What I did several years ago to make my % go from 50/50 to 90%+ is I also walk towards the 10 pin slightly diagonal on the approach. Works on leagues, tournament, or Nationals conditions.
Yeah, I thought your were supposed to turn your whole body and walk at the target pin, not just turn your waist and walk straight forward like he does.
@@Dainslaif I tried both. Seen pros and top amateurs walk straight to the line no matter what and adjust open waist and swing angle, etc. I found that to be more variables than needed. I basically stand on 40 aim at the 20 board exactly and nail the 10 pin with end over end roll 90%+ of the time. The only time I miss is when I change any of that process causing me to miss my mark. Basically if my ball rolls over the 20 board at the dots, I nail the 10 pin head on. Also allows me to adjust for the infamous 6-7-10 split which I can pick up at a high rate.
I struggled with this for years and finally say a video similar to this that said aim your body towards the 10 pin and walk to the line. Percentages went way up. I still miss on occasion, but I am no longer pulling the balls when I miss. This video confirms what I have been doing. Great video. Thanks!
@@TaylorMadeMob95yeah I miss every now and then but usually because of lack of concentration or thumb issue. But yeah this technique has worked really well since I started using it a few years ago.
Nice. I will take this idea with me to this weekend's tournament. A month ago at a practice session I made a concerted effort to throw my straight ball faster at the cursed 10 pin, to avoid the slight hook that makes me miss by a centimeter and thereby inspires the urge to bang my head through the floor. That has helped me bigly to the point that now I don't particularly fear the 10 pin. The other day my only 2 spares were both 10 pin pickups that kept my game clean.
When I bowled and had to spare a ten pin I lined up my shoulders and hips in line with the target that I wanted to roll the ball over. It all depended on how oily or dry the lane was all because I was afraid that even at the speed that I would use the shoot the ten pin I might cause the ball to slide into the gutter. My target was always somewhere between the third arrow on the left side and the third arrow on the right side. Between those two arrows I could accurately hit the ten pin the majority of the time. Nelson Burton Jr. even taught that you keep your shoulders and your hips lined up to your target. Nelson Burton Jr. always said that you use that alignment no matter if it is a strike ball or a spare ball.
While I do miss 10 pins sometimes, I've never had a really hard time with them. When I hear from other people how much they despise the 10 pin spare, I never understood why. It turns out, the way I naturally bowl matches what you're explaining in this video. For once, I'm doing something in bowling the right way! I'll pass it along to friends, now that I'm aware of the trick!
I chuckle when people say they hate the 10 pin; and, I tell them you'll probably never average 200 or higher because you've mentally defeated yourself. Many years I was 90-95% making ten pins because it was the one leave I developed a dependable way to make them, and for a long time it was my favorite spare. Certainly I wanted to carry more of them for higher scores, but I never despised them. Good info in this vid.
Thank you Rob i’m doing this for quite a while and it works pretty well. My problem lays on the right lanes when the Ballreturn hinders me from going far enough left. But i teach my students exactly what you recommended. It’s a great tip.
nice, i'm left handed and do that from the other side to shoot the 7 pin. i line up by the right gutter and roll an end over end drop wrist cross alley straight ball over the middle arrow to the 7 pin and hopefully make the spare.
I started bowling in leagues in 1979. Back then they hadn't invented spare balls yet so we had to throw our hooking ball at the 10 pin, which made it challenging especially with the right lane because the ball return could be in the way. I consider myself a good 10 pin thrower, it is my favorite common spare to pickup. But I have always squared myself to the lane so I am in the correct spot when I release the ball. Ever since the advent of spare balls I haven't thought about angling like in the video because I don't start on the far left of the lane. I just throw the ball slightly to the right.
@@LaneSideReviews At 67 I can't change. I probably make 10 pins over 90% of the time, average 210+, and never practice so don't want to mess up in league trying new things. On our team there is a financial punishment for missing one pin spares.
@@jameskinchen2148 My first ball in 1979 was a black rubber Johnny Petraglia LT-48. In the 1980s I gave it to a friend so he could sub on our team. In 2004 I was visiting them and he gave it back so it is the only old ball I still have. It has my initials on it. Back then many balls looked the same so they did that so you could tell which was yours.
@@LaneSideReviews I actually only left one 10 pin for the 3 game series. The ball rolled off into the gutter and I missed it by inches but there's always next Tuesday to continue to work on it and improve.
Missing the 10 by a centimeter is "bang my head through the floor" time when it hooks away just enough. I have increased the speed of my spare ball going after the 10 lately and now I don't particularly fear it. Picked up 2 out of 2 the other day to keep my game clean.
I have been lining up my body for 10 pin spares for a long time. I'm going to start paying attention to where the outer edge of my left heel is. I'm thinking this will get me lined up at the same angle consistently. I feel like I'm pretty close each time, but if I can improve the consistency of the angle I'm at, it will translate to an increased conversion rate.
@@LaneSideReviews My average sucks, but when I get a strike I can feel relieved and say "saved an open". Thanks guys for your videos, especially those that feature "old guy Wayne". Keep up the good work.
Going to state the obvious, but does this apply to a strike ball when way inside the lane? On my 10 pins, I either hit it perfectly, or miss so much that the ball never comes close. I do square up my body to the lane for every throw, so I’m definitely going to give this a try!
So I line up square to my target. Do I still walk towards the lane parallel (if I start on the 30 board, do I release the ball on the 30 board), or do I walk in the direction I'm square to? As I move left and need to make wider angles, I struggle to hit my mark more. I'm guessing this helps with those adjustments as well? I was taught 20 years ago to be rigid and square to the lane at all times. It's been so hard to unlearn it all 😅
I'm a new bowler for only a year. I am right-handed, and hitting the 7 pin is no problem for me. I have a hook ball that curves to the left. I don't have to angle my body a certain way, etc. Just throw it up the 33rd board, and the ball hooks 'naturally' left at the top of the lane to hit the 7 pin. I don't need to rotate it. Is there a ball for right-hand bowlers that naturally hooks to the right so that I can throw it up, maybe the 10th board, and it naturally curves into the 10 pin at the top of the lane?
unfortunately, No. Not everyone can throw a backup ball at the ten-pin. It's more consistent to throw a straighter ball across the lane at it, that way the oil pattern (or lack of oil) doesn't affect the ball as much.
This is the question I always have. I saw a video of Del Ballard saying to walk right at the ten and seven pins, and I've seen videos telling you to walk straight. (while trying to keep yourself facing the pin?) Never really answered. It's always kind of vague.
Yes and No. You angle your body, but walk towards the line. Your Hips follow your shoulders, which follow your feet. When you get to the line, you should have walked in a pretty straight line, however, your hips and shoulders will end up slightly open when you finish. This will create the space for the ball to pass below your head, and will create more launch angle at release. Don't TRY to walk towards the ten pin though. Let your body do what it normally does.
@@LaneSideReviews yes, I ran the numbers and it’s a 1/500 shot for a pro for one try Walter Ray was 664/664 one PBA season for single pins, he probably has done it multiple times But most pros probably not
@LaneSideReviews once I get to sport depending on pattern yes. I noticed Belmo starting to throw back up at some spares now. And the great Norm Duke always had a little back up rotation with his ball
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What I did several years ago to make my % go from 50/50 to 90%+ is I also walk towards the 10 pin slightly diagonal on the approach. Works on leagues, tournament, or Nationals conditions.
Absolutely!
Yeah, I thought your were supposed to turn your whole body and walk at the target pin, not just turn your waist and walk straight forward like he does.
@@Dainslaif I tried both. Seen pros and top amateurs walk straight to the line no matter what and adjust open waist and swing angle, etc. I found that to be more variables than needed. I basically stand on 40 aim at the 20 board exactly and nail the 10 pin with end over end roll 90%+ of the time. The only time I miss is when I change any of that process causing me to miss my mark. Basically if my ball rolls over the 20 board at the dots, I nail the 10 pin head on. Also allows me to adjust for the infamous 6-7-10 split which I can pick up at a high rate.
I struggled with this for years and finally say a video similar to this that said aim your body towards the 10 pin and walk to the line. Percentages went way up. I still miss on occasion, but I am no longer pulling the balls when I miss. This video confirms what I have been doing. Great video. Thanks!
@@TaylorMadeMob95yeah I miss every now and then but usually because of lack of concentration or thumb issue. But yeah this technique has worked really well since I started using it a few years ago.
I'm gonna try this. Thank you. I've been throwing a semi backup ball at the 10-pin to reduce the hook. Sometimes it works.
You may find that even throwing backup is easier with this. It really helps make space under the body
Nice. I will take this idea with me to this weekend's tournament. A month ago at a practice session I made a concerted effort to throw my straight ball faster at the cursed 10 pin, to avoid the slight hook that makes me miss by a centimeter and thereby inspires the urge to bang my head through the floor. That has helped me bigly to the point that now I don't particularly fear the 10 pin. The other day my only 2 spares were both 10 pin pickups that kept my game clean.
My local pro taught me this a while back and I've since completely ditched my spare ball. I really only ever used it on naked 10s anyway.
Once you figure it out, you should be able to do it with any ball. Your PSO was wise!
Excellent and simple vid. As a Classic Full Roller we were always taught to align our body towards our target pins.
It seems to be a forgotten trick.
When I bowled and had to spare a ten pin I lined up my shoulders and hips in line with the target that I wanted to roll the ball over. It all depended on how oily or dry the lane was all because I was afraid that even at the speed that I would use the shoot the ten pin I might cause the ball to slide into the gutter. My target was always somewhere between the third arrow on the left side and the third arrow on the right side. Between those two arrows I could accurately hit the ten pin the majority of the time.
Nelson Burton Jr. even taught that you keep your shoulders and your hips lined up to your target. Nelson Burton Jr. always said that you use that alignment no matter if it is a strike ball or a spare ball.
Nelson is a smart man!
Great Video. Wish you guys did more of these type of coaching tip video’s. Simple, short and right to the point.
More to come! We're working on it!
While I do miss 10 pins sometimes, I've never had a really hard time with them. When I hear from other people how much they despise the 10 pin spare, I never understood why.
It turns out, the way I naturally bowl matches what you're explaining in this video. For once, I'm doing something in bowling the right way! I'll pass it along to friends, now that I'm aware of the trick!
Some things are more intuitive to people than others! You were born with an eye (or mind) for good body position!
I chuckle when people say they hate the 10 pin; and, I tell them you'll probably never average 200 or higher because you've mentally defeated yourself.
Many years I was 90-95% making ten pins because it was the one leave I developed a dependable way to make them, and for a long time it was my favorite spare. Certainly I wanted to carry more of them for higher scores, but I never despised them. Good info in this vid.
Used it last night didn’t miss a 10 pin or 3610! Awesome thanks
Nice work! Glad we could help!
Thank you Rob i’m doing this for quite a while and it works pretty well. My problem lays on the right lanes when the Ballreturn hinders me from going far enough left. But i teach my students exactly what you recommended. It’s a great tip.
Thanks Willy!
super small 4 step approach, or even just work on a 1 or 2 step approach so you're comfortable when at a center with super close ball returns.
nice, i'm left handed and do that from the other side to shoot the 7 pin. i line up by the right gutter and roll an end over end drop wrist cross alley straight ball over the middle arrow to the 7 pin and hopefully make the spare.
This tip works for lefties too. Just tilt your heels towards your target!
Love it! Simple and to the point. Thanks!
Thanks!!
I started bowling in leagues in 1979. Back then they hadn't invented spare balls yet so we had to throw our hooking ball at the 10 pin, which made it challenging especially with the right lane because the ball return could be in the way. I consider myself a good 10 pin thrower, it is my favorite common spare to pickup. But I have always squared myself to the lane so I am in the correct spot when I release the ball. Ever since the advent of spare balls I haven't thought about angling like in the video because I don't start on the far left of the lane. I just throw the ball slightly to the right.
Hopefully this will give you something to try! Let us know how you make out!
@@LaneSideReviews At 67 I can't change. I probably make 10 pins over 90% of the time, average 210+, and never practice so don't want to mess up in league trying new things. On our team there is a financial punishment for missing one pin spares.
Which balls were these that were hooking in 1979? A rubber Dick Weber Powerball? I use a Gyro II from 1979 as my spare ball now.
@@jameskinchen2148 My first ball in 1979 was a black rubber Johnny Petraglia LT-48. In the 1980s I gave it to a friend so he could sub on our team. In 2004 I was visiting them and he gave it back so it is the only old ball I still have. It has my initials on it. Back then many balls looked the same so they did that so you could tell which was yours.
@@drwisdom1 They used to engrave names or initials. Now nobody could be bothered. Not good for colorblind person like me.
word. I'll keep this in mind during league tomorrow night.
Let us know how it works!
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@@LaneSideReviews I actually only left one 10 pin for the 3 game series. The ball rolled off into the gutter and I missed it by inches but there's always next Tuesday to continue to work on it and improve.
It was identical to Kyle Sherman's miss on the final ball vs. Packy Hanrahan yesterday.
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I will work on this the next time I practice.
That's the best time to try something new!
Called a heel adjustment which you do when you move left as lanes dry out
Also called the Hip shift, Heel Shift, and Body Shift. There are lots of names for it, but for some reason not everyone knows it.
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I am the worst in the world in knocking down the 10-pin! I challenge anyone to prove me otherwise. :)o Thanks for the tip. I will try it.
Missing the 10 by a centimeter is "bang my head through the floor" time when it hooks away just enough. I have increased the speed of my spare ball going after the 10 lately and now I don't particularly fear it. Picked up 2 out of 2 the other day to keep my game clean.
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LOL! That escalated quickly!
I have been lining up my body for 10 pin spares for a long time. I'm going to start paying attention to where the outer edge of my left heel is. I'm thinking this will get me lined up at the same angle consistently. I feel like I'm pretty close each time, but if I can improve the consistency of the angle I'm at, it will translate to an increased conversion rate.
It's all about consistency and repeatability! The easier you make it, the easier it is to do!
My trick is to throw strikes. Simple, easy, and I never lament missing a 10 pin when I throw a strike.
Some people are blessed! I've never been able to average 300 for a season, so I'm impressed! LOL!
@@LaneSideReviews My average sucks, but when I get a strike I can feel relieved and say "saved an open". Thanks guys for your videos, especially those that feature "old guy Wayne". Keep up the good work.
thanks I need that,,,,, I hate 10 pins !!!
that 2nd shot is how it always goes when I go for the 10-pin even though I always am slightly facing the 10-pin
Could be your swing plane. Get some video!
@@LaneSideReviews I got one on my page of this exact thing. also others from this last season.
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Thank you!
Going to state the obvious, but does this apply to a strike ball when way inside the lane? On my 10 pins, I either hit it perfectly, or miss so much that the ball never comes close. I do square up my body to the lane for every throw, so I’m definitely going to give this a try!
The closer you get to the gutter on the ball-side, the more you should square up your shoulders.
Excellent tip and excellent pre-shot booty shake!
We couldn't help pointing it out.
So I line up square to my target. Do I still walk towards the lane parallel (if I start on the 30 board, do I release the ball on the 30 board), or do I walk in the direction I'm square to?
As I move left and need to make wider angles, I struggle to hit my mark more. I'm guessing this helps with those adjustments as well?
I was taught 20 years ago to be rigid and square to the lane at all times. It's been so hard to unlearn it all 😅
Just change the alignment of your feet. Walk normally towards your target.
Your ball will follow your hips, which follows your shoulders.
I'm a new bowler for only a year. I am right-handed, and hitting the 7 pin is no problem for me. I have a hook ball that curves to the left. I don't have to angle my body a certain way, etc. Just throw it up the 33rd board, and the ball hooks 'naturally' left at the top of the lane to hit the 7 pin. I don't need to rotate it. Is there a ball for right-hand bowlers that naturally hooks to the right so that I can throw it up, maybe the 10th board, and it naturally curves into the 10 pin at the top of the lane?
unfortunately, No. Not everyone can throw a backup ball at the ten-pin. It's more consistent to throw a straighter ball across the lane at it, that way the oil pattern (or lack of oil) doesn't affect the ball as much.
It appears that you point your feet and shoulders to the right, but you walk straight, correct?
This is the question I always have. I saw a video of Del Ballard saying to walk right at the ten and seven pins, and I've seen videos telling you to walk straight. (while trying to keep yourself facing the pin?) Never really answered. It's always kind of vague.
Yes and No. You angle your body, but walk towards the line. Your Hips follow your shoulders, which follow your feet. When you get to the line, you should have walked in a pretty straight line, however, your hips and shoulders will end up slightly open when you finish. This will create the space for the ball to pass below your head, and will create more launch angle at release. Don't TRY to walk towards the ten pin though. Let your body do what it normally does.
Once I've chosen which board I want to roll over, I walk directly toward it. Why wouldn't you?
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What if I make all my ten pins, how can I still increase my average by 10-20 pins?
Using this technique helps with 10 pins, moving laterally, and much more.
I made 107 in a row
But I am one of 3000 PBA members
That's a good stat, even for the pba.
@@LaneSideReviews yes, I ran the numbers and it’s a 1/500 shot for a pro for one try
Walter Ray was 664/664 one PBA season for single pins, he probably has done it multiple times
But most pros probably not
There are days that I would actually like to throw the 10 pin.
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I’ll still miss it
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@@LaneSideReviews your welcome
I cheat on House Shot and throw a back up ball
You know, you can do both!
@LaneSideReviews once I get to sport depending on pattern yes. I noticed Belmo starting to throw back up at some spares now. And the great Norm Duke always had a little back up rotation with his ball
I find it hard to believe that any bowler can’t work this out on their own,i did. It’s not that hard take the hook off your ball!
You're just a fast learner! Not everyone knows, or is skilled enough, to do what you did. Awesome job!
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