What Made SKATE Special?
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Intro: 0:00
Laying The Groundwork: 1:02
The Expression: 9:07
The Best Part: 9:57
The Expression: 11:19
The Rebellion: 25:52
The Utopia: 39:22
The Future: 1:01:11
Post-Script: 1:05:12
Created by: That Boy Aqua
Skate is by far one of the most popular skating simulators of its time and even to this day. Is it the best skating game? I’d say yes, but the Tony Hawk series and the recent rise of both Session and Skater XL make that question worthy of a full video in itself. It’s a difficult comparison too because while Tony Hawk had an arcade approach to romanticised skateboarding, EA’s Skate series initially nailed an identity in grounded realism. After releasing Skate to generally favourable reviews, many sequels and spin-offs were created and released within a few years. EA and BlackBox had struck gold, and it was clear that there was, and still is an audience for this kind of game, as the current development of Skate 4 would have you believe. The Skate series, despite having such short development times for their many entries, went through a metamorphosis that many games couldn’t dream of… so let’s talk about it.
Of course, the defining feature of skate, is its flickit control scheme which sees the player flicking their control stick in specific directions to perform tricks. These controls are intuitive and make sense when compared to real life. An ollie simply sees you pulling the stick down, and up. But a kickflip or heelflip sees you pulling it down and up but slightly to the side. Meanwhile a shuvit will require you to curve the stick from 6 o'clock to 3 o clock. By the way, the clock lingo is just an easy way of explaining where your thumb needs to go. You’ll notice when viewing the trick book in the first skate game, it shows the direction to flick the stick, but it also has notches all around the circle, representing the stick, that look clocklike, hence the jargon. Everything in the game starts with either a kickflip, ollie, or shuvit. Every trick is built upon or around those three starters, so if you can master those, then anything is possible.
This is a Skate series retrospective. This Skate Retrospective will focus on skate but feature a Tony Hawk retrospective lens for comparison sake. These comparisons are not meant to determine each other's value but to highlight just how fundamentally different they are. this will feature Skate Review, Skate 2 Review, Skate 3 Review, and is essentially a Skate Years Later video. This video will answer what Skate game is the best, but the best Skate game may change with the release of Skate 4. If this video does well, I will likely make a Skate 4 review or a Skate 2022 video. Either way, enjoy this Skate Critique and Skate Analysis, which I believe is the best skate game. An obvious commission here was discussing Skate vs Session and Skate vs skater xl. I understand that those are relevant topics, but discussing what the best Skate simulator is is a video in itself. Thanks to Radrat video for joining me. I loved working with RadRat, and I highly recommend the RadRat Skate videos. Skate is the best skateboarding game, and if the skate alpha is any indicator, the skate reboot could continue that legacy. 
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i would like to request a retrospective on the dead island franchise , especially because dead island 2 was just announced for feb 3rd. perfect time to make one!
hey aqua I wonder if you know about that secret spot at 38:48 literally 30 feet infront of you as there is something conveniently placed behind that car
honestly in the next Skate they better make that fact canon they better make it canon that you died
"ea skate series has nailed an identity in grounded realism" right afterward he shows us footage of a skeleton skateboarding
@August Enthoven H A L L O F M E A T
Dem bonez
Still better than th games
Today class we’ll be learning about sarcasm.
Body shaming smh
It was nice working with you on this! I love how it turned out.
I've been subbed to your channel for a while and have been watching you a lot lately. I was recommended this video because of your channel. Thanks!
We love you ChadRat
yo i watched all of your skate reviews years ago, its funny that you were in this video because i totally forgot about your videos on this series
Aye! Good to see you're still around! I haven't watched a video in a good minute, but I'm definitely gonna have to!
Love what you’re talking about with the filming aspect. I noticed skate 1 right away felt just like it did for me when I was skating with my friends. I was always the camera man 😅
Mentioning the 360 flip challenge with Big Black made me sub to you immediately. That's my #1 core memory with the Skate series. Me, my bro, and my 3 cousins took turns trying to get that mission done while watching Total Drama Island 😭. The adolescence was immaculate, and I'll never have that feeling again.
It took us at least 45 minutes.
Bro why did you have to make this comment a whole ass time capsule by mentioning TDI 😭🤣
You gonna blow him too bro
Your last part actually made me realize something. I legit don't remember the last time a multiplayer game released with a fully integrated map editor that people could create and play their own maps.
Mario Maker 2? Halo Reach??
That seems like a thing publishers shut down because it's too much free content to give costumers they can't monetize. That's crazy and sad at the same time.
Man skating seems to be picking up again atleast in the gaming section and RUclips videos. Picked up my first skateboard a week ago and I love it as it was my childhood dream. Thanks for making this videos I'm sure it will be a good watch.
Keep it up bro, skating is an amazing hobby, been doing it 5 years now 3 broken bones later still going strong 🤙
I stoped skating because injuries and close calls with death, be careful bro, it’s an insane passion that can take everything from you in a single second
Fantastic video! Skate series has been and will be my favourite skateboarding game of all time. I have not stopped played it since I got into the series 12 years ago. I dont think I will stop at all.
Ayo bois I'm not gonna lie Aqua absolutely cooked me when we were getting footage for this but he was nice enough not to do me dirty in the video. My mans cracked on the sticks
Aye it's ya boi voiy.
Love your channel 😍
Having trouble with Robs tre flip crook is so relatable. For me that was the challenge that took me from struggling at the game to mastering it. I practiced that tre flip for days. After that the game and all its tricks just made perfect sense to me. I think skater xl and session are cool and great but skate will always be my preferred control scheme and style.
my favorite is the first one, its the hole reason i love skateboarding as a hobby, sport and way of expression. i think the best song choice for the franchise was express yourself by nwa. it is exactly what skating is, a form of expression when people around us didn't care to understand us or where to busy to try. a community of crazy bros with a plank of wood and wheels seeing what lines they can make is one of the most relaxing nirvana feelings you can have as a spectator and a thrill ride unlike any other if your on the board. all in all loved the vid been here since day almost one and im patently excited for the next vid.
The best thing about the skate games was that you could try to make it as realistic looking as possible. The satisfaction of placing a bench somewhere and doing a simple kick flip to manual to shove-it or something was so refreshing compared to the ridiculous tricks you’d do in tony hawks.
This video COMPLETELY took me by surprise. Like most fans, I got into your videos from your excellent breakdown of the Arkham series and have been subbed to you ever since. So, when I saw that you were covering Skate of all series, I was so extremely excited to see what you had to say. Skate 3 is one of those games that took over my childhood for a time. I can remember playing it, finding out how to break, discovering funny glitches, and just destroying my character in the Hall of Meat. I met so many friends that, at the time, were some of the closest people in my life through this game. Thank you for going back and covering this! Tremendous work!
No way!! Skate was literally the beginning of my entire RUclips channel and it has such a special place in my heart. I never expected you to cover this, but this video is like a dream come true! Thank you Aqua
man, when you brought up "Can you spell GIRL" you sent shivers down my spine! That mission turned my hair gray. Skate 2 to me remains the best of the series, the perfect balance, (in my opinion) the best aesthetic, a good amount of progression that felt natural, and just endless possibilities to have fun. Great memories, good video.
This is one of the best reviews of the series I've seen.
Only thing I can really say is that you can't really comment on adidas encouraging to buy their shoes being intrusive then pitch your sponsor. They both are there for the same reason. It's a partnership you respect, and they're both mutually beneficial. I feel content creators have a tendency to forget that game developers take on sponsors for the same reasons content creators do.
Again this is a really really good review. I really loved all your points.
As someone who was obsessed with skateboarding at the time this came out, this game was everything. I loved the Tony hawk games when I was younger, but once I was actually skating myself, they were a lot harder to play. Most days were playing this, going outside skating and trying the stuff in the game and repeating that every hour. We usually played a bit more grounded than what was even possible in the game because we tried recreate stuff we could do, or trying something new and replay in slomo so we could try to do it ourselves. It was so awesome getting to play against real life skaters that I looked up to and getting to see them around the city.
My favorit youtuber making a video on my favorit game series and it runs an hour
skate 3 has gotta be one of the best games ive ever played. so many memories made and so many bails off my board on hall of meat that i may never experience, but hey, the good thing is that i experienced it in the first place
1:02:17 - Beautiful use of the Mac Miller 'Congratulations' instrumental 💜😭
Great video. Wish you pointed out how fun it is to get off your board and hit people with either throwing the board or with the punch emote in Skate 3. I used to spend hours doing that then skating away when people got mad. It was kinda my GTA as I couldn't play GTA as a kid. Also attaching to cars to build speed was so much fun. Yeah Skate 3 will always be my favorite, it's just so goofy but also rewarding with its systems.
WAKE UP BABE, NEW AQUA VIDEO
I had a dream of a skating game produced by rockstar games with their physics engine. It could be amazing
The closest thing you have is a skate in Bully
Thrasher Skate and Destroy for the PS1 is the closest we got with a Rockstar published skate game.
Fun Fact: Miracle Whip has always been the name of the trick before even Skate 3
I love watching your long form essays
The ragdoll physics👌
Been skating 5 years now broke my arm recently doing it, this video made me play the games again and they always give me the confidence to go out again, thank you
The algorithm goes full circle and I now see your thoughts on the franchise. Excellent video!
Skate series was also my childhood, countless hours playing all of them, making new friends and socializing. With the new skate. i too hope they don't completely screw it up. Amazing video, something I've enjoyed in a long time on RUclips. Bravo!
Best video ever. I've been watching you for years. Never thought you would have such a passion for skating even as a spectator. You did this game justice and I'm impressed more so than usual
this video was amazing, it echoes feelings I couldn't have expressed for myself, but were ingrained in my very soul. I applaud you for this video! hats off to you
Amazing run down of my favorite series. I haven't played it for years and seeing so much brought back a lot of good memories. Bravo!
I didn't think I'd watch a 1 hour video from a guy I've basically never watched before but man, this was great.
If any of your other videos are nearly as good as this, you definitely got a new sub lol
I've never been a fan of Skate but hearing your passion behind it I may give it a try. As always awesome video man
I have literally been making this video for my own channel for months and haven't perfected it so seeing it on your channel is both saddening but also makes me happy knowing that when I release it there will be an audience. I still play Skate 1 and 3 all the time and love them so much. 2 is great I just don't have it on my xbox right now lol
Started this when the video came out, and finally finished it. And man, it is so crazy going back through and watching things for these games. I got a demo for the first THPS when I was 8 years old. It had one level and two songs, and I would play it with my brother for 2-3 hours. Just the one level. Played every skating game I could get my hands on since then.
But none of them really hit me as hard since then till Skate. Now I'm addicted to Session. But I will always look back on these games as being some of my favorite games of all time. I actually play a decent amount of games using emulators on my phone, and these games are one of the main reasons I want a PS3 or 360 emulator. Being able to just play these on my phone would be fucking awesome.
Like even when people talk about which is the best, I always find it hard to decide. I think they all excelled in different ways. You mentioned in the videos the different feelings in the map, and I absolutely love both styles. Yes, the 3rd game looks more built around skating, which makes it great and easy to find spots, but I also love the more realistic feeling of the first two. The 3rd has the hard-core mode, but the first still felt a bit more realistic in scope, but it was also a hit janky at moments.
And finally, I feel exactly the same about Skate4. I have Session, but I would still love a new Skate game for some more causal fun. Especially if they bring back the create a park aspect... but yeah. It's EA. I don't care quite as much if it's just cosmetics stuff, as long as some things can be unlocked for free. I feel like in most games the paid stuff is a bit over the top for me anyways. But I do fear it's gonna go beyond that. It's gonna be things like parts to build your park. And not even just crazy cool things, but even some basic stuff. I doubt they would do tricks if we were talking about this when it was announced, even though I joked about it. But with the shit some games are doing now? I would not be surprised at all. I'm basically just in a "We will see how it turns out" mentality. I'm not gonna get myself excited only to be let down.
The Rob Dyrdek treflip challenge roadblocked me as a young lad too, hahahah.
The Skate series is so good that I’m not even a skater and I spent hours playing every Skate game growing up.
I love that you included the theory of you being in Skater Heaven in Skate 3
Brillant video! i remember when i was young and played skate 3 and just- fucked around, so much fun, its nice seeing someone talking about not only 3 but the series as a whole-
Saucesome video as always man! Always a treat to listen to you talk about a game you're passionate about while I'm working! Can't wait for the next vid.
Man I love these videos!
I really think it shows in the video wether you made the video for you or not. I really liked this video talking about a game series you essentially grew up with. PLEASE DO THAT MORE I understand that you have to make videos that have some level of mass appeal to grow the channel, but every once in a while, please remember there are fans like me who love the videos you love to make. Hope you're still keeping up with comments on this video.
All the love, bye!
This absolutely was a passion project for me and I’m so happy you can see that from the video. I try to pepper in these passion projects as much as possible, but do note that every video I put out is made from passion. It’s just some topics don’t do well in the algorithm, so I can’t cover everything that I love all at once. Thanks for the kind words and for making my day, sending love back ♥️
I'm only 5 minutes into the video, but another core memory of mine was trying to do a challenge for P-Rod on either 1 or 2. I believe I had to do a 360 flip to grind down a stair set. Took me ages, just like the Big Black 360 flip. Good times man
The ending talking about how your parents didn’t let you skate really resonated with me. I was never allowed to either and by the time I could I had too much other responsibilities and now I’m married with a kid and breaking an arm or leg would put them in jeopardy because I would miss work. Growing up fucking sucks
>Wake up
>New That Boy Aqua video
>It's about the SKATE SERIES
awwwwwwwwww yeah!
Thank you for making this video. Because of it I tried out skate 3 for the first time and I'm loving it. One of my top games of all time
Skate is the greatest game of all time for me. So many memories as a teenager playing all 3 games after irl skating with my buddies, starter smoking weed and could just blaze one and play for hours. I still play skate 3 sometimes, all these years later. Special place in my heart for this game.
Edit: skate makes me miss my old friends now tbh
About Skate 2's performance, if you disable VSYNC through video settings, the game ends up feeling a lot smoother because it doesn't keep jumping between 60 and 30fps all the time. It still does not run as smooth as 3, and you end up with some screen tearing but its a big improvement in my opinion.
Also you can switch between "dynamic" music and just the normal music player in the settings to alleviate the problem of the game being silent too often.
Great retrospective video
Nice mac Miller instrumental when you started talking about skate 3 lol
37:02 actually, you can enable music playing all the time! it's a weird thing that it's automatically disabled, and you have to search the settings for it but it's there. sorta like how you can enable the high camera in skate 2, but the game never tells you about it. it's extremely hidden for no reason and my brother who had been playing the game for around 10 years didn't know about it till he bet me i was wrong.
This series means a lot to me as well. Algo did well today, exceptional video!
iii love that so many of the instrumentals in this video are from Mac miller songs
Black Box really was EA's golden goose. Sad that they're gone, since they created a bulk of my childhood for a long time.
Also.... Side tangent. Is that the remix of Hydrant Game at 23:25?
Yes :)
Great video, when I was young I had skate 1 for my xbox 360 but never got far into it but then I picked up skate 3 and absolutely adored it, I wish they had pc ports so I could keep playing them. I'm also scared about what EA might do to the reboot by making it free to play, someone I used to be friends with tried saying it was a good thing that it was going free to play because more people will be able to get into it which is could and all but that wouldn't make up for any microtransactions or battle passes that they might add. Even if the game is littered with them though it probably won't stop me from playing it 😂
One of my favorite video game series of all time right behind saints row 2
Also for anyone that has only played skate 3 I HIGHLY encourage playing the first one. It really made me feel immersed in skating from gathering sponsors to setting up sample tapes to just creating lines, and performing coffins down lengthy steep hills. The story, and gameplay of the first skate still holds up in my opinion.
I also encourage skate 2, but it can be difficult to acquire if you aren't emulating.
Bruh the mac instrumentals are a nice touch.
Very enjoyable watch, I love a good long video essay on games I love and grew up with
First experience with Skate was the demo. 30 mins in the first park, my buddy and I would take turns just starting it up again and again. We were broke ass teens so getting an actual copy took a while, but when we did we played it non-stop for ages. It was up against Call of Duty and Halo, and all we wanted to play was Skate. Also nice choice using Catherine - R30's Melancholy for the music during the Skate 3 you are dead creepypasta theory bit.
This breakdown of my favorite childhood game is amazing thank you so much for talking about it. Now I'm just hoping the new skate will be just as good but that is a hard goal to hit because of nostalgia but one can still hope
I still love that in the wii spin off skate it. You play in san van again but after the earthquake between skate 1 and 2 so they didn't have to use any npcs because it had all been evacuated
13:25 "doesn't feel like it's built for skating"...."if you go over to the mega park"
ill say it and say it again and again. no game will ever do what skate did. i still love it to this day. it was replayable on any level at any time. just being able to turn it on and throw down some sick lines was amazing. reminds me of the best times of my life so its always a good memory. ill always love this game
I only played skate 3 so curious to see what the older ones were like.
recommend going back and playing at lest skate 2 but one still has its charm and its simplicity is more of a benefit then a flaw
Skate 2 is an absolute masterpiece. Skate 1 hits different from a nostalgic state tho
Good days of trying to Hippie Flip and failing 💯 times just to get excited when i got it. Goodbye Horses is a repetitive banger 🔥🔥🔥
Liked the video as soon as I heard the Best Day Ever instrumental
I've been playing session for a week now. Once you get the feel for it. It's hands down the best skate game. Chef's kiss
I was mostly poor as a kid. I would get so hype when my cousins came over for sleepovers because they always had the latest hardware and games, so they were like my gateway to games I could only dream of. My sister and I grew up on THAW or American Wasteland. Local multiplayer on a ageing CRTV with Green Day blastin while we either played co-op or took turns in story mode. My cousins was the first time I was introduced to Skate---a realistic alternative to the awesome drug-trip and "F-You Physics" of the Tony Hawk games. Yet... somehow it had its own level of immersive fun. Every trick felt like an actual accomplishment.
Love the Vids Man! Keep this swag flowing! :)
The Mac miller instrumental @ the 15:32 mark really had me tearing up 🖤💜
Scrolled for this comment. Heard various mac instrumentals throughout
@@fuckgoogle3335 what song is the one from 42:00 one from?
The FS Goofy Salad Grind going down a rail in skate (2007) is so satisfying!!! Oh and the art gallery behind the park is not original to skate (2007) (wish it was) just checked it out this morning in 2007 skate and it not but love you videos!!!
Oh snap, finally Thrasher Skate & Destroy got a mention! I really love that game as a kid. It was indeed more realistic compared to THPS as it also has a health bar that if depleted, your run ends. And it also has the time limit when depleted, depending on the location, the police will chase you and the POV will switch to theirs. I also love the physics of the game. I'd always get my skater bump into a subway train just to see him get juggled everywhere. But yeah, said game is hard especially at the end game. You really have to do every trick in the book for bonus variety points to pass the level.
a game of skate it was my fav real life skating hobby. it pushed your limits of what you could pull of
Watching this video then you played mac miller fucking took me back holy shit. Back to when me amd my brother would just play music on our cd boom box and just play with a "switch controllers after 3 bails rules" and just chilling. Good times. This video also reminded my when the skate 3 community was actually alive and they had the in game community share feature and I miss just eating junk food and scrolling through other people's spots
Edit: omg... Hearing skate. Will be a free to play game like almost entirely KILLED all excitement I've had, I still gonna get it the second it comes out and keep up with it, but the free to play moto really has me worried about this games future
Original skate is one of the all time greats for me. I liked the extra tricks in the sequels, but the world and "feel" of the first one is the best imo. The hillbomb and powerslide physics were the best in the original game imo. The skate 3 powerslides are kind of busted and you can't cruise down hills as well because of that. Great vid!
I fucking love this guy and his videos watching you talk about some of my literal childhood is TOO LEGIT
“Can You Spell Girl”
*Sons of fortune fades in*
I'm waiting to see the thumbnail change a few times.
I love the skate games man..great video..👌🏻👍🏻
Having rad rat in this idea was great! I love his channel
Is the song beginning @25:54 less than Jake : surrender? I'm so weirded out that I recognise it in that form lol.
Skate 3 is one of my most played games ever, clocking in at just under 900 hours total since it came out.
Appreciate the Mac background Music
50:40
The hall of mea is like literally one of the most famous aspects of the game
Loved skate 3 back in the day whenever I got done with school I would hop on and just shred!!!
I think for me what made this game special was it was just fun and satisfying to play, it’s crazy how simple it is, but how satisfying the gameplay loop actually was
INSANE that you got rad rat video on this he's awesome
I grew up playing games with my parents and have played them my whole life so while I have some nostalgia for games I feel like I'm missing out on the deeper feeling others like yourself have for games.
Yo did not expect a RadRat cameo, that's awesome
Yes! That Rob Dyrdek mission was so hard!
ive watched this 3 times now, its a great video
Not discussing what lies beyond the chain fences in Art Gallery is a crime! Glitching over them and exploring is fun! A bit depressing but nostalgic!
34:03
I know man... I had to do this twice 😂
i bought Skate 3 on a flee market since i liked Tony hawks pro skater 2 "back then" in PSX era and i liked it very much. it was cool, i couldn't do everything since some challenges were HARD as hell. Still it was a rewarding system with a little bit of "story" and you had something to do.
That's something i miss with the current "skate like" games like session. It's just a bland level were you can skate.... without any challenges or anything to do
This made me so nostalgic. On the original Skate I was #1 in the world on death races… I wish like hell I had a picture or screenshot of it. Back when my GT was Jarrod77
Ea skate is what got me into skating and I think the skate series is still the best skateboarding 2 with skate 2 being the best one
Yeeessss a Skate retrospective 😍
I heard BDE instrumental by Mac Miller in the background lol how did you get that without a copyright
W for mentioning session and xl
Although I share some of your worries, I think skate is perfectly suited for other kinds of monetisation too. Corporations like EA has indeed found out that in total, people spend more money on expressing themselves than they spend on player-separating things like unlocking maps and different missions.
I think Skate has much of the same potential as apps like Snapchat, where it's not the user who pays for cosmetics, but the brands who do. Because of how software iteratively develops these days and how everything can be easily connected to real life dynamic data. I also think it's easier to connect game to real life events and locations.
Of course with a lot of brands so interconnected to the game, there is a higher risk of them pushing things like intrusive ads but I'd happily pay a certain sum to avoid that if that's all I need to pay.
In general, I think a cross-platform game without player-separating mechanics will overweigh slightly shitty monetisation practices in the long term, but of course that depends of how shitty.
Skate 4 devs should watch this
Bonus points for the Japanese hiphop instrumentals