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  • @ushwallman2070
    @ushwallman2070 Год назад +159

    Stealth saw all the meme ships people sent him and said, "I have to teach these people how to do it right."

    • @Stealth17Gaming
      @Stealth17Gaming  Год назад +58

      Like I need help making meme ships xD

    • @southernwolfgaming
      @southernwolfgaming Год назад +9

      @@Stealth17Gaming ain't it though. We all know how to make meme ships. Lol

  • @Stealth17Gaming
    @Stealth17Gaming  Год назад +27

    The plan: nice and short battleship tutorial.
    The result: this giant of a video
    Hope it's useful anyway.

    • @Titan-3078
      @Titan-3078 Год назад +3

      As long a it prevents abominations like the nagasaki, you've achieved something

    • @Wtdtd
      @Wtdtd Год назад +1

      BTW the game is no longer in early access, so that excuse no longer flies

  • @uteriel282
    @uteriel282 6 месяцев назад +5

    when deciding on barrel number per turret it needs to be said that a higher barrel count reduces the amount of required turrets to reach the desired number of guns and with it the weight of the ship.
    3 tripple turrets bring 9 guns to the table while twin turrets require 5 to get the same result.
    the more turrets the more weight and the bigger the citadel which increases the weight of the ship even more.

  • @KizaruBorsalino
    @KizaruBorsalino Год назад +42

    The real difference between the different citadel schemes is the purpose they have. The turtleback armor scheme is basically a additional plating behind the main belt that is leaned on the citadel (the top of it is attached to the top of the citadel while the bottom is attached to the bottom of the main belt under the waterline, it's called turtleback because if you look at the armor from the front without the fore belt it looks like a turtle shell. The purpose of this is defend especially against close to medium range fire where the shells come with an almost flat trajectory. The main belt slows the shells with it's thickness making them lose some energy and penetration value and then the inner angled plate bounces them upwards so that they exit through the main deck without exploding in the best case, if they do explode, they damage the upper compartments which is still better than a direct citadel hit. It was especially used by german and french BBs historically.
    The all or nothing scheme is basically about protecting the most vital parts of the ship in great priority while sacrificing the protection of less important parts, so basically, very strong main deck with multiple layers, very strong main belt and the rest is futile. It's quite risky because it's basically intended to block all damage head on, quite the opposite the turtleback which is more intended to "redirect" rather than block. While your citadel is pretty garanteed not to take any hits unless you face very big caliber guns, any shells that manages to pen will cause full penetration damage since it's basically impossible to overpenetrate such an armor layout. But unlike the turtleback that focuses on main belt defense, this layout does that a very strong multilayered deck which makes it very resistant to plunging shells (long distance fire basically).
    So long story short, if you're making a brawler BB that's gonna fight at close range and take lots of hits, use turtleback. You want a BB that fights at greater ranges with big caliber guns, then use citadel V.

  • @Hastur_the_King_in_Yellow
    @Hastur_the_King_in_Yellow Год назад +22

    31:52 "Although for what this costs, I generally take at least 1." Stealth says as memories of Regina's Last Stand come unwanted to the forefront of his memory.

    • @gamer-1100
      @gamer-1100 Год назад +1

      what video is that?

    • @MikelH0
      @MikelH0 Год назад +1

      @@gamer-1100 the final battle-italian fast ship campaign
      Third battle

    • @Hastur_the_King_in_Yellow
      @Hastur_the_King_in_Yellow Год назад

      @@gamer-1100 ruclips.net/video/TXzn7oiKTyk/видео.html

  • @gabrielmora8403
    @gabrielmora8403 Год назад +34

    For new players: Superstructure armor is one of the most important armors to have. You don't need a lot, but you can't have zero superstructure armor. In the German Big Guns campaign (about a year back I think) the light cruiser Ariadne sunk a whole battlecruiser (possibly multiple). Her armament was some 7.9 and 3.9 inch guns. The only way she sunk those battlecruisers was because they didnt have any armor on its superstructure. So moral of the story, always put armor on your superstructure. Even just .5 inches can save you from that.

    • @sasquatchman22
      @sasquatchman22 Год назад +2

      I always try to have at least 3.5 inches superstructure. It's enough to keep out most DD and CL shells. Though there is an argument for 5 or 6 inches as to even give CAs a hard time.

    • @suribachi8698
      @suribachi8698 Год назад +1

      I average about 3"-4" superstructure in earlier years (1890-1910) and 4"-5" in later years (1910+) because I want my ships to be nearly immune to HE shells. With that scheme, unless I fall behind in armor type research, roughly 14" down cannot pen superstructure with HE in perfect conditions at 1,000 yards. But that is a preference thing for me or a hyperbole reaction to having 0" armor on superstructure. Who knows?

    • @nigelmacbug6678
      @nigelmacbug6678 Год назад +1

      @@sasquatchman22 l take base 6" for all armour +as much main armour l can squeeze in
      one side effect is my conning tower is never hit so just 12", planning to lower it
      2nd it seem to reduce crew deaths

    • @MikelH0
      @MikelH0 Год назад +1

      What episode did ariadne sink the battlecruisers

  • @thatguyoverthere9634
    @thatguyoverthere9634 Год назад +11

    In my experience playing basically only the early years, fast battleships are more important than everything else because torpedoes are basically the only way to kill capital ships in a reasonable amount of time.
    Torpedo boats basically commit to suicide missions against larger ships and cruisers are just nice for dealing with whatever your battleships can't catch

    • @suribachi8698
      @suribachi8698 Год назад +1

      For this reason I run BBs as BB and CA killers and I also have CLs for everything else. Though in practice, my CLs are built, by accident, in a way where I can kill most anything 1 on 1 with it unless it is a BB. This lasts me until I am building modern cruisers in the 1920s and dreadnaughts in the 1910s.

    • @Nikarus2370
      @Nikarus2370 Год назад

      Yeah I also disagree with the video about that bit.
      Even if you can only get, 18.5kn on your battleships, that's a far cry from 15, and you can just turn tail in fights, avoid enemy battleships and CAs, and have a long time for enemy CLs and TBs to close with you. Might be "cheesy" but a lot of battles I play in the 1890s are basically my battleships and CLs sailing in a line perpendicular to where the enemies are coming from, and picking off all the fast ships. Once most of the TBs are damaged or sunk, then turn in to engage the heavies.
      Also with CAs or CLs, if your top speed is 2-3 more than the enemy, seems to roll pretty well on "Withdraw" on the map to just avoid unfavorable fights.

  • @patangman2117
    @patangman2117 Год назад +8

    For 1890 ships I always do single barrel. It increases the accuracy greatly. I do secondary's as well, because all you need is to invest in better optica such as stereo and your accuracy will be miles higher than the enemy. Those secondary's will start hitting with experience and better optics. I also add torpedoes and put them on aggressive. I don't expect to hit anything, but torpedoes generally scatter enemies. And if you fire aggressively you will fire first, Early on few ships will have protective stuff so a few good 10 or 11 inch hits, and especially below the belt, will sink even the biggest BBs. You might want to consider downgrading 2" guns to 1.1 inch. The fire rate will increase and with around 1 percent hit chance you are looking at lots of potential hits on TBs. They will have to get within 0.9 miles and you're looking at lots of shots down range. You can always refit a few years later when you have better stuff in order to add some speed, armor, protection and accuracy.

  • @brooksrownd2275
    @brooksrownd2275 Год назад +9

    I'd say speed matters quite a bit even in 1890. An 1890 battleship can't do much in battle besides the coup-de-grace with its derpy guns, but damaging/sinking/losing a BB in battle gives a lot of victory points. You always want to have some reasonable ability to disengage, or just don't bother building them at all.

  • @CatNibbles
    @CatNibbles Год назад +2

    I like how you and me basically came to very similar conclusions to most build systems.

  • @OmegaInfinita
    @OmegaInfinita Год назад +7

    Really glad you made this, I was a little bit annoyed with the Japan campaign with a lot of the ship designs. I get some of them were meme designs, but even ones that aren't tend to go with the biggest guns over everything else. Little thought goes into weight savings, cost savings, what you're designing the ship to be facing, things like that. For instance, when I am doing my own Japan campaign I tend to start off with shorter-range ships, since I'm most likely going to be engaging in my home waters than abroad. I also don't focus on the biggest guns for my battleships, I'd rather have Mk.3 12-in guns than mk.2 14-in guns. The pen is enough pre 1915-20 that the accuracy and RoF is much more important. Not only that, but the weight saving from the smaller guns afford more towards either speed, armor, or more/better secondary guns. I also see a lot of people just stacking guns in every spot they can find, even on ships that would be just as, if not more, effective with a few less guns but more speed/armor. There's tons of other mistakes I see people making when trying to design an effective ship, like always maxing out the barrel length, going for better pen rounds over more damaging ones, and many more. I do fully understand that in the end the whole point of the game is to design a ship that YOU like, the way YOU want it, but when it comes to making a ship for sharing with others or for other people to use, it gets really frustrating.
    Really didn't mean this to be so long; basically just thanks for the vid, as always, and hopefully we will start seeing more practical and/or useful ships sailing the seas.
    Edit: In classic fashion, I realize *after* posting this comment that I'm being way too serious about this lol.

  • @notarobot7620
    @notarobot7620 Год назад +4

    I've already ironed out my design philosophy pretty well, but seeing other people's is fun. Generally I like to build my battleships as reasonably priced, multi-purpose ships with minimum of 15'' belt, 30kn speed, and at least 15'' guns (late game). My battlecruisers I just try and build as fast battleships - their low resistance still means they struggle against dedicated bbs, but the battle-ship level armour lets them survive a lot longer. I might also build an Alaska-class style light battlecruiser with 12'' guns for cruiser hunting, but sometimes I build that on a CA hull instead with 11s. As for heavy cruisers, 9 or 10 inch guns for the added punch, in ABX triple or ABXY dual layouts. Light cruisers I tend to ignore because they're painfully fragile, almost as expensive as a heavy cruiser, and don't to anything a heavy cruiser can't. Destroyers I find work best with lighter armaments of 3-4 inch guns to pepper other dds, and I like to build all my destroyers as mixed gunship and torpedo boat, or dedicated gunship. I don't do full torpedo build destroyers because they're just to inconsistent and frustrating.

  • @dougfoust117
    @dougfoust117 Год назад +4

    I love the turbo electric drive+ batteries combo. It's so heavy, but you're so hard to actually hurt. They can make the green bar go down, but all the modules keep running.

    • @CommanderNissan
      @CommanderNissan Год назад +1

      Down but not out, you’re still in the green

  • @unclegreybeard3969
    @unclegreybeard3969 Год назад +7

    You can make your design to combat large BBs or smaller cruisers, but in campaign mode you can't choose what the opposition will use, sending a cruiser hunter against a couple of BBs could be disastrous, therefore perhaps the better option would be middle ground designs rather than specialists.

    • @saintsword23
      @saintsword23 6 месяцев назад

      Cruiser hunters use less weight on gunnery and can therefore use more for speed to disengage from such fights.

  • @kingswagii1607
    @kingswagii1607 Год назад +4

    I have a thousand hours on this game, just the steam version. I've already crafted my own design philosophy. Still love to see how other people build and handle their warships.

    • @Hastur_the_King_in_Yellow
      @Hastur_the_King_in_Yellow Год назад +3

      How do you set your ships up? Always looking for new techniques to try out.

    • @gabrielmora8403
      @gabrielmora8403 Год назад +1

      What's your ship doctrine? I just kinda put things on and hope it works(it usually does)

    • @blademaster2390
      @blademaster2390 Год назад +2

      Personally, here’s how I design my ships:
      Battleships: anti-capital ship, long range. Generally fit with 13-16” main guns
      Battlecruisers: General-purpose brawlers. Effective in the majority of situtations. Generally fit with 10-12” main guns and 5-8” secondaries.
      Heavy Cruisers: Anti-cruiser. Generally fit with 7-8” main guns, 3-5” secondaries for dealing with destroyers that get too close.
      Light Cruisers: Anti-destroyer. Main guns are 4-5”, secondaries are 2-3”, and fit as many guns as possible. Effectively: gunship. Accuracy is moot, because you and your enemy are going to maneuvering so much it won’t matter.
      Maybe fit a single or double torpedo launcher or two for combating capital ships, just in case.
      Destroyers: zerg. Fast, agile, as many torpedoes as you can fit. At most 2-3 gun turrets. Cheap, and quick to build. Designed specifically to rush enemy capital ships, deal _as much damage as physically possible_ with torpedoes, and get out to reload.
      As an example: i have a Destroyer design I’m currently using in a 1920 campaign as Japan that’s capable of 37.4 knots and has 11x 19” torpedo tubes, plus increased torpedo capacity.

    • @nigelmacbug6678
      @nigelmacbug6678 Год назад +1

      BB, 1915, 30 -33 knot, lowest draught, +3-5 beam for balance of engine weight, ricochet, accuracy. many bulkheads
      all armour 6" ,12"+main deck,18"+main belt.12" conning tower
      4x3 14.7" +6 calibre 15" 9" 15". 8x3 6.6", barrel length what give 3"+ deck pen at 2500m. light shells, large magazine.4.2"4.2"4.2" tube,tnt. cap ballistic
      max armour, rest lvl 2 protections
      rest chosen on weight and flaws

    • @kingswagii1607
      @kingswagii1607 Год назад +1

      Generally I prefer a "High quality balance" Scheme. IE, I build a few ships with much better tech overall. Say a battleship of 1910. I use the highest mark of a big gun I can get. So if I had mark 3 13" guns and mark 1 14" guns I'd always go for the more advanced weapon, the 13". When it comes to armor, I prefer to match the gun diameter in belt armor thickness when possible, but 12" main belt at a minimum. Turrets should always have 2-3+ inches more armor than their own gun barrel diameter. Extendeds should have 4-6" with the main deck being 6-8" and the extended decks being half that. When it comes to speed, in that era I stay between 21-24 knots. Obviously this increases as the era's advance, but my ships tend to be simple but effective. Max bulkheads, best available tech, usually a uniform secondary battery (or at most only two secondary calibers) with 8 main guns at a minimum. I've found that time and time again a well controlled ship of high quality can out perform several ships of a substantially lower quality. This means I usually have much less ships than the AI, but I can manage it because my ships individually end up outperforming everything the AI has. The other thing I do is get the ship as balanced as physically possible, usually to within .1% of perfect balance if perfect balance is unattainable.

  • @muttley00
    @muttley00 Год назад +6

    Only a descriptive error but funnels are exhausts not intakes, some say with intakes, they are then referring to the small curved pipes that are sometimes present, which seem to be for decorative purposes only, They also appear on some hulls, separate from the funnel(s). Like on the oldest hull you used on this vid. Good vid, bye the way.

  • @meili4790
    @meili4790 Год назад

    Dude, I have never played this game but I'll be damned if I don't watch these vids anyways because you've got such a chill vibe. So easy to relax and just enjoy the explosions ❤ keep up the great work!

  • @VuldEdone
    @VuldEdone Год назад +2

    First rule of YT: only comment after you listened to the whole video. Aaaaand I'll break it.
    Thing is, I'll make two remarks I realize might only apply to France, because 1890 France is basically overpowered.
    > With a tech-rush for Coinc 1, 50mm secondaries on French ships, glad to their wide fields of fire, will repel small ships and even burn bigger ones fairly reliably. So yeah, put as many of those as possible. Forget 100mm though, they are less accurate at very-short range (~1km, where you need them) and fire slower, which is bad to stop the small fry.
    > Until "induced boilers" is unlocked, speed should be around 17-18kn. Once "induced boilers" is unlocked I up it to 19kn but also, and crucially, long-range (for the range slider) becomes mandatory. Range decides if your ship gets in battle so, yeah. French ships have the added bonus of a very high range, it's easy to get them past 10,000km. But it's the slider that matters.
    I still struggle to tell, mostly because my campaigns have a hard time reaching that stage, how to handle the 1910 transition.
    Until 1910, close-range engagements are the norm. I know "coincidence" rules until Coinc' 2, but as a rule of thumb I switch to Stereo' 3 and stick to Stereo' from that point on, as ships are meant to stay at range by then -- enemy accuracy becomes too great, and your armor won't protect you so much anymore. Also, torpedoes.
    But I've yet to figure when to give up on 50mm to switch to either 100mm or 150mm secondaries. 150mm secondaries are my go to in 1930-40, the multirole turret by excellence, though again other players could correct me. I also notice that around 1910 I'm stuck with 300mm turrets for my BBs, and lack the firepower to really hurt my enemies. That's probably because I tech-rush rangefinders (and armor) for too long, so I would probably only tech-rush "Harvey" armor and up to "Stereostopic 3".
    (Exception being DDs who can't hit anything at range even in 1910, I think, so I would stick with Coinc' and 50mm for them even then.)
    Oh, and on ship class...
    The BB does everything. I only build TBs (and later DDs) for the campaign level: to screen against subs/mines, to help intercept and to protect/attack convoys. I also only build CAs for foreign station, and possibly to attack convoys. That's because, as said, French BBs can fend for themselves and pretty much do everything as well as any other ship, so why bother.
    Again, all of that is only viable with France, and the reason why I have so much trouble picking up another country where every BB hull feels worse to me.
    EDIT: regarding torpedo protection, "resistance" is what matters most to me. Resistance has an absurd effect (or at least had, back when I played later eras) that basically dwarves armor itself. It might be worth having a smaller armor for more resistance -- not sure about that.
    This is why, even though I expect zero torpedo hit, I always get torpedo protection up to anti-torp' 2. Past that it gets a bit pricey for me -- like triple bottom -- and I've yet to really play with that. The meta might incentivize going anti-torp 5 always, triple-bottom and drop armor for all of that.
    EDIT2: One more remark, on late-game secondaries: they are vulnerabilities for your BBs. You still need them, especially since CA/CLs may not want to stay near them for screening (due to collateral damage), but any secondary gun is an occasion for the enemy to pen'.

  • @TheManofthecross
    @TheManofthecross Год назад +1

    Don’t forget it also depends on the person who makes it. I tend to while playing as the us I tend to go for speedy load outs for all of the class’s so they can catch anyone trying to run away and be capable to fight anywhere. Go for stability and when the shipyard max building space calls for as much room as you can get before loading it up. Also helps having plenty of secondaries and barblets to deal with smaller shops and with the bb’s I have a solid track record of them taking out destroyers by themselves with ease. Also helps with a trained crew though I do tend to keep the reload rate at standard and not go for the enhanced reloads cause I tend to go for the long range shootouts if I can and then get close latter.

  • @TheRenegadeMarine
    @TheRenegadeMarine Год назад +1

    @Stealth17Gaming I LOVED the video! I've also watched BrotherMunro's guides and I may need to do a hybrid of sorts as, thanks to his videos, I SWEAR by geared turbines on everything. I think the beauty of this game is that once you learn the mechanics, you can be successful.

  • @KaiserHabsburg
    @KaiserHabsburg Год назад +3

    I generally only build battleships for enemy battleships. I make cruiser navys. Battlecruisers, Heavy cruisers being the mains. with a good light cruiser destroyer screen.

    • @damackabet.4611
      @damackabet.4611 Год назад

      Heavy cruisers are trash from my experience and at best mid, battlecruisers are godly though. I like numerous battle cruisers, a few battleships just because any real navy should have one just to say they do, and a shit load of cheap destroyers with enough torpedoes to blow a mountain. Light cruisers are ok but that all they are.

    • @KaiserHabsburg
      @KaiserHabsburg Год назад

      @@damackabet.4611 Dds are pointless if you have good range finders towers ect. they cant get close enough if your using cruisers. and battleships are pointless for much the same reason. i just A. dont need to fight them.
      Or B if i do. i outnumber them by so much and have equal or better firepower that it doesnt mater. The only time battleships matter is when you focus on battleships yourself.

  • @AdmiralSnackbar-iw5mg
    @AdmiralSnackbar-iw5mg Год назад +3

    25:00 It can be useful on a battleship if you anticipate juking torpedo salvo, but probably not worth the cost relative to alternatives.

  • @Tiglath-Pileser3
    @Tiglath-Pileser3 Год назад +1

    The only thing I would argue is Maximum bulkheads as a "must have." Standard is my standard, and has been for hundreds of hours in game. Losing a ship lighter than a cruiser to sustained fire is something that has not happened to me since... the old days of 100+ ship doom stacks. Still, max bulkheads is not a wrong choice, just a different way to allocate weight. I simply prefer to use that weight elsewhere.

  • @BrigadierBill
    @BrigadierBill Год назад +3

    I am looking forward to one on destroyers, given that my newest game is struggling hugely with pitch and roll problems on a modern destroyer hull. Destroyer 3 can keep them down to 20% or less with 6x5 inch guns and 9x20 inch torpedoes, but the modern destroyer hull found itself struggling to match that on more displacement while struggling even more with pitch and roll (25%+).
    I don't have half as many problems with cruisers or capital ships as I do with DDs.

  • @cbearabc
    @cbearabc Год назад +2

    Thanks! 😎

  • @midnighteclipsed2738
    @midnighteclipsed2738 Год назад +2

    Me : "LAUGH IN WAR CRIME" Spam incendiary, watch screen filled with enemy sunk from extensive fire

  • @Austrium1483
    @Austrium1483 Год назад +4

    People fear that they will abandon this game now, since they left early access, also the feature of dynamic hull creation never came into game and that was one of the biggest promises the devs made. I just Hope they will continue on this game and not just abandon it like their previous game or Cold Waters for example.
    But many people in the steam review hopes that someone makes a game with the same concept but in a better way.

    • @Stealth17Gaming
      @Stealth17Gaming  Год назад +3

      The dynamic hull design as shown in the early trailer from years ago has been abandoned a long time ago. That's not coming to the game as far as I know.

  • @Trifler500
    @Trifler500 Год назад +1

    4:48 - A lot of those funnels you tried here will fit when holding down Ctrl

  • @stevelenox152
    @stevelenox152 Год назад +2

    That was a very enjoyable and informative tutorial they should hire you for the job looking forward to the next one

  • @Italianplayercvu
    @Italianplayercvu Год назад +2

    I just realized many dumb things i've been doing in this game for over a year

  • @saintsword23
    @saintsword23 6 месяцев назад

    I've been building my early battleships with very low draught. By doing this, the ship's deck sits higher in the water and I can just eliminate deck armor entirely, saving me a ton of weight. On the flip side you can build cruisers with low muzzle velocity to force shells to fire at a higher angle and hit deck armor. Later in the campaign ranges become much greater and plunging fire is inevitable, so this only works early on.

  • @rickb2042
    @rickb2042 Год назад +2

    Thnx for this tutorial stealth! Would like more of them :) of op z’n oer-Hollands houwen zo!!

  • @Ian84ish
    @Ian84ish Год назад +1

    Personally in 1890 campaign focus on smaller ships till you research Harvey Armour, no point in having a large quantity of BB's as it cost a fortune to refit the ships and become obsolete very quickly

  • @nigelmacbug6678
    @nigelmacbug6678 Год назад +1

    the biggest disadvantage of long barrels is the low deck penetration, speed is a great DD defence reduce closing rate as you retreat, increasing number of shots

  • @stevequerin2504
    @stevequerin2504 Год назад +1

    CREW ACCOMMODATIONS
    "Cramped" and "Standard" and "Spacious" are primarily for establishing Ship Operational Range.
    "Cramped" Crew Accommodations are for Warships that don't venture very far from Home Ports.
    "Standard" and "Spacious" Crew Accommodations are for Warships that venture far away from Home Ports.
    1890s Warship Designs are primarily Home Territory Defense Warship Designs; and, not Foreign Territory Invasion Warship Designs; although, Foreign Territory Invasion Designs are coming into being during this time period.

    • @Stealth17Gaming
      @Stealth17Gaming  Год назад +1

      Wrong. Crew quarters have 0 in-game impact on how far a ship can travel.

    • @stevequerin2504
      @stevequerin2504 Год назад +1

      @@Stealth17Gaming ... You are correct.
      However, "Cramped" Crew Accommodations do affect Real Life Crew Morale (I don't know about UA:D Crew Morale); thus, on Coastal Warship Designs that don't stray very far from their Home Ports won't experience Crew Morale Issues; as much as, Warship Designs that are designed to cross the Atlantic and/or the Pacific; or, that travel from The Northern Sea to The Mediterranean Sea.
      EXAMPLE
      If you playing Austria-Hungary; and, were only interested in Italy's that are across the Sea; then, all of your Warship Designs could be built with "Cramped" Few Accommodations for maxing out Speed and Armor and Weapons.
      However, the UA:D Crew Accommodation Mechanics would render your Warships hard to operate once damaged in battle.
      However, once the battle is over, getting that Damaged Warship back to Home Port will be easy; compared to, that Warship being damaged in battle along the French Mediterranean Shoreline.
      Real Life VS Game System Mechanics

    • @Stealth17Gaming
      @Stealth17Gaming  Год назад +1

      @@stevequerin2504 In real-life, sure. In this game, no.

  • @Blutrauschhobbit
    @Blutrauschhobbit Год назад +2

    6:49 You kind of misspoke there. More modern armor is usually lighter and tougher, while being more expensive and later adding ship flaws. According to the description this should be the case here as well. bug?

  • @jeffreynagy7112
    @jeffreynagy7112 Год назад +1

    They did announce a few days ago that the game is no longer in early access and is in full release.

  • @saintsword23
    @saintsword23 6 месяцев назад

    My general design philosophy:
    BBs: Tanks. I build them only as cruiser killers so I can maximize armor (especially torpedoes! I maximize torpedo protection without question), DD protection, and speed. Give them every protection against fire and flooding, particularly the former. I never give them torpedoes! Ever! I give them low draught so they sit high in the water and are less vulnerable to deck hits. I generally only build very few BBs (2-ish) as their main purpose is to be at the front of battles near my home waters.
    BC: Maximize operational range. These are your convoy raiders and defenders. They're also kiters: lots of speed and accurate, long range firepower. Dont brawl with them. Don't build them to take out BBs. They should kill convoys and cruisers from a safe range. I usually avoid torpedoes on them as well given their high range. I also give them copious amounts of small guns to deal with DDs.
    CAs: I build these as cheap BB killers. They should have very low muzzle velocity and high range to increase firing arc. More firepower and less armor is the order here (we want BB shells to overpen!). The intention is plunging fire into the deck armor. In later eras deck armor gets thicker and you have to switch to AP. If I can't pen deck armor with CAs anymore I either start building BBs that can or avoiding fights with BBs. I build everything especially fast so I can choose my fights.
    CLs: Standard gun ships. Their purpose is screening for DDs, torp spotting, and setting fires. I also try to minimize muzzle velocity as best I can in case I want to try to pen deck armor. Always have torpedoes.
    DDs: Come in two types: attached and detached. Attached DDs travel with task forces and emphasize utility (all have anti-mine and ASW) and operational range at the cost of speed. Detached DDs are spread everywhere near my home waters. They emphasize low cost and ASW. They sacrifice operational range for more speed to disengage.

  • @andrew3203
    @andrew3203 Год назад +1

    the final ship version needs 3 of 3-barrel turrets for the main guns.

  • @wedointensegaminghere
    @wedointensegaminghere Год назад +4

    I have something to say usually enhanced reloading takes off 3-7s so in my opinion enhanced reloading is not worth it. Also good video.

    • @VuldEdone
      @VuldEdone Год назад +1

      It may not, but is it really taking that much weight? I never put it any thought, for secondaries early on rof is critical, so I always take it.

    • @notarobot7620
      @notarobot7620 Год назад +2

      @@VuldEdone It does tend to add on 1-2 percent of weight, but it also hurts accuracy, turret traverse speed and (if I recall correctly) makes you more vulnerable to ammunition detonations. It's not worth it in my opinion.

    • @VuldEdone
      @VuldEdone Год назад +1

      @@notarobot7620 Good to know, thanks. Accuracy and detonation do sound bad, I could drop it as well.

    • @CommanderNissan
      @CommanderNissan Год назад +1

      @@notarobot7620 that is incorrect. It increases weight, increases cost, decreases aiming speed, and decreases turret speed. It does not affect accuracy values, explosion chance, or design flaws, assuming that the guns are fully aimed.

  • @stevequerin2504
    @stevequerin2504 Год назад +1

    GUN CALIBER
    03:20 - 03:43
    You are wrong about the term "Caliber".
    12"/38
    -- 12" = Ammunition Diameter (aka Ammunition Size)
    -- 38 = Gun Caliber (aka Barrel Length in relation to Ammunition Diameter)
    Gun Barrel Length is 38 * 12" = 076 + 380 = 456 Inches => 38 Ft 0 In
    It is true that Infantry Weaponry and Land-Based Artillery does use the term "Caliber" to mean Ammunition Diameter.
    However, the USA Infantry Round .45/70 is representative of the Ammunition Cartridge Design; and, not representative of the Firearm Design.
    Your .45/70 Rifle could have a 13-Inch Barrel, or a 19-Inch Barrel, or a 26-Inch Barrel, or a 28-Inch Barrel; which, is dependent upon the Rifle Design that is being used.
    The .45/70 was primarily used as a Sharps Single-Shot Rifle Round; which, had a Fixed Barrel Length (I am not sure what that Barrel Length was).
    The 13-Inch Barrel Rifle and 19-Inch Barrel Rifle that I mentioned are primarily the Pistol-Rifle Designs; which, were Pistols that had Rifle Stocks as Accessory Items for better Barrel Stability for shooting at the longer Rifle Ranges that Standard Pistol Designs couldn't reach.
    RUclipsr "Drachinefil" specializes in Military Naval Warfare; and, could get into more detail than I can concerning Naval Artillery Weaponry & Ammunition.
    ULTIMATE ADMIRAL: DREADNOUGHTS Naval Gun Barrel Length Game System Mechanics isn't a good representation of Naval Gun Caliber Mechanics; but, it works at representing the Minimums and Maximums of Naval Artillery Gun Barrel Lengths.
    I surely don't know how to make a better Game System Mechanics for Naval Gun Calibers.
    14:40 - 16:27
    Increasing the Barrel Diameter also increases the Gun Weight; which, does include the Armor Weight for the Armor Rating for that Gun Turret.
    Increasing Gun Barrel Length also increases that Gun's Weight.
    Decreasing Gun Barrel Length also decreases that Gun's Weight.

  • @kineuhansen8629
    @kineuhansen8629 Год назад +3

    problem with this is hitting the damn target and for some reason smaller ships can kill a battleship in period 1910

  • @dogukan127
    @dogukan127 Год назад +3

    Whats the strategy with barrel amounts? And why do you never use the side-by-side main gunds?
    Sometimes I put two one barrel main guns side by side. Is it too disadventegous?

    • @FlotationDevice101
      @FlotationDevice101 Год назад +2

      Well from memory (you should just compare it yourself) you are blocking your own turret and adding needless weight and cost, depending on the tech level 1 barrel almost always inferior to 2 and 3 barrel.

    • @KizaruBorsalino
      @KizaruBorsalino Год назад +2

      Using one barrel is really not a great idea. Although less barrels generally means more accuracy and better reload time, the gains are not enough to really outweight the cons of it. Say you want a BB with a full salvo of 8 shells, you could use either 2 quad-guns, 4 twins or 8 single guns. The 8 single guns would give you more base accuracy and better reload but you will also have way more displacement used for guns, because at equivalent caliber, 8 turrets will always be heavier than 2 or 4 turrets. Which means you will have way less available displacement and cost to spend on other aspect, so you will end up with a ship that has slightly better gun performances, but considerably worse armor, mobility and equipments. So here is the question, is a slight improvement on firepower worth sacrificing a good part of your defense and mobility? Personally i always use twin guns. I feel like it's the best compromise between having decent accuracy and reload without taking too much space and displacement.

    • @uteriel282
      @uteriel282 6 месяцев назад

      more turrets = more weight and bigger citadel which = even more weight.
      usualy 3 tripple turrets is good enough for battleships and battlecruisers.

  • @doktork3406
    @doktork3406 Год назад +1

    33:20
    I hear this a lot: what's up with that description? Shouldn't ships have watertight doors already?
    You have to read the description a different way, the watertight doors are implied.
    No upgrade = normal bulkeheads and normal watertight doors
    Upgrade 1 = reinforced bulkheads and normal watertight doors
    Upgrade 2 = reinforced bulkeads and reinforced watertight doors.
    It's like saying "Reinforced bulkeads and (reinforced - implied-) watertight doors"

  • @ranaruck
    @ranaruck Год назад

    HI, thanks for the video. Can you point me to a guide where it explains the battle HUD. I am trying to figure out the colors and compartments and legends of the enemy (and friendly) vessels when you hover over them. Top right corner. I see the fire in some compartment. But I cannot understand anything at all.

  • @TheRealFernancoTachanka
    @TheRealFernancoTachanka 10 месяцев назад

    My best advice is aiming systems

  • @bajasmancer
    @bajasmancer Год назад

    Anyone knows what that red area on the displacement slider is? It seems like if I keep ships below the red area, they don't bug out when I see them in the shared designs screen, but they seem to load right into battle anyway in skirmish. Some ships in the earlier periods have red all along the slider, so I'm just very confused why they have it there at all if it just causes bugs. It also seems to correspond better to historical displacements when kept inside the white, so it seems like it's meant to be a hard limit...

  • @Darius-scifieart
    @Darius-scifieart Год назад +1

    Until the incendiaries are balanced in a more realistic way battleships stop being viable pretty quickly. It's just too easy to burn them down using fast firing guns on well armored smaller ships.

    • @notarobot7620
      @notarobot7620 Год назад

      But that isn't as fun, and the AI doesn't know how to burn you down, so it's all good.

  • @Lord_Amadee
    @Lord_Amadee Год назад +3

    Will you make guides for the other types too?

    • @Stealth17Gaming
      @Stealth17Gaming  Год назад +8

      Yes. As stated in the first 15 seconds of the video

    • @gabrielmora8403
      @gabrielmora8403 Год назад +2

      Stealth chose passive aggressive today

    • @Stealth17Gaming
      @Stealth17Gaming  Год назад +2

      @@gabrielmora8403 No I can't stand people who post a comment without even checking if it's in the video. I expected the question so I answered it in the first 15 seconds.

    • @Lord_Amadee
      @Lord_Amadee Год назад +1

      @@Stealth17Gaming Sorry dude, i was genuinely distracted and missed it, wasn't my intention to be an ass.

    • @Stealth17Gaming
      @Stealth17Gaming  Год назад +1

      @@Lord_Amadee Ok

  • @krzysztofkosowski2102
    @krzysztofkosowski2102 Год назад +2

    "More advanced tutorial"😁

    • @Stealth17Gaming
      @Stealth17Gaming  Год назад +1

      This isn't the one I had in mind when we talked about it in the comments.

  • @KG-1
    @KG-1 Год назад +1

    I haven't played in over a year and then only briefly, so the guide was very useful in seeing what's been improved. The armor scheme fixes are massive and make much more sense.
    I'm curious what the rationale is for longer guns = longer reload times.
    Have to go back and watch Drach's video on rangefinders, but I know before seems like devs have it backward on better tracking with coincident vs. Stereo.
    I'm going to believe Drach before I believe these devs any day though.
    The last time I watched a UAD video from you Stealth, you'd given up on the system - guess the new patch changed that enough to revisit then?

  • @ProjectAtlasmodling
    @ProjectAtlasmodling Год назад +1

    You can get compound to work your just not as thick

  • @sgxbot
    @sgxbot Год назад

    all the engines have different cruise speeds. how much does that matter in game?
    diesel 1 for example has a cruise speed of 80% of the top speed while steam is at around 50%. would that give diesel a place over geared turbines for ships like battleships that want to keep a high speed to be harder to hit while wanting the cruise speed accuracy bonus as well?

    • @damackabet.4611
      @damackabet.4611 Год назад

      At cruise speed accuracy is increased by 10-33% of hit chance from what I've seen and being able to move at a fast speed and maintain thar accuracy boost reduces your chance of being hit. Fast moving ships are harder to hit.

  • @acolytes-of-cthulhu
    @acolytes-of-cthulhu 16 дней назад

    what is the music in the background

  • @KG-1
    @KG-1 Год назад

    I go anti-torp 2 for the pumping capacity boost.

    • @damackabet.4611
      @damackabet.4611 Год назад

      I usually take anti torpedoes one on big ships can't reasonable afford taking higher usually.

  • @Galdenberry_Lamphuck
    @Galdenberry_Lamphuck 8 месяцев назад

    So an experimental Battleship with 5 twin 9 inch mark 2s is not viable? Big sad

  • @tomarmadiyer2698
    @tomarmadiyer2698 8 месяцев назад

    Mk 1 guns are effective when your target is land.

  • @glauberglousger6643
    @glauberglousger6643 Год назад +1

    Alternatively you could use one of the many methods to build a cheese ship
    Although that makes the game really boring

  • @wntu4
    @wntu4 Год назад

    I wonder if anyone has put out a spreadsheet for this yet. This game is just begging for a good calculator.

  • @DerLoladin
    @DerLoladin Год назад

    By the way Stealth, at the very end you say that the Game is in Early Access. I don't believe thats the case anymore and it is now fully released, for better or worse.

    • @Stealth17Gaming
      @Stealth17Gaming  Год назад +1

      Back when I recorded the video I believe it was still early access.

    • @blademaster2390
      @blademaster2390 Год назад +1

      The game is still early access. According to the 1.1 update post, the devs are planning a full release in roughly 6 months, so sometime in June.

    • @DerLoladin
      @DerLoladin Год назад +1

      @@blademaster2390 Well, by definition it has released out of Early Access this Wednesday.

    • @bikes02
      @bikes02 Год назад +1

      @@DerLoladin Out of EA in name only, when it's bug free then I'll call it full release

    • @bikes02
      @bikes02 Год назад +1

      @@blademaster2390 It's full release now, what you are referring to is that the devs have said they will keep supporting the game for 6 months to fix any bugs which there are still many