9 Damning Pieces of Evidence Against Alec Baldwin Armorer in ‘Rust’ Movie Shooting Trial
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Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, the young woman in charge of guns and ammo on the New Mexico set for the film “Rust,” is accused of negligence and evidence tampering. Actor Alec Baldwin was holding a prop gun loaded with a live round when the gun went off, killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins. Law&Crime’s Jesse Weber breaks down the most incriminating evidence the prosecution presented against the armorer.
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Cocaine on the set is the first clue!
I know someone who worked for a prop company. He was also a gun dealer and gun expert. He was the armorer on a few movies and he said he was the only person that touches the guns, he loads the guns, hands them to the actors right before the scene, and takes them back after the scene or scenes. He stays with the guns the entire time they are used. He locked up the guns after hours and kept possession of them. He told me this long before this shooting so it is likely that this is standard way an armorer handles movie guns. He made sure the guns were safe and knew full well that he was responsible. These people hired an unqualified kid as a favor to her hot-shot father.
"Where did you train for this job?"
"My daddy taught me."
Not well, it would seem.
I read that most of the people that become armorers are ex military or ex police
People who are well trained
I think that they were trying to save a buck
Very sad...😢
We have all heard & read about the rules since, it's so tragic, but also grossly negible, I agree.
@@wanderingsethYou don’t value what you get when it comes easy. That said, others need to pay for their neglect. Especially given a whole crew walked off that day.
One could also say "she was personally trained by the best armorer in the business."
Why on Earth would there ever be LIVE rounds on a movie set?!
They were shooting between takes. That's why.
Why were there guns on the set ??? No matter what..... when you point / aim a gun at anyone........you intend to shoot them !!!! Baldwin is responsible 100% ! As a child I was out pheasant hunting.. I climbed over a fence and for only a breif moment pointed my shot gun at / toward my dad. He leveled me on the spot....and kept walking. I got the " POINT " !!
Unless it’s intentional
@@allaboutroofing2there shouldn't ever be live rounds on a movie set.
Making a movie isn't target shooting or shooting for fun.
@@user-tc3ou6sy5fmaybe because people want to watch them type of movies. Hollywood has always used them. They should not ever have live rounds on a set. This is what happens when there's improper handling a gun. My kids got their 1st guns at age 5. They grew up with guns and learned respect for the weapons when not in use they were in a gun safe.
I love how they cleaned her up from a hippie tree hugger to librarian
More like a emo punk.
@@josephwirtz7120 yes agreed …
Miss Piggy still looked trashy in court, despite her best efforts. She chose to wear a wet-look PVC skirt today, for the judge's sentencing! It would look more at home in an S&M club. Utterly clueless.
The woman is bizarrely immature - 26, going on 14. This was confirmed time and time again by different witnesses, Guitterez was deeply unpopular on the set, and totally unsuited to such a responsible professional career. I feel whoever hired her should also be held accountable.
People grow up and change their look all the time. Her look from 2.-1/2 years ago vs. today could reflect any person making a normal change for normal reasons. If she had maintained the colored hair and rugged clothing everyone here would be making disparaging comments. So she changed her look and the disparaging comments are here anyway.
Pride and prejudice Cast
Still don't understand how the armorer wasn't charged in the Crow shooting of Brandon Lee. It was pure negligence as well...
He was sent home. The studio cut corners and handed the gun over to the prop man. That's why it happened. Michael Berryman told that story.
Agreed! If that armor had been tried, the industry may have learned a lesson. The killings will continue until there is personal risk for negligence.
I agree it was negligence
@@user-mg6in9cq9e I already said the Armourer on that shoot was dismissed. This is a fact. Or did no one read my previous post. He wasn't charged with any offence because he wasn't there.
Why don't you read up on The Crow incident that you probably weren't alive for.
Love how she changed her entire look before the court met so she could look like someone who could possibly be taken seriously 🤣🤣
Right. Just another clueless irresponsible sjw but the government wants responsible owners to give up their guns.
0:25 Well, they definitely cleaned her up well for court. It makes you wonder why she chooses to look the way she normally does. Her demeanor in the interrogation room the day of the accident was appalling. Didn't care, didn't want to be there, kept picking her nose and wiping her nose on her sleeve while slouching in the chair with her legs spread like a man. She comes across as just really not giving a flying fck!
She was touching her nose because she was taking cocaine
@@JoBlo321It's a movie set in the middle of the desert with long working hours, I figure most of the crew is gonna look scruffy looking.
@@mathiasbartl903 they are on about her clown hair
ONE PIECE OF EVIDENCE. The armorer gave an actor a gun with live ammo.
GUILTY AS CHARGED.
IMHO
"My dad is one of the best armorers in the world and he taught me" Well, he clearly did an incredibly poor job of teaching.
Not necessarily, she could’ve just been a horrible student lol
If that is totally true. Then what a disrespect to her father father
Daddy may have "taught", but she didn't "learn".
Hiring this woman as a professional armorer was the actual crime in this case.
I bet they hired her like she was anyone trying to build a resume in the business, someone who would overwork with underpay and glad for the experience, while she thought she was being hired bc she was special and never really worked a day in her life
@@ernestinehayes176I don't think she overworked
@@stevefromsaskatoon830she certainly was easily bossed around. A professional would have put a muzzle and a leash on Baldwin as they cleared the weapons and then waited as Alec did exactly the same, while never flashing the barrel at any human being. He is finished.
The hair was kind of a dead give away.......
She was hired because her father was a well known armorer. Nepotism
Blah blah blah - live rounds have no business on a movie set, and much less in a prop gun; end of story. The armorer had to make sure that there was no live round in that gun, and it was completely safe, before handing it over to others. No excuses, either.
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She won't let other ppl rush her, nor allow live rounds on a movie set. It was impossible for her to run a safe set. Too many rounds, too many ppl, too many things going on, and a BAD PRODUCER/"ACTOR"
@@gdiup9241 what?
However, Sir, Baldwin should have double check the firearm. ANY ONE who knows anything about firearms, KNOWS TO DO THAT! Baldwin should also face charges!
@@enterprise59Baldwin go's to trial in July .
If she really thought someone else was sabotaging the bullets that would be even more reason to do her job well and check and lock everything down. The defense that it was someone else putting live rounds in to the set was bogus from the beginning.
Yep!
B I N G O
B I N G O
B I N G O
And Hannah was her name-o
It was desperate stuff - and in the absence of any evidence of sabotage , I'm amazed the defence were even allowed to mention it as a possibility. Thankfully the jury knew BS when they smelled it!
The job of the defense attorney, in this case, was to establish reasonable doubt in the minds of the jury. If I was her lawyer I would have stridently and repeatedly established the alternative possibility. That being that Dave Halls inserted the live rounds, he had opportunity. I would have linked that with Dave Halls placing those live rounds to make the armorer appear inattentive. I would have repeatedly emphasized how ridiculous Dave Halls's story was about checking only 3 of the 6 chambers. I would have emphasized, repeatedly, that it was the first time Dave Halls handed the gun to Alec.
The point is, Hannah's lawyer presented her as if she was guilty. That's not what a lawyer should be doing. His job is not to make her appear innocent but only to establish reasonable doubt. He failed miserably. Listening to Hannah's lawyer actually caused me emotional distress. He should do jail time for being so incompetent.
Perhaps the reason the word ' sabataging ' was mentioned. She was unexperienced and dealing with a control freak, Baldwin bossing people around.. time is money. Can't wait to see his trial.
She strikes me as the kind of person who wouldn't take responsibility no matter what the job much less when other people's safety is at stake.
Agreed, I've worked with her type behind the scenes in television. She's lazy, unreliable, constantly passes the buck, and nothing is ever her fault. I bet this criminal trial and Guilty verdict is the first time ever she's been held to account for her third-rate work and lousy attitude.
It's beyond tragic a woman had to die for the road to meet the rubber. For me, crimes like this committed by narcissistic criminals are a warning to parents - if you never say 'No' to your children or show them and consistently enforce boundaries for good behaviour, then someone else, somewhere down the line WILL. And you'd better hope that someone isn't a police officer or a judge.
This was the right verdict, her conduct was totally unprofessional - but what what added insult to injury was her blatant lack of emotion or remorse for the wife and mother who lost her life at just 42. I'm sure the jury noticed the amount of witnesses who spoke of Miss Gutierrez-Reed's primary worry for herself and her career, far above any concern for the late Halyna Hutchins' tragic death.
@@glamdolly30
When's the book coming out?
@@glamdolly30she was held to account when she gave her motorcycle keys to her boyfriend and his friend, when she knew they had 4-5 beers each and one died..that should have been a wake up call and the producers of Rust should have known about this when checking her out.
That was one year before the movie. Her insurance paid 50K to the family of the one who died.
@@debbiemartin2026 WOW! Crazy.
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Do Hannah's family ever think of the little boy who had to hear that his mom was killed and is NEVER COMING HOME !!!! These people are SICKENING !!!
Typical Hollywood vampires.
🙄
Just think- Hannah knows she is responsible.. yet accused other people.. ignored people that tried to help her, called the other coworker the c word… is recorded saying she f’d up. Yet we see ZERO remorse. Even Dave Hall fessed up to his negligence.
Hannah was thinking of the boy on set. Even wanted to give him some special training. That's the Hollywood weirdos for ya
NM DA say bye bye to film industry!
So some zoned out chick who probably hit her cart a bunch of times was in charge of a bunch of guns and treated them the opposite of how you’re supposed to handle a firearm?
It sounds like she is trying to blame the production team for them making her do your job.
“I had to train 3 people with the director standing behind me” - yea that’s your job!!
Quite
If a guy acted like this he would literally be laughed at.
Her credentials as an armorer are that she was trained by her father, and her father is one of the best in the business. WHAT? Sounds like amateur hour to me -- why did the producers hire her? I would not hire an unlicensed electrician to do work in my home just because his Dad is an electrician. Why aren't armorers trained, tested, and accredited?
He's not even Hannah Gutierrez-Reed's father - it's annoying that she keeps parroting this lie. 81-year-old armourer and stuntman Thell Reed is her STEPFATHER. Not the same thing at all.
But even if they were related,nepotism should play no part in hiring someone for such an incredibly responsible role with firearms. Every colleague who took the stand spoke of her lack of professionalism - she was deeply unpopular on the set. I imagine spending just one day observing her on the job would be enough to fire her.
@@glamdolly30her name isn’t even Reed at all, she just likes to go by Reed to trade on her stepfathers name.
I agree with you but man some of the best electricians I have known were unlicensed
"I feel like I never want to show my face in this industry again"....
Don't worry love, nobody in this industry is going to want to touch you with a barge pole after this. I don't think any industry is going to want her ...
The weight of a live round and a blank round is vast. Whoever loaded the gun would have known the difference if they knew a thing about loading.
Why did prop master throw away ammo. And why did she want immunity for testifying ?????
Please explain to us why the maximum sentence for her is 18 months. It seems ridiculous to me. Not to mention an insult to injury.
I agree
Because that is the maximum time the judge is legally allowed to sentence her. Every state is different.
18 months is disgusting! Who decides these sentence lengths?@@m.jaquarius8365
They were in New Mexico at the time. If they were filming in California, it would have been 4 years.
She couldn’t tell a live round from blanks?? and she is an armorer??
A firearms instructor will always tell you that a firearm is always loaded.
Never play with a firearm.
Never point a firearm at anyone.
A firearm is not a toy.
Firearms don't kill people, people do.
Baldwins playful little bit of comedy, after breaking every rule, killed an innocent woman.
It is the fault of the armorer. Not Alec. This is a movie set. There is not an expectation that the rounds are live rounds. The same thing happened on the set of The Crow where Brandon Lee passed away. The person who accidentally killed Brandon Lee passed away a while ago was never charged.
This isn't real life it's a movie set. The actors do not check the guns since they are not trained to do so that's why they are professionals on the set. If she hadn't have brought the live around and bothered to check the gun none of this would have happened. Let's not forget the ad who handed Baldwin a "cold" gun
Hunted for over 50 years. My dad drilled into me and my brother for years teo simple rules:
1. EVERY gun is loaded until YOU ensure it isn’t.
2. Never aim or allow the barrel of a weapon to point toward or at something you don’t intend to shoot. Know where your barrel is pointing 100% of the time.
He was relentless then as I am today in ensuring safety above everything else. These lessons are so ingrained in me that I’m always thinking about them when holding a weapon.
If every person would follow these two simple rules there would be a lot fewer tragedies.
@@STMARTIN009Rule 1 of firearm safety is to always verify a weapon when it is handed to you. Even today, every one I hunt or shoot with does this. Alec was negligent in this regard and pulled the trigger. He also, as Exec Producer, allowed chaos on the set. Now, a wife and mother is dead.
What I don't understand is why we are acting like Alec has never worked on a set with firearms before. Sounds like he was also sloppy.
If Baldwin isn't criminally responsible, he's culpable. He and his production company better get ready for a BIG civil suit
There has already been a settlement.
Too young for the position, no authority/ backbone, no control…and probably the lowest bidder for the position.
People don't 'bid' for crew positions.
Great point
and now she looks like a cast member from Pride and Prejudice.
Just a diversity hire for the sake of diversity, that's all. Be excited because all the major airlines are now doing the same thing
Her daddy 😮
GUILTY!!!! Historic verdict that armorers cant get away with willful negligence. Thank GOD. Had they concluded she was innocent, it would set a VERY dangerous precedent! Just because youre the daughter of a successful armorer sends a HUGE message that you cant get away with involuntary manslaughter because youre the daughter of a famous person. Hallelujah.
I haven't followed this case much , but who is her father ? What movies has he been a part of ? Thanks
Chill. She will be out in 18 months.
Alec Baldwin belongs in prison, hes disgusting piece of crap
During her police interview she said she could not imagine anyone tampering with bullets and that no one did she have problems with or something like that. Well the fact that she didn;t lock them up proves she did not think it was a problem.
This was all about the defense and her supporters playing the Woman Card, not nepotism. I'm glad wokeness didn't carry the day in America for ONCE, although I'm pretty sure a man would've gotten at least 5 years for manslaughter.
It’s crazy that live ammunition would be there!
She should have walked away from this job if she was overwhelmed. She has no excuse.
This is how she develops a resume to work on big budget movies, by working these low budget movies.
@@NICU_Guy she obviously was not qualified
What happened to her purple and yellow hair that she had while on set? I guess she doesn't feel like a rockstar anymore.
Cleaned up for trial
If you are under contract as an armorer and management attempts to make it impossible for you to provide your services in a safe manner, you walk and take ALL of your equipment with you. Period.
You try walking away from Alec freaking Baldwin in a situation like this.
Even if you make some big stink on Medium and name-and-shame Baldwin for his unsafe work environment, and even if public opinion supports your decision, walking away would mean shooting yourself in the foot as an armorer and never working in Hollywood again. It was a no-win situation, and it's unacceptable that two people had to get shot in order for this disaster of a set to be exposed. And what's worse is that these types of glaring safety violations are all too common in such a competitive industry. Both are guilty of Hutchins's death, and Baldwin is primarily to blame, both as a diva-producer and his criminal negligence as an actor.
Someone needs to investigate how law enforcement handled the investigation.
What a circus that was!
Did they check for tampering that wouldn't show up simply be looking at the gun?
The armourer looks absolutely clueless. Her demeanor doesn't inspire confidence she is capable and able to do her job.
Does anyone know her chronological age?
"Rust" should have been called "Rushed".
If its a real gun that shoots REAL BULLETS its NOT a PROP GUN lol
YES it is. Any gun used on a movie set is defined as a prop gun regardless of if it is a real gun loaded with live rounds or something else.
Prop guns ARE REAL GUNS
for me the verdict is sound, but I believe Halls, Zachary and Baldwin and Kenny all have cases to answer.
Hall pleaded No Contest and was sentenced to 3 years probation for not thoroughly checking the gun with Hannah.
Kenny bears no responsibility at all. Did you even watch the trial?🙄
Just an FYI for the person who made this video: The guy on the microphone is like 10 times louder than any other audio. It would be nice to not need to be constantly adjusting the volume.
Don't cry😭
When someone lies on there resume.
„That’s why you have an armourer on movie sets“ - makes complete sense. Nepotism leads to incompetence on the job, incompetence leads to tragedy.
She should have never been on that set ever
Her lawyer constantly having read laws off his phone not a good luck
Been in court, lately?
Talk about nepotism. This girl has no business in this profession
nepotism literally back firing
Why are there live bullets on a film set???
If Ms Gutierrez, was the armorer on the set, she did not need to “introduce” the live round into the revolver on the set, she merely had to exercise insufficient control over the property on the set to ALLOW the condition to occur.
I as a juror I would say “guilty” of negligence leading to the injury and death of another person, but due to all of the problems on the set, and prison term would be suspended, with 5 years of probation, and some kind of fine.
This is the same kind of chaotic “hurry-up” management that led to the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster. Thiolkol engineers wanted to delay the launch due to freezing weather on the pad, but NASA officials browbeat them until they withdrew their objections.
It's already been proven by the other crew members on the set that nobody was rushed
She killed someone, whether involuntary or not, someone died due to her negligence. Prison is more than appropriate and I would demand it as a prosecutor. I know a guy who got jumped at a bar and was defending himself, hit a dude so hard he knocked him out cold, when the dude fell he bust his head open and died due to the injury. The guy who was defending himself went to prison for involuntary manslaughter.
There were so many things going wrong here. Ultimately it was on the armorer, but if you’re an actor on a set, you should have known things were being mishandled. It is also important that you as an actor have outside weapons training… not just a credit for it on your resume.
Why does a movie set need live ammunition? Nuts. Surely after The Crow everyone knows the danger of blanks, let alone live rounds. Crazy
It doesnt no one claimed that it did.
The film of Baldwin showing him practicing his quickdraw in the church front and center shows his finger INSIDE the trigger guard. Enough said!
Poor little nepo baby
Learning new terminology on YT.
Yep
Well I think the industry learned that nepo baby armorers aren’t a good choice.
Maybe the industry will also learn that actors turned directors who want to cut corners on important safety measures are not safe to work with.
the look in her eyes the lack of emotion and remorse says to much if i accidently killed someone i would be frowning to death ! there is literally no emotion or remorse to be find in her eyes or her body language. its disgusting
She may have been in a state of shock, but even then, I feel I'm being kind, she must learn to accept that she was grossly negligent.
Or if we are being really cynical, we might presume that Alec Baldwin gave her some cash.
She might willing be setup by baldwin to take a fall
@@michellenorris8471 thank you for the Oscar for best actress? Are you suggesting Alec gave her a ton of money to give away her life in prison?
@@gianni_schicchi No, if he did, it would be to protect himself, we may never know.
Alec will be in the defense box in July 2024.
It was a gun, a real gun used as a prop. But it was a real gun.
The harshest gun laws in the country but somebody died on a movie set. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE LOL
She was a gun enthusiast. Lots of gun enthusiasts aren't very careful. There, it now makes sense.
@@dansanger5340 gun enthusiast circumventing the harshest gun laws in the country? Hmm maybe gun restrictions may not actually work!
We dont have the harshest gun laws
New Mexico has the harshest gun laws?
Not the first time this has happened. Brandon Lee died on the set of the movie The Crow due to a live round.
Even if Mr. Baldwin pulled the trigger, the armorer is solely responsible. Her job! If she couldn’t handle the job she shouldn’t have accepted. Other people seemed to have no problem quitting.
Shouldn't those responsible for hiring such a reckless/incompetent armourer also be held partly responsible?
@@creamdelacremeyou seem to have totally misunderstood their point. they’re saying the person who HIRED this incompetent woman should be held responsible regarding this entire mess……
She's a whole lot prettier in court than in the back of that patrol vehicle.
Doesn't even look like the same person lol.
She’s trying to hide her woke craziness before court to try and fool people she looks too innocent to do such thing
I just left a comment earlier that I'm sick of defendants getting a makeover/remodel of their usual hideous, sloppy, dark selves. It's complete BS.
Minus around 50lbs and blue and yellow hair. and not being high.
When it comes to court, she cleared up to make her look innocent. She and the group are left and have little to no common sense.
Wow she looks like a normal person without that green hair
Almost
Yeah, but who cares? Her hair color didn't have much to do with her negligence.
This was a cluster from the get go, and was set for disaster from the lack of professional management at the highest levels, causing a comprehensive chain of bewildering events centred around short cuts to control expenses of production, an inexperienced armourer being hired is the first point, the second being unrealistic expectation on her to make the position part time and for only one armourer making continuity of safety highly questionable, a prop master that was clearly not up to the task and incredibly dippy, securing a free pass from the get go for her testimony alleging it was Hannah who loaded the gun, Dave Halls who took the gun from Hannah and handed it to Alec Baldwin where he failed to prove it was a cold gun, and also did a deal with the prosecution, and the final check Alec failed to confirm it was a cold gun (what would he have done if the script called for him to point it at his head?) notwithstanding Alec committed the cardinal sin to point the gun directly at crew when the script did not direct it. There was never any malice or intent here, it was a management disaster that culminated in an avoidable death and ultimately a weaker link who was never offered a get out of jail free card was settled upon as the ultimate "patsy" that a jury accepted for convenience, the amount of justice delivered here would not fill a thimble.
Everybody working on that movie must ‘ve hated Hannah - Cause The WHOLE Movie Set Told on her
They swear to tell the truth.
Not necessarily hated her, just coveting their own bums
They certainly didn't respect her. I can't imagine why.
Scapegoat?
when she said she wasn't given enough "time to perform her armorer duties" I got the feeling she was talking about that day. When everybody quit.
A live round didn’t “go off.” Alec Baldwin pulled the trigger.
But he didn't load the gun!
Both guilty
Or as is happened to me with a 45 Colt the trigger stuck and the sheer missed the safety notch.
@@fatima01917doesn't matter. Brandon Lee died from a blank because there was something in the barrel. YOU NEVER point a gun at someone. Baldwin is also a seasoned performer and fired guns before. He is just a culpable as the armorer. It is the same argument as the bartender that gives one to many drinks to the drunk driver. They both share responsibility. It is the bartender gets the legal problem and the drunk driver walks away.
should the actor been charged for brandon lee's death? i think so.
Maybe hollywood actors handling firearms should be required to go through a basic gun safety course instead of attacking the US for current gun rights.
I agree.
Maybe from now on. That doesn't negate the fact that he was told it was a cold gun
@@mr.balloffur doesn't negate the fact that he failed to follow basic gun safety guidelines.
@@maam-yj8phI’m in the military, we literally shoot blanks at each other all the time in force on force training. In movies people shoot blanks at each other and point guns with blanks at each other. It is the armorers job to ensure those weapons do not have live rounds. The actors are legally not allowed to check the weapons or handle the ammunition on set.
@@mr.balloffur being told it's a cold gun doesn't give anyone license to wave the gun around at the crew, to point it at the crew and pull the hammer all the way back and let it go. The State's armorer testified that Alec Baldwin's actions were also negligent.
She’ll do 6 months. Maybe. But she’ll never work again.
She probably has time served already..... and clearly her family is wealthy so I think she'll be OK 🤨
Out in 3 months! Guaranteed .
I predict that the judge is gonna give her 12-18 months.
Checking rounds (shaking them) is impossible so probably starbucks.
I give it three year to 4 years
Yo Baldwin, you're next! Time to pay for your incompetence boy.
It will be interesting to see how Baldwin blames others for his actions in his trial.
Bunch of clowns the whole way through
The most damning witness was the professional armorer testifying as to what the actual job entails. He explained everything to a tea.
She looks so whatever 🙄
Only in America could a person like this be responsible for gun handling 🇺🇸
When you have a firearm in your hand...You are ultimately responsible for that firearm. Nobody else.
Right! No matter what happened before hand, Baldwin chose to aim the gun AND pull the trigger! Which anyone with half a brain wouldn't do even if they thought the gun wasn't loaded!
Unless you’re on a movie set with an armorer who is responsible for making sure the weapons are safe for use 🙃 then both people share some responsibility.
I 100 percent respect firearm safety, but when you’re on a movie set, it’s a little bit different. At the end of the day, the camerawoman also should’ve known she should not have been behind the point of the shot to the barrel. She also acted as if it was a cold gun. Everyone on set acted as if it was a cold gun.
@gianni_schicchi Am I understanding you correctly? Your saying the deceased is at fault for being shot, because she in the way of the barrel of the gun
@@gianni_schicchiyour words show you really don't respect firearms safety "100%" the "movie set" thinking here got someone killed
it does not matter if he is instructing the armorer it is the armorer's job to do her or his job.
She gives off "Im not accountable for anything" vibes.
Is no one else saying how selfish and insensitive she is that she gave a former drug addict a baggie of cocaine to save her butt?!
I think her conviction is going to be problematic for a jury to find Alec also guilty. He is going to have a whole law firm of top tier lawyers now pointing the blame at her even though he broke every rule of firearm safety.
Right .. her attorney didn't seem with it at all
I think his main problem isn't even the firearm safety but the fact that he hired her
He’s trying to sell one of his houses probably to pay for the top lawyers to get him off Scot-free.
Right. The judge said "you and you alone" in the armorer's sentencing.
@@peterquennellnyc i & i !
Imagine she even checked the revolver and said, "Hang on guys I need to change the ammo", and then she freaked out on seeing a live round and said "Wait a sec guys, let me send one off outside just to make sure". This is the type of person I expect her to be.
I still get neg. comments because I've always blamed the armorer. Even with the negligence of Baldwin firing the gun, it shouldn't have resulted in a death, whatsoever. If she did her job, no one would've been shot that day 😥 Pure negligence got an innocent person killed and another wounded, it's so sad.
Hanna Gutierez knows very well where the live round came from , she has had the audacity to deny any responsibility or blame upon herself, which is wildly. Outrageous and borderline sociopathic.
What is the need to have live rounds on a movie set? Seems that’s just asking for trouble.
I have a question for anyone that knows about this stuff - why would they ever have a need for live ammunition on a film set?
I’m not talking about set security, but rather for the purposes of filming, why would a set armourer have live munitions/cartridges?
Or, were there “live” cartridges marked as blanks?
She was playing around with the gun at the shooting range days before
The live rounds as mentioned above, were from her shooting at a range at some time previous
They were hand loaded rounds. That type is necessary to prevent damage to these old revolvers. It is very difficult to tell the difference in different hand loads. So clear marking of boxes. Paint on certain rounds types and keeping everything locked up is essential. They should have used snap caps and done the smoke in post. This was all about saving money.
@@matthewmoore7447 thanks
There's no reason that's why she's in jail
"Most" of the time". Russian roulette method of safety.
I care deeply about car safety. That's why I almost never drink and drive.
24 years old, wow. You see this a lot in airplane crashes too, a difference between assigned responsibility, and real-world social hierarchies.
Alec Baldwin isnt even good at PRETENDING to know how to shoot a gun 💀
He looks ridiculous. So bad.
You wouldn’t expect Baldwin’s father to have been to be a school shooting instructor and had taught Alec how to shoot. He really should know how to shoot a firearm and what the safety procedures are.
Huh, who would have thought that actors aren't really as capable as the fictional characters they play?
Yea the lady who threw the evidence away got “ immunity “ while they go all out on Hannah.
The deepest pockets universally win....regardless of the case...
Stop saying "went off" like magic took place
Amazing the change that makeup does for a person in court
And removal of blue and yellow hair and 40lbs.
@@richs7362 lol yes ,,,
40 pounds and a lawyer
She's not really wearing much makeup.
I almost felt sorry for her until you hear her talk. Like if you're doing a job that protects people and you can't do your job right, then quit. Don't just keep going until something like this happens... then blame management.
I've been on a lot of movies...I've never seen a time where most of the crew just up and quit on the day of the shoot...for safety reasons. That should have been taken more seriously.
Baldwin better hope he doesn't get the same jury.
The incompetence of the now generation is numbing.
Well that’s a sweeping statement. Damning an entire generation for one individual’s failings.
This generation's confidence is on the same order as their ignorance.@@alisonmlewis4825
I have a buddy whom i know for 20 years, one day he shows his new hand gun to me, he took the magazine out and then waving the gun around, pointing to different directions, I was dumbfounded by the action and my brain blank out for a few seconds, until my other friend took the pistol over and unloaded a LIVE round still in the chamber. We are still friends, but I would never go shooting with him ever again.
The funny part is the amount of rules and regulations for firearms around a movie set vs. almost zero regulations applied in real life.
Did they think dying her hair would make her look more professional and we couldn't ever think she would do this intentionally. Her interrogation is very damaging! Her knowledge of what happened to Lee and the fact she even brought it up during that interrogation is telling! She set Alec up!!! She's the only guilty person!!!
I don’t get how anyone else would be responsible for this but her… it’s literally her JOB to check the rounds and load the gun. Maybe Alec Baldwin was reckless but AFTER she loaded the gun and handed it off
ever hear of reckless endangerment
Yep. And possibly the person who insisted on the diversity hire.
Diversity hire? This wasn't a diversity hire, she was hired because of nepotism. Her daddy got the job for her. Weird that you went to, "what is a women doing that job for" instead of "why would an unqualified person get the job just because her daddy was known in the industry".
Try to be upset at the right thing.
she is guilty thats is it. not ALEC
Why were there even live ammo on set!
Insanity!
The production was being rushed and hired on the cheap.
They got what they paid for.
She was unprofessional being hired just because her father/ stepfather was a well-known armorer.
You're gonna have to do a lot more convincing To convince me that it was hard to not have live ammo on that set.
I hate what happened all together. I especially hate the loss of the beautiful woman's life so unexpectedly. I honestly was hurt to see how Alec Baldwin was treated in this because he didn't handle the weapon before hand and I'd like to think that he'd never do anything like this. 🥺 Upon hearing about the hiding of drugs during the police search is just wild! Why we're people who use drugs anywhere near a movie set? Whomever brought it there was too comfortable and did that often. A precious life was lost during all of this and unfortunately someone has to be held accountable for this horrible incident 💔.
The gun at 9:12 is made for shooting blanks only. Metal plates block most of the cylinder, so a live round will not fit.
Jesse, Jesse, Jesse. Please don't call that gun in question a prop gun. The armorer specialist testified that prop guns are plastic or replicas. He said fully operable guns are live guns.
No, on a film set a prop is anything an actor holds
THAT HAIRCUT AT 11.09 TOLD ME EVERYTHING I NEED TO KNOW
No one here is talking about individual responsibility. Firearm safety 101 is to check if a firearm is loaded every time it’s handed to you or before you hand it to someone else, and them/you verifying it’s unloaded.
And if you don't know how to check it, you ask someone who does!.
That's LITERALLY what the armorer's job is.
This was a movie set, not a gun range. Actors should follow whatever protocol has been established for movie sets employing an armorer. I honestly don't know what that protocol is.
If Hannah Gutierrez-Reed was responsible for checking the gun before handing it to Baldwin, then why Baldwin is being blamed..??? It makes no sense to blame Baldwin for something that was clearly the responsibility of Hannah Gutierrez-Reed. If the likes of John Wayne who was in many Western Movies had to check and recheck every single time they took a shot, it would have taken many years to finish a single movie....!!!
Exactly this. It does not matter if there is an armorer. Doesn't matter that it was a movie set and not a gun range. These protocols for safety exist to prevent exactly this. It doesn't matter whose job it was... The safe handling of the weapon is the responsibility of everybody who touches it. Loading it and unloading it? Sure that goes to Hannah. Showing people how to check it? Sure, that's her. No argument here. But every single person who touches a weapon has a responsibility to verify for them themselves. It does not matter the setting. It does not matter the job. And situations like this are exactly why. There was an officer who was recently killed by another officer at a training class. And the officer who shot her said he thought the gun was empty. He had been told it was empty. But he didn't check for himself. He is responsible.
Though full of fear for her going to prison
She SHOULD be the one held accountable .
Her slacking on her job
is a huge component of this
Never would had happened
Had she been
Responsible at work
This is what happens when you hire someone because of whose kid they are or who they know
I need to know where you got that canvas picture that's behind you. I love it! It looks like abandoned paint with blood lol.