New rail plans to no longer reach Ala Moana Center
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- New rail plans to no longer reach Ala Moana Center
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Everyone involved with organizing the rail needs to be investigated and sent to prison??!! This was a huge scam... this corruption is sickening!!!
All that money and you can’t even go to Ala moana.
To save money move Ala Moana closer to South Street. Just a suggestion?
I say everyone involved with the rail should automatically be forced into retirement from any important government job. This "helping the people" type of job is not for them.
Yes I agree. Had they pass this way back when Mayor Fasi bought it to the table it would be functioning today at a way less price tag also, but no instead they waited all these years to approve it. I don’t know what Mufi Hanneman was fricking thinking to bring this up putting the generations in debt to pay for this monstrosity. 🤦🏼♀️
Retirement…more like fired!! What a joke!
Huge waste of money and does nothing to solve the traffic issues. Hawaii is so poorly managed.
They're called Democrats.
FINISH WHAT YOU STARTED!!!!
OTHERWISE, RESIGN.
If they can waste funds on the rail and unable to finish the project. Imagine when they start building the new stadium.
I WAS SHOCKED to hear that THEY'RE demolishing the Stadium for Condominiums.... THE Paradise island is turning into New York City, surrounded by OCEANS...... HOW MANY MILLIONS OF THE HAWAI'IAN TAX PAYERS MONEY IS WASTED WITH EVERY UNFINISHED PROJECT.... These Project's never come in at the Cost discussed at the planning stages. These rail system's always sound fantastic, but, rarely meet the standards and requirements put forth, "WITH THE OH! THAT SOUNDS WONDERFUL --- LET'S DO IT" We also have these Monstrous UNSIGHTLY concrete towers that the Rail is going to Run on..... IN OUR COUNTRY.....
SINCE COVID, NO ONE WANT'S TO USE IT, IT'S NOT CLEANED AND IS FACTUALLY UNHEALTHY... NO WINDOWS, WASTED MONEY....
NEVER DO DEVELOPER'S EVER STOP AND SAY LET'S NOT DO IT... IT'S GOING TO BE COSTLY, UNSIGHTLY - "NON- FUNCTIONAL" ... THAT'S A WORD ISN'T IT.... The GOVERNOR and or MAYOR of Oahu, is it one of their buddies.... or getting kickbacks.....
So the businesses that closed up shop or relocated because of the rail was all for nothing?!?!?!?!?
When? Did this project start at all? When I departed the State in 2009 this was moving forward. Any actual platforms or pillars been erected after 2009? Any progress? Bet King Street is still under repair somewhere. Lol...my Aina.
Yes, it has been over ten years since they’ve been “working” on this.
@@nirvanasunset Mahalo for da update
I’m leaving this year Byron. Glad you escaped. I hope locals fight for this place some day.
@@teralynda Blessings. Me too. Safe travels.
It's already running, NOW, between Kapolei/Ewa and Aloha Stadium/Pearl Harbor.
But it's not open --- yet. They just do "test drives". I've seen it running many times already.
The Pearlridge station looks totally finished. Maybe they're waiting until the Airport station is ready.
Then the entire Ewa branch (Airport to Kapolei/Ewa) could be put into use.
Absolutely ridiculous that it will be cut short. Anyone who has ever been to major European or Asian countries can see how far ahead they are in terms of transit infrastructure. There, the linking of core business districts to outlying areas is efficient: why can't we have that too? The Ala Moana area comprises a huge slice of our economy as a tourism and local business cluster. The location is close to Waikiki and is well suited. This is our loss.
Hello,it costs too much. Why don't you and the other cronies pay the extra 2 billion dollars to get the 2 last stations done. As for those who are in Asia I live in Osaka and catch the train here on weekdays for over an hour. I can vouch that it sucks the living soul right out of you compared to the freedom of driving. Plus they got the land for the tracks and stations bought decades if not hundreds of years ago. Plus they would let people get scammed by the developers and politicians. Plus it's expensive if you buy the monthly pass. It's priced out from station to station is usually over $150 a month. If go to a different stations you pay that separately. It's crowded often you have to stand for an hour in my case. The whining your doing about not making it to Ala Moana it outrageous since you don't even live near the rail to even use it. Statistically 90% or more of the population of the island doesn't live near it but if they even do they don't work anywhere near the other end of it. It's too slow 18 stations in 18 miles estimate a 1 min per station there is no way you from 1 end to the other in an hour No drivers mean more crime. I was groped in Japan by a guy once in rush hour I can't imagine all the potential crimes that will take place on it. And if you think I am just blowing off steam and should not be on your case so hard. I ran for state office in 2010, 2012, & 2014 against rail knowing it was exactly the boondoggle that it has become. The price tag of it and the Dems policies is why I and countless others can't live in my and their own hometown.
Ala Moana must be mad. No more profits from rail customers.
LOL. they gonna make Ala Moana longer.
I was living on oahu when the rail started.. then I moved to Las Vegas for 5 years.. and when I moved back to oahu the rail still wasn't finish.. I been here living on oahu for going on 4 years and the rail still not done.. I'll be moving back to Las Vegas and the rail will not be done when I leave.... lmfao.. and the tax payers are suffering from this rail and the pandemic...
Las Vegas is uniquely suited to rail line.
What a waste. Makes me want to leave and not pay another dime in taxes to this state.
1,000 years later and the rail is still not operational. One of the worst projects to ever take place on this island.
Hahaha 🤣
It has been listed on some RUclips videos as the worst in all the world just by the cost per mile 500 million plus the 2nd place projects are no where near that. The 2031 end date compared to 2017 start date is also one if the worst and it's only 2022 now.
I read an article a while back stating that the Hawaii Rail is considered the greatest construction disaster in modern history.
Finish the damn thing already!
Yeah as soon as you pay for the damn thing yourself already.
A proposal for getting to ala moana cheaply is to just closing down Kona street and just let rail be on ground level in Ala moana. It may seem that drivers can't enter Ala Moana's parking or walk to the center due to the sealed railway but the sheer amount of grade separations such as the many bridges going over Kona street connecting to bypass entrances on Kapiolani and Piikoi Streets that allow entering the center without any contact on Kona Street. This can also allow easier extensions to UH Manoa and Waikiki without the sheer amount of demolition required for a elevated guideway. May save $1-2 billion dollars and makes Ala Moana more walkable, while still having a sealed system for rail.
Also, half of Queen street between Kamakee Street in Ward to Pensacola Street Can be closed as well, especially as the street has up to two to three lanes on the left of the up to 5 lane road. The remaining street can be road dieted to 3 lane by-directional street. In this right-of-way, Rail can be mostly a ground level system, with only 2, small bridges for Piikoi Street and Pensacola Streets with retaining wall viaducts like the ones seen in Leeward Community College. This would save an additional 1 billion dollars, while making large parts of Kakaako walkable. There is many other roads that can be used as bypasses, for the intersections being cut from Queen Street which added up with the bridges would maintain the desired sealed system. It would also discourage many drivers from driving and encourage more rail ridership.
By the time this ridiculous monstrosity of a money pit is done it’ll be outdated concrete cracked and the rail rusted out better to just move the homeless up there and really showcase what this shit show of a state Hawaii is smfh 🙄🔫
Isn't it amazing? Wasn't the mayor the owner of several car dealerships? Why would a guy who sells cars want to limit the rail system. I bet the tire sellers are against the rail too.
Self-driving cars will make the rail redundant perhaps before it's even operational.
They will be self-IDLING cars in rush hour traffic, just like current cars.
That's where rail is better --- no traffic, no traffic jams, not affected by accidents or rush hour.
@Liberty Press More than two thirds of the length is already finished. It's already running between Kapolei and Halawa, albeit "test drives". Pearlridge station looks 100% finished. The total cost is reduced by federal money, so it's not borne by Oahu taxpayers only. It's being done, whether you like it or not. IF managed properly, rail user fees will eventually cover the cost and then generate profit. But that's a very big IF. We'll see what happens.
No more ugly rail
Loose money smh. This whole project is a joke
Should have made and H4 for our Waianae Ohana. They deserve relief more. Junk rail. Scam left over from California tram fails. State gov got scammed. Put it in your pocket.
Is it Induced Demand, where more lanes make more traffic?
WTH 7 years , thats nuts
Who the heck would ride that thing for only a few miles to town? Then from there do they catch the bus? I am speechless.
I would take it, also Alapai Transit Center is within walking distance of the current final stop and its not to far from King and Punchbowl. only the most transferred bus stop of the entire island
The Hawaii Rail is considered the greatest construction disaster in modern history. Look it up.
Should of been Japanese kine monorail. Fit for island salt air. Plus, Japan got the rail thing down
Yup. Japanese would have finished it really quick
There’s no comparing Hawaii’s third world pin heads to Japanese ingenuity that’s just insulting
@@minipoopuu12340 it’s the stupid state of Hawaii government. Steel on steel. Plenty Japanese influence here in Hawaii. Plus, Hawaii not 3rd world. Where have you been? In a cocoon? You obviously know nothing of Hawaii.
They could have used a fraction of the money to build infrastructure to let everyone who could possibly work from home on Oahu to do so. There's no reason in the world for all of those people to jam up the highway and go downtown to sit in a box all day when they can do their work from their kitchen table.
This is game picking train station you like is best first project
Isn’t this an episode of The Simpsons?
Billions of dollars wasted, a rail to nowhere!
What's the over under on trains being vandalized once the public has access to them? Vegas got it at 8 months.
1 year when the homeless start living in them. Place your bets.
Roll Tide!
8 months? Lol, More like 8mins
I want to know where did the money go?
It mostly went into that lose money project.
LOL the Rail to NO WHERE
They need sued for non delivery and fined for taxpayer funds.
i believe it when i see it😅
Suprised?
Europe and Asia have trains and rails that run for hundreds of miles . Hawaii cant even construct 20 miles.
The rail is a joke, only big metropolitan cities have rail system, but n 🏝️ The BUS 🚌 WAS JUST FINE.(UNREAL!
By the time this fiasco is finished we'll all be commuting in a flying vehicle making the railway obsolete.
What a monstrosity which was I’ll conceived from the start. Another blight on what was once an island paradise.
Just wait until the bill comes due for the annual operating cost!
😆 Too funny already. Just trow way and make believe neva happen.😉🙃🤪
Oh is it still being built? LMFAO big fail
It's a bunch of wasted money. Instead of taking care of the homeless problem. Still going get traffic. 😂😂💯💯
what a waste
Why would you want stop there we already paid a lot money just go all the way so stupid
Wth
At least he's doing SOMETHING.
This is what they get for making it over engineered and overpromised if they would have made it a typical light rail running down the middle lane of the road and then some side areas on different paths and only go above grade for sections like the airport and ala Moana Center and maybe Chinatown this could have been simpler and done by now and just have it share some bus stops and some exclusive express lanes than the middle and just use the money for track rebuild the road and markers it could have been still nice out of the way and when ala Moana center was building the new extension they could have built a nice station same with the airport and the transits! I don't get the whole purpose of making the whole system automated and lifted we're trying to keep jobs and make more jobs not make things robotic 🤦
You get it…why couldn’t they?
@@melb2068 my guess no one knows how to drive here and will cause accidents!
Get off rail and catch another bus does it make sense
Bruh the train 7 years for get there? Mo bettah walk. See more.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
In one month !!everyone will be crying for the train… the people that will need to use it won’t be able to afford ten dollar gas to get to work .. it should be open already ..fail fail fail ..
Smh
Ahhh
Big mistake...too short
But something is better than nothing.
A hub and spoke system is what's best for Honolulu.
Middle Street should be the hub, and HART would be just one of the spokes.
At Middle Street, a fleet of express buses would transport passengers to various parts of Honolulu.
With the demise of Love's Bakery, the Middle Street property can be enlarged to allow more buses.
The downtown civic center probably isn't large enough to serve as a hub. What will the passengers transfer to if they need to go to Waikiki or to the UH Manoa? Is there room enough for the buses required during the morning rush hour?