I've known about the bands Dillinger and The Hunt since the early 1990's. Got all their albums on original vinyl LP. As a very high-end record collector for the past 46 years, I specialize in rare and obscure psychedelic, progressive and hardrock groups from the 1970s. I appreciate you guys for letting people know about these lost and forgotten gems.
Very cool I've known to Dillinger but I didn't learn to them until the mid-90s when I started trucking across Canada.🚛☕🤠 That's when I also learned of the headpins, Max Webster.
Maybe weird but although I do like both Dillinger & The Hunt I just never really connected with Max Webster. I know many here on SoT have commented on them. I do have 6 of their albums and the live one plus A Million Vacations (to me easily their best) are good. But overall I maybe like enough tracks to make up a single cd Best Of
4 great albums, plus the collections Footprints The Best Of A Foot In Coldwater Vol. 1 & 2 are good. I'd rank 'em: 1. All Around Us 2. 3 way tie: S/T, The Second & Breaking Through Honestly the space between #1 & #2 is paper-thin. VERY consistently good band!
From Quebec/Ontario, related as noted to bands The Hunt and also Brass Union. That latter late 60's band played horn-based rock. No albums to speak of (a couple of clips on YT) but some of its members go on to play in: Privilege (good s/t 1973 album), Streetheart (pretty good AOR but could've used a bit better singer IMO-1980's Quicksand Shoes & the 1982 s/t are good plus a couple of good live records), Young (an early 70's jazz/rock outfit with one album called Business from '71 that I'm still tracking down), Harlequin, and Just-If-I (1993's All One People featuring Neal Schon). Plus Loverboy. For Dillinger, I like their 2nd one (Don't Lie To The Band) more, to me in line with 1980's Back On The Hunt. The debut has a slowed-down cover of the classic Spirit tune "Nature's Way" (what a great song!) that doesn't quite work for me, the opening two tracks are good. The last track "Live and Return" is a strange one (for me) - over 17 minutes including 4+ minute drum thing that I could frankly do without. There are interesting sections - like the first 5 minutes or so & some of the middle section - but overall this one seems like it's different song ideas pasted together. Overall it just doesn't grab me enough, I think if they'd gone with 3 or even 4 shorter numbers in the style of "People"/"City Man" this album would've been the 'winner'. So I totally agree with Grant's assessment of this track 'totally derailing' the album... From Don't Lie To The Band I like every track except when they try their hand at another cover - The Beatles' "Taxman" ( the Spooky Tooth cover "Two Time Love" does work)...TBH I have these guys labeled as "Rock" in my music database not prog - there are definitely (sometimes strong) prog vibes/arrangements with jazz references but overall I still think their music's more along the (hard) rock vein with saxes/flutes... Ranking: 1. Don't Lie To The Band (could've been 'perfect' if not for the Beatles cover) 2. S/T Debut (if only it wasn't for the opus "Live and Return" & the sub-standard Spirit cover - Pete's 'throwaway' tune)
You both are great! What about ranking the Joe Lynn Turner solo albums? His pre-Rainbow band, Fandango, is also worthwhile chacking out if you like good yacht rock from the 70's!
I have 4 Fandago albums: S/T, Last Kiss, One Night Stand & Cadillac. I'd rank 'em: 1. Last Kiss 2, Fandango & Cadillac 3. One Night Stand Ties to an even better band = Mother's Army (3 great albums), a supergroup with Jeff Watson, Bob Daisley and Carmine Appice/Aynsley Dunbar. And Joseph Arthur Mark Linquito (aka Joe Lynn Turner)
Guess I am just the opposite on this one… I much prefer the first Dillinger album to the second. The strength of the album is the great guitar work. Natures Way is ok with the female vocals but could have been cooler if some sort of large duel guitar soloing would have been added. I think the guitar work is very very good on this albums longer songs. Second album, I think loses the positive of the best thing about the band. The guitar extended soloing. First sounds a bit like Montrose, but really goes nowhere. And that ton and a half of reverb vocals that are recessed with the organ blaring over it does the song no favors. I agree that the best of the rest of the songs is “Munchkin Men” but the entire album never really takes off from its attempt to Yes syncopate and barely passable repeated riffs. The “Taxman” cover is one of the absolute worst Beatles covers ever. Horrible lol. I can see why this was the end of the line for this band. Not a terrible album but not a step up imo. Too much organ and not enough soloing
Demonstrates how we all hear things differently - I like their "Taxman" well enough & dislike "Nature's Way" (the slower tempo doesn't work for me)...Best covers of Taxman that I've heard: Carl Verheyen (on Trading 8S), Infinity (from Looking Through A Glass Onion: The Beatles Psychedelic Songbook 1966-72), Steve Lukather/Doug Pinnick (from Butchering The Beatles: A Headbashing Tribute - smokin' guitars!), Yellow Matter Custard (from One More Night In New York City - this is the Mike Portnoy/Paul Gilbert/Kasim Sulton/Neal Morse Beatles tribute band)...Jack Blades does a nice cover of "Nature's Way" on his s/t 2004 album (and it's at the proper speed)
Man I was excited. I thought this was going to be The Dillinger Escape Plan. Lol
For some reason I got the name confused in my head with Derringer so I thought it was gonna be that.
The important question to ask is if this band had an escape plan too.
@@antonnee Lmao 🤣😂
@@dsallen7914 That would also be a great show!
I've known about the bands Dillinger and The Hunt since the early 1990's. Got all their albums on original vinyl LP. As a very high-end record collector for the past 46 years, I specialize in rare and obscure psychedelic, progressive and hardrock groups from the 1970s. I appreciate you guys for letting people know about these lost and forgotten gems.
Loved the hunt , I'll be checking these guys out . Thanks Pete and Grant 👍
Got both Dillinger CD's and all of the Hunt disc's...great bands great music.
Very cool I've known to Dillinger but I didn't learn to them until the mid-90s when I started trucking across Canada.🚛☕🤠
That's when I also learned of the headpins, Max Webster.
Maybe weird but although I do like both Dillinger & The Hunt I just never really connected with Max Webster. I know many here on SoT have commented on them. I do have 6 of their albums and the live one plus A Million Vacations (to me easily their best) are good. But overall I maybe like enough tracks to make up a single cd Best Of
Never heard of Dillinger or the hunt, time for a deep dive
I have these 2 on CD. Good album's, I reviewed some time ago.
Perhaps....you guys can revisit the A FOOT IN COLDWATER catalogue!?
4 great albums, plus the collections Footprints The Best Of A Foot In Coldwater Vol. 1 & 2 are good. I'd rank 'em:
1. All Around Us
2. 3 way tie: S/T, The Second & Breaking Through
Honestly the space between #1 & #2 is paper-thin. VERY consistently good band!
From Quebec/Ontario, related as noted to bands The Hunt and also Brass Union. That latter late 60's band played horn-based rock. No albums to speak of (a couple of clips on YT) but some of its members go on to play in: Privilege (good s/t 1973 album), Streetheart (pretty good AOR but could've used a bit better singer IMO-1980's Quicksand Shoes & the 1982 s/t are good plus a couple of good live records), Young (an early 70's jazz/rock outfit with one album called Business from '71 that I'm still tracking down), Harlequin, and Just-If-I (1993's All One People featuring Neal Schon). Plus Loverboy.
For Dillinger, I like their 2nd one (Don't Lie To The Band) more, to me in line with 1980's Back On The Hunt. The debut has a slowed-down cover of the classic Spirit tune "Nature's Way" (what a great song!) that doesn't quite work for me, the opening two tracks are good. The last track "Live and Return" is a strange one (for me) - over 17 minutes including 4+ minute drum thing that I could frankly do without. There are interesting sections - like the first 5 minutes or so & some of the middle section - but overall this one seems like it's different song ideas pasted together. Overall it just doesn't grab me enough, I think if they'd gone with 3 or even 4 shorter numbers in the style of "People"/"City Man" this album would've been the 'winner'. So I totally agree with Grant's assessment of this track 'totally derailing' the album...
From Don't Lie To The Band I like every track except when they try their hand at another cover - The Beatles' "Taxman" ( the Spooky Tooth cover "Two Time Love" does work)...TBH I have these guys labeled as "Rock" in my music database not prog - there are definitely (sometimes strong) prog vibes/arrangements with jazz references but overall I still think their music's more along the (hard) rock vein with saxes/flutes...
Ranking:
1. Don't Lie To The Band (could've been 'perfect' if not for the Beatles cover)
2. S/T Debut (if only it wasn't for the opus "Live and Return" & the sub-standard Spirit cover - Pete's 'throwaway' tune)
Good show guys, I'll have to check these guys out!
Hello I'M Jacques Harrisson still Alive, Founder of' Dillinger 'and Change the Name to 'The Hunt' How Can I reach you Guy's for more Information?
Loved The Hunt-episode. Very curious to see this one.
You both are great! What about ranking the Joe Lynn Turner solo albums? His pre-Rainbow band, Fandango, is also worthwhile chacking out if you like good yacht rock from the 70's!
I have 4 Fandago albums: S/T, Last Kiss, One Night Stand & Cadillac. I'd rank 'em:
1. Last Kiss
2, Fandango & Cadillac
3. One Night Stand
Ties to an even better band = Mother's Army (3 great albums), a supergroup with Jeff Watson, Bob Daisley and Carmine Appice/Aynsley Dunbar. And Joseph Arthur Mark Linquito (aka Joe Lynn Turner)
@@wolf1977 great! tehy are good album indeed! I hope Pete and Grant will rank them someday. :)
Guess I am just the opposite on this one…
I much prefer the first Dillinger album to the second. The strength of the album is the great guitar work. Natures Way is ok with the female vocals but could have been cooler if some sort of large duel guitar soloing would have been added. I think the guitar work is very very good on this albums longer songs.
Second album, I think loses the positive of the best thing about the band. The guitar extended soloing. First sounds a bit like Montrose, but really goes nowhere. And that ton and a half of reverb vocals that are recessed with the organ blaring over it does the song no favors.
I agree that the best of the rest of the songs is “Munchkin Men” but the entire album never really takes off from its attempt to Yes syncopate and barely passable repeated riffs.
The “Taxman” cover is one of the absolute worst Beatles covers ever. Horrible lol. I can see why this was the end of the line for this band.
Not a terrible album but not a step up imo. Too much organ and not enough soloing
Demonstrates how we all hear things differently - I like their "Taxman" well enough & dislike "Nature's Way" (the slower tempo doesn't work for me)...Best covers of Taxman that I've heard: Carl Verheyen (on Trading 8S), Infinity (from Looking Through A Glass Onion: The Beatles Psychedelic Songbook 1966-72), Steve Lukather/Doug Pinnick (from Butchering The Beatles: A Headbashing Tribute - smokin' guitars!), Yellow Matter Custard (from One More Night In New York City - this is the Mike Portnoy/Paul Gilbert/Kasim Sulton/Neal Morse Beatles tribute band)...Jack Blades does a nice cover of "Nature's Way" on his s/t 2004 album (and it's at the proper speed)
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