Drum island
Nami sick. The Crisis in Arabasta intensifies. Vivi decision. Blackbeard foreshadowing. Meeting with Chopper. Chopper Backstory.
Episode 8.
Drum Island.
Cure Nami. Luffy Defeat Wapol. Chopper join the crew. Head toward Alabasta. More introduction toward Arabasta. Maybe the season can be end with meeting Mr.2 prior to enter Arabasta.
Exactly I think this is how it will go
If there going through alabasta they'll have:
Loguetown (5 chapters)
Reverse mountain (5)
Whisky peak (9)
Little garden (15)
Drum (25)
Alabasta (63)
122 total
It's a lot season 1 made it to 95 and was well done so they probably will be able to pull something off, but f*CK will alabasta make it differcult
the manga chapters were so long because oif the dialogue... teh anime barely has more episodes than est blue but adds alot more than the manga had
@DesnestheDwarf fair enough i probably should have more faith since they are obviously very capable of making this, im looking forward to it. Season 3 i imagine is clearer to see since it jaya followed by another massive arc, and water 7/enis lobby are definitely enough for after i see the pattern
@@DesnestheDwarfno. excluding filler, the east blue saga is 53 episodes long, and alabasta saga is 74 episodes. 21 more; a significant increase.
@@cwega2463 still they had episodes that covered 12 anime episodes and season 2 would only have episodes that cover 9
@@DesnestheDwarf but using anime episodes is a bad comparison. always go by the manga chapters. i said this in my other comment you didn’t respond to.
You guys are dreaming, we will never reach the end of alabasta in 8 episodes, s1 was 95 chapters for 8 episodes, s 2 would need to cover 122 chapters in the same amount of episodes , and if we are not skipping wapol it’s impossible
You did saw the video? I proofed it
I do think its possible..but 8 eps works much better for Skypiea..they are gonna kill it in S3...only if S2 is a hit though.
If season 2 delivers as season 1 did, then in season 3 Skypiea will be mindblowing and many people will become hooked forever. Can't wait to see Nami making the Merry fly.
According to insider leaks they're filming both season 2 and 3 simultaneously, so we're probably gonna get 16 episodes adapting Alabasta Saga (and maybe Jaya as well.)
That is false information! Please check your sources!
@@DesnestheDwarf Even IGN reported on it, but okay...
@@AndySola thats not a proof of seal, it was proofed that the actor made a mistake there is no such thing officially announced and he read that about AVATAR
8 is too short, that's a fact unless episodes are over a hour. Why can't they do a 5 episode split? First 5 then last 5 the next month like Lincoln Lawyer
Hell yeah im complaining give me the 10
I don't wan't anymore ussop and arlong park's moving foward
Why speedrun the story?? This is a classic case of being so focused if you could do it, you never stop and think if you should do it. 🤷♂️
i am not the one who is judging if we need mroe episodes.. i just proof its possible and more episodes would be better i say that in the video twice!
Alabasta should be 3 episode
Bro nothing is Easssyyyy like you saying !!
They will have to do some really cutting and restiching with flashbacks in between to make this work with still missing whole bunch of stuff which the live action needs !!
And this will have a so so pacing similar to season 1 Live Action.
10 episodes would have been better.
This video is you being optimisitic instead of being realistic!
We as fans including you aren't mad at you saying this is doable but it is not EASY as you make it sound! Ofcourse it is doable but doable doesn't mean that you should do it!
It is not easy!
0:58 S1 is bad as standar
S2 need 12 episode. Is minimum. Netflix makes money from one piece Viewer . rather than spending money on pointless projects. Better Use it for this.
Season 1 was great and the numbers proof it... you shouldnt hate on things just because tehy are different
Honestly I'd prefer if they end season 2 after Drum Island, that way season 3 could be alabasta, jaya and skypiea
We can totally get the 8 episodes for the second season, but things will get rushed especially realtionships between the characters
But seeing what they did between zeff and Sanji I have faith that they will do something good
i dont feel that way.. the realtionships between characters were fleshed out in season 1 more than in the anime... so why with the same pacing should it affect s2?
Also davon halte ich auch recht wenig die 1. Staffel kam so gut an da hätte ich schon erwartet das Netflix seiner neuen großen Cashcow .. mindestens 12 Folgen einräumt
Darum gehts doch hier gar nicht oder?
@@DesnestheDwarf SCHEISE LEDERHOSEN SPRECHEN SIE DEUTSCH!
No its not
The more episodes are being made..the more expensive it'll be for Netflix of course..so I think 8 episodes are enough.
Sieh mal ich WILL kein hater sein aber ich denke wirklich das es mehr hätte sein müssen
und was hat das mit mir oder dem video zu tun? ich hab nur mit dem gearbeitet was wir bekommen haben...
I don't agree with you for Little Garden being half an episode, Little Garden needs complete episode and Drum Island needs at least two episodes to reach a satisfactory climax. My prediction is-
Episode 1: Logue town
Episode 2: Reverse Mountain
Episode 3: Whiskey Peak
Episode 4: Little Garden
Episode 5: Drum Island 1
Episode 6: Drum Island 2
Episode 7: Alabasta 1
Episode 8: Alabasta 2
Alabasta in 2 episode can be perfectly done, in the anime they waste so much time visiting Nanohana and Doing side quests that really doesn't matter. I don't think Ace will have any significant role, he will come and leave just like Mihawk did in baratie arc
I have two little garden episodes actually... did you saw the video?
Drum siland as well.. they both had two episodes in the video
I don't think we need 1 whole episode for Reverse Mountain. You can split the Reverse Mountain arc from the ending of episode 1 and start of episode 2, then the rest of episode 2 is Whiskey Peak. Loguetown would be also much shorter here in the LA because unlike the source material, Smoker already knew what Luffy look like as shown in the end of season 1. So here is my format:
#1 - Loguetown + Reverse Mountain (ending at a cliffhanger showing a big whale)
#2 - Rest of Reverse Mountain (Twin Capes) + Whiskey Peak
#3 - Little Garden
#4 to #5 - Drum Island
#6 to #8 - Alabasta
Little Garden on episode 3 would be a cool concept because of the main villain. Like when they will make the "One Piece" title opening themed to Mr. 3, then why not put that arc in episode 3?
@@second1387 They are building the Rumbar Pirates' ship for a reason. I am sure that they will show the interactions between Brooke, Laboon and Captain Workie pretty early. It will also increase the impact of seeing brooke again in the future seasons. It will not spoil Brooke's identity because Brooke will be skeleton in the future seasons and they can easily change the actor in the future.
It's impossible to show the backstory and Laboon Luffy bonding in half of episode
@@DesnestheDwarf Oh sorry I didn't pay much attention
The question is what do you prefer ?! 😂 quality or quantity. Because this means that the budget which is probably 150 millions $ will have to be spread over 10 and not 8 episodes.
I would prefer 12 episode sbut thats not what this video is about.. i jusg figured it out with what we got
@@DesnestheDwarf Yeah I know, I said that for people who complains to haven't 10 episodes. Like you said in the video they totally can make Alabasta Saga in 8 episodes and Sets and VFX would be better.
Right now, my theory is that Season 2 will end at Drum Kingdom and Alabasta will be the focus of Season 3. But I guess we'll have to wait and see.
They wont stop halfwa, when they planned 7 season ip to timeskip
On one hand would be great if they have that much room for developing the characters and plots. But on the other hand Vivi's arc would be unfinished, and I feel Vivi should had the Nami treatment this season: beign the character that drives the arc.
@@Yungblut to be fair if the rumors are true and they are filming seasons 2 and 3 right after each other, they might be able to release season 3 alot sooner than expected while still giving them plenty of time to get started on skypeia at that point. In this case it might nkt be too bad to end at drum kingdom in season 2.
this sounds good but i still think theyre ending at drum island
No way. They need a big bad like Arlong was last season and the Baroque Works storyline can't last too long so it's all happening this season or else Season 3 will feel weird and will also get split up. I would hate it if they ended at Drum Island not gonna lie.
40 anime episodes into 8 netflix episodes? no way!
@@DesnestheDwarf only saying this because major characters like crocodile and even ace have not been on casting calls, but then again theyre probably keeping it a secret.
Sorry this is going to feel rushed and ruin it
Ppl still have no faith in oda or matt owens... its just sad
@@DesnestheDwarf just saying