The Reality of Blanket Training - Shiny Happy People - The Duggar Family
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- I demonstrate the advice of one Michael Pearl as cited very briefly on the Duggar family documentary "Shiny Happy People" Please do not do this at home!
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Lori Voeller teaching blanket training during the women's sessions was my introduction to it. Blanket training defies logic and maternal instincts.
Defies humanity itself.
What god would preach that beating a child is godly !?
Right? She had no idea how to parent a 14 month old, very disturbing, especially notable that Michelle mentions that lovely mom on her family blog, darn Michelle, you just don’t get it
Suzanne, I knew a family at a church I was a member of for a while that practiced blanket training. When they explained it to me, I was in horror. The first thing that came to my mind was how it was in direct contradiction to Ephesians 6:4, "Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord." And what is the discipline and instruction of the Lord? Love and forgiveness. God is Love and Christianity is about forgiveness.
This was a great video. You have so much wisdom and I love when you share it. God bless you.
Thank you Kentucky Girl. I was so disturbed by the lack of depth in the documentary I felt I had to explain
I like the way the Pearls said you train a child. No, you train a puppy or young dog! You raise a child into adulthood.
Michael pearl should be arrested
Agreed and jailed for one very long time.
Well, under the eye for an eye philosophy, he should be beaten to death, imo.
@@janishuey3639 nooo, that's crazy, he should just be stopped immediately and authorities show his followers that this is legally wrong! Abuse vs. discipline.
Agreed and put him in gen pop
@@sararao8429 he should receive mercy when he had none for creatures much smaller and weaker than he? Never mind. Our God is just.
HOW ON EARTH could anyone ever beat an infant?! I’m so amazed that anyone subscribed to this horrifying treatment. If children are a gift from the Lord, how is it ok to abuse such a precious gift?
What happened to Michael Pearl’s poor children?
His kids grew up, married and had kids. Two of his kids are divorced, one cannot have custody of his kids because of the abuse they teach
Thank you for demonstrating to us about blanket training. It is much worse than I had imagined. Poor children.😢😢
I still cannot wrap my mind around doing that to any child!
Yes, thank you… this was devastating to watch and must’ve been so hard to demonstrate. What an evil practice.
Same here ! I’ve never known anyone who disciplined through this method 😔
They start abusing babies so young! How horrific, these people should/must be stopped and arrested!
This is actually how I was raised , I personally think it should be made illegal to do !!!!! Now as a mom myself I couldn’t image doing that to my children
The whole thing is so frustrating to me. They make these mothers have more kids than they can handle, and then teach them to beat them into submission. It's layers and layers of abuse.
I'm triggered just by the sound of hitting the floor around the blanket 😢. I can't imagine doing that to a child, it is inhumane! I have had it explained before, but thank you Suzanne for demonstrating it so graphically.
I was nauseated doing this because it is horrible
Omg, me too! I imagined that pillow being a toddler I love, I wasn't even trying too😢 this is horrible!
Thank you for showing us this. When Michelle Dugger said she blanket trained her children I thought she set them on a blanket and if they crawled off she picked them up and set them back on it. I never dreamed it was so horrific and violent. No wonder these children blindly follow their parents orders. Their spirits have been completely broken. I am completely shook.
This was pretty traumatic to make, but Cindy Kunsman and I agreed it had to happen after seeing the documentary and seeing they gloss over the full horror of what blanket training was.
Same. I’m shocked. What I don’t understand is how in the world the Duggars and Bates kids always seemed like happy normal children. I watched them play on TV.
What I am wondering is what didn’t we see on TV. Every time we see Michelle remind them to take turns, or ask that they don’t take brothers ice cream- and show what to do instead- does that equal a whooping? Are these kids spanked every day? Shocked. Only dawned on me recently- OMG- am watching a cult.
Abuse, they are training the child to accept abuse and to have no boundaries.
Think about the psychology of this as well. Neglecting your child’s need for love and attention before school age (and even after) is what makes an adult narcissist, an adult psychopath, and/or an adult with other disorders/psychological traumas. People who do this to their children, especially at such a young and tender age when they are just learning the realities of the world, are creating the next abuser, the next murderer, and the next mass shooter as this kind woman puts it.
Yes, it just does so much damage and creates abusers.
That's not parenting, that's bullying.
This is what was done to Michael Pearl by his grandmother that he has made the centerpiece of his ministry.
@@suzannetitkemeyernlq His "ministry." As if he actually cares for his followers and wants to take care of them. I see a bully who has turned the concept of faith into a profit generating business preying on the fears and weaknesses of others. I'm So glad you got away from their ilk!
No it’s abuse .
@@laurad324 bullying Is abuse.
Re: comment: absolutely correct! This is absolutely abusive! This is a form of evil!
Anyone doing this should be investigated by CPS. I work with very young children and this practice would do so much damage. Builds fear and not trust and healthy attachmentment. Children should be treated as curious and capable.
Agreed, this is abusive parenting
Omg, this blanket training situation is horrific looking! I pray the victims of this cult are all one day free from this mind control 😢
I appreciate you making this, watching it was hard. I have no experience with this nor did I have much awareness of this horrific practice but I have two children and it's heartbreaking that anyone would do this to a tiny baby.
I never gave the Duggars a second thought until I found out about Josh’s sexual deviance and how his parents valued keeping everything quiet over their daughters’ healing. I then lost all respect for Jim Bob and Michelle. Imagining Michelle doing this to her babies fills me with rage. If I saw Michelle out somewhere I would be tempted to do a little blanket training on her. I’m willing to explain myself to the Lord on judgment day.
Thank you for explaining this, Suzanne. I can see how difficult it was for you to do this. How anyone can be okay with blanket training is insane in my opinion. Being physically abused as a child, I was extremely appalled. My now adult child was never hit or smacked growing up. He turned out to be a wonderful young man. I couldn’t ever imagine doing this to him or to anyone.
As someone who also doesn't/hasn't physically disciplined my kids (ages 8-20 now) I'm also disturbed by this. This is far more brutal than I imagined 😢
@@ShilasSpellboundCreations Which is why I took the step of doing it. Pearl/Gothard/Duggars like to pretend it's this sweet little loving training.
@Suzanne Titkemeyer No Longer Quivering it's horrendous. Even though it was hard to watch, I'm glad you showed it.
@@suzannetitkemeyernlq there’s nothing sweet nor loving about hitting babies. Those people are deranged. Thank you again for breaking down how that works, though. If anybody rises telling me it’s sweet.ovine training, I have some foundation of how it works and can counter argue.
@@ShilasSpellboundCreations it’s surprising that this behavior is even allowed. It’s extremely brutal in my opinion.
They are rewiring the child’s brain. It’s creating trauma and ptsd. Anxiety and depression.
All they are doing is making some psychiatrist rich by created all sorts of problems
Thank you for speaking up about this! We need your voice. Your experience matters and I’m so glad you got out.
Wow so awful 😢
I'm getting angrier as time goes on, because the Duggar's show didn't reveal any of this in its true form, nor did Jim Bob's and Michelle's book! They made it just sound like using a blanket as a pack n play for quiet time, with a beloved toy and redirection, all of which are so useful and healthy tips!
I guess I should be grateful that the show and book were so whitewashed clean that I was receiving actual, good parenting tips instead of learning this horrific advice as it was intended (not that I would have implemented it because who with a conscious would??)
Anna Duggar has completely swallowed the poison, she is dependent on Josh and the Duggars for her survival, and cannot be trusted to do what is right, even by her own children. I pray for her children. Harder than I've prayed for just about anyone. Because they're in big trouble. So sad and scary! 😢
Hopefully the less toxic members of her family will impact her as Josh's sentence drags on and she (I hope) starts to question these things.
@@suzannetitkemeyernlq I sure hope so, but she knew, and was holding it together anyway. By the time you'll defend a pedophile to maintain the status quo, you're far gone as far as morality.
It's pretty bad 😢
Anna was raised, like all the other women, that she can't do anything but cook, clean, pray, and make as many babies as her body would allow. She was told that divorce was a sin and would be shunned from her family. I think that poor Anna was raised and told that she couldn't think for herself and needed to depend on a man to do the thinking for her.
I also believe that the way her siblings were raised, some rebelled. One of her brothers offered to take her and the kids in because he never liked Josh, but she refused. It's really sad.
@@missouriprideusa6241 oh yeah! I faintly remember that! Oh no... she should've took the deal
This is child abuse. Every day I am more and more glad for my dad's wisdom. When I was a teenager, our close family friends got caught up in this mess and invited my family. My dad soon realized it was a cult and we never went again. (and lost those friends until they left the cult) But we had no clue how far this really went.
The only time we ever got spanked was if we put ourselves in serious physical danger such as running across the street, and that was only before we could understand the consequences of those actions.
Now that is a reason for a swat on the butt, but they took it to crazy places!
This is child abuse some people need to be arrested this is torture.
What is blanket training? Abuse. It’s abuse.
I remember Dr Dobson (yes, I’m old) explaining the benefits of hitting children with objects instead of hands because the child would associate the parents hands as hurtful if they spanked them not using an object. (Um, what?) I’ve never been so glad I ignored advice and chose not to abuse my children. They are now both grown, well adjusted adults now. Glad I was right and saw it for what it was.
Dobson is a complete jerk. All if his child rearing advice is just dead wrong. Focus on the Family should be abolished. Religion should have no part in child protective services. Protecting children is humanitarian. Keep the Bible thumper’s out of it.
Dobson NEVER implied beating! A tap with a wooden spoon or ruler. C’mon he would never imply harm.
@@glendam3138Spanking in general is abusive. There are numerous studies showing that it does more harm than good (and before you come at me saying the cliche "I was hit and turned out fine" or "I hit my kids and they turned out fine" that won't change my mind. A lot of people who claim to be fine are not actually fine, and even if they did turn out fine you have no way of knowing if they would have been more fine without having been hit. A lot of pro-spanking parents equate non-spanking as permissive parenting, which simply isn't true. There are many ways to discipline and successfully raise a child without resorting to violence. People just stick with spanking because it's easier and it's how they were raised.
Thank you for explaining this. I know it must have been difficult for you. Blessings and ❤ for you and yours! ❤
Thank yoU!
The group also disciplined infants that were not quiet during church services. Horrifying.
😯😡😭
Omgggg
punished, not disciplined.
Children have a natural sense of wonder & curiosity given to them by God. That’s how they explore their world and learn. Physically assaulting them when they explore their world instills fear and terror, and eventually they learn not to touch anything at all. Their curiosity and wonder is gone.
Blows my mind that no one in that group ever allows deviation of thought or intellectual curiosity. Just this locked in conformity
So f'ing sadistic! I can't imagine.
It is so awful
I totally agree with your point that adult violence often has its roots in violence against children. It's so simple and obvious but for some reason no one is willing to see/believe it. Violence against children is a problem, not a solution.
I do not understand how anyone could think violence against children is ever right
That man triggers me SO MUCH…. But I didn’t know he advocated animal abuse as well! What an absolute reeking vile POS!!
My heart breaks-my belly turns sour-my anger boils….THIS BLANKET BULLSHIT IS ABUSE….My prayers for these sweet babes🙏💔😭😭‼️
Thank you for going there, so that we may begin to comprehend! Thank you🙏❤️😘
It is just so evil that unless you see what they are doing directly you cannot always recognize it
And where is CPS? These are criminal acts!!!
@@suzannetitkemeyernlq now I’m learning of the Pearls-Michael and wife and the book TO TRAIN UP A CHILD😱🤯🤬🤢💔
"The bigger person always wins and violence always works"
Something to keep in mind if your children go through puberty and may become stronger than you.
Yep. Once little Johnny gets bigger than dad there can be a day of reckoning.
Re: comment; hmm 🤔were you beaten up by someone older than yourself? To make any remarks in agreement to beating your child speaks volumes about you! Refrain yourself from being around any little children! Violence is NEVER AN ANSWER!! The Almighty Lord Jesus Christ will definitely be dealing with you for hurting a child! You’re asking for trouble for yourself!
I was raised by Baptist parents who DEFINITELY read Michael Pearl's book and I completely agree that this method only teaches that "the bigger person always wins and violence always works". I began fighting back at 14 and left at 19 because living alone on the streets with nothing was better than living at "Home".
@@barbaradouglas2283 Who are you speaking to there?
That kind of reminds me of this.
"It rubs the lotion on its skin, or it gets the hose again."
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Basically confinement to a specific area and severe punishment for lack of immediate compliance.
I think you would have to have a deep inner rage to do that to a child, especially pre-toddlers.
I feel very sorry for every breathing thing that has ever come into the crosshairs of Michael Pearl.
And I have deep sorrow for everyone who has ever been in the crosshairs of someone who espouses this kind of child abuse disguised as “discipline”.
I’m watching this video while I watch over my husband in his hospital room and I’m crying for the children.
“Vengeance is mine” sayeth the Lord.
I hope he recovers quickly. Its a hard subject.
They tell parents it is abusive and negligent if they do not hit and beat their kids. They say they're dooming them to an eternity in hell. I know because it's how my entire family system believed. And the women often didn't want to be complicit or violent but were convinced that not being monsters was monstrous. Like when you do cry it out to a tiny baby. For a bio mom, hearing her newborn scream is TORTURE. But cry it out and Ferberizing says you're denying your baby the chance to "learn to self soothe" and that by tending to them, you are hurting them. It FEELS wrong in your gut. Moms will weep on the floor in the hallways while doing crying it out. But they are fully convinced it's "for their own good". I mean, I bet there are millions of people in the world who hear someone day "for your own good" and it sends a chill down their spine. That's the narrative. It's a lie. It's rationalization. But people ignore their instincts. The men in my family... Yeah it was rage. But a lot of the female physical abusers weren't angry. They were choosing to ignore their own judgement, their children's cries, and instead trust the insane narrative given to them by someone else. The big lesson is to trust your gut.
Re: comment: I was definitely spanked by a black strap! I’ve never ever forgotten that experience! Then my dad lost his cool for some reason & literally took down my pants & hit my bare bottom with all his might. Do ya think that’s okay?! 🤷♀️NO IT’S NOT! It’s conveyed a message that the bigger & older people are allowed to “hit” you but you can’t get back to them! This is a really horrible treatment! Evil is really true here! Parents are to train up a child as to how they’re to go. But abuse isn’t the way to treat any child! Spanking a child isn’t the way to go period!
Pack and plays and baby gates are a thing ...
The flexible plumming line is basically a whip which is why it transfers so much force into the muscle under the skin. Its a whip.
All I know is that it hurts a great deal more than the spoon
@@suzannetitkemeyernlq 😭😡
Oh my God , I watched your video , I can't stop crying , unreal I'm beside myself
I almost didn't make it thru the video. That sound is STILL triggering for me. When my little sister and I were adopted... We were apart of the iblp. I can't tell you how many times I remember wanting to pull my hair out over my father beating my sister. Then counting to 3if she's still crying... Then start all over again. I once couldn't take it any more and bursted in the room and yelled how do you expect her to stop when you're hurting her?? I was 8. I asked to take her spanking for her. My dad told me she wouldn't learn if I took her punishment... I in turn said isn't that what Jesus did on the cross? He dismissed my little sister and beat me for her. I could nvr be broken. I hold my screams and hot tears until I could get to my pillow and let it out. So still to this day I can hear that whack sound in my head. I finally left home at 17. Keep in mind before we were adopted we were in foster care. My sis was a csa victim, wasn't potty trained until 6... Was neglected and abused... Gothard had them convinced her temper tantrums were from the evil Disney movies, cabbage patch dolls, etc. NO! It's bc she was a traumatized baby who never felt safe... It breaks my heart the abuse we lived under.... This teaching is barbaric ! Ty for speaking out. Relearning and training my brain from all the crap I grew up learning is so hard... Deconstruction is the hardest thing to go thru... Xo
Deconstruction is devastatingly hard. No one ever talks much about what it costs people and it is quite costly! Hugs to you. My father only spanked me a few times, stopped when he realized he could not break my will.
@@suzannetitkemeyernlq mine broke a 2inch wooden cutting board over my behind at 16.. I left home shortly afterwards
@@raven_heart4you I’m so sorry that happened to you and your sister 💕
The poor child in the car seat probably had motion sickness. I cried every time I was in the car and my parents didn't know why until I was old enough to talk and tell them. Image being miserably sick and getting beaten besides!
This is so terrifying, breaking the child’s spirit
There a special place in hell for Michael pearl karma will hit Michael didn't he have a stroke
He's had several and gone to Florida and other places for treatment.
Who would beat an infant??? Someone who is not a human.
The level of trauma these kids are growing up with… how is this organization not shut down! Where is dcf /CPS?
They teach to never allow any agency into the house. You tell them at the door they need to get off your property, or show up with a warrant.
They showed a clip of the Perls on a show and he said training children and animals are the same.
Reading on Michael Pearl's website of him kicking dogs and cats and terrorizing roosters its pretty clear he thinks they are the same.
@@suzannetitkemeyernlq He is disgraceful and should be locked up for child abuse and animal abuse!
@@suzannetitkemeyernlq People who hurt animals are usually sociopaths (or is it psychopaths?).
I learned in dog training classes that positive reinforcement works much better than punishment. So this isn’t even acceptable dog training.
I'm grateful to not have grown up in an abusive home. I was horrified in college in the mid-'90's when my History of the Non-Western World professor opened my eyes to cultural differences in parenting. He referred to the "cry it out" method, and said how it communicates to the infant "when you moat desperately need me I will not be there." That made a profound impact on me, and THIS appears so much worse. I could argue that's not true (the emotional wounds are harder to see, and harder to heal.) You're describing psychopathic behavior on the part of the adult, and if you wver wonder where it comes from--this is a good recipe for it.
I have hope in the changes in the approaches of prosecutors in recent high-profile cases. They are avoiding the "beliefs" behind them and focusing on the actions that occurred. It has been successful at getting convictions when "but it's our religion" has been an effective defense here is the good ol' "separation of church and state" US
Exposing this nonsense also helps too I think. Focus on what they do, not what they believe.
My precious friend. It doesn't matter what material you used. You still tenderly touch and fix the pillow as though it was a child. You do it every single time. You are instinctually a mother-to your core.
You are so very beautiful. I appreciate you so much. Only you can deliver a message like this. I hate that I understand it so deeply, but I am drawn to you because I do. Love you.
❤️🐦❤️
When Cindy Kunsman asked me to do this video she suggested a baby doll or a stuffed animal and I just could not make myself even think about that because it just seemed too cruel, even as dolls and stuffed animals are inanimate objects.
@suzannetitkemeyernlq Ugh. Just the thought. Sickening! I couldn't have done it either. Plus, to leave that kind of footprint on the internet...I could never.
I honestly can not imagine hitting a child like this. Poor babies. How sad to beat a child into submission
Thank you for doing this video I want to see what it was like
This lady is so wholesome ❤
I'm the oldest of eight kids and had four of my own. The only "training" I've ever heard of is toilet training. And I never even did that, other than my first one. The younger ones just copied the older kids.
My daughter was diagnosed with ITP when she was 7!!!!!
Wow, I hope she's okay now? My daughter 31 years old and has not had a re-occurance beyond the first year
I got 8.5 minutes in and couldn’t watch the rest
Sorry….
Don''t be sorry! It is nauseating stuff. That proves you have a heart unlike people who think this is an acceptable way to treat children.
Michelle Duggar seemed excited about blanket training. She deserves the same treatment.
I couldn't imagine ever striking a poor baby. Someone so defensive and dependent on you. I have to believe theres a certain place in hell for people like that.
I completely stopped giving consequences years ago. None. We would discuss the problem but that was it. No consequences at all. And I have great children.
Also a great parenting technique!
I don’t understand why his kids aren’t messed up. Or are they?
There is evidence his methods haven't helped his children
When I was small, it was called Time Out 😢
I've heard that people are giving you grief for making this video, claiming that it glorifies child abuse. I think whoever said that must have hearing problems and should turn up the volume because they missed the fact that you were informing folks about the practices of many in Gothard's ATI. For those who watched #ShinyHappyPeople, no one would dream that this is what Michelle Duggar described. Had Michelle not mentioned the technique in her book, she would have come under criticism in among her ATI peers. People have a right to know just how dark all of this stuff is.
I believe your video shows how horrible this process is in a way that people must acknowledge, and you make it perfectly clear that you're disgusted and grieved by this, calling it out as flat out evil. How that glorifies anything but God and justice for babies, I know not. We are told to do this in certain churches. We know that. Most people don't want to believe it.
Thank you for making it. It brings me comfort that 11,000 people have seen the truth about what this process entails -- a daily terrorizing of an infant, while you use a pillow. I shudder when I think of the woman in the docuseries who talks about how she had to spank her child all day long. This is what they're talking about.. Some of this stuff you do not really believe until you see it. I didn't believe it until I was told emphatically that it is taught and what some former mothers endured for refusing to do it with their babies.
Rhabdomyolysis- you did very well with the pronunciation and explanation- right now I’m trying to keep from vomiting- I had no idea it was this bad
Thanks
Sending big Zen hugs to you. 👩👩👧👦
Thanks hon, I need them!
good video/explanation of the abuse Suzanne!
I find blaket traning as child abuse when i heard how train to child which led deaths include Hana
Please take my upvote and comment for the algorithm, I'm having a hard time with this one and have to duck out.
Shawna, I wasn't even thorough on this one because of how hard it was. I get it. I just couldn't let that one thing be glossed over in this series.
I have ITP. Imagine the bruises on her and internal bleeding? I have bruises all over and don’t even know where they are from!
Mild bleeding disorder here and holy cow is it easy to get crazy bruises from life in general without getting whipped like this!
World Wide Church of God taught a form of this as well.
It teaches learned helplessness you’re to follow instructions vs having your own opinion. All the parent has to do is give a look and the child knows what the looks mean. You grow up feeling as to never ask anything of anyone therefore you become a magnet for narcissists. You stay hidden and not seen, you learn to be quite and never speak up or stand up for yourself.
Container work and EMDR etc helps and then you relearn to have personal boundaries, which seems so simple but when you’re brainwashed by these sickos something so simple as saying no is so hard to do. Thank you for raising awareness of this
I just seen your comment. I witnessed that teaching also in the WW church of God and the child abuse, also in the Independent Fundamental Baptist church.
@@mel-rosemiller1125 yes it’s awful nothing but cults teach this.
Michael Pearl must be a monster!
His poor children. All the poor kids whose parents bought into this nonsense!
Hope that they find healing. One of his sons had his wife and children leave, and the ex wife got custody of the kids because of this sick discipline the father wanted to do.
This is absolutely crazy
That really did make me physically sick . I totally understand why you couldn’t even use a stuffed animal . So very awful - and so weird that learning to crawl involves moving off the blanket . I couldn’t imagine hitting a child Ike that . Breaking the will is a terrible idea
I like the title A far place with strange fire
this is horrifying, i have an almost 5 year old and an almost 2 year old. They def test us but we usually just take things away like 'no more (insert fav show/toy), youre being bad'. i feel bad for just yelling at them if they push me over the edge. id NEVER do this to them, i grew up with my egg donor beating my father and i would try to stop it and got caught in the cross fire so i grew up not being the biggest fan of my egg donor and I want a good relationship with my boys.
Sounds like you're doing it right to ensure that good relationship
awe, thank you, i def try :)
You were right about the word "rhabdomyolysis." Thought you would want to know! Great and informative video.
Anyone who treats/has treated ANY child like this, and does not repent, is going to hell.
2 months?! Seriously?!
How was the book published )
He self published. About 12 years ago we banded together and tried to get Amazon to remove the book from sale. They refused.
No human should have the right to beat or emotionally torment or torture Any other human…..especially their ow babies. They end up with broken spirits
Well this is some disturbing shit. My brain can't even comprehend this
How many kids do the Pearls have and do they still talk to them?
They have four kids and all of them apparently are close to the parents.
@@suzannetitkemeyernlq I’m surprised they only have four. I wonder how many kids each of them has and if they still believe in and practice all the same stuff their parents did.
Oh my goodness this is horrific. I’m heartbroken 💔 and very angry why are the Pearls not in jail ? !
Its also illegal in Canada.
That's just so vile. I have one medically fragile kid with autism who's never been hit. He's the sweetest teenager you'd ever meet. I can't imagine looking at a baby and wanting to 'break' them.
Happy you didn't raise him that way! I remember just being so dumbfounded when someone at my old church insisted I beat my 4 year old with low platelets.
Me too; I have two ASD teens. When our daughter son was 1 and our daughter was 5; she had just gotten her ASD diagnosis; I was invited to a parenting class .At this the first parenting class they were premoting "that book". I was sick to my stomach and said that I would not continue with the class because I didn't think it was a good fit for my ASD daughter and I. I was told by the leaders who I had known in a previous church and city that "the big book is great for even special needs children" 😡🤢
Thank you for this video Suzanne. I was horrified by this doc. I’m not a big fan of Amy, but when she spoke about how they called their form of discipline “encouragement,” I too got chocked up. Their theology is a complete bastardization of the True Gospel. The whole lot of them are child abusers. The Lord has hewned several millstones for these miscreants. My Jesus taught that fear is a punishment, that our first commandment above all else is to love Him and then love others. The IBLP has corrupted and cherry picked this message to pieces, and weaponized the Word to break spirits. My spirit is beyond grieved and I am so glad that this doc was made. What is done in the dark always comes to the light and the enemy always overplays his hand.
God bless you and I am praying that the Lord will continue to inspire your work for this upcoming book.
Agreed and thank you
While this is very informative, I’m sorry you had to demonstrate this. 💙
I only demonstrated the part with a baby, not the equally horrific advice for young children and older children. The whole book is shameful
Yes! Thankfully, this kind of thing never happened to me, but I was hit and those kind of things stay with you. We have so much data on what trauma does to children and it is made even worse when it happens within the first few years of life by a primary caregiver. This kind of abuse permanently rewires that child's brain. It does lifelong damage that can be physically measured. As you said, there have been several cases where children have died as a direct result of these teachings. Anderson Cooper did a series on the Pearls years ago called Ungodly Discipline. I highly recommend people look it up. He also did some episodes on the IFB more generally and the "troubled teen" homes. Michael Pearl writes about his wedding night and if you ask me, it's pretty clear he SA-ed his wife too,. He's not a good dude. You know you're pretty awful when Zsu Zsu Anderson makes an entire video refuting your book, because it's too far for them. (Her husband being Steven Anderson for folks who might not know; he was literally banned from the UK for being a hate preacher). I don't normally support destroying or banning books, but in his case I would make an exception.
Many years ago many people tried to get Amazon to stop selling the book and they refused. It is a child abuse manual. And you're right, the story of the Anderson's honeymoon sounded horrific
More like torture!
Just awful 😞
Yep, it sure is
I agree with most of this but the other part is parents are not payn attention to what there kid does and I have seen this first hand yes there r parents who go over board with displaying there kids but many more who ignore there kids and they just want attenchen and love
Hearing about this just makes me sick.😢
I heard they did it in the 40s in asiN countries when the mothers had to work in the rice fields and there was no one to watch the baby.
I wouldn’t treat my fair won gold fish that way
Apparently didn’t work with Josh
I don't know if they'd landed on the Pearls abuse tomes when Josh was little, plus he was the golden child if Jill Dillard is to be believed.
I never knew what blanket training was. My children were spanked RARELY when they were little. I have a few who insisted they were abused. What Michael Pearl did was abuse, we disciplined.
It is technically abuse, though our understanding of how profound an impact things that don’t seem abusive can have on children’s long term health is fairly recent, so, it’s difficult to see it that way., plus, it’s not exactly common knowledge. Even something as seemingly innocuous like repetitively invalidating a kid’s feelings can cause serious mental illness in adulthood. May I suggest you ask why they feel that way. Entirely possible your kid is just looking for someone to blame, but, also possible that they were traumatized from it in ways that still impact them. Hope you are able to resolve it.
@@melm295 two of them have serious mental health issues. To them, one smack on a diapered bottom was traumatic. 🙄
@Corky J Cavera I have had multiple children seen by psychiatrists over the years. Some had ADHD, Anxiety. One, diagnosed as BPD, had several ER visits/psych, and treatment at a psychiatric facility. They didn't get this from minimal discipline. There is a history in my family. My Grandmother had schizophrenia.
@@Mary-momof8 ah, the dreaded advanced interrogation techniques ;)
And here’s Bonnie holleine doing the same shit claiming to be a super mom on RUclips. It’s disgusting and disturbing.
I'll have to check her out. It is disturbing and disgusting. I wish no one would ever do this to a precious child
This Michael Pearl sounds like a bit of a sadist. I don’t want to go to his web site because I don’t like evil
Blanket training is disgusting. I'm embarrassed to be in the same state as the Duggars.
Michael Pearl sounds like he has anger issues. Training a child like one would do extreme training of an animal is uncalled for and very abusive in my opinion. That makes me so angry.
He sounds like he likes to inflict pain, sadistic
That's Definitely Disgusting 🤯🤬
Good evening Susan, I really didn't get your name. I watched Shiny,Happy,People. Excellent Docuseries.
I never married nor had children. My parents and Grandma spanked my sister and I. For any reason. I got spanked because I got bad grades. Plus, I I destroyed something I had to replace the item. Fine I agree with that. But, to spank a child because they got a bad grade on a test--no.
Pearl's book is beyond wrong. Plus, People who over read and put to much into Bible need to realize this the 21st Century CE, not the 21st Century BCE. I think when John of Pathmos wrote Revalation, he must have been eating mushrooms. Lots of them. I one time had a Margarita and Opioids, then read Revalation. Made the book much more interesting.
I had a co-worker in the 90s, who took her son to a Therapist who told he could change the child personality by spanking the child several times a day. Once the old personality was gone, he said he one implant a new personality. I told my co-worker to never go back to that Therapist.
I just found your channel. I have subscribed, and click the bell for notifications. I didn't mean to write so much. I am severely ADHD.
Oh yea, here in Southern California if you leave marks on your children, CPS will be at your door.
Have a wonderful Friday
Welcome, glad you are here. Only sorry you had to arrive on this terrible video
Your mom is supposed to save you from such 😢
it"s just sick. how come it's men that come up with this sick shit.
Michael's books should be banned and burned. Does he not know that there are children with special needs who have sensory issues, especially those who autistic and need a different form of discipline? Beating the crap out of your child is not the way to discipline. Sometimes, all it takes it a serious tone, a look, grounding, or removing a privilege that will do it.
Babies cry as a form of communication of what they need. They're not crying to manipulate you and they do neednto be constantly held. It indicates bonding, love, and trust.
And toddlers throw tantrums because they don't have the vocabulary to say what they want or why they're upset. You have to figure out why they're upset, which means that you care andnyou wantnto help them solve the problem.
Beating a toddler or a baby because they're crying non stop doesn't indicate authority or discipline, it just indicates that you're angry and frustrated because they won't stop crying. These kinds of parents are the ones that need blanket training.
This man should not be around children.
You train an animal , you teach a child . smh this is so weird to me.
Agreed it is quite weird!
Jesus loves animals and the Bible tells us to care for the animals. I just read it and I can’t remember what book it was in but either God or Jesus was saying to care for the animals and I believe Jesus will punish animal abusers. We are dog people at my house. My mother was not a animal lover but she would never abuse animals. She cared for them she just didn’t care to deal with them. It’s as wrong to abuse animals as it is to abuse children. This Pearl man and I would have to have words.