Man, this guy has a lot of wisdom. I like how he isn't just throwing out hot takes, he's genuinely giving considerate, thoughtful commentary without being overly dismissive like so many internet personalities are when it comes to working out.
He's got plenty of experience, knowledge and he pays attention to the evidenced based studies on the topic... but I wouldn't call him wise. Wise people don't use gear.
@@PB22559well, even wise people can do not so wise things sometimes, doesnt make them less wise, they would be less wise if they didnt know what they are doing
First off: this is great. The overlay of Mike's training is perfect while also including the raw footage. second: Renaissance Periodization is an amazing channel
I love that he knows that the science evolves and he doesn't assume that he's right about what he saying. He's open minded enough to want to hear other people's different opinions and experiences. He's the kind of guy you can trust. If he was a medical doctor, he's the kind I'd want to have. Someone who knows that you can't ignore the signs your body is giving you, even if they contradict the science.
I'm on my 3rd listen of this video, and plan to go through it at least once more while taking notes. There is literally 2 lifetimes of training wisdom contained in this talk. Gratitude brothers. Thank you both.
@@rando9574even if its unnecessary to know everything, we still try because of curiosity and interest. I probably know enough to last me at least to intermediate stages of my journey but I'm a nerd and all the finer details interest me 😅
One thing that's hard to let go of is the intensity you trained with as an athlete when you were younger. It was always about high volume and high intensity. So it took me a while to realize you can maintain with like 30% of what you think you need as you get older. If you train more with strategy and less emotion, you actually look as good and feel even better while being more efficient.
Yup. I'm 41 and I've noticed my BJJ and MMA skills have become so efficient over the last decade of training. I can train 4 hour sessions if it has proper periodization.
I'm going through that process right now at 35. Training with intensity as if I was 19 again and not only am I not making progress I'm going backwards. Listening to Mike mentzer helped me realize and now I've pumped the brakes and can slowly feel myself filling back in and no longer always drained and tired.
Love the finishing point guys. Define success on your terms. Be clear about what your goals are and if you don't have goals sit down alone seriously for even a few hours (maybe put away technology and all distractions in a quiet room) and think about what the hell you want to do in life. The only thing which should upset you in terms of personal attainment is being lazy in regards to the standards you've set for yourself.
@@calebmaestratinot exactly, watch h people do dips and not go deep enough. They're missing out on muscle building gains. Because they aren't getting a deep stretch. Stretch is a big factor that contributes to mass. A lot of calisthenics people don't go down far enough.
I love that this episode exists! I have been using the @RenaissancePeriodization programming style with calisthenic movements for the last 7 months. Ramping up intensity and lowering RIR as you progress through a mesocycle was a game changer. Deloads were a foreign concept to me before listening to Dr Mike's content but have been huge in limiting systemic fatigue. Then slowly adding reps or weight with a weight vest to stay within the hypertrophy rep range. More calisthenics athletes should try out the periodization methods Dr. Mike implements. The gains are INSANE when paired with the right nutrition and plenty of sleep.
I know right? If you search dr Mike israetel on RUclips you can find his other channel, I think it’s called making progress, and it’s nothing about physically lifting but it’s about mentality and mindset about life in general. Honestly, the answer to your question is not rhetorical and it’s in that channel. Bottoms up my friend! 🙌
I believe hating your current situation can be a super powerful motivator to do better in many aspects of life. As long as your turn hates into actions in a corrective course, feel free to hate the worst version of yourself and love the best version. It's all about balance. Don't hate your actions and physique, If you don't love what it could be naturally with dedication.
Depends on what your metric is. It seems like there are some insane performers out there who leveraged self-disdain to the exclusion of anything else. But I doubt that’s the way to a fulfilled life.
Hey Daniel, I recently finished watching this podcast and I just want to personally say thank you so much for this one. Obviously it was packed full of information but it was actually the very end that resonated with me when you were talking about how you aren’t the typical calisthenics athlete. The little note about how you did a straddle planche and therefore you win, even if people are asking you why you haven’t done a full planche. You’ve been a huge inspiration for me as both a calisthenics athlete and a content creator. Hearing you say something like this out loud really made me rethink how much pressure I put on myself to hit certain goals like a full planche just so I feel qualified or good enough to give advice. It sounds crazy since your polls have shown me I’m like…top 10% in terms of planche progressions but that feeling was still there. Long story short, I’m taking your approach. When I initially started calisthenics, a straddle planche was my goal. I win :) But I’ll keep pushing, for ME!
Great podcast, Hope Dr. Eric Helms can be your next guest! Hes also a very knowledgeable powerhouse in Evidence based fitness ,Exercise science, lifting etc , he has been invited to many different fitness podcasts on RUclips. He is a strength and conditioning professor and sport performance researcher, he also competed in Bodybuilding and powerlifting. I sincerely hope he can be your next guest . Thank you Daniel !!
Very informative and it justifies how I have been training, weighted sets increasing either reps or weight for 5--10 sets at 64 years young. This man's knowledge is gold! Thanks Daniel!
I'm 68 years old and I do less weights and more calisthenics now and I'm getting great results. More mobility and flexibility. I've got great muscle thickness and definition. Great way to transition to.
Hearing Mike in this type of setting really has me appreciating him so much more! Excellent session guys. Your approach to interviewing Daniel is spot on!! Cheers
As a 42-year-old weightlifter, I wish I had resources like this 25 years ago. I definitely would have done things differently from 17-30 to take advantage of youthful muscle gains.
Yeah I'm almost 32 and been lifting since I was 17 and just now figuring out proper form on alot of lifts and it's made a huge difference. Wish I would've researched more as a younger guy
This podcast makes me incredibly happy. It was a blessing to see a crossover between Mike and Frinksmovement (closest we'll ever get I guess to something like Gornation having conversation with Mike on the practical implications of hypertrophy on calisthenic training) and Daniel and Eugene Teo. Now there's finally one with Daniel and Mike. Daniel who has substantial knowledge, skill, judgement and experience in calisthenics, and Mike who has tremendous knowledge, skill, judgement and experience in the world of hypertrophy and knows the ins-and-outs of natty and enhanced training. Two people who have helped many through the years, including myself 🙏
Great insights here. I end up watching just as many (or more) "don't do this" videos as I do the "do this" ones and I have to say yours are some of the very best. Keep up the great content Jonni!
I'm glad Mike immediately dispelled the "naturals must get stronger to grow" myth. My most impressive physique progress came when I stopped caring about strength altogether. People always acted like I was crazy when I said that.
The problem is people think of strength as just 1rm strength but if you are either adding reps to a weight, increasing weight at a higher rep range or even improving rep quality you are still getting stronger.
@@brandonevans4020 I agree, but beyond that it was volume and work capacity. Getting my muscles to handle more sets and fatigue was integral. People disregard muscular endurance but it's of equal value as brute strength for hypertrophy training.
@@frog6054 Yes. Like Mike mentioned you are trying to find an optimal stimulus-to-fatigue ratio, a good example would be doing a heavier weight for 3x6 vs a lighter weight for 4x10. There doesn't seem like much difference but a 3x6 set is 18 total reps while 4x10 is 40 total reps, more than double the volume of the heavier set. Over time adjustments like this make an enormous difference.
@@pricerowland volume is actually defined by number of sets close to failure and not total reps. The advantage of doing higher rep sets is you're using less weight which builds less fatigue which allows you to do more sets.
Think this one is better than the recent ones, some of the podcasts are quite repetitive in terms of topics and what is being said and discussed, I think this has more new info. Good work man!
@@andrewyoung328 I started training with weights again, because I was getting bored of calistenics only. I am not sure when to start calistenics when only training with weights previously. I would maybe start Push days with getting better at Ring Holds (or normal Dips) or on pull days start with Pull Ups. Just begin with one calistenics exercise and progress and see how much calistenics exercises you want to add to your normal workout. Atleast thats how I would do it.
Can't believe I missed this until now. Both of you and Jeff Nippard have been the biggest positive influences in my fitness journey. Thanks for the great content and inspiration.
Around 55:00 what you're talking about fits nicely with the Eat More Exercise More / Eat Less Exercise Less (EMEM/ELEL) approach, since isometrics can be considered less taxing (at least energy-wise). Another thing nice to do is to increase the mobility work, since it's also more fun to stretch when you're leaner (esp. when the belly is smaller).
Mikes answer to the body dis morphia question and nailing an answer. Like it’s your body, make the best you can of it. There’s aren’t any tooth fairy’s. Stop wishing for stuff you can’t have. Excellent pod cast thank you both.
chapter „healthy body image“ starting at 1:21:00 is loaded with great advice! thank you! 💪 I base my motivation for training on my thankfulness for that what I have and what I am capable of… I try to make the most out of it, but not to hurt myself 🙂
I'm new to calisthenics and discovered this channel tonight. I never heard about you or Zdenek before. However I found this video surprisingly honest, straight to the point and truly positive. This is the kind of content I'm looking for. Keep it up! Subscribed 👍
Calisthetics hands down is my favorite way to workout. Its very convinent and you can workout anywhere because its convenient. At home, Backyard, woods, supermarket, parking lot, work, the mall, literally ANYWHERE. And it goes into play with NO excuses. I can think of tons of excuses why someone can't make it to the gym but literally none to not do calisthetics. Making use of your own body to workout is a concept I love so much with calisthetics. The gym is objectively better in terms of long term gains since there is no roof with how big you can get with weights also no limit with strength either. I thinks calisthetics is great to build a foundation and weights to add on to that if you wish to do so. People are still one sided with weights and its fucking annoying. Look at prisoners, fit poor people, gladiators, ancient warriors, these people don't got access to weights but still build amazing physiques cause TENSION IS TENSION. They used to lift rocks and tree logs to get tough. If you can lift those things to get tough your bodyweight will work just fine !
I absolutely agree.....I will always stick to Calisthenics. It's amazing.. I recently unlocked the Tuck Planche at 220 pounds and at 6 feet 7 inches tall...Defying GRAVITY💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻😁.. Calisthenics always makes me feel sooooo sooo good, especially whenever I achieve a calisthenics skill after putting in hard work and perseverance
I’m a bodybuilder and I love incorporating some calisthenics that place a huge stretch on the muscle like pull-ups for lats and deep dips for chest and triceps.
Thats just not accurate. Yes, Prisoners, gladiators or ancient warriors are jacked because of progressive overload, whether its reps, sets or weight dont matter as much. Prisoners mostly because of the environment they are in and lack of having other shit to do than eating, training and sleeping consistently in order to make their time go faster. You can build an amazing physique with bodyweight exercises, sure, but is it the ideal way to grow muscle, fuck no. The equipment that we have in our gyms are stuff that would have been unimaginable and true lifehacks for ancient warriors. If a bunch of gladiators got gym membership and a personal trainer from modern era, they would be unstoppable compared to the boneheads lifting rocks and doing pushups with random weights and questionable form.
@@og2lax227 Its VERY much accurate. Ive said before and you admitted that progressive overload is progressive overload. Gladiators, ancient warriors,prisoners were in times and in enviornments that forced discipline to get the physiques they had which you said so idk what your talking about. Ive never shitted on the gym either i said OBJECTIVELY the gym is better over all and you can use it to add on to what you built with calisthetics. I mean the fact that you brought up prisoners and that that got fit due to certain circmstances proves my point even further. Harder variation, holding concentrics and eccentrics will do you just good. Ive seen plenty of people at the gym whove been there for months to years still looking the same with no gains but only in strength. A guy who doing basic calisthetics with proper strict form, differnt variation with proper nutrition and recovery days will run laps around a guy at the gym with no good nutrition,lack of recovery days and mindless repping in terms of muscle and physique. Calisthetics in terms of muscle ideally its just as good as weights but theres a roof to how big you can get which is a cavet for guys that wanna look like arnold, old stallone, frank zane, or the rock which i know for a fact majority of men dont wanna really look that muscular. With enough discipline, proper nutrition, progressive overload regardless of the method ANYTHING can work. The gym is better but calisthetics is an alternative way proving you dont need to go to the gym to get strong and in good shape. My point of bringing up gladiators, ancient warriors and prisoners and they got fit with minimal to no equiptment was to prove you dont got to be held down to a gym to workout. Anywhere and anything can work as long as you apply the principles just stated earlier.
The number one purpose of doing exercise is for health benefits, it will boost the immune system, and in the long run it will prolong life. Really educational conversation, learned a lot.
Since I started following all those recommendations with meso cycles, volume, intensity and so on I feel progression is slower than when I went for "do whatever you like" with a goal in mind, for example learning a skill.
After all those are only recommendations and not gospel. Maybe in 20 years strength athletes will laugh the the stuff we do today. Do what works for you
Hey Daniel love your podcast❤️ Please interview Josh Bryant he's a very talented coach and has a lot of experience in bodyweight- as well as weight training! Thanks for doing this format in the calisthenics scene m8 💪
Everyone has a different body shape that is true, so it is best to try different workouts until you actually find what workouts for your body first because i been lifting weights for 6months and still berly building muscle so dont compared to other body builder lifting heavy i dont care i lift 20 to 25 weights and im working my way up almost all of every body suffers from depression dont give up even if you go solo to tha gym
Such a good podcast. Resonated a lot to me as relative new gym goer in my 40s. I had a lot of local success in martial arts in my 20s, but would have really benefitted from strength and conditioning coaching outside of technique and sparring training. Resources like this really should help the next generation of sportsmen and sportswomen achieve higher goals in their chosen field.
Knowledge of literature sure he’s top tier. In terms of actual effective advice I think Alpha Destiny (Alexander Leonidas, this guy follows the literature a lot too even the way he talks has changed a lot over the years) and Bald Omni Man have him beat. I’d throw in Natural Hypertrophy as 3rd
@@TheHYENA87 If you think we’re overcomplicating things then the comment of x person’s knowledge is amazing becomes moot because we’re not comparing it to anything
@@TheHYENA87 If you say I’m overcomplicating things then you’re saying that about all of the people we’re talking about…you must be new to the legitimacy of being more detailed about your programming
I do calisthenics. I like being able to work out at home with minimal equipment. No, it won't get you huge, but just doing pushups, pullups, and sit ups is enough to make you really strong and look really good. If you have low body fat, you'll look plenty muscular. At least that's my experience doing dushups, pull ups, sit ups, weights with 20 lb dumbbells, and running. I don't feel the need to get any bigger.
Now I know why I don't listen to Dr Mike more, it's because him and I have a lot of similar thoughts about training. Which is exactly why I'm going to be listening him more from now on.
As far as the calisthenics, I cut down body weight started doing more reps and when I started putting weight back on I was still banging out the same number, so very similar and opposite idea...and wasn't even the plan. Interesting to hear about how higher body fat protects joints, can't believe I didn't know or didn't remember that if I ever heard it. This one video is so comprehensive and informative..gold standard advice and education here
love this guy, he was on a podcast episode i was listening to recently too, he knows his stuff! i have been doing calisthenics for a while now but have not seen much hypertrophy in my body personally and not as much strength gain as i thought i would have by now. Not sure whether that is because im female etc but ive recently started doing 1 rep max work eg, for my 1 rep max pull up, push up and dips...lets see what happens :)
1 rep max will build strength not hypertrophy. As they say in the podcast you should train in the 5-30rep range...and somewhere between 10-20sets per week per bodypart. Good luck 💪
@@usbsol ah thank you, aestheically im not too fussed about the lack of hypertrophy, but more about gaining strength. As you said and i also mentioned, this is probably best done with less reps and heavier weights. thank you, lets see how i go...currently injured and cant train atm :/
This has so much great info! Its just a shame Daniel can't riff a bit more when Dr Mike is more relaxed and making his jokes. Makes it seem more like a formal interview than a relaxed podcasts with 2 extremely knowledgeable guys
To be fair gaining mass really doesn't seem to be the point of doing calisthenics. Just from what I've gathered as I've been into it for a little while. There's something very satisfying about being able to control your body in a certain way and maintaining a more flexible, balanced, and athletic physique. It's kind of freeing in a sense, haha. But I think it's helpful having a perspective from bodybuilding as well, on understanding how to work muscles for pique strength and so on.
I've gained some mass from gymnastics and calisthenics, but not a lot. Could just be my routines aren't the best. So let me know if you have an effective routine for building mass with calisthenics.
I use calisthetics in the 5 to 15 rep range, trying to build muscle. But I want to do handstand pushups and stuff like that. I was a bit bigger when I lifted so think supplementing with weights is a must for building muscle.
It can be contradictory because it's hard to do many moves unless you are as light as possible. Thick legs from doing squats won't help with the planche holds. So it's not that they can't gain mass but they don't really want to
Hey Daniel, recently found your channel at it has been a blast ever since. I have a problem i hope you can help me with: I just bought gym rings, but when i do dips on them, my forearms get scuffed up by the friction against the ring itself. Do you have any tips to combat this problem?
Hello Nico, short answer: you're forearms will get use to it. I do rings all the time, and in the begging I even got some bruises in my forearms and did not even know they were because of the rings, but now I don't have any and don't feel pain!
@@TheIncredibleFlyingSausage that was the first solution i came up with,but seeing all these guys on youtube doing them shirtless, i just wondered how they managed to do it
Yeah, I’m involving out of the therapy part and now I’m into it being a part of me. I’m feeling way better, it just fails, right. A lot more of my life feels right.
@nickthequick2326 I mean he does juice, he's open about that. Doesn't mean his advice is bad, he was into educated in it and into this industry before that from what I understand.
For the people who use weights. Yes you can do low rep sets or high rep sets to gain muscle. You should be going to failure or when you know you can't get another rep on your own. The advantage of the lower rep sets is your bones will get stronger as you get stronger. To me older lifters should be working on gaining and keeping strength for the rest of their lives.
calisthenics is INSANELY GOOD for power to weight RATIO,its VERY HARD to grow after a while but people who got past that have insane power to weight ratio the hardest thing to train are legs,witch you have to brute force trough hard exercises or an insane number of reps
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Man, this guy has a lot of wisdom. I like how he isn't just throwing out hot takes, he's genuinely giving considerate, thoughtful commentary without being overly dismissive like so many internet personalities are when it comes to working out.
He's got plenty of experience, knowledge and he pays attention to the evidenced based studies on the topic... but I wouldn't call him wise. Wise people don't use gear.
@brianpena2239 Haha... 😁😁😅
Mike Mentzer was not wise but he was smarter
@@PB22559well, even wise people can do not so wise things sometimes, doesnt make them less wise, they would be less wise if they didnt know what they are doing
He literally has 10 part lecture called "arguing to convince" on his channel.
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First off: this is great. The overlay of Mike's training is perfect while also including the raw footage. second: Renaissance Periodization is an amazing channel
Dr. Mike is absolutely fantastic!!! Daniel and Dr. Mike together is a true dream team of reasonable, balanced, non-BS training advisors!
The collab we didn't know we needed! Been a fan of both of you for so long, happy to see this collab!
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No mate I have been waiting for this one for so long😂
Dan V and the Doc , how have I only just seen this , talk about a hidden gem
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Daniel is the guy who always learn and listen more than he talks. Thats a man
I love that he knows that the science evolves and he doesn't assume that he's right about what he saying. He's open minded enough to want to hear other people's different opinions and experiences. He's the kind of guy you can trust. If he was a medical doctor, he's the kind I'd want to have. Someone who knows that you can't ignore the signs your body is giving you, even if they contradict the science.
I'm on my 3rd listen of this video, and plan to go through it at least once more while taking notes.
There is literally 2 lifetimes of training wisdom contained in this talk.
Gratitude brothers. Thank you both.
Well said!
absolutely hard agree
Dont forget to go to the gym XD
@@rando9574even if its unnecessary to know everything, we still try because of curiosity and interest. I probably know enough to last me at least to intermediate stages of my journey but I'm a nerd and all the finer details interest me 😅
One thing that's hard to let go of is the intensity you trained with as an athlete when you were younger. It was always about high volume and high intensity.
So it took me a while to realize you can maintain with like 30% of what you think you need as you get older. If you train more with strategy and less emotion, you actually look as good and feel even better while being more efficient.
Damn. 👏🏻
Yup. I'm 41 and I've noticed my BJJ and MMA skills have become so efficient over the last decade of training. I can train 4 hour sessions if it has proper periodization.
If you want u can focus more on reps, it'll also use the muscle more than a couple heavy reps. Alot of reps eventually does get intense
Less is more
If the weight is too light, slow down. 👍🏾
I'm going through that process right now at 35. Training with intensity as if I was 19 again and not only am I not making progress I'm going backwards. Listening to Mike mentzer helped me realize and now I've pumped the brakes and can slowly feel myself filling back in and no longer always drained and tired.
Love the finishing point guys. Define success on your terms. Be clear about what your goals are and if you don't have goals sit down alone seriously for even a few hours (maybe put away technology and all distractions in a quiet room) and think about what the hell you want to do in life. The only thing which should upset you in terms of personal attainment is being lazy in regards to the standards you've set for yourself.
This was probably the best podcast I have ever seen. You two could talk once a week and it would be the best thing ever.
Yes. The day a hypertrophy coach met a calisthenics coach.
yes haha hello fellow cunningham hgahahahaa
There are many videos of Fitnessfaqs & EugeneTeo, they are a great combo
its the same shit lol.
@@calebmaestratinot exactly, watch h people do dips and not go deep enough. They're missing out on muscle building gains. Because they aren't getting a deep stretch. Stretch is a big factor that contributes to mass. A lot of calisthenics people don't go down far enough.
Hypertrophy coach is the nice way bodybuilders call their drug Guru/ dealer.
I love that this episode exists! I have been using the @RenaissancePeriodization programming style with calisthenic movements for the last 7 months. Ramping up intensity and lowering RIR as you progress through a mesocycle was a game changer. Deloads were a foreign concept to me before listening to Dr Mike's content but have been huge in limiting systemic fatigue. Then slowly adding reps or weight with a weight vest to stay within the hypertrophy rep range. More calisthenics athletes should try out the periodization methods Dr. Mike implements. The gains are INSANE when paired with the right nutrition and plenty of sleep.
Are you using the RP app?
Wow, Mike legit goes full range on every movement... I'm reducing the weight on my squats so I can do that perfect form and full range.
Dr Mike is the greatest BB educator on RUclips. Absolutely.
Dr. Eric helms as well , they are both top powerhouses
How do you maintain such a positive mindset throughout your fitness journey? Your resilience and mental strength are truly admirable.
I know right? If you search dr Mike israetel on RUclips you can find his other channel, I think it’s called making progress, and it’s nothing about physically lifting but it’s about mentality and mindset about life in general. Honestly, the answer to your question is not rhetorical and it’s in that channel. Bottoms up my friend! 🙌
I believe hating your current situation can be a super powerful motivator to do better in many aspects of life. As long as your turn hates into actions in a corrective course, feel free to hate the worst version of yourself and love the best version. It's all about balance. Don't hate your actions and physique, If you don't love what it could be naturally with dedication.
Depends on what your metric is. It seems like there are some insane performers out there who leveraged self-disdain to the exclusion of anything else. But I doubt that’s the way to a fulfilled life.
Two of my favourite strength experts in one podcast. Seems to good to be true. Great job for inviting Dr Mike!
By 1:01:22 where mike starts talking about if u don't use machines, nobody cares, was a real awakening moment for me
Hey Daniel,
I recently finished watching this podcast and I just want to personally say thank you so much for this one.
Obviously it was packed full of information but it was actually the very end that resonated with me when you were talking about how you aren’t the typical calisthenics athlete.
The little note about how you did a straddle planche and therefore you win, even if people are asking you why you haven’t done a full planche.
You’ve been a huge inspiration for me as both a calisthenics athlete and a content creator. Hearing you say something like this out loud really made me rethink how much pressure I put on myself to hit certain goals like a full planche just so I feel qualified or good enough to give advice.
It sounds crazy since your polls have shown me I’m like…top 10% in terms of planche progressions but that feeling was still there.
Long story short, I’m taking your approach. When I initially started calisthenics, a straddle planche was my goal. I win :)
But I’ll keep pushing, for ME!
Great podcast, Hope Dr. Eric Helms can be your next guest! Hes also a very knowledgeable powerhouse in Evidence based fitness ,Exercise science, lifting etc , he has been invited to many different fitness podcasts on RUclips. He is a strength and conditioning professor and sport performance researcher, he also competed in Bodybuilding and powerlifting.
I sincerely hope he can be your next guest . Thank you Daniel !!
Yes please 👍 Also he doesn't make use of any drugs in his work
Helms is brilliant👍
Jeff Nippard needs to come as well
@@vn5774 Yup ,some of the wisest man in the fitness industry
Very informative and it justifies how I have been training, weighted sets increasing either reps or weight for 5--10 sets at 64 years young. This man's knowledge is gold! Thanks Daniel!
Please never stop these podcasts they are a gem of knowledge
I'm 68 years old and I do less weights and more calisthenics now and I'm getting great results. More mobility and flexibility. I've got great muscle thickness and definition. Great way to transition to.
One of the best fitness podcasts I listened to in a long time. Thanks Daniel for having a great talk with Mike!
I must say that mike's explanation about the strength of signals generated by certain lifting intensities really made it all crystal clear for me.
This podcast is absolutely fantastic. Good job Daniel for asking such smart questions and inviting the goat, Mike. 🙏🙏
Hearing Mike in this type of setting really has me appreciating him so much more! Excellent session guys.
Your approach to interviewing Daniel is spot on!! Cheers
I DID NOT EXPECT THIS COLLAB.
DIDN'T KNOW I NEEDED IT EITHER.
As a 42-year-old weightlifter, I wish I had resources like this 25 years ago. I definitely would have done things differently from 17-30 to take advantage of youthful muscle gains.
I’m 29 Still hanging. I heard it goes down after 30😬
You, me, and all of us!!
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@@ToothCarpenter93 38 here, noting is going down yet. Could be coming soon, but definitely not yet.
Yeah I'm almost 32 and been lifting since I was 17 and just now figuring out proper form on alot of lifts and it's made a huge difference. Wish I would've researched more as a younger guy
This podcast makes me incredibly happy. It was a blessing to see a crossover between Mike and Frinksmovement (closest we'll ever get I guess to something like Gornation having conversation with Mike on the practical implications of hypertrophy on calisthenic training) and Daniel and Eugene Teo. Now there's finally one with Daniel and Mike. Daniel who has substantial knowledge, skill, judgement and experience in calisthenics, and Mike who has tremendous knowledge, skill, judgement and experience in the world of hypertrophy and knows the ins-and-outs of natty and enhanced training. Two people who have helped many through the years, including myself 🙏
Did weights for few years then got on the calisthenics after watching Shredder acnd Sean g... Never looked back love it 💯
I did ten years of calisthenics before getting into weights when I first got into fitness and I never went back to calisthenics only.
Great insights here. I end up watching just as many (or more) "don't do this" videos as I do the "do this" ones and I have to say yours are some of the very best. Keep up the great content Jonni!
I'm glad Mike immediately dispelled the "naturals must get stronger to grow" myth. My most impressive physique progress came when I stopped caring about strength altogether. People always acted like I was crazy when I said that.
The problem is people think of strength as just 1rm strength but if you are either adding reps to a weight, increasing weight at a higher rep range or even improving rep quality you are still getting stronger.
@@brandonevans4020 I agree, but beyond that it was volume and work capacity. Getting my muscles to handle more sets and fatigue was integral. People disregard muscular endurance but it's of equal value as brute strength for hypertrophy training.
So basically you just do more volume and less weight?
@@frog6054 Yes. Like Mike mentioned you are trying to find an optimal stimulus-to-fatigue ratio, a good example would be doing a heavier weight for 3x6 vs a lighter weight for 4x10. There doesn't seem like much difference but a 3x6 set is 18 total reps while 4x10 is 40 total reps, more than double the volume of the heavier set. Over time adjustments like this make an enormous difference.
@@pricerowland volume is actually defined by number of sets close to failure and not total reps. The advantage of doing higher rep sets is you're using less weight which builds less fatigue which allows you to do more sets.
Think this one is better than the recent ones, some of the podcasts are quite repetitive in terms of topics and what is being said and discussed, I think this has more new info. Good work man!
That was terrific! Thank you! What a great collab!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Awesome Collab and interview setup! Very clear, concise questions and comments while still having a lot of detail/input. Thoroughly enjoyed this one!
Brilliant, both these guys are great and excellent sources of knowledge 👏
they're a good source of strength too
This is such a Christmas gift, Daniel. 🙏
Dr. Mike is awesome!! I have learned so much from him this last year and have had some great gains thanks to his information
Damn the way this guy just spits wisdom non stop, what a gold mine
Started with calistenics only, now doing hybrid calistenics/weights. Going great!
Nice! I'm thinking about starting with calisthenics myself. How do you know when is good time to start doing both?
@@andrewyoung328 I started training with weights again, because I was getting bored of calistenics only.
I am not sure when to start calistenics when only training with weights previously. I would maybe start Push days with getting better at Ring Holds (or normal Dips) or on pull days start with Pull Ups. Just begin with one calistenics exercise and progress and see how much calistenics exercises you want to add to your normal workout.
Atleast thats how I would do it.
i started with hybrid, switched to calisthenics only because i found it to be more fun and easier.
Oh shit, two of my favorite fitness youtubers! I know what I'm listening to during today's workout.
A collab we've all been waiting for 👀
Can't believe I missed this until now. Both of you and Jeff Nippard have been the biggest positive influences in my fitness journey. Thanks for the great content and inspiration.
Awesome collab, two diverging perspectives coming together is what we all needed. Best way to learn 🙏
Around 55:00 what you're talking about fits nicely with the Eat More Exercise More / Eat Less Exercise Less (EMEM/ELEL) approach, since isometrics can be considered less taxing (at least energy-wise). Another thing nice to do is to increase the mobility work, since it's also more fun to stretch when you're leaner (esp. when the belly is smaller).
He's hilarious 😂 ..and super informative at the same time
Mikes answer to the body dis morphia question and nailing an answer. Like it’s your body, make the best you can of it. There’s aren’t any tooth fairy’s. Stop wishing for stuff you can’t have. Excellent pod cast thank you both.
chapter „healthy body image“ starting at 1:21:00 is loaded with great advice! thank you! 💪 I base my motivation for training on my thankfulness for that what I have and what I am capable of… I try to make the most out of it, but not to hurt myself 🙂
This guy mindset is everything bro. Using logic and common sense together should be a principle of life. 🔥🔥🔥
Wow. Perfect questions and well explained answers.
I'm new to calisthenics and discovered this channel tonight. I never heard about you or Zdenek before. However I found this video surprisingly honest, straight to the point and truly positive. This is the kind of content I'm looking for. Keep it up! Subscribed 👍
Calisthetics hands down is my favorite way to workout. Its very convinent and you can workout anywhere because its convenient. At home, Backyard, woods, supermarket, parking lot, work, the mall, literally ANYWHERE. And it goes into play with NO excuses. I can think of tons of excuses why someone can't make it to the gym but literally none to not do calisthetics. Making use of your own body to workout is a concept I love so much with calisthetics. The gym is objectively better in terms of long term gains since there is no roof with how big you can get with weights also no limit with strength either. I thinks calisthetics is great to build a foundation and weights to add on to that if you wish to do so. People are still one sided with weights and its fucking annoying. Look at prisoners, fit poor people, gladiators, ancient warriors, these people don't got access to weights but still build amazing physiques cause TENSION IS TENSION. They used to lift rocks and tree logs to get tough. If you can lift those things to get tough your bodyweight will work just fine !
I absolutely agree.....I will always stick to Calisthenics. It's amazing.. I recently unlocked the Tuck Planche at 220 pounds and at 6 feet 7 inches tall...Defying GRAVITY💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻👍🏻👍🏻😁..
Calisthenics always makes me feel sooooo sooo good, especially whenever I achieve a calisthenics skill after putting in hard work and perseverance
I’m a bodybuilder and I love incorporating some calisthenics that place a huge stretch on the muscle like pull-ups for lats and deep dips for chest and triceps.
Thats just not accurate. Yes, Prisoners, gladiators or ancient warriors are jacked because of progressive overload, whether its reps, sets or weight dont matter as much. Prisoners mostly because of the environment they are in and lack of having other shit to do than eating, training and sleeping consistently in order to make their time go faster.
You can build an amazing physique with bodyweight exercises, sure, but is it the ideal way to grow muscle, fuck no. The equipment that we have in our gyms are stuff that would have been unimaginable and true lifehacks for ancient warriors. If a bunch of gladiators got gym membership and a personal trainer from modern era, they would be unstoppable compared to the boneheads lifting rocks and doing pushups with random weights and questionable form.
@@og2lax227 Its VERY much accurate. Ive said before and you admitted that progressive overload is progressive overload. Gladiators, ancient warriors,prisoners were in times and in enviornments that forced discipline to get the physiques they had which you said so idk what your talking about. Ive never shitted on the gym either i said OBJECTIVELY the gym is better over all and you can use it to add on to what you built with calisthetics. I mean the fact that you brought up prisoners and that that got fit due to certain circmstances proves my point even further. Harder variation, holding concentrics and eccentrics will do you just good. Ive seen plenty of people at the gym whove been there for months to years still looking the same with no gains but only in strength. A guy who doing basic calisthetics with proper strict form, differnt variation with proper nutrition and recovery days will run laps around a guy at the gym with no good nutrition,lack of recovery days and mindless repping in terms of muscle and physique. Calisthetics in terms of muscle ideally its just as good as weights but theres a roof to how big you can get which is a cavet for guys that wanna look like arnold, old stallone, frank zane, or the rock which i know for a fact majority of men dont wanna really look that muscular. With enough discipline, proper nutrition, progressive overload regardless of the method ANYTHING can work. The gym is better but calisthetics is an alternative way proving you dont need to go to the gym to get strong and in good shape. My point of bringing up gladiators, ancient warriors and prisoners and they got fit with minimal to no equiptment was to prove you dont got to be held down to a gym to workout. Anywhere and anything can work as long as you apply the principles just stated earlier.
@John David Santos on day off practice hand stands press ups balancing on hands.... might be good idea...
The number one purpose of doing exercise is for health benefits, it will boost the immune system, and in the long run it will prolong life. Really educational conversation, learned a lot.
Waiting for that workout collab fellas 💪
What a great day , the best collaboration ever.
Great interview. I especially liked the psychological tips.
This is the second calisthenic-related podcast I listened to featuring Dr. Mike. Absolutely amazing. Thanks a lot Daniel!
Since I started following all those recommendations with meso cycles, volume, intensity and so on I feel progression is slower than when I went for "do whatever you like" with a goal in mind, for example learning a skill.
Same here. But there is no going back now
After all those are only recommendations and not gospel. Maybe in 20 years strength athletes will laugh the the stuff we do today. Do what works for you
Hey Daniel love your podcast❤️
Please interview Josh Bryant he's a very talented coach and has a lot of experience in bodyweight- as well as weight training!
Thanks for doing this format in the calisthenics scene m8 💪
What is a good training strategy for military members? I guess the goal is more athletic and endurance and less about size and aesthetics....
So much good quality information in this. Will need a few re-listens.
Everyone has a different body shape that is true, so it is best to try different workouts until you actually find what workouts for your body first because i been lifting weights for 6months and still berly building muscle so dont compared to other body builder lifting heavy i dont care i lift 20 to 25 weights and im working my way up almost all of every body suffers from depression dont give up even if you go solo to tha gym
Such a good podcast. Resonated a lot to me as relative new gym goer in my 40s. I had a lot of local success in martial arts in my 20s, but would have really benefitted from strength and conditioning coaching outside of technique and sparring training. Resources like this really should help the next generation of sportsmen and sportswomen achieve higher goals in their chosen field.
What an amazing video to wake up to in the morning!
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ great presentation as always, Daniel!
The exercise montages are really spectacular!
Mike's knowledge is literally unparalleled.
Knowledge of literature sure he’s top tier. In terms of actual effective advice I think Alpha Destiny (Alexander Leonidas, this guy follows the literature a lot too even the way he talks has changed a lot over the years) and Bald Omni Man have him beat. I’d throw in Natural Hypertrophy as 3rd
@@KurokamiNajimi literature? Effective advice? Whatttt? You're over-complicating this, think his advice is pretty effective...
@@TheHYENA87 If you think we’re overcomplicating things then the comment of x person’s knowledge is amazing becomes moot because we’re not comparing it to anything
@@KurokamiNajimi Not we, you are.
@@TheHYENA87 If you say I’m overcomplicating things then you’re saying that about all of the people we’re talking about…you must be new to the legitimacy of being more detailed about your programming
daniel is an amazing listener. thank you for that.
Excellent interview!
Great conversation.
We need choices, but I still agree with the late Doug Brignole on your point at 18:00. We need choices but some exercises are not worth their risks.
Very hype for this podcast!
Dude those lateral raises looks BRUTAL im trying that today. Thanks guys great stuff as always
Love Dr mikes sense of humor
Best calisthenics video on RUclips regarding training with calisthenics vs weight
😂😂😂
@@real_talk8749 I guess you disagree lol we all can’t have the same agreements 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤣🤣
@@callmesupreme1533 dr mike wont say voldemorts name... its Mike Mentzer
I do calisthenics. I like being able to work out at home with minimal equipment. No, it won't get you huge, but just doing pushups, pullups, and sit ups is enough to make you really strong and look really good. If you have low body fat, you'll look plenty muscular. At least that's my experience doing dushups, pull ups, sit ups, weights with 20 lb dumbbells, and running. I don't feel the need to get any bigger.
Look at mike Tyson and he only did cahlistenics
@junkequation To each their own as a lifter I respect that every person doesn’t have to be huge to feel like they have a great physique
@@SparklingWater445Yeah this kid doesn't know what he's talking about lol. Only covers 5% of the work and rushes to conclusions like this.
Exactly what I dowith dios. Use 10 kg weight best every second week too. Cut, strong and 65 years old
This was a great convo, and that thumbnail is just perfect lol.
Amazing interview!
Also at 35:59 Mike training himself is so meta !
Fantastic pod fellas. Ima fan of both of yall. Great knowledge I'll use in my own training and in training others. Keep the knowledge coming boys 👍
Now I know why I don't listen to Dr Mike more, it's because him and I have a lot of similar thoughts about training. Which is exactly why I'm going to be listening him more from now on.
The rant Dr. Mike delivered on the guy in a Lamborghini - Pure Gold 💥
Holy cow, it finally happened! This is better than even the Power Rangers-TMNT crossover
As far as the calisthenics, I cut down body weight started doing more reps and when I started putting weight back on I was still banging out the same number, so very similar and opposite idea...and wasn't even the plan. Interesting to hear about how higher body fat protects joints, can't believe I didn't know or didn't remember that if I ever heard it. This one video is so comprehensive and informative..gold standard advice and education here
Spot on Mike, let those demons out on a bag... Or on a hill run... Keep your strength training zen with laser focus.
Thank you both, very inspiring. Have a merry Christmas and a wonderful new year!
love this guy, he was on a podcast episode i was listening to recently too, he knows his stuff! i have been doing calisthenics for a while now but have not seen much hypertrophy in my body personally and not as much strength gain as i thought i would have by now. Not sure whether that is because im female etc but ive recently started doing 1 rep max work eg, for my 1 rep max pull up, push up and dips...lets see what happens :)
1 rep max will build strength not hypertrophy. As they say in the podcast you should train in the 5-30rep range...and somewhere between 10-20sets per week per bodypart. Good luck 💪
@@usbsol ah thank you, aestheically im not too fussed about the lack of hypertrophy, but more about gaining strength. As you said and i also mentioned, this is probably best done with less reps and heavier weights. thank you, lets see how i go...currently injured and cant train atm :/
Sorry to hear about your injury - maybe this video can help you in your recuperation 🤞
ruclips.net/video/2s2CpDlbrNA/видео.html
This has so much great info!
Its just a shame Daniel can't riff a bit more when Dr Mike is more relaxed and making his jokes. Makes it seem more like a formal interview than a relaxed podcasts with 2 extremely knowledgeable guys
To be fair gaining mass really doesn't seem to be the point of doing calisthenics. Just from what I've gathered as I've been into it for a little while. There's something very satisfying about being able to control your body in a certain way and maintaining a more flexible, balanced, and athletic physique. It's kind of freeing in a sense, haha. But I think it's helpful having a perspective from bodybuilding as well, on understanding how to work muscles for pique strength and so on.
Well, I'm doing calisthenics to gains mass lol.
@@frog6054 okay! Let me know how it goes :)
I've gained some mass from gymnastics and calisthenics, but not a lot. Could just be my routines aren't the best. So let me know if you have an effective routine for building mass with calisthenics.
I use calisthetics in the 5 to 15 rep range, trying to build muscle. But I want to do handstand pushups and stuff like that. I was a bit bigger when I lifted so think supplementing with weights is a must for building muscle.
It can be contradictory because it's hard to do many moves unless you are as light as possible. Thick legs from doing squats won't help with the planche holds. So it's not that they can't gain mass but they don't really want to
I'VE WAITED FOR THIS FOR SO LONG YAAAAS
Hey Daniel, recently found your channel at it has been a blast ever since. I have a problem i hope you can help me with: I just bought gym rings, but when i do dips on them, my forearms get scuffed up by the friction against the ring itself. Do you have any tips to combat this problem?
Hello Nico, short answer: you're forearms will get use to it.
I do rings all the time, and in the begging I even got some bruises in my forearms and did not even know they were because of the rings, but now I don't have any and don't feel pain!
@@hectormndozer6330 Glad to hear that! How long did it take to get used to it?
Wear a long sleeved rash vest?
@@TheIncredibleFlyingSausage that was the first solution i came up with,but seeing all these guys on youtube doing them shirtless, i just wondered how they managed to do it
My skin eventually got thicker and rougher at the area, even my forearm’s hair became longer there
Yeah, I’m involving out of the therapy part and now I’m into it being a part of me. I’m feeling way better, it just fails, right.
A lot more of my life feels right.
The interviewer appeared immune to humour. How can this be achieved?
I dont think his humor is funny either
Oh no, he's multiplying in the comments.
Thank you both!
This is what danny devito would look like if he juiced
Terrible take
Yeah, and next time try listening to what he says.
@@nickthequick2326 I can do both
@@petermchugh9748Sam is overrated.
@nickthequick2326 I mean he does juice, he's open about that. Doesn't mean his advice is bad, he was into educated in it and into this industry before that from what I understand.
What an amazing pod cast. Love your content
For the people who use weights. Yes you can do low rep sets or high rep sets to gain muscle. You should be going to failure or when you know you can't get another rep on your own. The advantage of the lower rep sets is your bones will get stronger as you get stronger.
To me older lifters should be working on gaining and keeping strength for the rest of their lives.
I'd like to add that high rep sets are pretty good for adding blood flow to your joints, so it complements the bone strength pretty well as you age
@@nb4032 I may do a couple of 15 rep sets but that's before doing my heavy compound sets.
This is an excellent video. The advice at the end about narrowing focus on yourself is gold.
calisthenics is INSANELY GOOD for power to weight RATIO,its VERY HARD to grow after a while but people who got past that have insane power to weight ratio
the hardest thing to train are legs,witch you have to brute force trough hard exercises or an insane number of reps
@mariuscatalin5982 Which
@@hemi5.7awdpursuit5 pardon me?
This is a masterclass. 🙌🙏🏼🏆