DF Retro Extra: Sony at E3 2006 - PlayStation 3's Darkest Hour Revisited
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- Join John, Alex and Rich for a DF Retro Extra, as the team re-examines the darkest hour for the PlayStation 3 - the legendary E3 2006 media briefing. Yes, it's the one with Riiiidge Racer, real-time weapons change, the giant enemy crab and of course MASSIVE DAMAGE.
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42:15
Richard: "Maybe we should do a video on the PS3 1080p dream. Chart it through the years, and how it all went pear shaped."
John: "That's a good idea, actually."
Three and a half years later...
Love that
Wow, how has it been 2 years since those videos already? That was an amazing and fascinating series.
I love how John and Alex have encyclopaedic knowledge of the graphics settings of every game ever
it is impressive. but also, they do this for living.
John's memory of all these obscure launch titles is seriously impressive.
Yeah, they put my “gamer knowledge” to shame. I feel like I know more than the average video game player but it serious pales in comparison. Then again, I don’t do it for profession. Even then, very impressive.
John is like a video game bank vault of knowledge .
Some say that the Gran Turismo HD demo is still running to this very day.
Woot woot I saw good Charlotte 2 weeks ago in Vienna!
I survived the E3 2006 Gran Turismo presentation in 2019
yea...
Will you be making the t-shirts with the "I survived..." print? :) :)
Me too
TheMadPolarBear same here.
I cheated and tabbed over to r/pcgaming
46:23 Riiiidge Racer!
55:29 giant enemy crab
1:48:27 price unveil
No, it was
RIIIIDDDDGGGEEEEEEE RACERRRRRRRRRR!
😂😂😂😂😂
Come on, not labeling the price unveil timestamp as "five hundred ninety nine U.S. dollars" is just breaking the meme flow!
I never understood the Kaz Ridge Racer meme, it's just a bit funny, there are for more cringeworthy stuff on E3 presentations every year than that.
@@Meneldil Just that fact that he just repeated it out of nowhere with so much gusto yet so little fanfare makes it unintentionally hilarious. "RIIIIDGE RAAACERRRR!!! Remember that one?" lmao
50:44 "Look at that rack!" timed perfectly with a revealing picture of Beyonce.
Right
Beyonces rack is pretty mediocer if you compare
I survived the whole thing, just like the Japanese survived actual giant crabs in battles that actually took place
Hit the weak point for massive damage
Absolutely love when you guys go back and look at these presentations. Watching it by myself is quite boring indeed, but your commentary make it so much more enjoyable to watch.
Digital Foundry Theater 3000
yeah, did it tonite.. brrrring
I could watch them without commentary, but it is more interesting if they bring up topics and speak their minds. At times they also have some interesting backstories or details to tell. - It definitely adds some value spending time on these long presentations. - I must admit that I often watch these at a bit higher playback speed, though... It's funny, cause at about 1.20x it looks like the games are performing amazingly well. Doesn't help that sometimes I forget it's sped up and I actually believe I'm seeing games run at about 60fps, which... no way.
@@andersask5503 yiuiyiyiyiiiiyi
I never would have known about the 8 SPU story had they not mentioned it. Hilarious.
Kaz aged like 20 years, 2 years into being CEO of Sony
55:27
"So here's this giant enemy crab"
The laughter afterwards made my day
8:15 “PSP Ain’t got SHEEEEEEEEEIIIITT on the PS triple!” John’s true personality comes out here. I never thought I’d hear John cuss.
He did again when doing the Sonic 06 video
Holy cow. Two hours of Digital Foundry goodness to chill out to. Thanks guys!
Grab your coffee and your vape.
Wish they spend that time doing the halo master chief collection
This was my exact thought when I saw this video pop up. Put it on while I work and I don't have to slog through youtube for more good content every 20 minutes.
Tiger Woods: "YES! ...Oh-ho ho, sweet!"
Daniel yup mate. I’m listening to this rn while I’m farming XP in the Sand Dunes of Tantoine in KOTOR 1...
These are the type of mistakes companies make when they believe they have no competition.
Sony learned from it. Hopfully PS5 will be backward compatible.
@@briarwolverine9316 It's very likely that it's at least going to have ps4 compatibility.
@@miko5167 emulating PS3 is the real challenge.
And Microsoft followed suit with the xbone
What about konami 2010?😂🤣
I survived the e3 gran turismo presentation in 2021
Edit: im surviving it again at the end of 2022.
And I'm surviving it in January of 2023
I survived the E3 2006 Gran Turismo presentation in 2023
Congratulations on the 50th DF Retro. Here's to 50 more.
Spyro the dragon retro
I find it odd calling this retro, PS3 wasn't that long ago.
@@arbiter- well in a short time it will be 2 generations old.
@@arbiter- that's because of how long that gen lasted
I survived the E3 2006 Gran Turismo HD presentation in 2019!
They kept referring to it as a "computer" and saying "computer entertainment" as to bypass certain country region laws where "gaming consoles" were strictly prohibited and Sony couldn't enter that market to sell, hence the reason Sony had linux installed on the ps3 for a while... I forget which country or countries, but yes, that happened...
IIRC South Korea had such laws, but I'm not sure if they were in place in 2006
Sony also tried to claim the PS2 was a computer so they didn't have to pay the video game console import tax in Europe. They released some software programming tools on demo discs to "prove" that it wasn't a game console. It didn't work but the EU ended up getting rid of the console tax anyway.
Mgs4 install situation made me quit quitting cigarettes one time.
Snake smoked during the install times, so did I
PS Tripple, Trey 4 Live, the memes go on and on, what a fantastic era that was.
i miss chad warden
[Creepy Silent Hill music plays in the background]
Lol
I just had flashbacks to the chadwarden meme and all the videos taking the piss out of him. Armake21 had one of the best.
Elpresador trey brotherhood
This is the second funniest retro e3 DF commentary, right after the wii u one. I wish you guys did more because this series are incredibly fun to watch.
Please, make more of these commentaries on past presentations and E3s, it’s so enjoyable to watch/listen to them while guided by your expert insights. Truly great to have these videos by DF!!!!! Please more!
Oh man. Giant Enemy Crabs, Massive Damage, Riiiidge Racer, $599 US dollars. Great fun reliving this meme generator of a conference with you guys. The Chad Warden references too... 10/10 DF video.
“This is based on actual Japanese history”
“This is an actual battle that took place in Japan”
“...”
“So here’s this giant enemy crab!” “Massive damage”
Its the crab that fought Godzilla in 1979 so its Japanese history
Sucker Punch with Ghost of Tsushima:
"We're trying to be as authentic and respectful to history as possible."
"So anyway, here's this giant enemy crab..."
FIVE HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS!!!
1:05:03 Richard is a low key savage and I love it
“MGS4 was probably made on a Frankenstein engine.”
I remember being excited until the price was revealed back then. Months later Gamestop had a used ps3 for sale and the associate wasn't sure if it was the 20gb or 60gb model. One way to tell the diffence was the 60gb model had the disc area chrome. Right off the bat I said 20gb and they sold me the 60gb model for 400. Fun time back then.
That associate is stupid Lol
It was pretty obvious which one was the 60gb and 20gb. First one was all blacked out and dull looking and the other had chrome touches. If I remember even the boxes were very different too, that associate was probably that shift lol
*Giant*
*Enemy*
*Crab*
M A S S I V E D A M A G E
Mega0003000 historically accurate
I spilled my beer.
Historically accurate Giant Enemy Crab.
Rip genji 2 :(
46:13 I love how excited they are. This is how you tell DF is definitely genuine.
I survived the 2006 E3 Gran Turismo presentation in 2020
"NFS Carbon was TERRIBLE"
Why you hurt my feelings, John?
I'm offended lmao
Yeah wtf? It was not terrible it was a great game !
@@kriskater it was if you had played MW
@@ghulampirzada9983 I loved both ! 😶 but most wanted is definitely superior
Ikr
Guys,love the format where you three discuss about gaming in general...make this a series where you discuss every e3 conference from 2006- till now ,every week...this will make my Sunday even better..
Not even asking it in a polite way lol, your ego seems pretty big
@@arshenio45 wow you are a little snowflake.aren't you?if you would have wiped that eyes of yours and read my comment like a sane person,you would've realised its a fairly normal comment. polite?my ego is big? wow !how old are you?
This went downhill fast, god.
I survived the E3 2006 Gran Turismo presentation in 2020.
Please keep going back to infamous E3 presentations! They're great fun!
I've survived the whole video! Where's my $599 Playstation Triple?
I survived the E3 2006 Gran Tourismo HD demo in 2022.
This presentation gives me the same feeling I get when I don't prepare well enough for a presentation at work. I'm surprised they didn't show a PowerPoint presentation with a wall of text.
Still got my original launch model and my free Blu-ray of casino royal,still works.
No,it’s the same as when I bought it,I blow it out once every couple of months with the same electric air blower I use on my pc.I don’t play it much as I have a good gaming pc but I still play it at least once a month and still got about 80 games for it,never bothered getting a PS4.
Had to replace the laser unit on my 2008 CECHG twice but beside that it works just fine.
Still have mine too. Not a launch model but a 2008 one. It's still my main bluray player.
@@michaelpegasiou4531 It CAN'T be the same. Your thermal paste must be as crusty as a Cheeto piece. My PS3 Slim's not as old and it's WAY louder than when I bought it in 2014.
Immense Data haha,well it is still as quiet playing the launch titles like resistance and ridge racer 7 but is louder when playing games like the last of us which push it harder.I reckon the paste is fine even fresh paste goes crusty feeling after a relatively short while but it still does its job.Plenty of hot air blows out the back so it’s doing its job I’m sure.Always have it on its side on a high shelf with loads of air all around it plus I live in the uk so only really hot here in summer and then I don’t use it.
I love these early PlayStation reveals, especially when Rich is involved, because he is SASSY (and rightfully so).
MGS4 was eventually patched so all the chapter installs could be done at once. I believe it was the same patch that removed MGO functionality. the MGS4 version that was part of the MGS Legacy collection had this update on disk.
I survived the E3 2006 Gran Turismo HD presentation in 2023
John Lineman is so relatable I have some of the same memories as him I love these E3 take
backs.
Shortly to be followed by DF Retro Extra: Microsoft at E3 2013 ~ XBoxOne’s Darkest Hour Revisited
More like Xbox's darkest hour. Xbox had no problem before the Xbox One reveal.
Dom S there were problems to be sure: red ring of death, anyone?
should've done wii u first to maintain chronological order
@@Poever which was quickly fixed with the 360 elite. The red ring of death didn't effect 360 sales either. Xbox one had no colling issues, runs silent, but still struggled in sales. Not same issues actually.
Dom S ah yes an Xbox apologists ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).
I survived the GT presentation in 2023… and it just kept getting worse after that. This was a rough one to watch compared to the other revisits you have done.
I survived the Gran Turismo HD demo of Sony's conference 2006
*in 2019.
>PS3 = retro.
I'll have to cope with my mortality now...
You'd be surprised.
I'm still trying to adapt to that fact.
ps4 will be a retro console very soon
@@randyrrs7028 for me even the ps2 is not retro!
@DejaVoodooDoll Jeeeeez that really puts things into perspective
@DejaVoodooDoll Stop, please.
I survived the Sony E3 2006 Grand Tourismo HD Demo in 2022!
This actually came on from some sort of shuffle or auto play, but I watched the whole thing and I loved it. John, Alex and Richard you guys do a phenomenal job keeping this presentation informative and lively. It’s 3:30 am and I had a blast. Thanks again for all your hard work on these videos.
This era wowed me going from 480p to 720p gaming.
"real-time weapon change" I also remember this one. What a great feature that's only possible on our powerful ps3? It's like... the presenter never played a game or don't know how game is made...
This upload kept me up from midnight until 2am Monday. And I had work in the morning. I hope you're reeaal proud of yourselfs DF, reeaal proud.
I kind of love Phil Harrison's deadpan delivery, it's somehow comforting.
I love you guys! An absolutely epic 2 hours :).
Only you can make something so painful so entertaining?
TBH, Uncharted 2 actually managed to do the best of the Eight Days demo and ended up looking much better than that fakery.
Well done Naughty Dog.
TechRyze yeah. I thought the same thing too.
That original 8 days tech demo from 2005 looks like the weird CGI cutscenes in Sonic Adventure
Hit its weak point for MASSIVE DAMAGE.
The greatest conference ever. If there's one thing I'll miss about E3 (when it eventually dies), are meme factories like this :(
Individual publishers will find a way to keep the cringe train rolling on their own, I'm confident
Bobert Daniels Ubisoft already did imo, that black guy during that shit ubisoft forward was doing a little bit too much
Fell asleep with RUclips on auto play and woke up to this video with only 15 mins left 😂
Wow I remember the rear view mirror PSP thinking how amazing that would be
21:10 Xbox 360 actually supported natively 1360x768 via VGA and HDMI.
Some of the early models didn't have an HDMI port I believe
Wasn't pretty much everything 720p? Even the dashboard was 720p. Some games supported 1080p thou.
I love these “deep dive” hour-long videos. Keep it up!
"I wonder what it looks like on PS5".
It looks amazing... and they still managed to fuck it up :(
I love these long form videos with all of you guys, hope there is more coming.
And I just wanna say, Folklore really is an amazing game and it holds up quite well these days, even the sixaxis is implemented well and genuinely punctuates the combat in a positive way.
Still surprised how they even made best GTA5 pastgen version and exclusives graphics with PS3's 256 MB of operative and video memory. This is some kind of top tier optimisation.
DF team, you need to revisit all PS3 exclusives again in video format. God, I still remember how did I read your and lensoftruth articles back in 2009-2012.
girlwithturn GTA V is indeed a technical marvel for what they managed to achieve on the X360/PS3.
Yeah, I still remember when I first booted up GTA 5 on PS3 and literally couldn't believe my eyes, it was like next gen has come already, lol. Rockstar games are definitely some kind of wizards
They really wrung all the performance they could from both consoles at end of life. Impressive.
Just picturing a DF retro review of Motorstorm and those insane visuals.
Rares Macovei well, they simply took out all the physics, artificial intelligence, and simulation system from GTA4 and amped up the graphics.
Digital Foundry , a small correction at 27:38. Tekken: Dark Resurrection was originally a PSP title only before it got a HD release for PS3.
I survived the E3 2006 Gran Turismo HD presentation in 2020!
I survived the E3 2006 Gran Tourismo HD presentation in 2021
I survived the E3 2006 Gran Turismo HD presentation in 2019 :D
What about that ps triple.
We survived the E3 2006 Gran Turismo presentation in 2023.
here in Brazil the PS2 was THE CONSOLE until 2009, after 2009 was a mix between 360 and PS2, this only will change on 2012/13 when ppl started to migrate to PS3/360 for real, on the end of the generation. PS4/Xone started to be mainstream early than the past generations, on 2015/16 PS4/Xone became mainstream here. For this new gen PS5/SeriesX i think will be slower to become mainstream, shortage and price is a problem. But looks like this machines is selling well here bcs on the same hour they restock the stores sell all unities.
My friend bought the $600 ps3 while I still had a ps2 and he let me borrow it. I thought being able to play my ps2 games on it was the best thing ever at time.
Well, that is a cool feature. I hope they bring it back with PS5
Well some would argue it still is (its best feature). Ps2 games through hdmi on original hardware was a massive selling point. A shame they ditched it so swiftly in favour of lousy emulation
teehundeart Cost too much they need the Cell for PS3 backwards compatibility.
Why did u not just play ur ps2 and why did he buy something for 600$ and borrow it to you?
Goddamn 2006 was quite a year. And I'm feeling quite old now at 31 years. Thanks Digital Foundry >:(
I survived E3 2006 Gran turismo HD presentation in 2019
42:15 - And you guys did started on that series this year in 2022! Appropriately named like it was suggested here! The 1080P Dream! 😀
I kinda want a rack mount PS3
i just want a launch model PS3 that actually works =/
@@acidreighn Yeah it had everything and full PS2 backwards compatibility but the design wasn't efficient at all and was prone to over heat. I had one years ago and it died on me. Got it used too off ebay which is probably where I messed up with it.
@@LoneTaurus82 Still have my launch PS3. Only thing that has ever failed is the harddrive. That was replaced about 10 years ago and I don't think it's ever overheated. It's never shut itself off due to heat, i know that for sure.
I have a launch model.
@@ezicarus8216 😂
Ever since I found this plethora of Retro videos, Digital Foundry is my favorite RUclips channel.
Just shows how much competition there is and how blind a company can be when they dominate for a while, very curious to see what next generation of consoles will bring.
This presentation was a disaster! I laughed out loud so many times along with you guys over the course of it. The PS3 obviously ended up being a great system, but boy was it rough in the lead up to it and post-launch. If it hasn't been done yet, I'd love to see one of Microsoft's conference leading up to the 360 (and the one you mentioned here, the same year the PS3 launched).
How did it end up being a great system? I own one for the cheap online downloads form the PSN Japan store of games that sell physical for $300+, but the console itself (especially at launch) was complete rubbish.
I'm serious here, prove me wrong. How was this console even decent?
@@darinherrick9224 The games. Period.
@@darinherrick9224 let me get this straight (I’m reading between all the lines), you have a PS3 console only because you perceive it’s library of digital, esoteric PS1 games to be an efficient alternative investment to their expensive physical copies? No other option occurred to you?
Is it any wonder you don’t grasp why anyone would enjoy the platform itself with a mentality *that* out of touch?
I survived the E3 2006 Gran Turismo presentation in 2020, during quarantine!
I loved the idea of "Photo Mode: The Game" when they showed it. I never got around to it, but I do remember seeing this. - The unfortunate part today is, it wouldn't look good enough to be a game based on visuals, as in creating pictures. - I mean, you'd better have the best of the best graphics to make it ABOUT creating pictures, as Photo Mode in full-fledged games is of course just extra stuff to do and perhaps also appreciate the visuals. - But to have just about that, it should look really interesting or also have interesting additional features that make it interesting. Like upgrading your gear or unlocking locations. Heck, make it kind of like real life that you have to sell your pictures and make money to travel farther or something. - It would almost be like one of those hunting games, but then not about murder.
God, I remember watching all these E3s live, holy shit the memories
I want a Heavenly Sword remake so bad. Especially w/ God of War's reboot - not enough games like that anymore
Facts!!!
Personally,
I just want "Heavenly Sword [Remastered]". And a "[New] Heavenly Sword II".
And "Heavy Rain 2 +Heavy Rain 2 [Move Edition]", while they're at it...
🤔 Hmm..., then, I also want "Singularity 2" & "Vanquish 2". 😁
@Sonic Sadly I have to agree. What really let it down was the severe lack of replay value coupled with the somewhat forgettable store line. Shame too as it has killer production values and the visuals at the time were second to none.
Even if it got a remake in the future they really need to add a bunch of content to make the package seem meaty
game sucked lmao
@@hameed lmoa wt a noob
U should do a Gran Turimo DF Retro! (I will personally vouch for GT4)
DisamerdScroll I agree, especially after the demo they showed on the rally track that was missing all the high-bandwidth alpha textures for the dirt.
DisamerdScroll Even though GT4 is my favorite game and GT, i never liked the undersaturated look of some tracks in the game. Maybe John could explain why. Always felt GT3 looked better, color saturation wise
Stacked deck7 To me it GT4 looks more realistic than GT3 which to me looks like a arcade game :D
I survived the E3 2006 Gran Turismo HD Presentation in 2019!
That PS Triple, baby. 08:14 😂 Chad Warden alllll day.
Say it in Dunkey voice
I survived the E3 2006 Gran Turismo presentation in 2019 en España.
Un abrazo y me encanta vuestro trabajo.
I survived the harrowing E3 2006 Gran Turismo HD presentation in 2023.
When you said " look at that rack " I thought you were talking about the destinys child.
Gamespot had loads of 1080p video of this stuff for download from 2005 onwards.
Any chance you could 'borrow' some of their footage for these videos?
Having Chadwarden at the end of the video is the icing on the cake for this video!
I survived the E3 2006 Gran Turismo HD presentation in 2024!
There were times when it felt I was watching an episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000 with John, Alex and Rich riffing on Sony's presentation. The question is who was playing Tom Servo and who was Crow?
As much of a mess that the PS3 initially was, it turned out to be one of the greatest entertainment devices of all time. That was a lot of fun back then, being a Sony gamer. I feel like it was 2010 were they really started to turn the corner and show off what the PS3 was capable of. I like long console generations, didn't bother me one bit sticking with the PS3 for so long.
2008* with LittleBigPlanet
"that piano black finish they went for with the pseudo-transparent look, it's a scratch and fingerprint magnet"
oh, know that very well.
and they continued the trend with the launch ps4 too.
But only on half the console to cut the fingerprints down in half.
Phil was like "I'm so excited... kill me now"
11:48 I miss old Sony when it was older Japanese guys in charge but that all changed once Naughty Dog and other western devs at Sony completely out shined anything Sony Japan Studio could produce, then Sony moved their headquarters from Tokyo to California and that was it!
Watching the demo of Warhawk and seeing the single player campaign with those aerial battleships was amazing back in 2006 and then all of that got taken out and it was only a multiplayer game...that was a huge letdown for me. The game was still great but I wanted the single player so bad
The current sony is fucking amazing, what the fuck were you Even on about?
@@Fafnir2000 I still prefer PS2 and early PS3 Sony when it was led by Japanese.
These presentation videos are my absolute favorite. I get really excited when I see a new one. Keep up the good work!
I survived the E3 2006 Gran Turismo presentation in Feb 2019
I love these retrospective videos, cheers guys.
Just imagine popping a TLoU disc and play it on stage at that time. Now that would make people justify the price point
Back in the late PS3 era I used to rent a lot of games and man it showed what games were early PS3 and later PS3 titles.
Same with this gen. From watch dogs to Red dead 2. Is crazy how devs were able to make these unpowered consoles look they were beast machines.
@@H.E.M. It's all about Dev talent really. A 2080ti with SLI can't do anything if the devs have no artistic or technical talent. Xbots love to crap on PS4 hardware, but the first party support really brings out the potential of the system.
@@RandomGamingMoments925 Yup in DFs 2020 best graphics videos it is full of PS4 games.
@@H.E.M. Respectfully, I wouldn’t say the difference was as vast, and Watch Dogs wasn’t exactly a ground-up 8th gen game. A fairer comparison may be Infamous Second Son to Ghost of Tsushima (running on a base PS4 just to clarify).