Here's Why Kettlebell Sport SUCKS
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In this thought-provoking video, we delve into the nuanced perspective of the hardships faced by kettlebell sport athletes. From the highly technical nature of the sport, encompassing movements like Jerk, Long Cycle, and Snatch, to the varying approaches of different institutions, this exploration sheds light on the challenges within the kettlebell community.
The tribal dynamics within the kettlebell world, with notable figures like Pavel and Ivan Denisov, contribute to the unique and sometimes challenging environment these athletes navigate. Despite the dedication and skill required, kettlebell sport often struggles to capture mainstream attention, as it lacks the perceived 'sexiness' that attracts a wider audience.
Financial realities are also discussed, emphasizing that 99% of kettlebell athletes may not find lucrative opportunities in the sport. Additionally, the video touches on the curious trend that non-Russian athletes often find success only when Russian competitors are absent from the scene.
Join the conversation and gain valuable insights into the less-discussed aspects of kettlebell sport. Whether you're an athlete, fitness enthusiast, or curious observer, this video provides a fresh perspective on the challenges faced by those in the world of kettlebell sport.
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If you've ever wondered about the less glamorous side of kettlebell sport, this video is a must-watch! Don't miss out on this in-depth exploration of the realities faced by athletes in the kettlebell community.
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I have done all sorts of extreme workouts. KB long cycle is the Hardest single thing ever in my opinion... which is why a la David Goggins I do it. You deal with oxygen depletion and overall discomfort and fatigue. What the champions like Denis do is incredible at 32kgs
Thanks for your video! I am a Russian kb sportsman for myself, and for me, it's really fascinating to see a foreigners discussing our niche type of sport. I also agree 100% on your opinion. All the best!
I learn kettlebell on the internet, it took me 2 years to gather enough information and skills to perform 10*2*5 snatch set😀
I got to watch Denis Vasilev compete in person, and it was mesmerizing. Seeing a true professional in any activity perform is always awesome to see. Always great stuff Gregory! Love you outlook! All the best to you!
don't be lazy and do your 10 minute sets, gregory
LOL
@@lebe-starkyeah we saw Angie smash a 10 min LC set a couple of weeks ago like it was a walk in the park 💪🏻👑 you next 😁👊🏻
Agreed, stop trashing and start swinging
Outstanding outlook! I am exactly the same way. Kettlebell Sport, CrossFit, Ultra Marathon etc… are all test of mental and physical endurance, but ultimately not sustainable and hard on the body. I did CrossFit for many years and spent as much time a chiropractors and massage therapist as I did in the gym. Over training ruined my back. I stopped the torture type training, started kettlebell training and now I am the strongest I’ve ever been.
Could you talk about the amount of crossfit that you did, and what is the kettlebell program that you ended up with?
How is your strenght compares? Have you kept exercices from crossfit?
I did CrossFit probably an average of 5x per week. The only thing I took from it to cross over to KB training was maybe using the EMOM, Tabata etc..methods with KB’s. Because KB’s move in a much natural plane, my usable/functional strength increased tremendously. I don’t do Olympic lifts with BB’s anymore, but if I see one laying around sometimes, I’ll pick it up, perform the movement and low and behold it feels lighter and better than it ever did. Not going to absolute exhaustion and failure that CrossFit often requires has been a great benefit also. I’m 51 now and CrossFit generally is too risky and completely unnecessary for me now. Please don’t take this as shitting on CrossFit, but I feel it’s more of a competitive sport and not a lifelong sustainable fitness program. I absolutely admire those young athletes who compete in it.
I have been a long time trainer, Im a dormer Navy Spec-War Veteran, BJJ competitor etc... I love what you are putting out Lebe! Its true and you dont hold back when going against some of the KB OGs or the new trends. Anyone listening, trust this guy he really cares about health and fitness while keeping you injury free. I hope your channel explodes brother. It is very rare for someone on YT to tell the truth instead of just trying to get the most views.
You were in the Swiss navy?!
Appreciate the love, brother!
The theatrical persona of Gregory is charming and gives smiles.
Be well Gregory
I’ve been training with kettlebells for over 20 years, mostly hardstyle. Last year I spent a year training gs with Vasilev as my coach. After about 11 months I started dreading the workouts. I think besides full contact fighting gs is about the hardest thing a person can do physically and mentally. Long cycle for ten minutes for me was brutal. How anyone can do it 32kg is beyond my comprehension. I love watching it, but for me it was too much. I still use gs style but train for fun 😊
Thanks for your comment, you just made me think like I'm some kind of a superhuman haha 🤣🤣
@@NeatKibbles4 🤣🤣💪💪
What's gs?
@@stretch1807 gs stands for "girevoy sport", which is kettlebell sport, but on Russian language
10 minutes. In Russia they have kettlebell marathons where you go for 30 minutes of snatches or clean/jerk with a 35 lb kettlebell for men in snatch and double 35a for clean and jerk.
Arm Wrestling is similar to Kettlebell Sport. Niche sport.
That's true. I used to do snatch with a 30lb kb for 40 minutes couple of times when I was like 16 y.o. But 10 minutes of jerk/ long cycle with a heavy kbs is waaaay more difficult thing
I can do 30mins of snatch with a 20kg, I can do C&J for an hour straight, with a 20kg. I have yet to try jerk only, just cause I find the other two to be harder. 30min sets with a single bell are actually pretty enjoyable, kinda like a nice jog.
2hrs longcycle 2x16kg kettlebells. 634 reps unbroken. Proud of this record 💪
@@Indiana_stones that's crazy.......I did an hour of longcycle with 2 20kg bells, and hit 320 reps, and I was about to die at the end
"I play real sports. I'm not trying to be the best at exercising." -Kenny Powers
You'd best make exercise part of your regiment though, in order to minimize injury potential. Exercise for health must be sustainable long-term or it's not exercise. Sports participation is definitely not sustainable long-term, especially not without exercise training.
Kenny 'Fucking' Powers. Put some respect on his name.
The funny thing is he actually says "I play real sports. I try to be the best at exercising." At least in a RUclips reel with his best comments. lol
Haha, those 10-minute sets take you through a rollercoaster of emotions, especially jerk for me. I competed at the weekend with 20s, posted a 1-minute montage on my channel (rare post). Still learning the sport, enjoying the journey.
I assume you’re talking about the competition itself rather than the style, since your drop for the snatch (took me a long time of watching your videos and practice to get) is the sport snatch. The same with regard to jerk style. The difference is that your hybrid style uses more like a hinge rather than the pendulum. Finally, I could be wrong, but from my inexpert opinion, it seems like, other than the hinge, your style has grown more similar to sport over the past few years. Anyhow, thanks again for the great videos!
KB Sport is the only sport a true masochist could love - LC is 10 minutes of hell not trying to puke your lungs out!😛
Delivering that vid's title at the end of the "call" was priceless 🤣
Hey Gregory, good Video. It basically strenghtened my recent decision to stop doing kettlebellsport even if it was for a reason you unfortunately missed to mention.
It's hard on the body and I had the feeling that alkl those heavy jerks weren't that good for my spine and hips. I just started to feel stiff and less mobile. The exact opposite of what kettlebells can actually offer you and why I fell in love with them in the first place.
Maybe it's also just me getting older or bad sleeping habits, but either way I started dreading my coaches workouts and just felt stressed whenever I thought about time. On top of that I started with BJJ, and when doing some strength training in addition to this martial arts you are better off with other exercises than Long Cycle. BJJ made me turn away from GS and return to nice compound exercises with the kettlebell.
Thanks for sharing! 💪
So true. It's about the goals. Looking from different perspectives. After all, we're all humans. Don't judge. Discuss. Support. Understand. Thanks Gregory. Nice to hear about Krajewski. Greetings from Poland.
fedor fuglev is a great champion. any chance of an interview ?
I do my own version but not strictly like they do it, I rest in between and do a couple of sets to then move on to something else. You can get the benefits of endurance and conditioning but you don’t have to necessarily do the whole 1 minute rule like in competition.
It's a great video! Thank you for the insights! I believe there might be room for a different style of kettlebell competitions. I agree that current KB sports competitions are both physically demanding and can seem dull. It's truly a shame because this tool is highly versatile, offering dozens of ways to move it and compete with it. Perhaps it's time to create a new competition style that offers a wider variety of exercises, allowing for combinations of different exercises, etc.
Hahaha... Great video. You're great for the Kettlebell Community. This content serves as an introduction into Competition Style lifting while still being practical for most people.
I love long cycle. I do 4x3 min sets. 2 min rests.
not sure about 10 mins yet😮
Thanks for all you do to add value. I love that you try to give a balanced opinion on things, you weigh others opinions and do your research and report what you find, blended with your own experience. Keep doing what you do!
Oh and by the way. You are right! It sucks! In an awesome, brutal sort of way. I was an Olympic level wrestler and grappler and the ten minute snatch test is every bit as physically demanding, if not more than a wrestling match.
Thanks for sharing! 💪
Hi, I just recently got into KB‘s and your vids are a huge help. A question: what is your opinion on using 2 different weights for double-racked presses etc. e.g. 16kg & 20kg?
Cheers!
Im actually getting into Kettle Bell because of the sport . I find the world is very confusing, tho not just for sport but for kettlebells in general , you see diffrent schools of thought in kettlebells , like in basketball and anything else there is a set standard or a fundamental you learn but kettlebell doesnt have that .
Thanks for the intresting subject. My question is for the kettelbell sport community. Is kettelbell sport healthy on the long term? Are there any scientific researsch about the impact of various kettlebell training on the body and health?
For Bruce Lee, follow Jason Korol at Greenville Academy. He’s forgotten more stuff about Jeet Kune Do than anyone else knows.
I agree with everything you've mentioned - it will never be a mainstream thing. But kettlebell sport as the idea of the weight marathon sport is sooo freaking awesome - I don't care about who wins the competition, I care only about being better than previous me. That is what KB sport taught me - to go deeper, to not compete, to enjoy and give my all - deeper into feeling myself, understanding myself (as a soul and the body), tapping into states of mind that I never would otherwise - it's like a drug. It's a lifetime journey of developing yourself - every macro cycle towards some goal is something new, it's like a new chapter in your life - and also every 10 minute set (with any weight) is completely different journey. Also I think that kettlebell sport (in a modified version) it's a missing component of strength and conditioning of every combat sport - I would say that kettlebell and barbell (with olympic weightlifting techniques and some squats and deadlifts) are all you need in a gym for becoming a walking military tank, regardless of age.
By the way Gregory, I am being trained by Gregor Sobocan in Slovenia - I love watching your videos and I really appreciate your work, it is what world needs right now!
Love and peace, Ervin
Please say hello to Gregor from me! It was an honor to have him on our podcast!
You're killing these intros, Coach! 😆
LOL
Couldn't agree more 🙌🙌🙌 you are on point 🎯
Exercise is about sustainably challenging the 6 pillars of human movement, with intent and intensity: squat, hinge, push, pull, rotation/anti-rotation and locomotion in order to improve or maintain a high level of physicality. An exercise routine must improve and sustainably maintain strength, power, stamina, endurance, mobility, agility and cardio respiratory conditioning, this in order to be adaptable to any hardship that life can bring you. An exercise program can never lead to injury, it must make you less susceptible to injury. Exercising is about adaptability vs specificity.
Sports training on the other hand, is all about maximizing physical performance and acquiring a very specific skill set, in order to perform a given task most efficiently. Such training and practice is not sustainable long-term, it will easily lead to injury and health problems long-term. Sports training is about specificity, rather than adaptability.
Exercise will never lead you to be the strongest or fastest. You will never have the most endurance or sports specific skill set, but you will be most adaptable to any physical challenge.
Best and most objective comment on most of RUclips fitness!
Seeing some of the sports at the Olympics, I am really sad that kb sport is not there.
Kettlebell Sport is fantastic. You don't have to make it hurt, just enjoy the journey of learning the technique and GPP.
This reminds me of "You need to exercise, don't train" (Pavel). Showing the correct form but not forcing us into something uncomfortable. Every individual is different.
Also, it's hard to find a good kettlebell for the purpose. You can't just walk into any sports equipment store and buy it. I think a good kettlebell is like well-matched or bespoke clothes and shoes: it's not uncomfortable but it takes time for your body to adapt. And a good coach is like a good tailor. 😄
i love the 10min kb sport long cycle , even taking it well over 10 min
With about one year experience, I can tell it's addictive, and that sucks :). It took me some efforts to restructure last off-season long kettlebell training sessions to specialized short once, so I could get back time for my prime sports. Got better in all of those, and that sucks for training and racing mates who are not in KB yet. Oh, yes 10:26, that's why 10 mins EMOM is my choice over 10 mins non-stop :)
Your channel is addictive too, one time I got pissed off with seemingly unfair absolutism and unsubscribed just to re-subscribe and turn all notifications On :).
Thank you Coach!
I just love the exercise! You are correct about it being a sport. Most Americans aren’t even aware of kettlebell exercise! I only learned of it when one of my employees starting an exercise training program with Kettlebells!
What and most non Americans are? Lol
Thanks for the video.
The Way is the goal. Everybody has their own. Thanks for sharing yours😎💪😎
You got that right!
Kettlebell is not a sports tool, it has benefits on the "sports level" though. My experience is that it takes me deeper into the moment and into my body - kind of like meditation and yoga. After a training with a right shaped bell i feel harmony joy and peace - Caliesthetichs , CrossFit, Body Building, swimming etc dont give me that peaceful and positive state of mind.
You’re absolutely right 😂👍…but it « sucks » as much as it’s awesome 😉
True story LOL
Here we go! Another video by Gregory 'TMZ of Kettlebell' Dzemaili 🎉😂
Hope you enjoy!
I have to disagree a bit. I understand where you're coming from with your clients but there is some value in training GS. I'm no Steve Cotter or Valery Federenko, but everyone needs a template to follow. Although I am not an elite kettlebell athlete, I have followed protocols for elite athletes and have made progress even though I have to scale back on the workload because I am not at that level. So it does work. I'm not saying it is the only way but it does yield results.
Kettlebell Sport training is good for the Sport. You can achieve awesome results with way less volume.
I know, it’s only R’n’R, but I like it!!
You know what would be awesome? If you interviewed Jamie Lewis from plague of strength
I hate kettlebell sport, that's why I love it. :D
Kettlebells are like watching curling or cricket - not interesting. They are the only weight lifting element I include with my yoga practice - absolutely love them.
Did you buy Art of expressing the human body by Bruce? If so what did you think of isometrics?
Bought a couple of books recently. They haven't arrived yet.
This is what I like so much about your channel.
Your approach is fundamental and academically deep. But you are not prisoner of an idea like hardstyle, RKC or kettlebell sport.
Moreover, you try to create a new hybrid technic absorbing benefits of both.
You are doing great job I watched RUclips a lot in the kettlebell niche you are N1 without any doubts.
But, you are right kettlebells in general boring.
Even you are revolving around 10 exercises .It is not like calisthenics with 100 progressions,
My question what do you think about training with sandbag one more very useful but not popular topic in fitness?
Seems like good and real thins are boring)
Appreciate the love, brother!
Go team hybrid!
More of this!
Great Video
But we love it so😂
🤣🤣 the intro
LOL
*Here's why kettlebell sport sucks*
"Wait a sec, I know that already, nevermind. Let this guy tell me AGAIN why it sucks and make it even more painful experience. "
Yeah, thanks LS, I guess.
lol
My PR in biathlon is 57 jerks and 58/2 snatches. I received the title of Candidate for Master of Sports.
1 minute into the video and I still don't know what it's about, damn you ramble a lot.
Kettlebell sport sucks life energy out of you. Completely.
Agree 100%. I did a year of it and it was brutal.
Lebe stark,just stick to bs videos like this because you aint even a patch on the strength of which these guys have.
Did you even watch the video or simply got triggered by the title? 💀
finally.
:-)
love kettlebell sport exercises yes but not paying for so called "coaches " $100/hr for their expertise and its tribal mentality.
There are very good ones out there, friend.
It sucks cuz you are doin it wrong...this guy has no clue
If you are going to criticize, then please explain. Otherwise you’re just being rude.
it sexy to watch!))))