QS120 e-bike build is the quickest bike on the channel.

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  • Опубликовано: 31 янв 2025

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  • @miguelpagansr6128
    @miguelpagansr6128 2 года назад +34

    Absolutely my favorite build so far, it really needs to be either stretched or wheelie bar.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад +8

      Thanks! Ya, mine too!I will stretch it soon!

    • @nickpatton3211
      @nickpatton3211 Год назад +1

      Can you build me a bike please

    • @rafaelramos2299
      @rafaelramos2299 Год назад +2

      @@Black66 HOW MUCH DID ALL THE PARTS COST

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Год назад

      @@rafaelramos2299 Links for the parts are in the description of the videos on the e-bike playlist

    • @rafaelramos2299
      @rafaelramos2299 Год назад

      @@Black66 thank you

  • @TheAnthonyBrandi
    @TheAnthonyBrandi Год назад +16

    You been a inspiration to me. I was building my mini bike with the same motor kit you recommended but never got to ride it because it burned up along with our house 2 weeks ago. I'm so sad. We didn't have any insurance either. I been battling cancer since 2021 so it's been rough and I just wanna feel the wind in my hair again. Life's handing me such a bad hand.

    • @paulk459
      @paulk459 Год назад

      what caused the fire

    • @mozzde4675
      @mozzde4675 11 месяцев назад

      @@paulk459that’s a dumb question

    • @mikehagquist5198
      @mikehagquist5198 8 месяцев назад

      Probably the battery

    • @katherinecreamer9039
      @katherinecreamer9039 3 месяца назад

      @@paulk459 Believe it or not, it was smoking in bed. My mind was blown too.

  • @andrewpipitone1572
    @andrewpipitone1572 2 года назад +3

    This is awesome. I love the power it has. I want to see this extended. I changed tires on my bike from mtn to trail type tread and it slowed my bike down. I love the kit. Ps when I was 11 I asked my dad if we can make an eletric 5speed.He told me we needed a constant runing motor. He as a good mechanic. But always busy and the last of 5 did not get much attention. Lol it was 1973. Imagine?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад +1

      I will extend it in a video soon. Yes no need for gears with this bike. Have you checked out the race video with this bike? It's in the e-bike playlist. Thanks for watching!

    • @andrewpipitone1572
      @andrewpipitone1572 2 года назад

      @@Black66 I will I have two tuong bloods that I need to build something with like like what you do. We will be watching and getting friends involved. :-) Holy crap 60 mph on a mini bike that insane. Lol

  • @mc4492
    @mc4492 2 года назад +2

    That thing flys out the gate.. Sounds like something out of Star wars..You can tell you respect that crazy power band..Really cool build..👌🏼👍🏼✌🏼

  • @nealmyers2735
    @nealmyers2735 Год назад +1

    This is the best bike in this style I have seen so far. I'm going to try to build one myself. Thanks for the great content

  • @jr.3650
    @jr.3650 2 года назад +1

    Dude, you got the fastest coleman on the planet. Thats crazy!!!!

  • @gunsandrotors8704
    @gunsandrotors8704 2 года назад +3

    Its perfect...great off the line and really good top end. And quiet.

  • @bikerevolutiontv
    @bikerevolutiontv Год назад +1

    I like how you pay close attention to detain. Very good build!

  • @NVScrapper
    @NVScrapper 2 года назад +3

    This was an awesome build. You are a genius Black66! It must be that giant Alien brain of yours😎! I can hardly wait for next Saturdays video to see the racing against other MB's. Keep up the good content! 💯💯❤💚👏👏😘

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад +3

      Yes, it is my giant alien brain! 👽

  • @rondg2
    @rondg2 Месяц назад +1

    nice build! qs120 is an underrated motor. very low KV (rpm per volt) so you don't need a lot of reduction to make it work

  • @davidmalone8565
    @davidmalone8565 2 года назад +16

    Another work of art sir!!

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад +7

      Thanks! Check out next Saturday's race video with this bike!

    • @wbt398
      @wbt398 2 года назад

      @@Black66 *

  • @turbocoupe9212
    @turbocoupe9212 2 года назад +2

    Awesome job dude, keep up the great content.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      Thanks, will do!

  • @Griff93ST
    @Griff93ST 2 года назад +1

    That things fastter than some 125 bikes wtf. What a cool build dude

  • @Barncatfish
    @Barncatfish 2 года назад +3

    Nice video work and editing, and useful real-world ride along in terms of how the 120 motor feels on a 20s battery. If I was going to sink that much cash on components I'd put them in a more sophisticated rolling chassis, but that's personal preference...

  • @mikeransom1959
    @mikeransom1959 Год назад +1

    I have spent like 10 grand between two bikes one started as a stock 2017 Emmo knight sport and was upgraded with first a Qsmotor 3000w Mid drive assembly kit that bolted right on with almost no modification and had a belt drive 3000w Qsmotor mid drive motor sandwiched between two nice light aluminum arms with everything from the rear rim, belt drive pulley and rubber dampers kinda, a votol em150, a two piston caliper, brake pads, the new hardware to mount everything using existing rear shock and hardware, existing rear tire and the existing wire harness and controls and brake levers. 72v 70ah controller The first bike goes 110kph and can wheelie. The Second bike exactly the same except I used a Fardriver Nd96530 controller on this one and it has way more torque and is kinda scary to be honest because of the insane torque that will throw you off the back of your not hanging on tight. It's running at 96 volts instead of 72 and more amperage too. It has a 96v 55ah lithium ion pack and turned down by a lot it does 130 in seconds and had to have the ramp up speed turned way down to make it safe.... So much fun.... Anyone else got one like this and what is the max anyone has ran the Qsmotor 3000w mid drive motor at with belt drive??? I blew a belt twice now in 4 years. No sign of wear just blew out when I cranked hard on it both times.

  • @wilsgrant
    @wilsgrant 2 года назад +4

    He makes it look so easy.

  • @BustedKnucklesBuildsTexas
    @BustedKnucklesBuildsTexas 2 года назад +2

    Great video , nice work on the bike , clean work !

  • @T2daBikeGuy
    @T2daBikeGuy 2 года назад +1

    nice clean build i got to get out of this city so i can build

  • @Elijahhuckaby
    @Elijahhuckaby 2 года назад +3

    Bro love it man keep it up I love mini bikes because of you and I love it and I am a mini bike Mechanic now

  • @POSminiracer
    @POSminiracer 2 года назад +2

    That's pretty impressive. It'll be interesting to see the ride you can get out of it

  • @M1kP2_
    @M1kP2_ 2 месяца назад +1

    That thing is incredible 😮

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 месяца назад

      Check out the QS138 bike video ruclips.net/video/zbn2shqOuaQ/видео.html

  • @budwhite9781
    @budwhite9781 2 года назад +1

    Fantastic video. What a build. Great performance numbers too👍👏

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      Thanks! Check out the race video with the same bike . It's in the Mega Moto e bike playlist .

  • @danielroach8330
    @danielroach8330 2 года назад +2

    This minibike is awesome!

  • @TheTrooper777
    @TheTrooper777 2 года назад +1

    That is insane, awesome. Thank you for sharing

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @scrappyhustler7467
    @scrappyhustler7467 2 года назад +2

    My neighbor has a similar kit he amped up and he ran a 6.54 8th mile on his motovox e mini bike no 1/4 mile as of yet regardless its fast as hell and faster than all my gas.

  • @raynagy7660
    @raynagy7660 2 года назад +2

    I really enjoy watching this channel it's cool

  • @Gunshotglory
    @Gunshotglory Год назад +1

    Dude sick! Love the video. no fat just good info

  • @dt9094
    @dt9094 Год назад +1

    I love what you have done. I’m an old man now and never once did I ever think my mini bike would be electric powered. I’ve been watching your shows and I think there just great to watch. I’ve been tinkering around with my grandsons bikes (2) they want me to get back in the saddle again. If you have a larger mini bike, with out front suspension we’re would you look for a larger set of front suspension? Thank you. I’ll keep watching 👍🇨🇦

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching the videos. Gopowersports has all that stuff.

  • @str8mac842
    @str8mac842 2 года назад +1

    That thing is fast ! Quiet but still have a sound to it 🔥

  • @raynagy7660
    @raynagy7660 2 года назад +1

    That bike is sick man that's crazy I like it

  • @AlexRapada-ft6tm
    @AlexRapada-ft6tm 2 года назад +1

    You're crazy. I love it!

  • @xHambone69x
    @xHambone69x 2 года назад +3

    One that size with some suspension would keep it from lifting up I think. Really nice job on that.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! I'm going to do something like that or stretch it. More videos to come with this bike. Thanks for watching!

  • @dust921
    @dust921 2 года назад +1

    i made a all wheel drive fat T E bike. im canadian so i needed something good for snow/ice/sand/mud lol & i think it might the future when it comes to slippery of rode stuff it works super good ;)

  • @juice9767
    @juice9767 Год назад +1

    Love it. Sweet Build 👍

  • @sethcrawford6219
    @sethcrawford6219 2 года назад +1

    Just found your channel I love it man keep it up ❤

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      Thanks! Thanks for watching!

  • @geemy9675
    @geemy9675 2 года назад +3

    impressive. looks WAY quicker than the 14kW metacycle to 30mph even though it's limited by the geometry and short wheelbase. there's probably several factors, lighter weight, smaller wheels/shorter gearing (direct drive wheel hub is 1:1), better cooling, more aggressive torque.
    looks like a slightly taller gearing might still get to 60mph quicker.

  • @johnk6346
    @johnk6346 2 года назад +4

    bad ass minibike💫

  • @dust921
    @dust921 2 года назад +1

    i like the wire cuvers looks cyberpunk :)

  • @robinblackman4509
    @robinblackman4509 2 года назад +1

    Excellent 👍.....
    I'm coming to that Level of power with my next build.... 😀

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      Awesome! Have you watched the e-bike race video? ruclips.net/video/UXSrOuKkdrU/видео.html

  • @AdamOpheim
    @AdamOpheim 2 года назад +1

    Instead of stretching, try wheelie bars. Made many sets out of Conduit. Easy to bend up and take on/off. And plenty strong if built correctly. I make them the length of the bike and let them touch slightly when seated. I run 120v setup...

    • @johngalt97
      @johngalt97 2 года назад

      Electrical conduit with wood shoved in at the ends to stiffen the mounting holes, and braided steel wire with turnbuckles for the 4 tension elements. No bending required, just drilling at either end of the conduit, which can be done with a hand drill. Super light weight and super strong, as Adam says. I ran one with the normal suspension on an RD350, and it made launches smooth-as-butter.

  • @Mike-ig6jk
    @Mike-ig6jk 2 года назад +7

    Great build ! Black66 , you should invest in a DeWalt or Milwaukee portaband , metal cutting bandsaw . Build a table / stand for it . Ideal for making accurate cuts , brackets etc ..

  • @nicolec7290
    @nicolec7290 2 года назад +3

    900 never. 30 mph is just fine. Love those tires

  • @jasongooden917
    @jasongooden917 2 года назад +3

    Speed Limit 40 Sign
    Black66: I did a speed on 63.95 😂

  • @runingblackbear
    @runingblackbear 2 года назад +2

    Grate job on the ebike

  • @tristanmcnabb2741
    @tristanmcnabb2741 2 года назад +1

    Allsome work from cruzermans inventions 😁🎉👌🌟

  • @scotto9online
    @scotto9online 2 года назад +1

    looks like the high desert , hello from apple valley

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад +1

      I used to live in Apple Valley.

  • @letsskydecipherandfindout54
    @letsskydecipherandfindout54 2 года назад +1

    Excellent Channel exactly what I needed to run across perfect relaxing information with accurate calibration within your best. You've got yourself a lightning bolt. Is it just me or those handlebars on backwards it looks like you're riding it from the other end or stopping it when someone's driving to you can anyone tell that the handlebars are backwards? Or perhaps I'm the only one that is backwards I've been told that more than once

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      Thanks! Check out the E-bike race video! ruclips.net/video/UXSrOuKkdrU/видео.html

  • @juliosdiy3206
    @juliosdiy3206 2 года назад +1

    The speed is like a bullet!

  • @JayL781
    @JayL781 2 года назад +1

    You know I'm getting ready to build a similar build I've been trying to figure out a way to use a computer cooling system with the speed controller box to help keep temperatures down

    • @jdickens8306
      @jdickens8306 2 года назад

      Simple radiator pump and water block easy pc cooling for controller

  • @bolectric
    @bolectric 2 года назад +1

    Yeah buddy! QS Powaaaa 🦾

  • @EntityPilot
    @EntityPilot 2 года назад +3

    What did you use to program the motor and the controller? Did you enable flux weakening? Or is the motor on the stock program? Thx.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад +1

      Yes, it was on the stock program in this video. Battery upgrade and parameters in the controller along with a frame stretch for better launches are coming in upcoming videos.

    • @EntityPilot
      @EntityPilot 2 года назад

      @@Black66 thank you i wasn’t sure, thats pretty fast for being stock 😅

  • @tristanmcnabb2741
    @tristanmcnabb2741 2 года назад +1

    Allsome stuff from cruzermans inventions 😁👍🌟🎉

  • @PGG909
    @PGG909 2 года назад +1

    Awesome.. great work!

  • @psehunter3525
    @psehunter3525 Год назад +1

    Super awesome work! BTW I’ve never worn my knee pads upside down before do you find it more comfortable?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Год назад

      Try it. It is WAY more comfortable.

  • @wbt398
    @wbt398 2 года назад +1

    i had an idea put a big ass battery on this frame with duel hub motors

  • @jeffkent6345
    @jeffkent6345 2 года назад +1

    I really enjoy your channel. I’m going to build a Mega Moro 212 . Do you think this kit would handle the bigger tires, I’m going 21 “ double jack shafts for more gearing options. This build will be for extreme single track slow going to wide open desert riding. The QS 138 kit has more power and options, I’m considering this kit. Thanks !

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      Thanks! Ya, i think you can probably get bigger wheels and ties on there. Yes, the QS138 kit has more options. I'm building one myself.

  • @agungdecaprio8925
    @agungdecaprio8925 2 года назад +2

    Wish I have one.that was cool electric bike 🤤🤩👍

  • @harryfowles5088
    @harryfowles5088 2 года назад +2

    Bro that’s bad ass… I would buy one. U should go in business.

  • @gearlab734
    @gearlab734 2 года назад +1

    It's cool, well done, but that things a motorbike!

  • @petermelnyk7664
    @petermelnyk7664 2 года назад +1

    Awesome thanks for sharing.....also thanks for using MPH.... instead of kph.

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! Check out the race video with this bike . It's in the e-bike playlist on the channel. Thanks for watching!

  • @JockOStreet
    @JockOStreet Месяц назад +1

    Hey man do you think the motor would be ok if it were bolted only and not wleded

  • @tripplevan
    @tripplevan 2 месяца назад +1

    i love this build, i just wish you used the original handlebars lol

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 месяца назад

      Thanks! Have you seen the QS138 build on the channel? ruclips.net/video/0C3c-ElOMhE/видео.html

  • @Turbski1
    @Turbski1 Год назад +1

    i wish i had that electric setup to install onto my GTS frame

  • @glennguerra2326
    @glennguerra2326 2 года назад +1

    I really dig your bikes you do good work. Quality

  • @chopshopminibikes170
    @chopshopminibikes170 2 года назад +1

    great video!

  • @jesusanguiano420
    @jesusanguiano420 3 месяца назад +1

    Can you use a different battery for that kit?? The bike Is sickkk bro!!

    • @Black66
      @Black66  3 месяца назад

      Thanks! Check out the e-bike playlist for more bikes with different batteries. ruclips.net/video/0C3c-ElOMhE/видео.html

  • @1790jman
    @1790jman 2 года назад +1

    I’d like to see the range test on it I wanted a sur ron but man there just to much without doing stuff to it this be a lot cheaper to build

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      The range test is coming soon!

    • @1790jman
      @1790jman 2 года назад

      @@Black66 oh ok sweet can’t wait to see

  • @kenndjohnson
    @kenndjohnson Год назад +1

    fat tire reverse trike for on and off-road for Michigan UP living all season. Enclosed option for winter. That would be awesome. That would open a market for winter Midwest people. And make it sporting looking like a Polaris RZR.

  • @REVNUMANEWBERN
    @REVNUMANEWBERN 2 года назад +1

    I'm wondering HOW this setup would do on a old Snapper lawnmower frame without the cutter deck, like make a go cart with this same setup??? Your thoughts

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      I think this kit would work great on a kart project. It has a lot of torque!

  • @joshm4723
    @joshm4723 2 года назад +3

    I don’t know why I never thought about researching electric conversion kits for my mini bikes and go carts. This video literally just blew my mind! Any recommendations on a good electric motor conversion for a standard go cart?

    • @liamhunter2403
      @liamhunter2403 2 года назад

      Can't go wrong with Kelly Controllers and QS motors-all depends on budget IMO...Can get expensive FAST haha

    • @Mike-ii1vz
      @Mike-ii1vz 2 года назад +1

      Because everyone who would have put you on researched it and seen how expensive it was lol

    • @liamhunter2403
      @liamhunter2403 2 года назад

      @@Mike-ii1vz At least anything worth getting power-wise would cost $1000 for motor/controller and another $1000 for battery. Can always go and get a kit from Amazon for ~$300 and a battery for ~$500.

  • @JRyan93
    @JRyan93 2 года назад +1

    What front wheel is that? Great build!!

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      It's a 6-inch mag wheel from GoPowerSports

  • @ReganHumphrey-g7e
    @ReganHumphrey-g7e 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have the same kit for my mini trike! What size braided sleeping did you use on the phase wires?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  11 месяцев назад

      The links for the parts used are in the description of the video.

  • @I-TILE
    @I-TILE Год назад +1

    Nice Fabrication

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Год назад

      Thanks! Check out the e-bike playlist I built a few more ruclips.net/video/Ydhffwsk-SE/видео.html

  • @robkido9696
    @robkido9696 2 года назад +1

    I would like to see you put that set-up in a go kart ( rear end mount)

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 месяца назад

      Go kart video ruclips.net/video/0C3c-ElOMhE/видео.html

  • @smartassist9700
    @smartassist9700 2 года назад +1

    If power settings can be set at (30% only). What is top speed? What is total mileage distance one can travel? Also, what is charge time from “close”to zero? Are there speed chargers that plug into a 120V outlet?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      Check out the Mega Moto e-bike playlist. There is a range test along with a top-speed video on the playlist. ruclips.net/video/fx9DqKgFE2E/видео.html

  • @BrokenWoody718
    @BrokenWoody718 10 месяцев назад +1

    I’m about to build one of these and I gotta ask, how long does it take to charge the battery, and how long does it last? Thank you a ton! ❤

    • @Black66
      @Black66  10 месяцев назад

      It could be anywhere from 45 minutes to a few hours depending on the charger used. Check out the range test videos in the e-bike playlist. ruclips.net/video/zbn2shqOuaQ/видео.html

    • @dustinhoover8697
      @dustinhoover8697 4 месяца назад

      You have a link for this E kit? Comes with battery??

  • @gonetoheck
    @gonetoheck 2 года назад +4

    How much for the Tesla mini bike ?

  • @Newso-m2b
    @Newso-m2b Год назад +1

    Great vid can I ask what is the name of of the company and where did you buy the kit from I’m wanting to do a e build also thanks

    • @Black66
      @Black66  Год назад

      Check out the electric mini-bike playlist. The link for the kits and the parts used are in some of the video descriptions. ruclips.net/video/Ydhffwsk-SE/видео.html

  • @farrismoore7524
    @farrismoore7524 2 года назад +1

    I love that bike 😧

  • @delasse3178
    @delasse3178 2 года назад +1

    i want to see it do some corners :)

  • @richpalmisano1740
    @richpalmisano1740 2 года назад +1

    Definately can get more top end but it will sacrifice some 0-30. Could this sucker get over 70 with the correct gearing?
    This frame is pretty much the same as the mm80 no?

  • @SpACeCruizeR2o3
    @SpACeCruizeR2o3 2 года назад +2

    omg he got the QS120 holy shnikieeez

  • @louisrouthier9901
    @louisrouthier9901 2 года назад +1

    Nice job

  • @joneserupinsmoke9161
    @joneserupinsmoke9161 2 года назад +1

    im a gear head and love how engines sound but im starting to like motors

  • @OperationEndGame
    @OperationEndGame 2 года назад +1

    Heyo! Could you make one with shock absorbers?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      Yes! Check out the other e-bike on the channel.Thanks for watching!ruclips.net/video/88cQDzvLl7A/видео.html

  • @davesmith4804
    @davesmith4804 2 года назад +1

    Cool build dude, I want one : (

  • @PhantomPanic
    @PhantomPanic 2 года назад +2

    Well damn, now I'm curious how fast it is from 0 to 60 LOL

  • @misc_13_13
    @misc_13_13 2 года назад +1

    Try a larger front sprocket with the same rear.

  • @dust921
    @dust921 2 года назад +1

    i love the sound of a E bike cyber batman :)

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      Ya, me too! The sound adds a level of fun to it.

  • @jonlee580
    @jonlee580 5 месяцев назад +1

    Mr. Vermin Supreme

  • @mlindsay527
    @mlindsay527 2 года назад +3

    Nice! Stretch it! You know you want to! Do you think you are hitting the power limit of the motor or some programmed rpm max at top speed?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад +2

      Thanks! Did a little programming already. Its reaching full power now with the battery that it has. More videos to come with a more usable gear ratio and more top speed!

  • @joedoakes8307
    @joedoakes8307 2 года назад +1

    WHY , aren't you giving US your top speed for each power setting ? Also , the price of the Kit ?

  • @hobonickel840
    @hobonickel840 2 года назад +1

    Is there a way to make your truck charge the e-bike just by driving the truck ..because its light enough to mount ...I want to build one and mount it to my truck. Had initially thought about Suron for my bugout bike ...thanks for inspiration

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! Maybe with an inverter. With the battery that's on this bike you wont need to charge the bike very often. It has a fantastic range.Range Video coming soon!

  • @ianmangham4570
    @ianmangham4570 2 года назад +1

    Beautiful tyre's

  • @charlesbroussard9289
    @charlesbroussard9289 2 года назад +1

    WOW like Lightning

  • @rickmantwill8356
    @rickmantwill8356 2 года назад +1

    How much did the kit cost? I have an old PGO scooter I would like to convert
    Would not need the forks or handlebars

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      The links for the parts used is in the description. Thanks for watching!

  • @misc_13_13
    @misc_13_13 2 года назад +1

    Wondering why you didn't use a belt drive?

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад +1

      I might in another build . I have more builds coming. Thanks for watching !

  • @18rayespanola
    @18rayespanola 2 года назад +2

    Can we get a range test video on 100% battery

    • @Black66
      @Black66  2 года назад

      Yes, I have more content coming with this bike.

  • @dust921
    @dust921 2 года назад +1

    i love my dule inweal hub motors super EZ to hukup & keeps the center grav low + less parts to brake but im not going for speed like u im going for powering over snow or mud & all wheal dive is kee lolol hum i wonder what if i put a rear & front hub & a mid drive thats 3 motors lol over kill maybe but ill do it for scients lol & dont worry about battery power i got special removable saddlebags i can stack up battery bloks in + thay got heating/cooling systems BUT will it explode?? but its for scients lolol my temp sensors should tell me if its getting to hot ;)

  • @999benhonda
    @999benhonda 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'd love to do an electric build...but while a decent motor isn't that expensive, the battery pack and controller are. I did an electric fwd drift trike with a 2000watt, $500 kit...nowhere near enough power for good fun.