Thanks for the advice! Have been struggling with this for years. I can do it in no step and 1 step drills but full approach it feels impossible. Will try next practice session.
One of the BEST coaches in the game! I have attended many PBA tournaments, both national and regional, and one of my very favorite victories of all was watching JR when a regional at Pinheads and his son was with him having the time of his life. It was a great day! Thank you JR for sharing this video as once again you are absolutely correct.
I use 15 lbs. dumbbells at home to practice, allowing my swing to fall freely. This has helped me greatly to not only tune into what that feels like but also to help me program my neuro pathways to execute that movement each and every time without having to think about it. Thank you for all of the content. Your channel is helping me to become a better bowler.
Great idea! I'm a relatively new bowler. I'm using a 15. I have naturally strong wrists and forearms so I think I'm trying to use my strength and not technique.
@jonathanjohnson3846 Yea, this is where it has massively helped me. I lift weights, and it naturally just made me want to muscle the ball. Doing this helped me to free up my swing and stop muscling the ball. It is a feel thing.
Thanks JR for this great tip. Body language really makes a big difference. I started out with a 14lb ball as recommended by the shop but I thought the ball was too heavy for my hand which I thought was the reason why I couldn't get hand under ball so I ended-up getting a 2nd 12lb ball. Allowing the ball to fall during the swing allows the momentum of the ball and your hand to get back in position rather than to pull it down and then losing control. Reminds me of the pirate ship ride- once the boat levels out of it's pendulum swing, it's perfectly parallel back to the ground. Makes perfectly sense! I will try this tonight along with focusing to keep my upper body upright without any lean as well as allowing swing path of ball to be in line with my head. I think this will also fix my tendencies of my arm to go cross-body on release which I think I may also be releasing the ball too late. Too many parts/pieces to put together but after 3 months of bowling it's all starting to make sense now. I do have the yo-yo release now but my rev-rate is so slow. Another problem to fix another time.
You said “spine tilt” and my mind flashed to every time I’ve almost fallen onto the lane. This is the exact video I needed 😭😭 thank you so much! I will work more on this today!
I'm only just trying out hooking the ball and can't get it to work one handed, but I'm absolutely pulling the ball down with my swing like you say, and hadn't even considered letting it drop and to get under/behind the ball like that.. such a simple tip that could really change everything
I knew I should’ve asked you for advice when I was bowling one set of lanes over from you on Saturday in Ionia. I’ve always struggled getting under the ball and I know this will change my game as soon as I can pick it up. Thank you!
This helped me tremendously I'm bowling my first season in league we are 15 weeks in and this pass Monday at league I bowled my new personal best I got a 600 scratch and I know there's plenty of room for improvement but it felt good knowing I'm on the right track and improving along the way. Thanks for these videos.
Excellent advice , I’ve been struggling the past few weeks and felt myself coming up ( and my ball reaction has been atrocious ) . I think you solved my issue JR , thank you !
Thanks JR I'm a 2 hander and just recently decided that I wanted to try 1 handed bowling. Took an idol cosmos and plugged/drilled it with what my pso said was a standard fingertip layout. I can't get the ball to hook for the life of me.
I’ve been looking for reasons that I can’t get under the ball for YEARS… this is the first time hearing this so I will definitely work this into my game 🤘🏼
Thanks for this video thought these were all my issues but after buying the TNT Infused the other day, I've come to see that I need bigger inserts. A lot easier with my fingers further into the holes!
Highlighted a number of my faults in the video- thanks for the affirmation. A question- took a lesson a couple of years ago from USBC silver who had me uncock my hand at address (so fingers below the forearm line) but I don’t know what it was supposed to accomplish - maybe help stay behind it on the push away ? Have tried unsuccessfully to touch base with him again. Any idea what that move might do ? I am bowling better this year. Thanks !
Thanks JR, I’ve been watching you for sometime now. Love the tips and lessons and reviews. I’m all the way in Australia. Might send you one of my videos to get some pointers.
I’ve been searching for this exact advice for weeks. Then I stop searching for it and you show up on my feed. 😂 thanks lad. I’m gonna go out tonight and try that.
It was the last detail I feel hit home for me. Because I've notice, that as a lefty, the more I move right with my feet my body instinctually leans a little more forward which I feel allows me to get around it a little easier.
I am going to try this next time I practice. After watching this I now see why I was having issues last time I played. I kept bending my back over slightly during my release 🤦♂️
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Thank you very much appreciated. Excellent teacher
This is great info I didnt realize that being more upright would do that. I got a pretty high swing that's very free but I know I have always had a fair amount of forward spine tilt. This is something I will try this weekend shout out from hartland
JR--I wear a wrist support, which tends to force my hand around the ball. Do you have any suggestions that can help me stay behind the ball while still wearing the support? Thank you
JR, i am recovering from back and surgeries and having to bowl with a 1 step approach. I try to stay behind and under the ball but could use some help to improve. Can you help me with this issue?
What if you’ve had your labrum, rotator cuff, clavicle and bicep tendon surgery? I can turn my wrist to the inside but not more than maybe 1”. How can I still keep my hand inside?
Been working on staying under the ball and good so far but when i add the movement to direct the revs the right way i release it so bad and very inconsistent. Sometimes i can get it right and then i have a beautiful strike but VERY inconsistent. Any tips?
Why does spine tilt make a difference? Your hand is on top of the ball when it's 45 degrees behind you, but that should be true even if you're upright. What matters is only at the bottom of the swing, right?
I can always feel this thanks to my friend/coach. Will always remember his words of wisdom whenever I leaned too far forward "Fuzzy, get your tits off the lane!" 😂
good stuff here, sadly the dungeons I bowl at hook at your toe and getting more under it is not the answer, still having this in your bag of tricks is a good idea when you hit some oil.
Me 20 years ago: "I want to be a better swing dancer." My teachers when I was learning how to swing dance: "You need to bend your knees more, it looks better in the dance." Me: "I racked my knees taking all kinds of ground balls playing baseball as a teen and they don't bend easily anymore." Me now: "Bowling seems like a nice, low-impact sport I can do into old age. But I can't seem to master getting a lot of hook." This video: "You need to bend your knees more to get more hook." Me: "Dammit."
I like rhis one to get under the ball this is easy and i know you all going to laugh but its ok in not ever going to chang this i use my pinky finger you do this you'll have a good grip of your ball and more controll of your throwing i done this 50 years like i said I'll never will change rhis
Thanks for the tip JR! I drop the ball from the top of my swing. I have no issues with keeping my hand under the ball. My 2 cents for folks having this issue... use a lighter ball OR get to the gym and strengthen your arm from shoulder to wrist. Folks who think they can perform optimally w/o working out are mistaken. All the guys on tour are gym rats.
hmmm. AJ johnson and darren tang and byron smith might be doing it wrong for so long. Marshall H might be wrong too?. You can lean as much as you want but you can't rotate the shoulder to the line. Please send this link to Simonsen, verper and packy. they're all wrong... careful how you heed advice.
This is gold. Such a small detail, but can make a huge impact. GOLD!
I agree!!!
Yeah my school coach has been telling me not to force the ball but this really helps explain why
Thanks for the advice! Have been struggling with this for years. I can do it in no step and 1 step drills but full approach it feels impossible. Will try next practice session.
That's where I am. When I isolate the feeling in a drill, I can do it all day. Full approach? Totally falls apart. Very frustrating.
@@die7foxI feel you there… so frustrating
@@die7fox yeah practiced a bit today and still no luck, my approach is just where i cannot stay under or behind the ball
One of the BEST coaches in the game! I have attended many PBA tournaments, both national and regional, and one of my very favorite victories of all was watching JR when a regional at Pinheads and his son was with him having the time of his life. It was a great day! Thank you JR for sharing this video as once again you are absolutely correct.
I use 15 lbs. dumbbells at home to practice, allowing my swing to fall freely. This has helped me greatly to not only tune into what that feels like but also to help me program my neuro pathways to execute that movement each and every time without having to think about it. Thank you for all of the content. Your channel is helping me to become a better bowler.
Great idea! I'm a relatively new bowler. I'm using a 15. I have naturally strong wrists and forearms so I think I'm trying to use my strength and not technique.
@jonathanjohnson3846 Yea, this is where it has massively helped me. I lift weights, and it naturally just made me want to muscle the ball. Doing this helped me to free up my swing and stop muscling the ball. It is a feel thing.
Awesome! Happy bowling 👍
Thanks JR for this great tip. Body language really makes a big difference. I started out with a 14lb ball as recommended by the shop but I thought the ball was too heavy for my hand which I thought was the reason why I couldn't get hand under ball so I ended-up getting a 2nd 12lb ball. Allowing the ball to fall during the swing allows the momentum of the ball and your hand to get back in position rather than to pull it down and then losing control. Reminds me of the pirate ship ride- once the boat levels out of it's pendulum swing, it's perfectly parallel back to the ground. Makes perfectly sense!
I will try this tonight along with focusing to keep my upper body upright without any lean as well as allowing swing path of ball to be in line with my head. I think this will also fix my tendencies of my arm to go cross-body on release which I think I may also be releasing the ball too late. Too many parts/pieces to put together but after 3 months of bowling it's all starting to make sense now. I do have the yo-yo release now but my rev-rate is so slow. Another problem to fix another time.
You remember how it went ? I’m about to try this
Omg this is perfect. I just looked at one of my videos and my tilting forward is exactly what I'm doing. Thank you so much for this quick video
You said “spine tilt” and my mind flashed to every time I’ve almost fallen onto the lane.
This is the exact video I needed 😭😭 thank you so much! I will work more on this today!
I'm only just trying out hooking the ball and can't get it to work one handed, but I'm absolutely pulling the ball down with my swing like you say, and hadn't even considered letting it drop and to get under/behind the ball like that.. such a simple tip that could really change everything
I knew I should’ve asked you for advice when I was bowling one set of lanes over from you on Saturday in Ionia. I’ve always struggled getting under the ball and I know this will change my game as soon as I can pick it up. Thank you!
Thanks. I was having this issue today and couldn’t figure it out. I’ll give your advice a try tomorrow 🎉
JR is the best. Just turned 80 with a 175 avg. in 2 leagues. Still have mechanical problems and may try the virtual lessons. Thanks!
This helped me tremendously I'm bowling my first season in league we are 15 weeks in and this pass Monday at league I bowled my new personal best I got a 600 scratch and I know there's plenty of room for improvement but it felt good knowing I'm on the right track and improving along the way. Thanks for these videos.
So stay low using your knees and not your back 🤯you sir are the best!!!!
Thanks for your input and advice. I’ll definitely look at what I’m doing, and remember what you said the next time I’m in league.
That’s why I love the foul line or one step drill… it’s hard to pull down or bend over on your shot.
Excellent advice , I’ve been struggling the past few weeks and felt myself coming up ( and my ball reaction has been atrocious ) . I think you solved my issue JR , thank you !
Thanks JR I'm a 2 hander and just recently decided that I wanted to try 1 handed bowling. Took an idol cosmos and plugged/drilled it with what my pso said was a standard fingertip layout. I can't get the ball to hook for the life of me.
Thanks again let fall and tilt hmmm nice can’t wait til practice
I’ve been looking for reasons that I can’t get under the ball for YEARS… this is the first time hearing this so I will definitely work this into my game 🤘🏼
yep I tried getting rid of my slouch and bend at the waist same issue
Thanks for this video thought these were all my issues but after buying the TNT Infused the other day, I've come to see that I need bigger inserts. A lot easier with my fingers further into the holes!
Fantastic explanation of hand position... thank you!!
Highlighted a number of my faults in the video- thanks for the affirmation.
A question- took a lesson a couple of years ago from USBC silver who had me uncock my hand at address (so fingers below the forearm line) but I don’t know what it was supposed to accomplish - maybe help stay behind it on the push away ?
Have tried unsuccessfully to touch base with him again.
Any idea what that move might do ?
I am bowling better this year.
Thanks !
Shut down for the Day
Dinner on the way!!
I'm use that!!❤😊
One of your best instructional videos ever JR !! :)
It's either your timing or your timing or possibly your timing. When your rhythm is correct everything else gets soooooo much easier.
Thanks JR, I’ve been watching you for sometime now. Love the tips and lessons and reviews. I’m all the way in Australia. Might send you one of my videos to get some pointers.
This made a massive difference for me. Thank you!
I’ve been searching for this exact advice for weeks. Then I stop searching for it and you show up on my feed. 😂 thanks lad. I’m gonna go out tonight and try that.
It was the last detail I feel hit home for me. Because I've notice, that as a lefty, the more I move right with my feet my body instinctually leans a little more forward which I feel allows me to get around it a little easier.
Yes!!! Thank you sir!!!
Totally makes sense! .. Thanks JR !! .. this is something probably not often thought about. Thank you and Happy Holidays !!!
Thankyou Mr. Raymond for the Great Bowling Tips. 👍👍
I have to practice this. I have difficulty getting my hand under the ball and getting a nice curve.
I am going to try this next time I practice. After watching this I now see why I was having issues last time I played. I kept bending my back over slightly during my release 🤦♂️
Thank you very much appreciated. Excellent teacher
Damn…. I think I have this exact problem. (Amongst many other ones also)( lean forward to far; elbow comes around the ball) thanks for the tips!!
This is great info I didnt realize that being more upright would do that. I got a pretty high swing that's very free but I know I have always had a fair amount of forward spine tilt. This is something I will try this weekend shout out from hartland
Full roller help!!!! Love
Excellent example! Thank you for posting this!
Great video thank you. This explains a lot for me
Thanks so much for this! Looking forward to working on it!
Straight and to the point!!! I like it!!
Thank you
Excellent advice. Thanks!
Going to use this advice tonight at league
did not realize letting the ball fall instead of forcing it made such a big difference. will keep in mind next time i bowl
Glad you made a video about this. Also that black widow 2.0 is gonna take a bit to get used to but I love it!
Good stuff JR. Thank you very much.
Thank you JR for another helpful video
JR--I wear a wrist support, which tends to force my hand around the ball. Do you have any suggestions that can help me stay behind the ball while still wearing the support?
Thank you
What do you think about the sublime bowling ball looking for one with strong back end
this is what i needed.. Thanks you!!!!
JR, i am recovering from back and surgeries and having to bowl with a 1 step approach. I try to stay behind and under the ball but could use some help to improve. Can you help me with this issue?
Great advise. Appreciate it!
What if you’ve had your labrum, rotator cuff, clavicle and bicep tendon surgery? I can turn my wrist to the inside but not more than maybe 1”. How can I still keep my hand inside?
I very much like your videos. I am going to have to try some of your tips and see if it helps. Then I may consider joining your group.
Awesome video!! Thank you!
What advice would you have for a palm bowler like me?
Been working on staying under the ball and good so far but when i add the movement to direct the revs the right way i release it so bad and very inconsistent. Sometimes i can get it right and then i have a beautiful strike but VERY inconsistent. Any tips?
Great video
What about spmeone loke wes mallott? To me it looks like hes coming around the side of rhe ball sometimes...
Thats totally my problem😔
How far are you from Lotus Lake? Have family in Waterford
Why does spine tilt make a difference? Your hand is on top of the ball when it's 45 degrees behind you, but that should be true even if you're upright. What matters is only at the bottom of the swing, right?
What you think about wrist support to help stay under the ball? Thank you!
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Nice tip,,,danke!
How can I contact you? Im new in bowling and im having the exact problem
Hey what mic are you using?
💡 light bulb !! Thank you
Damn I watch this video 5 times now I get why I stay on top of the ball it’s my tilt and not bending with the knee and lowering my waist
I can always feel this thanks to my friend/coach. Will always remember his words of wisdom whenever I leaned too far forward "Fuzzy, get your tits off the lane!" 😂
😂
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good stuff here, sadly the dungeons I bowl at hook at your toe and getting more under it is not the answer, still having this in your bag of tricks is a good idea when you hit some oil.
Me 20 years ago: "I want to be a better swing dancer."
My teachers when I was learning how to swing dance: "You need to bend your knees more, it looks better in the dance."
Me: "I racked my knees taking all kinds of ground balls playing baseball as a teen and they don't bend easily anymore."
Me now: "Bowling seems like a nice, low-impact sport I can do into old age. But I can't seem to master getting a lot of hook."
This video: "You need to bend your knees more to get more hook."
Me: "Dammit."
Cool video talk tech bowling bowling Jr Raymond
The key to changing is to record yourself on video.
I like rhis one to get under the ball this is easy and i know you all going to laugh but its ok in not ever going to chang this i use my pinky finger you do this you'll have a good grip of your ball and more controll of your throwing i done this 50 years like i said I'll never will change rhis
It’s never what you think. We always tend to think it’s strength.
Roll Tide!!!
Thanks for the tip JR! I drop the ball from the top of my swing. I have no issues with keeping my hand under the ball. My 2 cents for folks having this issue... use a lighter ball OR get to the gym and strengthen your arm from shoulder to wrist. Folks who think they can perform optimally w/o working out are mistaken. All the guys on tour are gym rats.
hmmm. AJ johnson and darren tang and byron smith might be doing it wrong for so long. Marshall H might be wrong too?. You can lean as much as you want but you can't rotate the shoulder to the line. Please send this link to Simonsen, verper and packy. they're all wrong... careful how you heed advice.
You’re joking right? Might consider paying better attention
77 and can't bend down much