I just did a clutch/fork replacement using your extremely helpful videos. I got it all back together and then proceeded to do the tcm relearn with the forscan. My windows pc is apparently junk and I wasn’t able to do anything with my apple laptop for this process either. I decided to see what would happen if I just drove it. Surprisingly it drives perfect. It drives and shifts amazingly. 🤷🏻♂️ This is obviously just my isolated situation. I did have the battery unhooked for close to a week. Not sure if that did anything to reset the tcm. Thank you for your videos.
So when it reports back the touchpoint values, all I've seen is "9 to 14 is good" and "6 or above is expected" Is higher better, or lower? A low number apparently suggests misassembly, but does high mean there's less clutch material remaining? I ended up with 13.5 for values -- that's either good or bad if normal wear increases or decreases the value
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles Ok so it's not based on wear, just the minor variances in machining/assembly? In theory, my value should stay mostly the same over the lifetime of that clutch/fork assembly?
Changed the tcm on my 2012 ford focus. Did the adaptive learn with forscan. Everything went great. It’s showing 11.64mm on clutch a and 12.56mm on clutch b. Is that good numbers. Thank you so much for the video
Thanks for the perfect video. I have 2015 Ford Fiesta 1.0 Ecoboost Powershift DPS6 as known as 6DCT250. I did the exactly same procedure you said and completed Adaptive Learning Successfully. I got 10.14 mm for Clutch A and 11.26 mm for Clutch B. do you think these are good values. Thank you so much for your perfect video and great explanation.
@BigBensCarsAndCycles thank you I performed the clutch adaptive learn and now i get a grinding noise while driving but not while raised up and accelerating I was thinking maybe the carrier bearing around the axle ? Ever run across something of the sort ?
Hello Ben, I had P073E in my Fiesta 2017, I trued to perform the re learning procedure with Forscan and was not able to complete it. I did it manually but at the end the P073E code returns and no reverse. I think it is the clutch, have you had similar experience with this code?
It means the tcm actuated reverse but couldn't synchronize it. That could be a bad tcm, damaged synchronizer, but if the b-clutch fork is seized then I'd start there as it may be confusing the tcm.
Thank you for the help! I put my old TCM back in and did the forscan resets with new actuators. Ive cleaned all ground and plan to replace with oem tcm because im sick of fighting the P0902 low voltage code. Without testing wires would you learn towards the TCM being bad? I already bought the Ford TCM so its going in tomorrow just wondering what you have found over the years
@@vagonstraponov6233 the battery box rubbed some wires just like the automatic trunk release wire rubbed thru and broke. I have taken the TCM in and out so many times and tried to save the original software platform but still there's no way to program this tcm. In reading thru the forum on forscan it appears some tcm can't be formatted but I could be wrong. I put the car to the side for now and fixed another broken car to drive at the moment I'm determined not to pay ford to program it for a problem they created at the moment but I might eventually cave it's been a waste of time so far
I keep failing at the “Initial clutch adjustment” no vibration. I did have a gps tracker from the lot when I bought it they removed but some wiring stayed I don’t know if that would cause it to fail
Yooo, does a bad clutch actuator cause the car not to start sometimes?? I have a code P0902, wondering if its the tcm because actuator b has been replaced before. I switched the actuators rn, waiting to see if the codes stay the same.
I have the paid version of FORScan, bought the OBDlink EX, downloaded the driver, updated the firmware and when I go to program the new TCM it tells me "the adapter doesn't have enough performance and there is a 50%+ chance programming will damage the module". ?????
I've never used forscan to program a tcm. I'll attach a link to another youtubers video who has. He mentioned getting the beta version of forscan that has more programming capabilities (possibly). You can also just have ford do it for you. ruclips.net/video/7m20901XR7c/видео.htmlsi=oM9g1_Nb-QS_QjRC
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles I successfully did the adaptive learn on a new TCM but as soon as I start driving, I loose communication with it (u0101). I'm guessing that it needs to be programmed.
I’m using an Autel device, it will stop at the Gear Command for Neutral state for both transmissions shaft. Idk why but what should do? It doesn’t say failure but it won’t continue with the test
Right after the TCM powers down I hear something turning on under the hood ( sounds like its coming from actuators). then instantly a notification that reads "service procedure has been interrupted" and I have to start over. anyone have any thoughts ?? please help!!!!
I did this process several times after replacing the clutch and the forks. Unfortunately, I get gear selection error everytime and the clutch adaptive learing is not complete. I am stuck here. I replaced the neutral safety switch but I still get the same error. Could it be bad tcm or clutch is still locked?
I am getting a clutch travel test error. I still have the original TCM, but all clutch components have been replaced. I made sure I did the reset for both actuators as well. Any idea what could be causing this?
P287A Clutch B stuck engaged. The vehicle does not go into reverse. I noticed when I first removed the actuators to test fork movement before replacing the clutch, that same error code was showing back then. I still have the original actuators. No check engine before this, but the vehicle was shuddering, and reverse was still working before I removed the actuators. Thank you for the quick response!
@@Crayf1sh you're welcome. That code sounds like a stuck clutch fork but if it changes to clutch A when swapping actuators around you know that's the problem
@@BigBensCarsAndCyclesSo I swapped the actuators and the same code is still present. I’m worried I may have broken the tab when using an impact with that tool used to move the forks up and down. I am thinking of taking it to the dealer to have them test the TCM. But I am worried that the TCM is not the issue. The fork is able to move up and down fairly easily, but there is some very slight clicks.
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles I will return later after the trans shop takes a look. What I do know is that this code appeared after I removed Actuator B and sprayed brake cleaner in there while spinning the fork lever with my impact driver. Just to be clear, the throw out bearing is different from the slave cylinder correct?
I was preforming the Clutch System Test on a 2015 Focus and it Passed the Clutch Teaching, it passed the Shift Drum Adaptive Learning but it froze on the •Gear Command for neutral state •Clutch Travel Test Unit A •Clutch Travel Test Unit B •Error Storage Deletion It froze on all 4 of them for about 20min and never passed what does that mean?
Since gear command for neutral is timing out, you may have broken shift drum stops. You can follow my diagnosis video for P287B diagnosis on a focus. Does the car move at all?
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles it does give me clutch fork B stuck. But I just did a full clutch job including slave cylinders, forks, and a new clutch. So in my mind if B is stuck, A should be stuck too.
You can get forscan lite on your phone if you don't have a laptop. But to answer your question, yes there's some on amazon that are sub 200 dollars but they may or may not work
Hi, it could be a problem with the clutch or forks, another possibility is a scan tool software issue. You can try a manual adaptive learn and see what happens ruclips.net/video/Y4bOk0CJZ8A/видео.html
If it's an oem Ford one, yes. Some aftermarket ones come preloaded. If you put the tcm in, and the engine starts (and no obvious programming fault codes), then it doesn't need programming, just a touch point learn
After replacing the clutch or tcm, this is done to learn the touch points of the clutch and provide smooth shifting quicker than if you let it learn by driving for a few weeks
Thanks for watching!
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I just did a clutch/fork replacement using your extremely helpful videos. I got it all back together and then proceeded to do the tcm relearn with the forscan. My windows pc is apparently junk and I wasn’t able to do anything with my apple laptop for this process either. I decided to see what would happen if I just drove it. Surprisingly it drives perfect. It drives and shifts amazingly. 🤷🏻♂️ This is obviously just my isolated situation. I did have the battery unhooked for close to a week. Not sure if that did anything to reset the tcm. Thank you for your videos.
I'm glad the videos helped you! Since your cars shifting well, I wouldn't worry about it. Happy driving!
Thanks, man. Forscan is awesome. It even has an oscilloscope built in.
Thanks, will do and report back.
So when it reports back the touchpoint values, all I've seen is "9 to 14 is good" and "6 or above is expected"
Is higher better, or lower? A low number apparently suggests misassembly, but does high mean there's less clutch material remaining?
I ended up with 13.5 for values -- that's either good or bad if normal wear increases or decreases the value
13.5 is perfectly fine. the differences in the range is from where the clutch and components were made
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles Ok so it's not based on wear, just the minor variances in machining/assembly? In theory, my value should stay mostly the same over the lifetime of that clutch/fork assembly?
Do you have a video on how to reprogram a new TCM?
Hi, yes but its with Ford IDS. Heres another channel who did a video on programming ruclips.net/video/7m20901XR7c/видео.htmlsi=oM9g1_Nb-QS_QjRC
Changed the tcm on my 2012 ford focus. Did the adaptive learn with forscan. Everything went great. It’s showing 11.64mm on clutch a and 12.56mm on clutch b. Is that good numbers. Thank you so much for the video
Sounds like perfectly fine numbers to me. Happy to help!
What version of forscan are you using. Keep the great videos coming thanks
I'm glad it was helpful. I'm using the laptop (windows) version and downloaded the latest version at the time of the video
Will this help my 2012 ford focus forks sticking or I still have to replace them 😢?
Still have to replace them unfortunately
Thanks for the perfect video. I have 2015 Ford Fiesta 1.0 Ecoboost Powershift DPS6 as known as 6DCT250. I did the exactly same procedure you said and completed Adaptive Learning Successfully. I got 10.14 mm for Clutch A and 11.26 mm for Clutch B. do you think these are good values. Thank you so much for your perfect video and great explanation.
I'm glad it helped! Yeah those are good numbers
Super helpful video if i do the relearn while jacked up or on the ground would it make a difference?
It is fine either way
@BigBensCarsAndCycles thank you I performed the clutch adaptive learn and now i get a grinding noise while driving but not while raised up and accelerating I was thinking maybe the carrier bearing around the axle ? Ever run across something of the sort ?
Hi Ben, thanks for your video. Can I do it for a better performance or has it any benefits to do it without replace any part?
It wouldn't hurt it. It can improve sluggish shifts when cold. Particularly a manual adaptive learn. (separate video)
What’s the discord ? I have a question regarding a sound when I start my car to see if y’all could help
discord.gg/snV6WdrG
Thank you brotha !
You're weclome!
Hello Ben, I had P073E in my Fiesta 2017, I trued to perform the re learning procedure with Forscan and was not able to complete it. I did it manually but at the end the P073E code returns and no reverse. I think it is the clutch, have you had similar experience with this code?
It means the tcm actuated reverse but couldn't synchronize it. That could be a bad tcm, damaged synchronizer, but if the b-clutch fork is seized then I'd start there as it may be confusing the tcm.
This work with a lightweight flywheel on fiesta st
Thank you for the help! I put my old TCM back in and did the forscan resets with new actuators. Ive cleaned all ground and plan to replace with oem tcm because im sick of fighting the P0902 low voltage code. Without testing wires would you learn towards the TCM being bad? I already bought the Ford TCM so its going in tomorrow just wondering what you have found over the years
Hey, yeah probably a bad tcm. Or the upper actuator
Found a rubbed thru wire or two behind the battery box today against the shock area the adventure continues....
@@andrebenoit8561 so how is it going, what did you learn brother?
@@vagonstraponov6233 the battery box rubbed some wires just like the automatic trunk release wire rubbed thru and broke. I have taken the TCM in and out so many times and tried to save the original software platform but still there's no way to program this tcm. In reading thru the forum on forscan it appears some tcm can't be formatted but I could be wrong. I put the car to the side for now and fixed another broken car to drive at the moment I'm determined not to pay ford to program it for a problem they created at the moment but I might eventually cave it's been a waste of time so far
about 6dtc450 same program forscan!!!
I keep failing at the “Initial clutch adjustment” no vibration. I did have a gps tracker from the lot when I bought it they removed but some wiring stayed I don’t know if that would cause it to fail
You can do a manual adaptive learn instead ruclips.net/video/4yCR8GEdgDo/видео.html
Yooo, does a bad clutch actuator cause the car not to start sometimes?? I have a code P0902, wondering if its the tcm because actuator b has been replaced before. I switched the actuators rn, waiting to see if the codes stay the same.
Yeah, that codes either a bad actuator or tcm
Replaced tcm after gears getting stuck in neutral. When I start it, it doesn’t move forward or back
Fault codes?
I have the paid version of FORScan, bought the OBDlink EX, downloaded the driver, updated the firmware and when I go to program the new TCM it tells me "the adapter doesn't have enough performance and there is a 50%+ chance programming will damage the module". ?????
I've never used forscan to program a tcm. I'll attach a link to another youtubers video who has. He mentioned getting the beta version of forscan that has more programming capabilities (possibly). You can also just have ford do it for you. ruclips.net/video/7m20901XR7c/видео.htmlsi=oM9g1_Nb-QS_QjRC
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles I successfully did the adaptive learn on a new TCM but as soon as I start driving, I loose communication with it (u0101). I'm guessing that it needs to be programmed.
Under the Connection tab (I think the gear icon) make sure the connection type is FTDI
@@xirabolt I was able to program the car with a Vgate vLinker FS, instead of the OBDLink EX that was recommended.
I’m using an Autel device, it will stop at the Gear Command for Neutral state for both transmissions shaft. Idk why but what should do? It doesn’t say failure but it won’t continue with the test
Failing at that step usually means the shift drum stop inside the case is sheared. It's easy to check, ruclips.net/video/-E-YTX7lFbQ/видео.html
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles the upper and lower clock gears rotate and come to a stop.
Same is true for the DPS6 Fiesta, folks. 😉
I changed the title, thanks for the heads up detroit!
😉@@BigBensCarsAndCycles
We are a rarer breed, I know.. 😄@@BigBensCarsAndCycles
Right after the TCM powers down I hear something turning on under the hood ( sounds like its coming from actuators). then instantly a notification that reads "service procedure has been interrupted" and I have to start over.
anyone have any thoughts ?? please help!!!!
Which tool do you used to connect the Focus with your laptop?
OBD Link EX (its on amazon)
I did this process several times after replacing the clutch and the forks. Unfortunately, I get gear selection error everytime and the clutch adaptive learing is not complete. I am stuck here. I replaced the neutral safety switch but I still get the same error. Could it be bad tcm or clutch is still locked?
Is it setting any codes? Will you try doing just the shift drum adaptive learn to see if it does that error too?
Shift drum is learned, no errors detected.
Is the clutch adaptive learn possible to do with the mobile app ?
I am not sure if forscan lite can do it. My guess is it should because it's not a big feature
I am getting a clutch travel test error. I still have the original TCM, but all clutch components have been replaced. I made sure I did the reset for both actuators as well. Any idea what could be causing this?
Any codes? You could do a manual adaptive learn and see if it'll set a code
P287A Clutch B stuck engaged. The vehicle does not go into reverse. I noticed when I first removed the actuators to test fork movement before replacing the clutch, that same error code was showing back then. I still have the original actuators. No check engine before this, but the vehicle was shuddering, and reverse was still working before I removed the actuators. Thank you for the quick response!
@@Crayf1sh you're welcome. That code sounds like a stuck clutch fork but if it changes to clutch A when swapping actuators around you know that's the problem
@@BigBensCarsAndCyclesSo I swapped the actuators and the same code is still present. I’m worried I may have broken the tab when using an impact with that tool used to move the forks up and down. I am thinking of taking it to the dealer to have them test the TCM. But I am worried that the TCM is not the issue. The fork is able to move up and down fairly easily, but there is some very slight clicks.
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles I will return later after the trans shop takes a look. What I do know is that this code appeared after I removed Actuator B and sprayed brake cleaner in there while spinning the fork lever with my impact driver. Just to be clear, the throw out bearing is different from the slave cylinder correct?
I was preforming the Clutch System Test on a 2015 Focus and it Passed the Clutch Teaching, it passed the Shift Drum Adaptive Learning but it froze on the
•Gear Command for neutral state
•Clutch Travel Test Unit A
•Clutch Travel Test Unit B
•Error Storage Deletion
It froze on all 4 of them for about 20min and never passed what does that mean?
Since gear command for neutral is timing out, you may have broken shift drum stops. You can follow my diagnosis video for P287B diagnosis on a focus. Does the car move at all?
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles it moves forward but it has no reverse, also have present P2837 and P287B
@@joeltorres1156it'll probably be a bad tcm. Free at the dealer until 2025. But if you want to follow my video for p287b diag you can
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles Thank you for the info I’ll check out your video first
@joeltorres1156 you're welcome ruclips.net/video/CYx0564ifdo/видео.html
I keep getting the error “Clutch Travel Test - ERR”. Do you know any reasoning for this or how to fix it? Thank you
Another note. Whenever I clear my dct and search for codes again it’s saying I have no errors in my TCM or PCM.
@@liljpg4740 with a clutch travel test failure i suspect a sticking clutch fork. what codes if any does it eventually set if you drive it?
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles it does give me clutch fork B stuck. But I just did a full clutch job including slave cylinders, forks, and a new clutch. So in my mind if B is stuck, A should be stuck too.
Are there any aftermarket scan tools that can perform a touch point learn on a DPS6 besides the For scan?
You can get forscan lite on your phone if you don't have a laptop. But to answer your question, yes there's some on amazon that are sub 200 dollars but they may or may not work
But if you want to spend some money, I've heard people have luck with Autel scan tools
ForScan is cheaper and better.
Can you link the ELM 327 cable that you had?
I hear a lot of folks swear by Autel units..can be pretty spendy... @@BigBensCarsAndCycles
Hey! I have got 3:66mm on clutch A? Why is that
Hi, it could be a problem with the clutch or forks, another possibility is a scan tool software issue. You can try a manual adaptive learn and see what happens ruclips.net/video/Y4bOk0CJZ8A/видео.html
Do you need to program a brand new TCM?
If it's an oem Ford one, yes. Some aftermarket ones come preloaded. If you put the tcm in, and the engine starts (and no obvious programming fault codes), then it doesn't need programming, just a touch point learn
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles @BigBensCarsAndCycles Do you know which aftermarket brand for the TCM would be a good one?
hi sir,do you know how to change the trip record by using forscan,help me please
L/100KM to KM/L
Sorry I don't. If you can't find anything, you can try Focccus to change it
could focccus can use on fiesta?
thank you so much
It’s really bothering me that I can’t register as a member of the forscan forum.😢😢😢
If I only replaced to clutch and not the tcm (the tcm is brand new) do I still need to do the adaptive learn?
Yes for the clutch touch point
@@BigBensCarsAndCycles just out of curiosity what would happen if I took it for a test drive without doing that
@@gabrielbalcer9224 it'll think you have the old clutch in, and so the clutch won't engage properly and may slip. But it's possible it'll learn
Thanks for showing this, but next time PLEASE close the door so that chime will go off. It was maddening to listen to that.
Will do. Apologies
Or even turn the lights of
I prefer Fords chime over all others today, funny enough. 😆
👍👍👍
I hope there will be a scan tool like this with a free software
why would one need to do this?
After replacing the clutch or tcm, this is done to learn the touch points of the clutch and provide smooth shifting quicker than if you let it learn by driving for a few weeks