So when I saw this thumbnail, my thought was... CLICKBAIT! Dude..... this simple thought process is possibly one of the most insightful teaching moments in bowling. After watching this video, I couldn't get it out of my mind.
Squaring my shoulders and hand to the inside have been my focus at the beginning of league this year. First week shot 30 as an average, over my average.
Someone on Reddit mentioned this video and if you follow what JR is showing the light bulb goes off for those of us that have been chasing how the release should actually feel. I did this in practice this morning before I found the video. Fantastic advice.
Everything JR said is 100 percent correct! I'm the "wrong handed" guy and my hand is forever changed. Since his redrilling and coaching my average has increased from 184 to 196. 1 month!! The coolest part was that JR really took time to listen and made sure I focused on being consistent. Truly a bucket list trip!!
Thank you JR! My #1 problem. Can’t wait to get back down there and log some training with you. If any of you have been thinking about going to see him..stop thinking about it and GO!
I haven't bowled since covid. So I got rid of all my bad habits by not bowling for so long . I used what you taught in your video. I am a stroker bowler and the ball was moving like crazy.... I've never had great ball movement like that. Thank you 👍👍
Oh man, this is just I have been working on, because of some of your prior videos on this subject. I gotta tell ya, my last couple of trip to the lanes have been HUGE improvements. I have been working on hand on inside of ball and elbow on the inside of my hand. I have also found that I can get more rev's and less axis rotation, still getting the hook I want (not as much over-hook as I used to) and getting much better drive through the pins. I did some testing one night and found that I get WAY more hook than I thought I would when I go more up the back of the ball and reduce my axis rotation but maintain high rev's. I get much more consistent and predictable hook and MUCH more drive through the pins. Excellent video JR !!!
This is EXACTLY what I needed. I learned how to bowl with a hook over the winter, but not properly. Now I know what I was doing wrong. Can't wait to try this out 👍
Perfect video, this is exactly what I've been trying to work on for the last few months. One thing that helped me is to keep the V created by your index and middle fingers facing the pins. I think Darren Tang said this. I'm going to try and incorporate this as well
What just helped me recently, I have been struggling to get off the top of the ball. He said to come up with the ring finger up to the sky. 🙂 and then a guy said to reach out so i put that together and what a difference, i have tilt but no rotation. I was an end-over-end forward roller but finally got rotation. I will try this one too. Thanks Jr
I've been coached to get my left arm in front of my body until the release. But my body just wouldn't do it... until I tried your tip - have your fingers brush your pant leg when the ball drops. The first practice was probably hilarious to anyone watching. However, two days later at league (sport shot), I was around 20 pins over average. You are correct...it can change your life/game. Can't wait for regular league next week. Thank you very much!
I focused on this solely during my bowling league last week, and my score vastly improved. Whenever I make a minor adjustment to my play, especially during league, I focus on one change such as this. This has single-handedly helped me out a ton without thinking about it too much and bowling a 640 series. Thanks, JR Raymond.
Much appreciated. I'm finding along with this is great information that if I keep my thumb at one o-clock on the approach that there is a good improvement. Just need to do more practice. Thanks.
Great video. I've been struggling with an inconsistent release and your descriptions about visualizing knuckles to the ground and fingers brushing the inside of the leg are like a light bulb going off. Looking forward to trying this out on the lanes.
Bro its like you read my mind cuz im having this exact problem. First time joining league and last week barely scratched the surface of 140. Will try this out
I watched this video, pondered it a bit kept my elbow as you suggested and promptly tossed a 723. More consistency than I think I have ever had on release and ball motion. Small sample size but it sure seemed to make a difference in ball performance.
I'm gonna try that finger brushing the pant leg mindset next time I bowl. I have a problem with getting around the ball too much 2 handed and my track rolls over the finger holes.
I just thought about that I could be standing too upright and need to start with some slight forward lean. I’m trying to get back to my pre hamstring tear setup/approach and I can’t seem to find it after a month of trying
Great idea and I use a kettle bell at home upstairs to practice this. To lazy to bring a ball upstairs at my age lol. Just and fyi, I know the chances are slim to none, but please move that couch out from under those bowling balls. I helped out in a pro shop for years and have seen balls fall off the wall or the plastic break from an unseen crack. Hell I even saw a ball fall as someone hit the back side of the wall with a large object they were moving. I don't want to hear about someone being hurt and certainly not the kids.
I'm so close to my ankle I hit my ankle with the ball a few times! Most recently 2 weeks ago after a long break and my timing was off.... I'm going to find an ankle guard!
I’m going to be 68 in June and just started bowling again this season after a gap of about 35 years due to back injury and two surgeries. What’s your advice on how often to bowl each week for someone my age? I’ve joined three leagues, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday nights and my average, which started at about 155, is now 187 on Friday night and 165 or so for the other two nights. I’ve purchased two new balls, a Storm Hyroad pearl and a 900 Harsh Reality (moved down to a 14lb weight for the 2nd ball). I only bowled a couple years in my 30’s, so I’m not very experienced and I’m still learning, but I use a finger tip grip and try to rotate the ball with my throw, but I have low rotations so far. I’m also going to try to get some lessons and might consider online instruction if local lessons aren’t satisfactory. Lately I’ve been watching tons of videos and practicing or bowling league 5 times a week and I want to know if this is too much?
Thanks Jr I'm left handed. No you folks who bowl right handed are using the wrong arm. Leftys score more. just kidding jr. But b4 I buy a ball I watch your videos. You do a great job making those videos. My favorite lady bowler is coming to Columbus Ohio Aug 3 and 4th. At sequoia pro bowl. I think daria is a great bowler and teacher. Take care jr
I want to improve my bowling and staying inside the ball JR. I’ve been bowling for about three years and want to start taking it pretty serious, i would love to come see you to have my new balls drilled and get some lessons on staying inside the ball. Please reply!
It’s the funniest thing when someone wacks there ankle with the ball during the swing. I did it before it hits that ball bone on your ankle and it’s hurts. I remember my buddy was trying to strike so hard and he wacked his ankle, best laugh I ever I had in my Life.
So is there a drill I can do either at the lanes or at home to get rid of the "suitcase" release I was taught 3 decades ago? I started out as a backup ball roller, then a "coach" had me roll the ball with a suitcase release to get the ball motion to hook. Now, because I had done that so much early in life, it became a muscle memory thing. One that I cannot get rid of.
JR...... Love the video. Noticed you have a Motiv Pride (original one) on the display shelf. Any chance it is a 14 lb. ball. If so, I would like to talk about purchasing it. Please let me know. Thanks
OK, so tried this last night. It took a lot of getting used to, but I somehow got it to the pocket almost every shot. Did I have more revs? I think so. Was I behind the ball? Hard to say without video. I’ve gotten more revs before trying to stay behind it, but my hand was always on the side of the ball when seeing the video. Anyway, I shot 289 in game 1. Game 2, 2 consecutive pocket 7-10’s for 204. Then shot 246 in game 3 for a 739. I will have to take video to see if I truly changed my release much. That said, I’m 64 years old, and today I have some elbow soreness. I’ve never had that happen in my life. So, I may not be able to bowl like this anyway.
I’ve been paying attention to this more and more as I continue to bowl and I even tried tucking my elbow behind my hip, but when I looked back at the video I took, I was twirling the ball, and for some reason even though my elbow is in, my hand is not on the inside. Can someone give me an explanation?
I'm a 60 year old senior bowler with a 195 average and I'm happy with my game. If I was getting into many tournaments or had goals to join the Senior Tour, then maybe I would take time off to redo my release and make sure my hand is in the inside of the ball. My release is what you might see in the 1970's or 80's pro release. My game is based on accuracy rather than power. My release at the release point is 5 to 11 o'clock. There are many ways to release a bowling ball. The history of the PBA is a great example of different releases.
A 195 average today is like a 175 average in the ‘70’s. Why on earth would you be happy with that? I used to be a 230’s average bowler. Now, at 64, I’m 220. I don’t feel any different other than being 30 pounds lighter due to heart disease. It frosts me that I can’t bowl 230 anymore, but I throw the ball like you. I have tried to stay behind the ball to create more revs. It’s damn near impossible. Doubt I can execute what he talks about in the video, but I’m gonna try.
@@jameskinchen2148 Why am I happy with a 195 average? Because I was never a 230 average bowler. Because of my job, I wasn't able to practice and give the attention to my game like I had wanted. Now that I'm retired, I'm starting to get a little practice in. But that doesn't mean I want to take a lot of time to revamp my release. Do I want to improve? Sure I do. Now, you can look at me as a 175 average bowler and that's ok. I know my game and know that I can't be someone that I'm not. I'll never reach a 230 average. I go out there and try to do the best I can each time I bowl. You're a 230 average bowler and that great for you. It's funny though, not all 220+ bowlers are the same. The 220+ average bowlers in the league that I bowl are one of the nicest and coolest people I know. They would never look down on anyone.
What if you’ve had your labrum, rotator cuff, clavicle and bicep tendon surgery? I can turn my wrist to the inside but not more than maybe 1”. How can I still keep my hand inside?
I can only stay in the inside on the no step drill...when I put the approach, its almost impossible to stay in and under the ball. It is so frustrating...I will keep trying but I am feeling so sad right now
@@Tenpindoctors Thanks JR. Now that I think about it, there is some truth to it. I know this because when I force myself to keep my chest "open" I usually roll my ball better. So I should focus on my non bowling hand to keep the non bowling elbow in the right position? ty!!
@@Tenpindoctorsthis is exactly what happens to me!! How do I fix it? I'm perfect on foul line drills and even one step but I lose it in my full approach!
Not at all, he said think about brushing your fingers. Any good coach already knows to get you to tuck your Armswing closer and under your head it’s common knowledge. With that being said if you haven’t touched your shoe with your bowling ball every now and again you ain’t there 😅
If the arm should touch the leg, you will not get a straight pendulum movement. Having difficulty putting it together with moving the arm in a straight movement.
Thanks for the tip! I've been wanting to develop that Mitch Hupe-like release and this tip helped. Tried it out tonight at the lanes... now if I can just fix my janky unloading LMAO. ruclips.net/user/shortsJPCO8qV7KqY
My house Pro says i throw a very heavy ball for a 177 avg. 59 yr old guy. I have a wonderful swing but miss the pins in the back row JR... My Hammer 2.0 hybrid is a blessing. My No Rules Pearl is also still a great bowling ball. I would like to learn how to stand left and use the oil to help me play more inside, any suggestions JR? Thank you 🎉
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So when I saw this thumbnail, my thought was... CLICKBAIT! Dude..... this simple thought process is possibly one of the most insightful teaching moments in bowling. After watching this video, I couldn't get it out of my mind.
We don't play in the Mitt.
Squaring my shoulders and hand to the inside have been my focus at the beginning of league this year. First week shot 30 as an average, over my average.
Someone on Reddit mentioned this video and if you follow what JR is showing the light bulb goes off for those of us that have been chasing how the release should actually feel. I did this in practice this morning before I found the video. Fantastic advice.
Everything JR said is 100 percent correct! I'm the "wrong handed" guy and my hand is forever changed. Since his redrilling and coaching my average has increased from 184 to 196. 1 month!! The coolest part was that JR really took time to listen and made sure I focused on being consistent. Truly a bucket list trip!!
Thank you JR! My #1 problem. Can’t wait to get back down there and log some training with you. If any of you have been thinking about going to see him..stop thinking about it and GO!
@@crazycajunj1703same here lol
Awesome I’ve been bowling for 30+ years and that’s actually kind of eye opening.
I haven't bowled since covid. So I got rid of all my bad habits by not bowling for so long . I used what you taught in your video. I am a stroker bowler and the ball was moving like crazy.... I've never had great ball movement like that. Thank you 👍👍
I totally agree. It improved my game from 174 to 202 average.
Boom!
Oh man, this is just I have been working on, because of some of your prior videos on this subject. I gotta tell ya, my last couple of trip to the lanes have been HUGE improvements. I have been working on hand on inside of ball and elbow on the inside of my hand. I have also found that I can get more rev's and less axis rotation, still getting the hook I want (not as much over-hook as I used to) and getting much better drive through the pins. I did some testing one night and found that I get WAY more hook than I thought I would when I go more up the back of the ball and reduce my axis rotation but maintain high rev's. I get much more consistent and predictable hook and MUCH more drive through the pins. Excellent video JR !!!
This is EXACTLY what I needed. I learned how to bowl with a hook over the winter, but not properly. Now I know what I was doing wrong. Can't wait to try this out 👍
Perfect video, this is exactly what I've been trying to work on for the last few months. One thing that helped me is to keep the V created by your index and middle fingers facing the pins. I think Darren Tang said this. I'm going to try and incorporate this as well
Norm Duke as well I believe
I tried this and it changed my life. Shortly after I hit the lottery, married a supermodel and moved to Jackson Hole.
What just helped me recently, I have been struggling to get off the top of the ball. He said to come up with the ring finger up to the sky. 🙂 and then a guy said to reach out so i put that together and what a difference, i have tilt but no rotation. I was an end-over-end forward roller but finally got rotation. I will try this one too. Thanks Jr
Everything you spoke on JR, is actually what I taught in golf for decades. Feel player; visualization; muscle memory and commit to the shot.
I've been coached to get my left arm in front of my body until the release. But my body just wouldn't do it... until I tried your tip - have your fingers brush your pant leg when the ball drops. The first practice was probably hilarious to anyone watching. However, two days later at league (sport shot), I was around 20 pins over average. You are correct...it can change your life/game. Can't wait for regular league next week. Thank you very much!
I focused on this solely during my bowling league last week, and my score vastly improved. Whenever I make a minor adjustment to my play, especially during league, I focus on one change such as this. This has single-handedly helped me out a ton without thinking about it too much and bowling a 640 series. Thanks, JR Raymond.
Much appreciated. I'm finding along with this is great information that if I keep my thumb at one o-clock on the approach that there is a good improvement. Just need to do more practice. Thanks.
Great video. I've been struggling with an inconsistent release and your descriptions about visualizing knuckles to the ground and fingers brushing the inside of the leg are like a light bulb going off. Looking forward to trying this out on the lanes.
Let’s go!
I will be trying this Tuesday night. Bowling for fun after are steak dinner banquet. Good time to practice before winter league starts.
Don't have that problem like I used to, but that's a great way to help keep the hand on the inside. Thanks, man! 👍
This is going to be my main goal during the winter league season this year.
Bro its like you read my mind cuz im having this exact problem. First time joining league and last week barely scratched the surface of 140. Will try this out
I watched this video, pondered it a bit kept my elbow as you suggested and promptly tossed a 723. More consistency than I think I have ever had on release and ball motion. Small sample size but it sure seemed to make a difference in ball performance.
i have been practicing this and it works,thank you.
I'm gonna try that finger brushing the pant leg mindset next time I bowl. I have a problem with getting around the ball too much 2 handed and my track rolls over the finger holes.
My now new bucket list, coming to see JR.. thanks again sir! ✅
Like the front view. I can see your hand moment very clear. Thank you
Thank you. I struggle with this very thing. I think for me is because I tend to muscle the ball
I just thought about that I could be standing too upright and need to start with some slight forward lean. I’m trying to get back to my pre hamstring tear setup/approach and I can’t seem to find it after a month of trying
Yes will try that. Sound like a very helpful drill, been frustrated not being able to stay behind ball at release
Great video as always! Except what you meant too say about your friend was that he was “best handed” hahaha keep up the great work
JR is taking us back to the 90s jnco jeans Era 😄
Great idea and I use a kettle bell at home upstairs to practice this. To lazy to bring a ball upstairs at my age lol. Just and fyi, I know the chances are slim to none, but please move that couch out from under those bowling balls. I helped out in a pro shop for years and have seen balls fall off the wall or the plastic break from an unseen crack. Hell I even saw a ball fall as someone hit the back side of the wall with a large object they were moving. I don't want to hear about someone being hurt and certainly not the kids.
I'm so close to my ankle I hit my ankle with the ball a few times! Most recently 2 weeks ago after a long break and my timing was off....
I'm going to find an ankle guard!
I’m going to be 68 in June and just started bowling again this season after a gap of about 35 years due to back injury and two surgeries. What’s your advice on how often to bowl each week for someone my age? I’ve joined three leagues, Tuesday, Thursday and Friday nights and my average, which started at about 155, is now 187 on Friday night and 165 or so for the other two nights. I’ve purchased two new balls, a Storm Hyroad pearl and a 900 Harsh Reality (moved down to a 14lb weight for the 2nd ball). I only bowled a couple years in my 30’s, so I’m not very experienced and I’m still learning, but I use a finger tip grip and try to rotate the ball with my throw, but I have low rotations so far. I’m also going to try to get some lessons and might consider online instruction if local lessons aren’t satisfactory. Lately I’ve been watching tons of videos and practicing or bowling league 5 times a week and I want to know if this is too much?
Thanks Jr I'm left handed. No you folks who bowl right handed are using the wrong arm. Leftys score more. just kidding jr. But b4 I buy a ball I watch your videos. You do a great job making those videos. My favorite lady bowler is coming to Columbus Ohio Aug 3 and 4th. At sequoia pro bowl. I think daria is a great bowler and teacher. Take care jr
I want to improve my bowling and staying inside the ball JR. I’ve been bowling for about three years and want to start taking it pretty serious, i would love to come see you to have my new balls drilled and get some lessons on staying inside the ball. Please reply!
another awesome video by JR. cheers buddy.
Im wrong handed and would be very interested in seeing how you wouid drill the ball for a new fit.
I've always had trouble staying behind the ball. I'm going to try this. Will this work if you're playing down and in?
It’s the funniest thing when someone wacks there ankle with the ball during the swing. I did it before it hits that ball bone on your ankle and it’s hurts.
I remember my buddy was trying to strike so hard and he wacked his ankle, best laugh I ever I had in my Life.
Have done this too many times to count...sucks
Very cool JR - Will work on this
So is there a drill I can do either at the lanes or at home to get rid of the "suitcase" release I was taught 3 decades ago? I started out as a backup ball roller, then a "coach" had me roll the ball with a suitcase release to get the ball motion to hook. Now, because I had done that so much early in life, it became a muscle memory thing. One that I cannot get rid of.
JR...... Love the video. Noticed you have a Motiv Pride (original one) on the display shelf. Any chance it is a 14 lb. ball. If so, I would like to talk about purchasing it. Please let me know.
Thanks
I got accused of sandbagging last league night after implementing this technique, it was pretty funny lol
waiting for review of motiv raptor fury
Thanks
OK, so tried this last night. It took a lot of getting used to, but I somehow got it to the pocket almost every shot. Did I have more revs? I think so. Was I behind the ball? Hard to say without video. I’ve gotten more revs before trying to stay behind it, but my hand was always on the side of the ball when seeing the video. Anyway, I shot 289 in game 1. Game 2, 2 consecutive pocket 7-10’s for 204. Then shot 246 in game 3 for a 739. I will have to take video to see if I truly changed my release much. That said, I’m 64 years old, and today I have some elbow soreness. I’ve never had that happen in my life. So, I may not be able to bowl like this anyway.
Watch it with the lefty stuff !!!!!
Thx for inform ❤
I’ve been paying attention to this more and more as I continue to bowl and I even tried tucking my elbow behind my hip, but when I looked back at the video I took, I was twirling the ball, and for some reason even though my elbow is in, my hand is not on the inside. Can someone give me an explanation?
I'm a 60 year old senior bowler with a 195 average and I'm happy with my game. If I was getting into many tournaments or had goals to join the Senior Tour, then maybe I would take time off to redo my release and make sure my hand is in the inside of the ball. My release is what you might see in the 1970's or 80's pro release. My game is based on accuracy rather than power. My release at the release point is 5 to 11 o'clock. There are many ways to release a bowling ball. The history of the PBA is a great example of different releases.
A 195 average today is like a 175 average in the ‘70’s. Why on earth would you be happy with that? I used to be a 230’s average bowler. Now, at 64, I’m 220. I don’t feel any different other than being 30 pounds lighter due to heart disease. It frosts me that I can’t bowl 230 anymore, but I throw the ball like you. I have tried to stay behind the ball to create more revs. It’s damn near impossible. Doubt I can execute what he talks about in the video, but I’m gonna try.
@@jameskinchen2148 Why am I happy with a 195 average? Because I was never a 230 average bowler. Because of my job, I wasn't able to practice and give the attention to my game like I had wanted. Now that I'm retired, I'm starting to get a little practice in. But that doesn't mean I want to take a lot of time to revamp my release. Do I want to improve? Sure I do. Now, you can look at me as a 175 average bowler and that's ok. I know my game and know that I can't be someone that I'm not. I'll never reach a 230 average. I go out there and try to do the best I can each time I bowl. You're a 230 average bowler and that great for you. It's funny though, not all 220+ bowlers are the same. The 220+ average bowlers in the league that I bowl are one of the nicest and coolest people I know. They would never look down on anyone.
What if you’ve had your labrum, rotator cuff, clavicle and bicep tendon surgery? I can turn my wrist to the inside but not more than maybe 1”. How can I still keep my hand inside?
I can only stay in the inside on the no step drill...when I put the approach, its almost impossible to stay in and under the ball. It is so frustrating...I will keep trying but I am feeling so sad right now
More than likely you are pulling your non bowling shoulder back and shutting down your bowling shoulder too quickly
@@Tenpindoctors Thanks JR. Now that I think about it, there is some truth to it. I know this because when I force myself to keep my chest "open" I usually roll my ball better. So I should focus on my non bowling hand to keep the non bowling elbow in the right position? ty!!
@@Tenpindoctorsthis is exactly what happens to me!! How do I fix it? I'm perfect on foul line drills and even one step but I lose it in my full approach!
Can you do that wearing a brace..?..
I have said in every video he has made his nickname is aka SWEET RELEASE ! . So smooth
Ty 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ more blessing sir
Love the video
Great video. I’m fighting over 50 years of bad bowling, but learning so much. Thank you!
I love the kid in the video… where’s Waldo?!🤗
Hey bro, where is your location about your proshop????let me know please
Waterford lanes, Waterford michigan
This will change someone’s life because, someone is now going to take their ankle off with the ball
Not at all, he said think about brushing your fingers. Any good coach already knows to get you to tuck your Armswing closer and under your head it’s common knowledge. With that being said if you haven’t touched your shoe with your bowling ball every now and again you ain’t there 😅
I have done this several times and it hurt so badly!!!
I’ve hit my ankle plenty. Still won’t do it incorrectly to protect my ankle
When I was younger I hit my ankle about every 100 shots.
It happens, I've smacked the inside of my ankle more than my fair share of times
If the arm should touch the leg, you will not get a straight pendulum movement. Having difficulty putting it together with moving the arm in a straight movement.
The arm doesn’t have to move completely straight. But in line with the intended target line
Try try again brush and knuckles thanks
Question: why do I need a release close next to my ankles? I lay the ball down about 2' in front of me. Is this not OK?
Will help you stay behind the ball longer & result in a better roll.
What do you aim for on your release, arrows, dots or boards and do you split your vision from spot of aim to break points?
what a handist 😂🤣
See it be it do it that's how I bowl
That way I bowl now. I can't turn my hand clock wise. If I do I end up chicken wing it.
There is no wrong hand being Left Handed
I'm good at many things. However, I have to be true to myself and understand I'll never be good at this sport.
Cool video talk tech bowling bowling ball Jr Raymond
Im about to bring back bell bottoms on men
Hey....wrong handed. Some of us are special i can bowl with either hand 🤷♀️
Thanks for the tip! I've been wanting to develop that Mitch Hupe-like release and this tip helped. Tried it out tonight at the lanes... now if I can just fix my janky unloading LMAO. ruclips.net/user/shortsJPCO8qV7KqY
1000% brushing fingers on leg
My house Pro says i throw a very heavy ball for a 177 avg. 59 yr old guy. I have a wonderful swing but miss the pins in the back row JR... My Hammer 2.0 hybrid is a blessing. My No Rules Pearl is also still a great bowling ball. I would like to learn how to stand left and use the oil to help me play more inside, any suggestions JR? Thank you 🎉