DJi Osmo Action 5 Pro Review | Not Sponsored Not Gifted
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- After saying publicly that I wouldn't be purchasing the DJI Osmo Action 5 pro I did a complete 180 turn and ended up purchasing this action camera shortly after launch. The promise of better low light capabilities and enhanced dynamic range suggested it was worth changing my mind, but was it? In this video I look at what's great about the Action 5 pro and what isn't with real footage from nearly a week of testing it in various different lighting conditions. #dji #djiaction5 #actioncamera #camerareview #osmoaction #djiaction4
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I just bought the Action 5. My likes: The 40MP photo option. Make sure you go in and change the default of 9 MP. I used it last night here in Palma de mallorca. The low light without change the setting was a great surprise. I had it set to Rock Steady. NOT RS+. So while the low light was really good. I was a bit let down with what was either vibration from my magnetic chest mount or the digital image stabilization not quite doing its job. Tonight I will try it again with RS+ on. The low light is equal to that of the Pocket 3. I see in your video running you were having the exact same issue. I will add that i have an Action 4 and the 5 does much better in Low Light. Because of that. I never attempted a low light shoot while walking in Mallorca. I do hope they correct the problem. I won’t be returning my 5 because it is a sight better than the 4 and will be crossing my fingers for a fix.
Thanks for the feedback and great feedback on your used case James, appreciate it a lot. I hope you are enjoying Mallorca, my family and I go twice per year and we love it. Typically we are on the other side of the island near Alcudia but not always. I’m pleased you like the low light performance so far, I’m going to try a few different setting in my next dark run to see if I can find a sweet spot. Have a great evening sir 🫡👍
Are you gonna make vidéo on your Channel ?
Thanks for the honest review. I was excited about the Action 5 Pro but now I'm unsure. I'll definitely wait for the firmware update and see what happens.It's cool 4 hours of battery life is amazing... the lowlight footage is good too...I got a DJI Action 3 about four months ago... I got a good deal for 250 Singapore dollars (standard combo) 15,400 INR Pretty cool deal right..anyway..have a nice day sir
@@AjaySingh-228 you are very welcome my friend. Definitely worth waiting to see what the firmware does. Dji are usually very good at addressing issues so hopefully they can fix it and give everybody the pro features that they promised 🫡
@@Runningonthemind Yeah I agree Let’s see how things shape up with the Pro. Appreciate your advice, Sir! Have a great day!
@@AjaySingh-228 always, thank you for supporting the channel my friend, it's super appreciated.
@@Runningonthemind You're very welcome Sir!Keep going
The Point is... What you want do with it.
For Vlogging Go One.... for Running, Bikes fpv or Something buy the Hero13.
Funny that you talk about technical things here but constantly mix up Megabits and Megabytes when in comes to the Bitrate. That’s a difference by a factor of eight 😉 Also if you say that this is some of the worst low light footage you have ever seen out of an action cam did you ever use and compare it to a GoPro? Check out the low light footage of a GoPro 11/12/13 and do a side by side comparison with the OA5. OA5 in another league here and way ahead. And yes: I compared both.
Fair comment, I didn’t realise tbf but if that was the case then you are right and my bad. I had the GoPro in the past but have avoided it for years. Did you make a video of the comparison? If so I’d love check it out. I hear that the hero 13 is basically exactly the same as the 10 but with a better log profile than before?
@@Runningonthemind transfer and recording speeds are usually stated in Mbit/s (Megabits). File sizes in Megabytes (MB). I don’t have a side by side video on hand but there are many other reviews where you can see how terrible a GoPro looks in low light. To me everything above ISO 800 is unusable.
There is a firmware update on its way for the bit rate issues dji leak
Thank goodness for that. DJI are usually good at fixes, I had the same with the Mavic 3 at first, and they sorted that in the end. fingers crossed it comes soon.
They have officially confirmed that as well
@@RoguePainter I will take a look, thanks for confirming 👍
@@Runningonthemind I’ve also subscribed as well as I like your honesty. My action 5 pro is still in the box. Not even turned it on yet. I’m obsessed with tech and just can’t resist new stuff
@@RoguePainter thanks so much dude, appreciate that. RUclips is the second biggest search engine in the world for due diligence so it’s nice to give a bit of balanced feedback when there is so many selling out (not every sponsored reviewer, but most can’t resist a getting free gear before it’s released like it’s a badge of honour)
You need to set the minimum shutter to 1/100 to fix the jittery stabilization issue in low light. And also the maximum iso to 800. The image will be darker but much cleaner.
Thanks - I tried 1/100 in the second early morning run, but I showed a lot more footage of super night on that run and for that you can't amend the ISO. I think slightly darker d-log at higher shutter speed is currently more favorable thank super night. I'm going to do another test in the coming days of action 4 v 5 in d-log at 1/100 and fixed ISO to see how that comes out.
That’s so funny. I see a review above that said hallelujah. I was going to start my review with hallelujah. My friend, I don’t know you, but I know you now and you’re my new hero. I can’t tell you how therapeutic it was to hear you ..all the other channelsthe big channels all fluff not even mentioning the situation. I talked to DJI today they said yes it’s coming within two weeks, but they don’t know how much it’s gonna be. I had fights with major channels over this and you told the truth if they don’t have the update within 20 days I’m returning it. I have another 20 days before I have to return it. I feel like returning it right now because I’m free something will happen to it, thank you so much for your honesty. I own many drones and I own the mic2. I’m a fan of DJI and I was so hoping to get away from GoPro. I had one shoot with this camera and yes, the artifacts are really bad. Nobody will mention it. DJI must give out cameras like candy to these people everyone’s being dishonest, and it was this camera that made me realize, RUclips reviews cannot be trusted. Restore my faith and mankind thank you very much.
Ah thanks dude, your comment made me smile. I appreciate it and more than anything it’s because you appreciated the sincerity that I hoped would come across. It may not have seemed like it but I’m a huge fan of dji and that is actually why I was so disappointed in it. They either need to do better, or use more authentic and balanced review sponsors because what was advertised for some of this camera really isn’t what we get (I’ve no idea where some of the footage shot in the promotional videos come from but im sceptical it was out of the 5 pro based on what we are all seeing). Anyway dude, thanks so much for the support, it means a lot and you taking the time to share makes me doing this small RUclips channel worthwhile. Have a great weekend 🫡
Hi. Apologies if you have answered these questions elsewhere, or I have missed you providing answers to them in your video, but I have two questions:
1. Did you set both the in-camera sharpness and noise down to -2? My understanding is that this is best practice with practically all DJI cameras, as they can introduce artefacts like the ones you described. Sharpness and noise can always be added in post anyway.
2. Did you use auto exposure, or did you manually set the shutter speed in conjunction with using an ND filter? ND filters (where you have also set the shutter speed to a specific value) and digital stabilisation do not go well together at all, and this might explain the jittering that you experienced in some of your footage. Leaving the exposure to auto for action footage is usually the best way to go, and you can adjust the EV down if the highlights are being clipped.
I also have a Action 5 Pro, and in general I am very happy with it, but I am looking forward to DJI providing a firmware upgrade to resolve the bitrate issue. Funny enough, I have the exact same use case as yourself, as I will be using it to vlog my runs! :)
Thanks for the great in-depth review.
Hi, great video 👍. As you know I habe this camera and love it. This camera will only be better with updates. You got a new subscriber from Norway 🇳🇴.
Thank you, appreciate it my friend. Will be great to see how DJi makes us even bigger fans with the firmware and innovation with it. All the best and chat again soon 👍
@@Runningonthemind gonna be fun to see what they will give us👍
I believe this action camera is the only one with OLED Displays (correct me if I am wrong).
How is the display performance in bright, glaring sunlight ?
I think so, but I’m not sure yet what we will see on the insta ace pro 2. For me the screen is great, bright enough even in bright sunlight 👍
I just picked this up and agree so far with everything you’ve said. I’m going to try it again with different settings but if it’s not improved I’m returning it. I can get a full refund as I didn’t get it directly from DJI.
In my testing so far- the Osmo 4 is better ironically. This is definitely a step backwards… fingers crossed in my case but I doubt I will see a big improvement.
@@ChainBrothersMTB thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. At first I thought I was being a bit harsh but generally everybody seems to be having a similar experience. I love dji products and they have a track record of sorting issues so let’s see, but so far it feels like the released it a bit early before ironing out all the issues. Have a great weekend 👍
Thanks for the Video, I received my DJI Action 5 Pro Yesterday, and noticed that there was a firmware update, I haven't had a chance to test the camera yet, but I decided to skip the Action 4 since I own the Action 3, which in my opinion does a decent Job. I also have the Pocket 3 which does a phenomenal job on video, so hopefully, the Action 5 Pro should come close to what I need it for since I don't do low light shooting very much.
You’re welcome, thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. I think you’ll enjoy it and it will only get better I’m sure with updates. The dynamic range compared to the 3 is very good. The pocket 3 is amazing I agree, I would use it for everything if I could. Enjoy the 5 and I hope it does a great job for you 👍
To late!!! it arrived yesterday, I only bought the Action 4 in August, and I bought the Pocket 3 which I love around the same time. I haven't used the 5 yet but I intend to take it out on the bike this weekend and I'll take the 4 just for comparison.
Ha - honestly mate, if you are using it in daylight then you’ll enjoy it. I don’t think there is a huge difference between the 4 and 5 but the dynamic range is better. If you remember after you’ve compared then drop me a note to let me know what you think as I’d love to hear your opinion. Enjoy 👍
Thank you for this video, I was about to purchase the camera,I will wait for some improvement to the gittery issues.
You’re welcome. I hope we will see some fixes soon as it’s potentially a brilliant camera. Have a great weekend 👍
Wanting an action camera to have superb low light capability is crazy. Action cameras have always been newnt to be used in good light. Buying an action camera for low light filming doesnt make sense. That being said have you done any comparisons to the others cause action 5 does better than a gopro. Remember these action cameras arent made with low light performance as a top priority. Buying things expecting them to do what they arent designed for is the buyers mistake
I don’t disagree Josh, and appreciate your view. I said that I don’t expect the same low light performance as the pocket 3 or any larger sensor camera, that’s impossible. I just need the footage to be acceptable to use. The low light performance is something dji have promoted heavily for this camera with graphics in their website of cars and motorbikes zooming around in the dark. I should have said that my review was based very much on my specific usage case. The hype promoted a huge improvement in low light performance which is in some cases is correct, but pretty much only if the camera is kept completely still in my tests. That said, your point is correct and if this is as good as it gets then I will just have to use the pocket 3 for all my dark runs 👍
I think it's fine for well lit scenarios. I never intended to use this for night time video. I got the Pocket 3 for all around and night video.
I think that’s a fair statement. I love the pocket 3 it’s just not all that convenient to run with, but if it’s the only option for true low light high quality footage then I think I will make it work 👍
I love how every sponsored c4nt uses gimbals or very steady walk to hide horrible muddy stabilisation... They praise it blatantly lying ... Thanks to people like you it is all clear/
Thanks mate - I think it's clear the bias that some sponsored videos are showing.. I hope my type of review helps people who actually have to spend money on gear :-)
bought the action5 at launch day. got my first mountainbike video made, and yes that image stabilastion looks bad. also image quality is not what i like. this sunday i will make a new mountainbike video.level up the stabilasation and hope for the best...
Thanks for taking the time to comment. I think many people are feeling the same, I hope for our sake they do some magic in the background and release some firmware that will change our minds 🤞🏼
I spot a neo in the background you going to give a review on that as I’m fed up with the freebie crowd crap, edit sorry forgot to say I sent my 5 pro back for similar reasons very disappointing
Sure - Although I've actually only had it a few days so the short flights I did with my kids in the video towards the end is the only thing I've done so far with it. I will test it a few times and then do a consumer review for sure.
Good
thanks so much
9:00 super night mode is a mess... all i see is over sharpened footage
yep - totally agree
Thanks for your honesty
Ofcourse - appreciate you taking the time to comment 👍
Here in Korea, many RUclipsrs receive sponsorships to review, so no one boldly talks about the shortcomings. To know the truth, you should always search in English and read reviews from foreign people. Thank you for your honest review.
Through searches on Reddit, etc., I was able to find out that there was a problem in low light.
Could DJI fix this problem with software? I'm waiting.
Originally, I was planning to buy it right away, but I guess I'll have to wait for the release of Insta360 Ace Pro 2 before comparing.
I hear you.. I think asking people to review their products is ok but it’s a catch 22 as the people that get the sponsorship or products for free are worried to get blacklisted from future products if they say anything about shortcomings. Let’s see what dji do but I think they are a great company and will address the issues. Have a great day and thank you so much for taking the time to comment and share your experiences 👍
Thanks for the review, very interesting
You’re welcome, thanks for the comment 👍
Thanks for this, I'd looked at loads of videos on this camera and couldn't understand why nobody seemed to be being honest about the night mode quality, which as you say, looked completely unusable everytime! Glad I held off.
All of the early reviews were clearly sponsored or gifted. There are a few honest reviews out there now and I hope to be considered one of those. Hopefully dji will fix some of this stuff sooner than later. have a good day dude.
Oh, I realise that, but nonetheless, it surprised me that people would go as far as to say "and the night mode is great" over footage with constant hitches, blurring and stuttering. Something to think about when the next release day rolls around.
I own a DJI action 5 Pro and I do agree that it definitely needs a firmware update on that bitrate I think that especially in webcam mode, it is very over sharpened. I will never buy an insta360 camera. They were telling RUclipsrs to give them positive reviews in exchange for free stuff. And when they were caught they never even fired the rep that sent out that email. They should have fired the rep and made a public announcement to repair bad relationships with the consumer. So that tells me that that order came from the CEO himself.
Thanks mate for taking the time to comment. Yeah the insta 360 scandal was a total mess wasn’t it.. shame they did that but also good it was highlighted as I’m sure other companies do that too. Hoping and I’m sure we will see some positive updates coming from dji soon on fixes. Have a great weekend 👍
Well I am glad that I have my Action 4
The 4 is great. The 5 is better in some aspects already but not significantly..yet. Time will tell but right now the 4 looks the better for money.
Thank you! I was about to buy it. I should HOOOOOLLLDDD😅
You’re welcome. I think holding right now is the best thing to do for sure 👍
Keep us posted with the new firmware that should fix the mbps limitations.
Thanks, will do. Have a good weekend 👍
@@Runningonthemind you too buddy!
Well hallelujah, someone who isn't spouting the DJI hymn sheet. Everything you said there is spot on. I bought a second Action 4 but it's had to go back. I am thinking of getting the 5 to replace it. I'm confident that DJI will address this, but as you say, they need to do it quickly. Great video my friend.
@@tojj29 thanks so much, I appreciate the feedback as it’s important to me to put out videos that add value. I’m sure DJi will fix it and the 5 will end up a great camera for all occasions 👍
@@Runningonthemindwhen everything is fixed, action 5 pro will topnotch the action cam category. 👌🏻💯
Agreed, I hope so as I am a huge dji fan despite it possibly not looking that way in the review 😂👍
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Thanks man, much appreciated 🫶🏻
Not so good video footage.Insta 360 ace pro is far better than Dji osmo action 5 pro.
Well done. Nice and unbiased review. I just received mine action 5 but I am happy with it. Had gopros cameras until now and have enough of all the freezing and camera not starting. Mostly using camera in good lighting condition so low light is not a concern for me but I am sure that dji will fix it. Also the most important for me is a battery life and gopros are really bad. My insta 360 one x2 and x3 are great with battery and looks like I will be happy with this one too. Also 20m diving without a case is great in case you forget your case and want to do some adventure diving to like 15m witch I mostly do. Gopro with 10m it's not enough.
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Good honest review, buddy. I have bought the 5 pro and think firmware updates will change all these issues fingers crossed anyway I have the action 3 and found it to be a good camera for what I use it for but better usable low light and the jitters needs addressing 👍
Thanks mate, appreciate you taking the time to write a comment, it means a lot. I agree, it will come good. I will keep testing various settings for low light.. we have a long winter coming in the uk so lots of dark mornings to work with 😂. Have a great weekend fella and thanks again 👍
As an osmo 3 owner who's been ready to jump in to the 5 or 4 , this has been a great insight and really well presented . As I motovlog I will certainly hold off for noo. Greetings from Glasgow .
Thanks so much for taking the time, appreciate you commenting. The action 4 is great and currently in my opinion, better value. If dji sort some of the issues then the 5 will become the better option. All the best 🫡
I uploaded a video about this too. I 100% agree.
Thanks man, will take a look. Fingers crossed they sort this out 👍
All the you tube creators that get free cameras and drones are full of crap no way will the slag off a product because it means no more free suff,Dji have a habit of putting out stuff which needs firmware updates i know because i bought a Mavic 3 drone and waited near 3 months before they fixed and added the stuff that was needed. I am no hurry to buy a new action camera so i wait a while and see what happens .No way will i buy a Go pro been there done that never again .Any how thanks for sharing .
I couldn't agree more. Even those who say that they've not been sponsored or asked to say anything won't say anything too negative because they are worried about the next freebie from the same company. There are a few very good reviewers who are sponsored and to be they are fair, but not many. I agree on GoPro.. especially since the 10 they've basically not improved it significantly. The 13 now has a better log profile, but that's about it.
Did you crank your shutter speed with low light in the morning? Also, DJI did confirm they will be doing a bitrate update with the next firmware release.
I did on my second run as I didn’t think it was possible to change it in super night. I can see now that you can do in super night also, so I will try it tomorrow. I didn’t find the images blurry, more jittery and with a lot of muddiness but let’s see if it improves tomorrow 👍
What is your view on the software? Safe?
FINALLY a realhonest review, glad I found you. Subscribed now
Thanks so much for the feedback and subscribing, great to have you and hope to put out some more videos that give you value 👍
ice PR 😂 ❤
😂 just the truth according to my personal experience so far my friend 😂
Sir which is better vaporfly 3 vs Takumi sen 10 for 800 mt ground race??
I've not run in the TS 10, but have friends who have. They are both great for that distance. I'd go with the vaporfly, but the TS10 is better value and less expensive and will likely get you a similar result.
Thanks for the video, I wanted to buy the 5 Pro, but now..... No thanks!
Welcome. I’d definitely check out what the camera can do after the firmware 👍
I agree with your review, but I would separate the bitrate issue from the sensor, which I found to be a huge leap forward respect to the 4 in noise production. Should DJI hopefully address the bitrate thing the 5 would deserve the "Pro" moniker. For what is concerned to low light stabilization jittering, I really don't expect this to beat the Ace Pro that could be a nice choice if it weren't for the crappy Bluetooth mic connection and the single display tha you continually need to open/close if you frequently shot front/back which I do during my trekkings.
Tnanks and I hear you. The bitrate issue they can address and I'm sure they will fix reasonably quickly with a new shooting option. For the jittering, I'm sure even in the 4 it wasn't as bad as it currently is (I'm going to do a side by side test to see with the same settings soon). I suspect if I played around with the shutter speed more and dji try to add something via firmware (I'm sure Insta did with the ace pro?) I could find a happy medium, but the muddiness and horrible oversharpened look in night mode (for what I use it for) is very difficult to find many positives in at the moment. I think for now I'd record in d-log with a darker look.
@@Runningonthemind I'm not keen to wannabe low light modes that often are some kind of "Jack of all trades" and do not lift well each scene you throw at them. I prefer to stick to the flatter color profile possible with lowest sharpening possible and recover the clip by hand in post. This allows for a few trial and error while with in camera processing you're done. I know it may not a be popular opinion on people that like the footage to be "just ready", but that's it. For the sharpening, even in DLog it looks like the new "Texture" parameter acts differently from the "Sharpening" parameter in the Action 4. It seems that it works more ore less like a "clarify" filter, but reading the DJI forum a certain level of sharpening is always applied. This justify the higher definition that some reviewers state on the Action 5. It's just that you cannot lower the sharpening. For now, because it looks that something sharpening related should be added in future. I think that DJI releases the new camera with those issues on purpose, just for the reviewers to state wonders about definition, battery duration, file transfer speeds, and that they add the cool features with time. It happened in past with other DJI products.
I havent even finish watching your video, but i have to comment. This is one of the best review of any camera period. Very little filler and get to the meat and potatoes of the camera. Well done. I rarely like a video but you sir deserve tons of likes and views for this. Thanks
currently my gear is hero 8 for action camera and pocket 3 for low light. Looks like it will stay the same setup.
Thank you Brian, I’m very grateful for your comment and you taking the time to share your thoughts. It’s great to hear that some people get value from my very honest type of reviews. Have a great day 🫡
Thank Running on the mind for this UNBIASED review. I love it when you say this video is not sponsored & you bought the camera with your money. Some RUclips reviewers also say their videos are unsponsored but they get the cameras for free. Your footage in low light condition shot with the Action 5 convinces me that it's not worth it.
You are welcome, thank you for taking the time to drop a comment. I will continue to try different settings for low light and of if I find a sweet spot I will do a follow up video as I also want to be fair of dji here. The camera is good, the sound is excellent with the mic 2 but the image quality isn’t much better than the 4 and the low light for moving activity is difficult to do anything with. 👍
So should I hold on before buying the Action 5 Pro? Or should I buy the Action 4...? Now I'm totally confused,,,!
Personally I think you should wait a few weeks if you can. If you want the action 5 pro mainly for good light situations then I think it will be the better camera with updated. But the 4 is great value and definitely not far behind in quality and features. 👍
i upgraded from a go pro hero 5. i noticed a big difference in everything! this thing is a beast. took it out surfing for 2 hours. 60fps. at 4k . still had 1.5 hours left on the battery, shits insane. oh and the touch screen works flawlessly in water!
Thanks for sharing your view mate, the info about the touch screen under water is fantastic as that’s something I’d never have tested and great info for people watching the video and reading the comments. Have a great day 👍
Great review about the Action 5 ! I ordered mine already a few days ago, so I could also do a review about it.
Like you, I often spend my own money on those kind of products, and then provide 100% honest reviews for my audience. However, even when I get sent something for free to review (which started to happen recently), I always send my "rules" to the manufacturer, which states that I will always do an honest review on all products, even sponsored, and also that I will never send the video to them before publishing it. If they agree, then we move forward to the video review. 😎
Thanks so much, I will take a look when you’ve had a chance to check it out and hopefully sooner than later DJi will send out a firmware. There is a lot of noise right now so I’m sure they will address the issues. Great to hear that you focus on honest reviews too, there are far too many people that are so worried about the consequences of truth (meaning they are worried about saying anything bad incase they don’t get sent the next new thing). I always look for people who’ve had to put skin in the game by purchasing something when I do my research on YT. 🫡
It's absolutely amazing how inconsistent the reviews are on the 5! My 4 got water damaged but still works somewhat; I'm slowly changing my mind getting another 4. Great review!😊
Thanks David, it’s a minefield out there.. the 4 is great but advise just to wait until the first firmware as the 5 does have the potential to be fantastic.. it just isn’t yet!
Nothing can be done about low-light stabilization. These streaks are created because the camera in low light exposes each frame longer and motion blur is created. Digital stabilization works in such a way that we see a slice of the entire frame recorded by the camera and this slice moves around the frame so that the content of this slice is as stable as possible. Unfortunately, if we have motion blur on the frame and the stabilization has to stabilize the frame in the opposite direction from the direction of the blur then such jitter is created. The only way to deal with this is to use a type of stabilization other than digital ((totally impractical in sports cameras). As for the image itself, I recommend using d-log, set the sharpness and de-noising to -2. The image will have visible noise, but it won't look like blurry mush.
Appreciate the feedback Sebastian and the advice. I think you are right about D-log. I’ve been using the sharpness and de-noise at -1 so far as that seemed great on the action 4, but maybe more needed in the 5 due to the increased megapixel count. I hear you on the stabilisation, I never expect the same level of stability that we get in the pocket 3, but I do think there is more dji could do but within the factual constraints that you quite rightly mention in what’s possible from digital stabilisation. Thanks for taking the time to comment and the detailed explanation which helps not only me but others reading it too 👍
thanks for saving me the money, I will wait for the soon to be released Ace Pro 2
You are welcome Jake. I think once the ace pro 2 comes out and Dji have released some
Firmware it will be a great battle between the two. 👍
Why do we all say d G I 😅 I'm sure I've done it loads too
😂😂😂 I now need to watch this back to check 😂😂 sounds better, they should change the company name 😂😂
Yay! This is the review that has 1k views but needs to be 100k. Alas, RUclips makes money from advertising. I can see a firmware update that addresses bitrate, but that won't solve the jittery lowlight video which is a deal breaker for me. I have my Pocket 3 and GoPro Hero 10, maybe looking to pick up the Ace Pro 2 soon.
Thank you for such a positive comment Tim, that’s kind of you. I just try to make informative videos with as much quality and info as possible. It’s have the pocket 3 too and I love it but it’s not the easiest thing to take out running and I worry about dropping it. The jittery footage is huge but insta 360 found a way to stop it so hopefully dji can also figure something out 🤞🏼
@@Runningonthemind Hopefully! I tried getting into running (I've been a gym rat for over 25 years) but sadly my outdoor allergies and my body just wouldn't allow it. I have jumper's knee or worse on my left leg, and I start getting tingles in my calf when I run at a certain speed or incline. I still try to get out and supplement an outdoor run from time to time though.
Training days and race days start in the dark. While I’ve always favored the GoPro daylight image, I need one camera for the day. Ace Pro is too large. With an expected firmware update, this camera should be on top for endurance athletes.
@@marc70.3 absolutely, totally agreed. I am a big fan of most things dji produce and I’m sure they will fix the issues sooner than later. If they can make the bitrate higher and find a way to reduce the jitter in very low light then it will be just about perfect. 👌🏼
Couldn't agree with you more! Exact same findings i had the first time i tested it.
Thanks for the feedback and appreciate you taking the time. Hoping they can address the issues soon 🤞🏼
Was it my phone or yours going off..good review..hope noise of neo doesn't annoy your neighbours
Thanks dude - I'm not sure, I don't think my phone was but maybe my kids in the background. thanks - My neighbours are old and probably can't hear it.. and my kids are noisier :-)
I've got the osmo action 3 when riding my motorbike. I love it. I'm still thinking why I should upgrade to 5pro
I never had the 3 but understand it’s still a very capable camera and a lot of people are sticking with it. I think it’s worth waiting a while and seeing what the status is of the 5 in about a month after the first rounds of firmware 👍
@Runningonthemind I have become less eager in my life. I believe that new products should undergo a minimum of 3 months of trials and errors to effectively address and resolve any issues. I will wait until the New Year
Thanks, really enjoyed this video. I have owned all the Osmo Action cameras and was thinking of buying the OA5 but I’m now going to wait to see if DJI does a firmware update to fix the bit rate. In the meantime, would you be able to do a Osmo Action 4 & 5 side by side comparison please?
You are very welcome, thank you for taking the time to comment as it means a lot to me. Yes I do plan to do a side by side soon in various conditions. Hopefully have that ready within a week or so. Have a great weekend and thanks again 👍
@@Runningonthemind great. I’ve also had formal notification from DJI that a FW update is imminent to sort out bitrate. It would be interesting to see a ‘before’ and ‘after’ video clip once FW update has been released to see if it has made any difference to video quality (higher bit rate that is)
Really appreciate the honesty great review
you're very welcome Nick, appreciate you taking the time to comment.
Would you buy a 4 rather than 5 if you are new to dji then?
I have both and at the moment I would say the 4 offers better value, but I think that will change after a few firmware updates on the 5.
I got a reason to wait for ace pro 2
It will be interesting to see what they release as the specs I’ve seen look amazing 👍
Hey can you upload some raw footages of action 5 and share the link?
@@rohan7011 hey - I’m not actually sure how to do that on YT but could do it elsewhere. Let me see what I can do
@@Runningonthemind you can send via we transfer or any free file transfer service... Btw thanks
If i understand well is not necessary to buy a micro ssd card, right?
Yes - there is 47ish gig of built in storage which is great 👍
it depends on that around 47GB internal storage whether is enough for your use case.
@@Shadowsing_kw 100%. In 4K it won’t last long but a few hours in emergency cases is great as a back up. I will always have. Large SD in there too 👍
You'll get about an hour and a 1/2 on 4K 30. With it With the internal sd
For example I always send videos on my MacBook and delete from camera, so I think it’s okay to have 47 Gb right?
Thank you for for putting the time in to edit this video and share this information. I started to buy the Action 5 the day it came out for the low light capability just as you did. However, putting the low light aside, as I watched many sponsored videos from creators doing side by side comparisons with the GoPro 13, I noticed the GoPro footage in daylight was clearly better looking than the Action 5 even though they were telling us it was not, so I decided to do more research. After finally seeing more videos from "Not Sponsored" creators, It has became obvious that the quality of the video footage from the Action 5 has way to much noise and unusable footage. I understand battery life, but I can replace a short life battery, I cannot recapture unusable video moments.
....and I've lost count of the moments lost due to my numerous Gopros freezing or not recording audio
You are welcome. I personally think all the different action cams have strengths and weaknesses. The go pro image quality is great but it hasn’t really come far since the hero 10 (asides from a real log profile now). Dji in my opinion has more reliability than GoPro and for me especially, the low light is way better. But dji are getting left behind a bit with only 4K compared to GoPro and what insta 360 are about to release with 8k. 👍
Increasing the bit rate will significantly reduce battery life.
Understand - but most people have several batteries and it’s pretty easy to replace them quickly. Personally for me, I’d be ok with a shorter battery life for increased quality, or at least to have the option to choose that. 👍
@@Runningonthemind I totally agree with you 👍
Appreciate the straight up review vs many others I'm seeing. Will wait to see if DJI 5 updates plus Ace Pro 2 comparison when it launches.
Thanks for the comment, appreciate you letting me know. I think waiting to see between the two is a good decision and will be an interesting battle 👍
Ace Pro it is then, as expected 😊
@@SharaRuns at the moment it looks that way. I’m looking forward to seeing what the ace pro 2 delivers. I have the x4 and the go 3s so happy with the insta 360 ecosystem also. Do you use the ace pro Shara? 👍
@@Runningonthemind I've only got the Go 3S but am also waiting to see what the Ace Pro 2 will deliver for us runners.
@@SharaRuns very cool - I knew you have the 3s from a few videos you’ve done but wasn’t sure if you had something else too. The DJi will come good with firmware I’m sure but the ace pro 2 sounds like it’s going to take some beating 👍
Thank God that someone on RUclips is finally telling the truth. With this bitrate of 60 it is a vlogging camera, nothing more and nothing less. When there is movement it becomes ugly, muddy and cloudy. It's a shame DJI, GoPro does it a little better with RAW and post-processing even in the dark. And in daylight the Hero13 definitely has the best color reproduction
@@JuiceBiker thanks so much that means a lot. The flurry of sponsored videos in here have been way over the top.. by all means have people give a view on the product but it’s obvious that people are worried about telling the truth about the current offering (which I’m sure will get better with firmware) because they don’t want to be excluded from the next new product from DJi when it comes. Appreciate it dude 🫡
Hero 13 is terrible in lowlight. As in worse than bad 😂
@@RoguePainter And the brightened, spongy nonsense is better? The GoPro can do that too. It's just that GoPro doesn't even offer such a mode.
@@JuiceBiker I was getting a bit rate of 80 for my downloads
@@MrArjay123 what?
Thank you for your honest review, which I had been eagerly awaiting. I have another question for you, since you already own this camera: Has the option to keep the screen always on while recording been removed?
@@Amer-m8y thanks so much, appreciate it. You can still have both screens always on, and they can display a variety of info but most useful being recording time in the current recording and what’s being recorded. 🫡
@Runningonthemind
For me, the most helpful feature is keeping the screen on while recording, as most of my videos are shot underwater.
@@Amer-m8y makes sense. The action 5 pro also have diving pressure and depth sensors which is cool and especially for somebody like yourself. It also has another 2 mtrs of waterproofing down to 20m without a case and 60 with. 👍
Dji Neo is great, but unfortunately, electronics tend to be quite pricey in India. I lost my job earlier this year, so things have been tough. I hope everything goes well for you...I am a huge fan of DJI products too sir
I hear you man. The Neo is actually pretty affordable here in the UK and although I already have the mini 4 and the mavic 3, I wanted something to take ruynning and also play with the kids with. image quality isn't amazing, but it's god enough in good light.
@@Runningonthemind You've got a solid setup with the Mini 4 and Mavic 3! The Neo sounds perfect for casual runs and fun with the kids. Enjoy the flights and family time sir!
Thanks
You’re welcome 🫡
I have the action 4 and ordered the action 5 pro ... it arrived yesterday , after some tests I have found the low light performance to be improved with noticeable reduction in low light noise , Im not sure what your expectations were with regard to jittery footage but in order to remove jitters a gimbal needs to be used as in the pocket 3 , the action 4 was improved from the 3 and the action 5 pro is a improvement from the action 4 both the action 4 and 5 are better than the gopro 13 when comparing low light jitters. Perhaps you should stick with the DJI pocket 3. (the only other way to reduce jitters is to have internal optical image stabilisation / sensor shift , there are physical constraints to this as it requires more space inside the device, I believe sony have this on one of their older action cameras but there is no screen and is lacking other features )
Sony did indeed have this feature on the X3000 Action Cam.
Unfortunately Sony just gave up on consumer goods and left the market.
They make most of their money from Sony Finance these days, apparently.
the action 5 is not an improvement , im keeping my 4 and returning the 5
@@Tonellacam What is not improved ? battery life , low light , dual mics , improved screens?
@@ppdrum I have posted on many other threads saying I don't shoot action sports at night nor do I need 2 mics nor active track so to me its not an upgrade , if those are things you need then it is an upgrade, but you are sacrificing lower bitrate and in my opinion worse footage then the action 4 in those upgrades, I love dji and have many products including RS3 pro , action 4 , mini pro 4 , dji mics, this was the first miss for me , I don't quite get what was going on here with this action 5
@@Tonellacam I read that the next software update will include higher bitrate options
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🫶🏻 thanks 🙏
Was toying with the 5 as an upgrade from my Action 3. My use case is similar to yours, as a helmet cam in dense forests on dirtbikes.
I make the A3 work for me by only using Rock Steady, not RS+.
That stops the jitters for me and the footage is perfectly usable.
Great to hear. I used both rocksteady and rocksteady+ in my tests and the results were pretty much the same. For my next early low light run I’m going to take the 4 and 5 with me to do a direct comparison. Have a great day and thanks for taking the time to share your experience 👍
@@Runningonthemind
Good plan, would be great to compare. 👍
Basically a lot of money for something that still doesn’t do the job.
At the moment, for my used case I think it's hard to argue with that. I must say in the daylight it was decent, just not anything notably better than the 4.
@@Runningonthemind okay. Thanks for your valuable feedback.
I own the Dji mic 1, do you know if it can be paired with this camera also?
@@mat-ventures I think you can but I’m not sure about Bluetooth.. you may need the receiver in the usbc port for it to work.
@@Runningonthemind OK if I finally buy the action 5, I will try it ;) thanks
@@mat-ventures you’re welcome dude, appreciate the interaction. 👍
Feeling better about my GoPro 13 black purchase after watching this video! Knew the Action 5 Pro had some issues...but man! You really showcased the weak spots with this video. Appreciate the honesty! If that's what you use the camera for (early morning runs in low light)...totally makes sense why you should return it. Won't be everyone's use case but it all depends on how a person plans on using their action camera.
You’re welcome dude, appreciate you taking the time. I think with all the action cams they all excel in some areas and weak in others. I hear great things about the image quality in the GoPro 13 but not so much the lower light capabilities which are important to me. So totally agree that it all depends on how the user intends to use it because one case maybe totally the opposite to another persons. Have a great day fella and thanks for the feedback 👍🫡
I Will stick with the Insta360 AcePro its a good camera and has held up with the type of motorcycle riding I do.
The ace pro is a great camera. I have the x4 and the go 3s too and I’m intrigued by what the ace pro 2 will deliver. I may end up checking that out and deciding which to keep out of the action 5 pro and the Ace pro 2. 👍