I gotta compliment you man, this video was mesmerizing. Killer opening and some great video work and editing. Loved every minute of it. Thanks for putting it all together for us! BTW, your buddy Joe is plugging you in his latest video.
May I use a adjustable wrench or a particular size wrench to hold the Ford 3.7 engine cam to change the water pump? Any information is very much appreciated!
Is there enough space to remove the engine thru the top with a engine hoist? I know it’s easier to drop the engine but doing a swap at home and not having a car lift only leaves me one way but wanted to see if its possible and that there’s enough space to get it out.
Thank you for the videos. I'm about to tackle this engine trans removal on a wrecked 2015 k8a to put into a 2015 k8a with a bad trans. Any tips on actual removal of the assembly?? All data is so vauge lol
When you did this job none of those parts were on back order and Ford had not yet changed policy regarding repair vs replace. Cost cap certainty would have said long block and if not it’s a low time in service unit. I don’t understand why a long block was used here.
hi how are u i have question i have 2017 esplorer xlt went is hot i hear like a lifter noise click click click like one lifter lose the pressure i take to the dealer they say is the fuel pump pressure solenoid i check don't have noting like the in the injectors line what u recommend me to do
The lifters aren't hydraulic on these engine's, they are solid, they're called direct acting mechanical buckets. If they're making noise the lifters and cams have to be replaced (this is why regular oil changes with the correct oil are important, to prevent premature wear of these components). Another source of your noise could be the cam sprockets, which are the phasers for the variable valve timing, when they are worn they will make a tick or knock at idle when the engine is hot.. the 3 valve 4.6 and 5.4 were notorious for this... Again regular oil changes are important with any modern dohc vvt engine.
Wow!! Only 9000 miles. Do you think it spun a bearing before this happened? My 3.7 Mustang (same engine) spun a bearing at 33000. I listen to me car closely and noticed the rod knocking and have her sitting. Seems like those bearings are a weakness.
Because it’s not his first day or his first rodeo. There is a proper procedure in the wsm. You can set the crankshaft at a position where no piston is at TDC. At that position the cams are installed and torqued. You can then rotate the cams into proper position, install cam holders and rotate the crankshaft to TDC, which would be a fraction of a turn away.
Hi i’m going to buy an interceptor with the same engine ford taurus, used by the police department, please give me some information about what to look forward when i check the engine and what should i expect on 180K miles on it? (I don’t know much about the engines and it’s reliability) and does it have reliable gearbox?
Looks like he has the OTC tool, they are probably a handy tool but its stupid expensive. its 2 pieces of metal that have been CNC cut, and it costs $170? you can get a similar tool from Lisle, but its still $50.
About to tear a couple of these down. Love this kind of video. Only thing missing are audibly saying the torque specs for each thing but people can just look that up
WOW, 6000 miles and a rod broken, at what looks like in the middle of the rod. Was there a defect in the rod or was the officer just turning the engine up tight until it let go?
It's a bit like asking your teenager what happened to the passenger mirror. "Dunno it was there when I parked the car". It's also not as easy to over rev these modern engines unless you can get a massive downshift, and even then most transmissions won't do that either. I would like to see that con rod though. Break in the middle... lots of speculation.
Fyi, the Ford 3.7 rwd engines are durable and tough with an external water pump. Many of mustang owners making 500 whp with a turbo on stock internals. Many of 11-14 3.7 mustang owners driving on the stock sealed motor approaching 300k.
They ARE tough.. But, mine decided to crap out early. I have a Supercharged 3.7 Mustang (external water pump), It spun a bearing at 33,000mi. Time to rebuild or replace.
@@AtticAZ yeah, the rwd 3.7 were fortunate enough to get a external water pump. Pretty bullet proof setup. I’m friend with a person in Sweden who has a Ginetta G55 that uses the 3.7, even sent him a stroker kit from the States. What we found out for some unbeknownst reason Ginnetta uses a fwd engine with the internal water pump instead of the rwd platform. And the same as you the failures are always the internal water pump.
I take it, a 6006 long block assembly was not readily available? Is that why you built up a short block with new heads? I also notice no warranty SLTS times for 3.7L engines, only the 3.5L and 2.3L/3.5L Ecoboost engines. I guess that means it's straight MT time?:)
After doing the cost cap for a block and only 1 head, I was directed to repair. :( Looking up the labor times was kinda like an Easter egg hunt. You have to go in through like a back door. I don't remember at the moment how I got to the times, but it paid right at 20 hours.
Troll Master the 3.5 has a stronger rod and they don't fail often. The rods on these engines don't fail even at 550 hp. Not sure where you got that info. Wrong
That's crazy! Did the piston jettisoning itself from the crank cause any damage to the valves or head? Does the PCM have a black box kind of mode to log what max rpm it hit or anything like that to investigate user error?
The piston hit the valves in the left head so it got replaced as a unit. I don't have access to any of that kind of data on my end, it would be nice to see though, right?
I could have got a long block but there was nothing wrong with the right head and Ford would have accused me of "over repairing" the vehicle and they would have kicked the claim back.
Huh..Now the explorers are unibody and set up like a fwd..man ford really took the suv out of it. Its more like a oddly shaped mini van now. Kind of sad what the Explorer has become Also. Ford dosent use any cam bearings? They just ride in the aluminum like that
That doesn't even look like an actual police interceptor Explorer....plus don't the interceptors come with 3.5 Ecoboosts? I'm surprised warranty covered the whole job if this is the case. Oh well, look forward to the rest of the series!
The regular Explorer's come with a 2.3 Eco or a 3.5 non Eco, the Explorer Sport comes with the 3.5 Eco all wheel drive and the police model is a 3.7 non Eco all wheel drive.
Why does this job look so huge whe some else is doint it..lol And here i was compaining that we dont have the proper engine cradle tool.. First time I seen this engine go with that issue,Its usually the crank bearing wiping out..
Do these non ecoboost 3.7's have any balls? Seems like by the time these police intercepters are all outfitted they would be quite heavy. Not to mention the awd.
lol all of the DOHC SOHC ford v6 engines are mazda engines. my mom's 09 fusion 3.0 dohc v6 is a GREAT engine. most reliable engine i've ever seen. 130,000 miles and all it needed was valve cover gaskets, water pump gasket and tune up.
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I gotta compliment you man, this video was mesmerizing. Killer opening and some great video work and editing. Loved every minute of it. Thanks for putting it all together for us! BTW, your buddy Joe is plugging you in his latest video.
I LOVE new parts!
Hey brad, what was the final torque angle on the head bolts? Looked like 110°?
May I use a adjustable wrench or a particular size wrench to hold the Ford 3.7 engine cam to change the water pump?
Any information is very much appreciated!
Usually if its catastrophic failure like this one it gets a long block, do you have to go through prior approval after submitting the cost cap?
Is there enough space to remove the engine thru the top with a engine hoist? I know it’s easier to drop the engine but doing a swap at home and not having a car lift only leaves me one way but wanted to see if its possible and that there’s enough space to get it out.
Thank you for the videos. I'm about to tackle this engine trans removal on a wrecked 2015 k8a to put into a 2015 k8a with a bad trans. Any tips on actual removal of the assembly?? All data is so vauge lol
Haha. Putting something together then taking it back apart. Glad I ain't the only one that does that.
When you did this job none of those parts were on back order and Ford had not yet changed policy regarding repair vs replace. Cost cap certainty would have said long block and if not it’s a low time in service unit. I don’t understand why a long block was used here.
Have you tried any digital torque angle gauges? I just got a magnetic one and it's the friggin business!
I use em at school, but here at the dealer everything is pretty much a 90 degree turn, so I eyeball it.
hi how are u i have question
i have 2017 esplorer xlt
went is hot i hear like a lifter noise click click click like one lifter lose the pressure i take to the dealer they say is the fuel pump pressure solenoid
i check don't have noting like the in the injectors line
what u recommend me to do
The lifters aren't hydraulic on these engine's, they are solid, they're called direct acting mechanical buckets. If they're making noise the lifters and cams have to be replaced (this is why regular oil changes with the correct oil are important, to prevent premature wear of these components). Another source of your noise could be the cam sprockets, which are the phasers for the variable valve timing, when they are worn they will make a tick or knock at idle when the engine is hot.. the 3 valve 4.6 and 5.4 were notorious for this... Again regular oil changes are important with any modern dohc vvt engine.
Wow!! Only 9000 miles. Do you think it spun a bearing before this happened? My 3.7 Mustang (same engine) spun a bearing at 33000. I listen to me car closely and noticed the rod knocking and have her sitting. Seems like those bearings are a weakness.
How do you know that you're not gonna bend a valve when you turn on the crank or cams trying to get it in time?
Because it’s not his first day or his first rodeo. There is a proper procedure in the wsm.
You can set the crankshaft at a position where no piston is at TDC. At that position the cams are installed and torqued. You can then rotate the cams into proper position, install cam holders and rotate the crankshaft to TDC, which would be a fraction of a turn away.
Hi i’m going to buy an interceptor with the same engine ford taurus, used by the police department, please give me some information about what to look forward when i check the engine and what should i expect on 180K miles on it? (I don’t know much about the engines and it’s reliability) and does it have reliable gearbox?
levan trapaidze
DON’T 💰💰💰 Pit🤥
That's a slick little tool to hold the camshafts in alignment. Bet you can't set the valve timing without it. Right?
It can be done but it's a real pisser.
Looks like he has the OTC tool, they are probably a handy tool but its stupid expensive. its 2 pieces of metal that have been CNC cut, and it costs $170? you can get a similar tool from Lisle, but its still $50.
About to tear a couple of these down. Love this kind of video. Only thing missing are audibly saying the torque specs for each thing but people can just look that up
WOW, 6000 miles and a rod broken, at what looks like in the middle of the rod. Was there a defect in the rod or was the officer just turning the engine up tight until it let go?
I have resigned to the fact that we may never know.
It's a bit like asking your teenager what happened to the passenger mirror. "Dunno it was there when I parked the car". It's also not as easy to over rev these modern engines unless you can get a massive downshift, and even then most transmissions won't do that either. I would like to see that con rod though. Break in the middle... lots of speculation.
Fyi, the Ford 3.7 rwd engines are durable and tough with an external water pump. Many of mustang owners making 500 whp with a turbo on stock internals. Many of 11-14 3.7 mustang owners driving on the stock sealed motor approaching 300k.
They ARE tough.. But, mine decided to crap out early. I have a Supercharged 3.7 Mustang (external water pump), It spun a bearing at 33,000mi. Time to rebuild or replace.
@@AtticAZ yeah, the rwd 3.7 were fortunate enough to get a external water pump. Pretty bullet proof setup.
I’m friend with a person in Sweden who has a Ginetta G55 that uses the 3.7, even sent him a stroker kit from the States. What we found out for some unbeknownst reason Ginnetta uses a fwd engine with the internal water pump instead of the rwd platform. And the same as you the failures are always the internal water pump.
I thought these Explorers came with a 3.5L V6 but you referenced a 3.7L?
So, am I confused or did you make a mistake (typo)?
Police package is a 3.7L
3.5 is optional. Twin turbo and about 90 more hp.
I take it, a 6006 long block assembly was not readily available? Is that why you built up a short block with new heads? I also notice no warranty SLTS times for 3.7L engines, only the 3.5L and 2.3L/3.5L Ecoboost engines. I guess that means it's straight MT time?:)
After doing the cost cap for a block and only 1 head, I was directed to repair. :( Looking up the labor times was kinda like an Easter egg hunt. You have to go in through like a back door. I don't remember at the moment how I got to the times, but it paid right at 20 hours.
7:59 skipped a headbolt
can someone explain how the rod breaks for no apparent reason?
Hell On wheels
Ford’s don’t even make it out of warranty🤥 Using cheap Chinese Steel alloys🤥
PMR (powder metal connecting rods) it is a common failure in these Ford 3.5/3.7 V6 engines.
Troll Master the 3.5 has a stronger rod and they don't fail often. The rods on these engines don't fail even at 550 hp. Not sure where you got that info. Wrong
lucian kristov I have the 3.5l and had a rod failure due to poor manufacturing but mine had 295,000 miles on it
That's crazy! Did the piston jettisoning itself from the crank cause any damage to the valves or head?
Does the PCM have a black box kind of mode to log what max rpm it hit or anything like that to investigate user error?
The piston hit the valves in the left head so it got replaced as a unit. I don't have access to any of that kind of data on my end, it would be nice to see though, right?
0ttoman
No Ford’s self destruct in or out of warranty🤥
This poor guy..this is a nightmare for everyone...
Whatcha mean?
Sorry, on my comment about the head bolts I meant 220°
Keen eye my friend.....225 degrees.
Torque:
Stage 1: 177 lb.in (20 Nm)
Stage 2: 26 lb.ft (35 Nm)
Stage 3: 90°
Stage 4: 90°
Stage 5: 45°
Ford dosent send a long block?
I could have got a long block but there was nothing wrong with the right head and Ford would have accused me of "over repairing" the vehicle and they would have kicked the claim back.
Another powdered metal connecting rod bites the dust.
wysetech2000 As I look through the internet, it is an epidemic. There was a dealer that already had 22 engines with cracked rods.
Brings back memories of the old 3.8l heads in the Taurus , Sable, Windstar, and Continental. Good times....
Made lots of money off them things!
Ray Vanni
Good times in the shop🤥
That fan...
Huh..Now the explorers are unibody and set up like a fwd..man ford really took the suv out of it. Its more like a oddly shaped mini van now. Kind of sad what the Explorer has become
Also. Ford dosent use any cam bearings? They just ride in the aluminum like that
Remember when Uhaul wouldn't rent trailers if they were pulled by explorers? Making it an oversized FWD car was probably the right move...
switching back to rwd in 2020
That doesn't even look like an actual police interceptor Explorer....plus don't the interceptors come with 3.5 Ecoboosts? I'm surprised warranty covered the whole job if this is the case. Oh well, look forward to the rest of the series!
The regular Explorer's come with a 2.3 Eco or a 3.5 non Eco, the Explorer Sport comes with the 3.5 Eco all wheel drive and the police model is a 3.7 non Eco all wheel drive.
flmmaz I stand corrected. Thanks
No problem.
3.5 was optional. Twin turbo, 90 more hp. Most cop explorers have the 3.7 non turbo. No slouch in its own right.
Why does this job look so huge whe some else is doint it..lol
And here i was compaining that we dont have the proper engine cradle tool..
First time I seen this engine go with that issue,Its usually the crank bearing wiping out..
long live the vic
What, no video diagnosing the connecting rod was at fault? How do we know you're not just throwing parts at it? Bwahahaha
Is this the same (Mazda 6 ) 2012 (3.7) engine?
Yes
The shadow
Junk engines. Mazda already got rid of those engines long time ago. Ford look at that 3.5 and 3.7 engine as a income generator🤥🤥🤥 💰 Pit
Same as the V6 Mustang too. Pretty simple engine to work on.
Do these non ecoboost 3.7's have any balls? Seems like by the time these police intercepters are all outfitted they would be quite heavy. Not to mention the awd.
It does alright, same engine as the Mustang V-6.
I agree. I have a 2016 PIU non turbo and it's about as fast as the Crown Vic. 302 HP from the 3.7 is enough
Built ford junk tough
Cough Chrysler cough
Ford makes JUNK 6 cylinder engines,period...
lol all of the DOHC SOHC ford v6 engines are mazda engines. my mom's 09 fusion 3.0 dohc v6 is a GREAT engine. most reliable engine i've ever seen. 130,000 miles and all it needed was valve cover gaskets, water pump gasket and tune up.
It maybe safer to say, if you baby the engine it will last.
Well, isn’t that with any engine? Or could it be another boat anchor? Lol.
My 2008 Ford Taurus X V6 is doing fine at more than 200,000 miles. Just standard maintenance done to the engine.