I remember many years ago you did a video on the "rule of 7," and I took it to heart. I still use it today (my own laydown board is closer to 9 instead of 7). This video was a great follow-up to that. Thanks!
Your best video ever! Incredibly helpful. Can you do a video for fresh lane conditions? Am I better off with a weaker, mid range, high end ball if I playing right. Then what signs I should look for when I wanna make a change. Either move left, ball down, ball up, etc For example Starting with my feet on 20. Should I using a big strong asym solid? Some benchmark-ish? Or a strong pearl? Etc Right now I am always trying to figure out my best look on fresh conditions. If it reads too early…should I move left, ball down, or both. If it doesn’t hook enough, should I ball up or move right… or both?
This information would have been very helpful this past weekend! Lol! I will definitely be using this demonstration in the future, though. Thank you, JR!
Dear J.R. I really love your vlog and all you explaining is helpful. Bill Sempsrott in BowlingThisMonth was publishing a great article about this topic too. I would like to mention that this rules you been talking about have some quit major variances depending on ballspeed, ballsurface (grid/material) and lane pattern. Your comment is very appreciated.
I can always hit my target, my challenge is finding the right ball for the right shape to the pocket. JR, you and Cody did pretty well this past tour season. 😊 👍
This is awesome! Maybe do a video on different break points and their uses for different patterns. This video would be a really good segue/reference for that.
3- point targeting will help anyone's accuracy. Target your laydown point somewhere in front of the foul line wherever you're comfortable aiming (dots are fine if that's what you like), another at the arrows, and finally your breakpoint down lane. Visualize a straight line through all three points and keep your swing parallel to that target line, and you'll find yourself missing much less often. Without a projected path, if you fixate on just one spot on the lane it's very easy for your swing to be all over the place... and it won't matter if you hit the dot you're aiming for in the front if you're swing is projecting the ball to some unknown destination down lane.
Quick question: The breakpoint on really short patterns is obviously closer to 1-2. But using this alignment, the breakpoint seems to always be around 38-40 feet, regardless of angle. So how would you move the breakpoint closer to you or further from you using this method? I'd assume you'd just move your eyes right a bit standing on the same board, and vice versa?
Figuring out where to stand to open or close your angles is how you move your breakpoint left or right down lane, not front to back. Getting the ball to read earlier (moving the breakpoint closer to you) or later (farther down lane) is a release/ axis rotation/ ball speed adjustment... it has little to nothing to do with your angle or where your feet are. You can play 15 to 8 coming straight up the back of the ball, or 15 to 8 with 75° of axis rotation... if you did your job right they'll both turn left at 8 down lane, but the first shot will do so a lot sooner than the one with a ton of axis rotation.
@Tenpindoctors Garrett Wong is with kegal training center he does lessons also. Would you please send me some information on tenpindocrors virtual lessons.
The question I have is this. All of the main people that do these Videos, all talk about the "Rule of 31". Which means, depending on the Oil Pattern, it will be the number of Boards at the "Break Point" in which your Ball starts to "ROLL" out of the "SKID" and start to "HOOK" towards the Strike Zone, the 1&3 Pins. So I heard a few times the number "7". Also I heard "7 Boards" to the right for how far away your Arm will swing from your slide foot. So If your Lane is at the "7 Board" Brake point, then your Oil Pattern is at "45 ft". 45'-31'= "7th Board". And you mention that if you stand at Board "23", and slide around "24", and looking at the "14" Board at at the 3rd Arrow, then to hit "7" down Lane. So are you using the "Rule of 31"? If so, it's just a matter of where people stand and throw to to hit there Strike Zone. So in the adjustments you mention that if you move "1" Board to the Left, then it's going to be "2" Boards to the Right of the Break Point down lane to around "5" Board.
(6:00) Isn't the 1-3 pocket on the 17 1/2 board? How can you go straight up 10 or 11 and hit the pocket? Are you showing the ball curved 6 or 7 boards to get your strike even though it traveled over the 11 board most of the way? It doesn't seem like the ball curved at all.
The ball did hook, but not much. The ball went up 12 and moved 4-5 boards left and hit light. The ball is wide enough that there is some miss room there. If he had hit 10 it would have hooked more, as it would have been on drier boards.
It's all relative. It will depend largely on your physical game... ball speed, rev rate, axis rotation, etc etc. If you're speed dominant with lower revs , you will find yourself playing straighter angles more often because a low rev rate makes it harder for the ball to turn the corner from deep inside. On the flip side, if you've got a ton of revs but don't throw it that hard you'll want to shape the lane more... straighter angles are harder for those players because a higher rev rate equals more back end reaction. The lane condition will also play a roll. Fresh heavy oil generally means straighter angles... if you're on the burn, you'll have to move in and open up your angles to find some oil.
OK, what does "stand on 15" really mean? Some trainers say that means the right side of the shoe is on 15 (for right handers) but looks like JR says the toe is on 15. What is the "stand on" definition?
6 of one, half dozen of the other. People often like to ascribe mystical/ intangible/ immeasurable qualities to elite bowlers. We can call it "art" or "feel", or anything else that sounds sufficiently magical to explain the results that these guys achieve, but the truth is those folks are doing the very same math as someone who approaches it more analytically. They might not know they're doing it, or be able to put into words exactly how it is that they know what adjustments to make from shot to shot... but in the end they're doing the exact same thing as the guy who's plugging numbers into a formula. Reams of SPECTO/ Strike track data, and countless hours of video analysis of both pros and skilled amateurs don't lie.
@@notonyourlife7939 SPECTO won’t save you when you’re in the thick of a tournament and don’t know why your ball isn’t doing the right thing or how to get it to do the right thing. Good luck out there.
Brilliant! Alignment is probably the # 1 reason bowlers miss their target. Excellent tutorial!
Those white arrow graphics are extremely helpful for us beginners who are actually not that savvy with bowling lingo.
Thanks.
Ten Pin Toolkit. App. Und you can understand IT all. Sorry for my Englisch.
Excellent job. To me, this is the single most important aspect of bowling.
Thanks! I will try this tonight
I remember many years ago you did a video on the "rule of 7," and I took it to heart. I still use it today (my own laydown board is closer to 9 instead of 7). This video was a great follow-up to that. Thanks!
I've been looking for this kind of explanation video since forever. Thank you so much!!
Starting to bowl once again, 20 years later. I really enjoyed the video... Rule of 7's .. Great lesson, thanks
Thank you, I've been struggling with this lately and I think this will help a lot!
Your best video ever! Incredibly helpful.
Can you do a video for fresh lane conditions?
Am I better off with a weaker, mid range, high end ball if I playing right. Then what signs I should look for when I wanna make a change. Either move left, ball down, ball up, etc
For example
Starting with my feet on 20. Should I using a big strong asym solid? Some benchmark-ish? Or a strong pearl? Etc
Right now I am always trying to figure out my best look on fresh conditions. If it reads too early…should I move left, ball down, or both. If it doesn’t hook enough, should I ball up or move right… or both?
Extremely helpful video JR. Well done. I’ll be using this for reference in all my practices.
Very Informative…wish the clinic was an option. The commute from Charlotte, NC is a little too far.
This information would have been very helpful this past weekend! Lol! I will definitely be using this demonstration in the future, though. Thank you, JR!
JR - Thank you - This is what I'm missing
LOVE this video! Never had the additional boards to the right explained like this before.
Dear J.R. I really love your vlog and all you explaining is helpful. Bill Sempsrott in BowlingThisMonth was publishing a great article about this topic too. I would like to mention that this rules you been talking about have some quit major variances depending on ballspeed, ballsurface (grid/material) and lane pattern. Your comment is very appreciated.
I can always hit my target, my challenge is finding the right ball for the right shape to the pocket. JR, you and Cody did pretty well this past tour season. 😊 👍
This is awesome! Maybe do a video on different break points and their uses for different patterns. This video would be a really good segue/reference for that.
GREAT VID & INSTRUCTION! Will implement at leagues this week.
This is amazing. I struggle with moving and this is something I really needed!
Thank you for doing this videos, you really have make my game better
Great video. Definitely need to write this down. I have been wondering this.
Thank you for your help!!! I feel like you should have done this with a couple different oil pattern layout examples to give us a visiual
Explicit explanation that’s super helpful to this new bowler. Thanks!
This is probably the best video I've ever seen on this top. Thanks so much for your insight!!!
very good and simple math to work with. nice vid.
I would go to this clinic if May wasn't already a busy enough month for me. When will the next one at Waterford Lanes be?
Great info, wish I would have seen this before nationals, where shot seemed to be straight up 5.
Drizzle drizzle king!
Very handy to know, thanks Jr
This is a great video, sharing it with some peeps
Great video. Really appreciate the insight.
This is great info! Thanks.. I need to video myself.
Always coming in clutch with advice!
Thank you for that information
Thank you JR
What if u look at the dots? Great video
3- point targeting will help anyone's accuracy. Target your laydown point somewhere in front of the foul line wherever you're comfortable aiming (dots are fine if that's what you like), another at the arrows, and finally your breakpoint down lane. Visualize a straight line through all three points and keep your swing parallel to that target line, and you'll find yourself missing much less often. Without a projected path, if you fixate on just one spot on the lane it's very easy for your swing to be all over the place... and it won't matter if you hit the dot you're aiming for in the front if you're swing is projecting the ball to some unknown destination down lane.
You’re the man JR
Cool video talk tech bowling ball Jr Raymond
Great vid
Thanks for this video.
Love your tips
Good video….i needed this!
Very informative video good joob.
Question for ya sir, can a 2 hander use this same technique or is it a little different due to the angles and shoulders having to be more open?
What about bowlers who do not use their slide foot for alignment, but use their ball side foot?
Quick question: The breakpoint on really short patterns is obviously closer to 1-2. But using this alignment, the breakpoint seems to always be around 38-40 feet, regardless of angle. So how would you move the breakpoint closer to you or further from you using this method? I'd assume you'd just move your eyes right a bit standing on the same board, and vice versa?
Figuring out where to stand to open or close your angles is how you move your breakpoint left or right down lane, not front to back. Getting the ball to read earlier (moving the breakpoint closer to you) or later (farther down lane) is a release/ axis rotation/ ball speed adjustment... it has little to nothing to do with your angle or where your feet are. You can play 15 to 8 coming straight up the back of the ball, or 15 to 8 with 75° of axis rotation... if you did your job right they'll both turn left at 8 down lane, but the first shot will do so a lot sooner than the one with a ton of axis rotation.
Thanks for clarifying. That makes more sense
They have since reduced the number to 6 boards( Garrett Wong aim with quite eye). 😅😮 Six plus drift.😊
Who’s Garrett Wong?
@Tenpindoctors Garrett Wong is with kegal training center he does lessons also. Would you please send me some information on tenpindocrors virtual lessons.
@@redcat5697 tenpindoctors.com hit the virtual lessons tab
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The question I have is this. All of the main people that do these Videos, all talk about the "Rule of 31". Which means, depending on the Oil Pattern, it will be the number of Boards at the "Break Point" in which your Ball starts to "ROLL" out of the "SKID" and start to "HOOK" towards the Strike Zone, the 1&3 Pins. So I heard a few times the number "7". Also I heard "7 Boards" to the right for how far away your Arm will swing from your slide foot. So If your Lane is at the "7 Board" Brake point, then your Oil Pattern is at "45 ft". 45'-31'= "7th Board". And you mention that if you stand at Board "23", and slide around "24", and looking at the "14" Board at at the 3rd Arrow, then to hit "7" down Lane. So are you using the "Rule of 31"? If so, it's just a matter of where people stand and throw to to hit there Strike Zone. So in the adjustments you mention that if you move "1" Board to the Left, then it's going to be "2" Boards to the Right of the Break Point down lane to around "5" Board.
How do you make a 10 spare?
left toe on 35, align your body towards the 10 pin, aim your eyes at the middle arrow. This is assuming you are throwing a plastic ball.
(6:00) Isn't the 1-3 pocket on the 17 1/2 board? How can you go straight up 10 or 11 and hit the pocket? Are you showing the ball curved 6 or 7 boards to get your strike even though it traveled over the 11 board most of the way? It doesn't seem like the ball curved at all.
The ball did hook, but not much. The ball went up 12 and moved 4-5 boards left and hit light. The ball is wide enough that there is some miss room there. If he had hit 10 it would have hooked more, as it would have been on drier boards.
I have a hard time letting the ball drop, because I don’t want it to fall off my hand
My question is how do you determine the 14-7, 10-10, 17-7, 12-10 or is it a gamble to try out all the line up to see which one works best?
It's all relative. It will depend largely on your physical game... ball speed, rev rate, axis rotation, etc etc. If you're speed dominant with lower revs , you will find yourself playing straighter angles more often because a low rev rate makes it harder for the ball to turn the corner from deep inside. On the flip side, if you've got a ton of revs but don't throw it that hard you'll want to shape the lane more... straighter angles are harder for those players because a higher rev rate equals more back end reaction.
The lane condition will also play a roll. Fresh heavy oil generally means straighter angles... if you're on the burn, you'll have to move in and open up your angles to find some oil.
OK, what does "stand on 15" really mean? Some trainers say that means the right side of the shoe is on 15 (for right handers) but looks like JR says the toe is on 15. What is the "stand on" definition?
Generally speaking, it's the board the inside of your slide foot falls on.
However you do it. Doesn’t matter which way you do it
Break point? That’s a lot of math and not a lot of art.
6 of one, half dozen of the other. People often like to ascribe mystical/ intangible/ immeasurable qualities to elite bowlers. We can call it "art" or "feel", or anything else that sounds sufficiently magical to explain the results that these guys achieve, but the truth is those folks are doing the very same math as someone who approaches it more analytically. They might not know they're doing it, or be able to put into words exactly how it is that they know what adjustments to make from shot to shot... but in the end they're doing the exact same thing as the guy who's plugging numbers into a formula. Reams of SPECTO/ Strike track data, and countless hours of video analysis of both pros and skilled amateurs don't lie.
@@notonyourlife7939 SPECTO won’t save you when you’re in the thick of a tournament and don’t know why your ball isn’t doing the right thing or how to get it to do the right thing. Good luck out there.