Intel i9 12900k VS Ryzen 9 5950x - The Battle for the THRONE! [Creator Edition]
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- Which is the ULTIMATE 16-core Creator CPU in 2022? Intel i9 12900k or AMD Ryzen 5950x?
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0:00 Intro
0:38 Sponsored Segment
1:01 Power Draw/Consumption
2:00 Cooler Requirements
3:00 Test Setups
4:30 PBO power consumption
4:55 Cinebench R23
5:23 Geekbench 5
5:46 Blender
6:32 Adobe Photoshop
7:39 Adobe Lighroom Classic
8:34 Adobe Premiere Pro
10:42 Adobe After Effects... FAIL...
10:58 Davinci Resolve
12:09 Conclusion
12:56 Price Comparison
14:15 Which CPU next?
Did you notice the UPSIDE DOWN Intel i9 box??? 🙈🙈
You are creative !
You forgot to benchmark it upside down 🙂
The symbol for in distress unconscious signaling 😂🤣
No but I did notice my shed is being carried away by 90 mph winds
Hahaha!
Interesting results I'd like to see how the 1st gen AM5 chips do with single core performance when they release
I would like to see this done again but with OBS streaming on both systems while they run the benchmarks.
Really informative and content rich as usual, I love your Videos : )
Love it. Thanks!
Another fantastic video, and I love that you don't go down the fanboy route for either platform, you just present the data as it came to you. I expected that the Intel option would be ahead by a few percent in certain tasks, but it's the price point that genuinely surprised me. I'd always thought AMD was the way to go if you didn't have the budget for the Intel equivalent, very surprised to see the 12900k can be had for less than the 5950x...
It is cheaper because nobody is really buying those a lot, Did you actually see the test?, he is using a gen5 motherboard for the Intel side, ddr5 and you have to go for a bigger PSU, he went overkill on it, and on the AMD side he went lower 850W is the bare minimum for the system he used, and the ASUS pro art 570s is a really bad motherboard, I get he needs to make money and promote them, like the gygabyte aero( go msi if you want 570s btw, and this is coming from a asus fanboy).
since you are talking about budget, go ahead and pair that 12 gen CPU + motherboard + DDR5 ram (just those 64gb is a lot more than the 5950x). You have to see it as a whole, and the test is not really fair given what he is using for intel, if he uses a ddr4 motherboard and regular ddr4 3600 for the intel, a 240mm aio, and a 850W, guess that would be funny.
Keep in mind that the 5950X came competing with the 10 series intel, and they had to go up 2 generations to come close. Can't wait for AMD's next reveal.
@@HaStUrGhOsT ddr4 you lose like 1% performance... ram rarely affects r23 scores as well...
@@HaStUrGhOsT Bro speaking as if DDR5 did a lot
@@Girldont-ib6vw Bro commenting as he has any idea about what he is saying
@@HaStUrGhOsT - To be honest, I didn't clock on to those details. Either way, we've got some serious competition between the big boys again, and with Intel joining the fray this can only be good news for us as consumers in the end, regardless which brand we fly the flag for, because it's this kind of competition that drives innovation and the kind of product choice we're currently seeing from all sides. I say bring it on!
thx for the details
Another really good video, thank you.
10:12 --- When cogitating upon the ontology of sundry DDRs (and there are many as already enumerated by others here in the comments), cordially advise for the next benchmarking that thoust forswear locutory misadventures like, "Baxxs to the wall." In the alternative, gently suggest, "Alls to the wall." You will discover that you will be building future goodwill (and staying power) in your video productions by keeping *ALL* things clean cut.
Kindest regards, friends and neighbors.
Great rivew. keep up the good work.
Great video. I love your videos. Can we please have a comparison between Ryzen 5950X and Intel Core i7 12700K?
Seconded
@@sergio3770 Thirded
Hello sir, comparison is good but in my opinion there is a slight possibility that Intel has advantage of 360mm AIO over NH D15 for 5950x. If you want to compare side by side then my suggestion is use exact same cooling solution, same case, same fan orientation. 😅
Believe the 5950x never passed 75c with that cooler. It pulls only 130w ish when full load. ;) NH-D15 is plenty for that. Have a look at the x570 proart build in the end when I'm stresstesting it ;)
Also the use of dual channel RAM for AMD vs quad channel for intel. There is a slight bias here.
@@theTechNotice Is it possible that the AMD is slower in PBO because of the cooler? Was it thermal throttling in PBO? I find it very strange that the AMD is slower in PBO in some benchmarks and faster at 130W (especially in multi threaded benchmarks). This to me suggests a high probability of thermal throttling during your benchmarking.
@Kautilya Pandey both systems are dual channel
@@BreakingDimes One of the first things you might encounter with Alder Lake is that CPU-Z will indicate that you have a four channel memory controller (Quad Channel). Until now, this has been the privilege of Threadrippers or Intel X99/X299 platforms and similar hardware. Such reporting is not incorrect, because every DDR5 module behaves as two independent channels (or logical channels) from the perspective of the memory controller. While in the case of DDR4 a single module behaves as a single 64bit channel, in the case of DDR5 a change has been conducted whereby a module has been split into two 32bit channels. With two modules you therefore have four logical channels with 32bit width each.
From the point of view of the theoretical bandwidth there is no actual change, the benefit of two “pseudo channels” within a single module rests on their ability to support two independent accesses at the same time. So despite the theoretical bandwidth not being changed, it becomes possible to yield a higher practically achievable bandwidth and thereby a higher performance out of that same theoretical potential
So yeah, if to truly compare only CPU's the video creator must have used an alder lake DDR4 board with 4 sticks of RAM and the same for AMD, same speed and timings.
It's about reducing external variables, because here technically DDR4 and 5 are also on test.
DDR5 is almost impossible to find right now in the market.
Nice informative video as usual ! Yes a DDR4 comparaison would be very appreciated Sir 🙏
Noted
@@theTechNotice why dont you max out the ryzen processor with 128 gig vs the intel with 64 gig
When DDR4 came out it was slow and ditto with DDR3 and so on. Keep in mind DDR5 will eventually be 8500 MHz. Hopefully the DDR5-7200 standard will be coming soon.
I've the ryzen cpu and will turn off PBO to see how it works with photo software etc. thanx for the video
What intel board would you use for DDR 4 memory?
Very good info. As a 3D, motion graphics creator, I will have to go with AMD. Thanks for the great video!
can you compare 12700k vs 5900x and 12600k vs 5800x if possible:)
I just bought a 5950x. Can’t wait to use it.
Useful test :)
Since I'm building a workstation for Blender (and other things), it's the 5950x, for me. I might get it tomorrow, prices have gone down and I bet they'll go up again, once the Ryzen 7000 is out. As for Photoshop or video editing, I doubt the average user could see any differences in performance between chips. They seem to be both great pieces of hardware.
I don't think we can build a bad system with anything 3000 series up AMD or 12th Gen Intel. All are great.
I have been tempted to pick up a 5950x to upgrade from my 3900x but to be honest I doubt it would be worth the money for Lightroom and PS work.
No it wont be worth it
I would suggest holding on to your cpu because it's close before amd announces their new line up
@@danielortiz747 he Will need a new motherboard and he don't want that probably that's why he will get 5000 series
3900x is and wo be overkill for many more years
@@Birdman._. Yeah as impressive as the 7000 series is it would cost too much to upgrade the board, RAM and CPU and for 30-40% gain? Hard to justify with the 3900x doing so well.
I guess PBO benefits are slim. Looks like I'll be disabling it since I'm not rendering that often.
You used a air cooling for AMD and water cooling for intel. Do you think that might be the reason why the AMD system is slower in PBO? It would have been best if you used the same cooler for both, if you want to user the higher power setting for AMD to come close to the intel power draw.
I doubt it since I wanted to make sure I'm not thermal throttling and ran the AMD system side panel off so pretty much open air test bench. The AMD chip is much easier to cool ;)
@@theTechNotice "I'm comparing apples to oranges here, but the result will be fair." Source: "trust me, bro, I'm an expert."
Honestly, in any real-world senario where your job is to *objectively* test one piece of equipment against another, you would be fired within a couple of weeks for the setups you've chosen here.
Only RUclips makes the opinions of an incompetent (at best, paid-off at worst) clown possible 🤦♂️
Better cool on the 12900k will get better performance against 5950x in long rendering task? Great video
Can anyone say which one to go with either i9 12900k or 5950x
Purpose : Graphic designing...
Dang! After effects was the only thing I'm interested from these tests and it has no data 😂. Good job on the rest like always man
Honestly drives me mad that! weeks and weeks and weeks worth of data - USELESS! :)
After affects eats CPU GPU RAM and anything inside a PC like crazy. Adobe needs to optimize it. AE is the google chrome of Adobe ha!
What´s missing here is DDR4/DDR5 2+ sticks problems on Intel. 4x32 you will more likely run into problems. With Ryzen you dont. (Actually the Ryzen memory controller likes 4 sticks more). Just my 2c... But VERY nice comparison, helped me alot!
Definitely! I've gone into the 4x ddr5 sticks problem in another video.
But would've been nice to add ddr4 stats for Intel as well.. :)
How much is the Intel motherboard?;
Currently using proxies for 4k 8 bit 4:2:0 from Sony a7iii in Premiere Pro with Ryzen 5950X + Nvidia 3080. Would playback and scrubbing be as smooth using Intel 12900K + 3080 and no proxies?
Proxies is always smoother. But full rez playback would be much better on the 12900k.
11:14 I like to run my 5900X at 95 watt limit. Best balance of noise, power usage and energy cost (scary)
Could you add affinity suite to your benchmark, I fell they really have a better performance on every cpu. Am just saying
You should do a vid on monitors for video editing.
😉👍
yes i agree 12900K DDR4-based would be a good idea. Also the questions is the powerdraw, as energy is not getting cheaper. and perhaps checking with a different GPU as the 3090 overrules all price differences and powerdraw differences. if the GPU is drawing allready 400-500W a powerdraw difference of 40W at CPU is from no interest.
6950xt draws 350w while performs the same
they should have a triangle on the box so you can show it the right way
As far as price, if you’re lucky enough to live by a Microcenter the 12900k is $499. Best Buy will also price match - at least they did for me.
No way that's crazy!
Isn't the MSRP for the 12900K $589 - $600?
@@gabgabgab999 got mine today for 499
550 for the 5950X from what I saw on the site.
A properly functioning PBO increases performance and energy consumption, it is obvious and logical. So how did you run a PBO that reduces performance with more power??? It is illogical, it is an obvious error. How can you provide results for a failed set?
When you learn overclocking and in general how things work together you can realize power draw doesn't mean better performance, there is always a "sweet spot" these are not spinning wheels, this is a complex system made of many subsystems and everything has to work at the same time and if something runs out of sync then can mess up the entire operation
The DDR 4 comparison would be nice to see, but I am not sure it really makes much sense? The reason being if I shell out the money for an i9 12900k and pair it with a medium to high-end motherboard, I wouldn't get a DDR 4 motherboard. Especially if I am getting the i9 12900k for content creation. And for me the only reason I can justify getting an i9 12900K would be for content creation.
Yeah agreed, 12900k DDR4 only makes sense at the lower end of the mobo spectrum, although as soon as you get into more enthusiast boards they're already DDR5 only. It comes down to whether or not you want to/can wait for DDR5 prices to normalize before building a system. Right now DDR4/Intel makes sense if you were already looking at the 5950x - there is no upgrade path for it or DDR4/Intel, but the system may have use value for the coming months that overrides that. I'm interested to see a DDR4 Intel vs DDR4 AMD test, still.
@@paolo11x11 All good points, but I am referring to content creation level systems only. Initially both the DDR5 motherboards and RAM were both very high, but now I can get a DDR 5 motherboard for the same price as the AMD DDR 4 motherboard. So after seeing this review, I will go with the Intel 12900k even if I can only afford 2 instead of 4 RAM modules at first. I have already seen plenty of reviews of what the lower end Intel CPUs can do with DDR 4. But like I said before if I get an Intel 12900K I would be getting it for content creation. And content creation was the whole point of this review.
Dual 420 x-flow rads. That should be sufficient to tame the 12900k & a GPU in my studio.
The proArt Mobos are about equal expensive. For the 100€ difference you get a better built board( I had both) and pcie5.
Hmm, wonder if I can plug that Ryzen into my 6yr old ddr3 board🤔
Great test and info as always!
Could just be me but wouldn't a comparison use the same components as much as possible? only things that are the same is videocard and ssd. It's basically apples and peers.
Im also wondering if the pbo preformance is reduced because of a smaller psu wattage and different cooling.
No mention on total power draw when the system is pushed. Would like to see that in future comparison thou.
The only thing that would change with the components would be the motherboards. All other hardware should stay the same.
what pbo mean ?
would appreciate v-ray benchmarks in the future
Coming up! :)
@@theTechNotice nice! definitely subbed! really like that this channel is for creators and not gamers.
I wonder how good a 12700 would be for creators since it is non OC'able and the frecuencies are much lower across all cores vs 12700K (up to 900mhz slower clock E-core vs E-core & up to 1500mhz slower clock P-Core vs P-Core).
Review filmed, just editing! :)
@@theTechNotice 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
4.9Ghz is enough for anything just enable turbo boost to 4ghz or 3.5ghz smtng and ur good
I would like to have seen After Effects in the benchmarking. Next time?
Yeah, for sure! The after effects data is getting there.
For the Ryzen 5950x you should have used an Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 rev 4 with the offset brackets way better cooling.
I am not a content creator, but I do many tests running multiple virtual machines in HyperV, so the 5950X is my preferred choice because of its 16-cores 32 threads capability.
intel fan boy hahahaha
@@richardlyman2961 What?
5900x vs 12700k Which Processor suitable 3d animation video Create.
Both good, but 12700k is better ;)
i love the CPU cooler, i have the same one!
Thank you for this helpful info. Unfortunately, this is not a fair comparision. The 12900k is using DDR5 ram, while the 5950x is using DDR4. Puget systems has showed this makes a significant difference.
If you wanted 'fair comparison' then we should match clock speeds, power draw, cache.... as you can see it will never be a fair comparison, yet why would you 'cripple' the newer chip by running older ram if it can support newer RAM?
It's like buying a car with launch control, yet not using it for 0-60 time, why not use the technology if it can do that? 🤔
At the same time a lot of people at the moment would like to save some money on RAM hence going with ddr4. But I guess that's another point. :)
@@theTechNotice True, those things would effect results, but most creators will run their chips stock, out of the box. The ram is a significant factor that affects price point, and equipment needed. It makes the comparision a bit more apples to oranges, in my opinion.
DDR4 vs DDR5 has little input as many have benchmarked it. The 5950X has more cache than the 12900K? Is that fair?
something is not right with the PBO results you're getting
🤔 any ideas what's going on?
@@theTechNotice My Ryzen 5950x using PBO hits over 5ghz air cooled (5.1 ghz highest). Never had to mess with anything. noticed a big improvement in cyberpunk 2077 right away after switching from a Ryzen9 3950x using same motherboard and graphics card in 4k (RTX 2070). Highest cpu tempt in game is around 76 C at the most. Not trying to say its the superior cpu its just thats my experience with it so far. Installed it yesterday.
5950x or i9 12900 K good for Deep Learning projects
the 5950x is 530 € now in germany, should I buy it or wait for the 5800x3D ?
you're debating a 16 core vs an 8 core? wake up dude and get the 16 core.
Thanks for the informative video, I wiil be curious To see the 12900k DDR4 version. I actually use DDR4 with my i9 and I get in Cinebench 23 a ascore of 27400 more or less ( no OC ) cheers
After Effects? Intel i9 12900k or Ryzen 9 5950x?
I have both systems. In some AE projects, both Intel and AMD are pretty much equal. (AMD slower by 20 sec). And other projects, Intel is much faster. It's weird. 🤷
3600....CL18 on the AMD? Against DDR5?????? Try it with state-of-the-art 3600 CL14
Why NEVER include music production test? :)
Which tests would you like to see? :)
@@theTechNotice Personally I wanna see how many fx plugins they can run in an audio program like reaper. Audio is very hard because its hard to parallel work to different cores as many things need to be done and processed in a specific order from top to bottom, single core performance is everything there
for creator, if you worried about heat from 12900k, then just buy 12900/12900t almost 110euro cheaper :D 12900t has 35watt tdp with uhd 770
Waiting for new line ups of AMD ryzen
My 5950x single core and multicore benchmarks are wayyyy lower than these 😟 what could be the cause?
RAM speed, memory channeling, CPU cooling can be the reason.
Agreed with laszio, also some chips are sloggtly slower, but not WAYYY slower, so silicon lottery shouldn't be a huge contributor.
sounds like your CPU is throttling...
If your temperatures are too hot ( use coretemp to monitor your temps), turn off PBO in bios and use Clock Tuner for Ryzen.
I lowered my temps by 15-20 Celsius degrees with this program with no loss in performance
@@theTechNotice @laszlo zsurka @No Commentary
Thank you for your replies.
My cpu idles at 47 - 55 degrees celcius. Not ideal but I have heard the cpu runs hot and admittingly I have a hot case, the original Phanteks Enthoo tg.
On Premiere Pro it 'idles' at 70-73 degrees and shoots up to 83 on exports.
My pc specs are:
5950x
evga ftw3 rtx 3090
G.Skill Trident Z Neo 64gb (4x16gb) 3600 Cl 14
Evga supernova 850w psu
Asus Proart creator x570 wi-fi motherboard
OS drive is Samsung 960 EVO m.2 500gb pcie express 3
Windows 11
I checked PBO and it was on auto, which seems to be the same as disabled. But I disabled it anyways to test and no difference. I have also tried running my RAM without the xmp profile and on/off there seems to be no difference.
My RAM is very pointlessly crazy specs at 3600 and 14 timings. It is also not on the QVL list for this motherboard. Unfortunately Asus released their qvl list after I got everything.
I have been frustrated because after all the money I put into this system it has had unstable issues and I do not know how to single out a single piece of hardware.
Premiere Pro runs very sluggish, scrolling the timeline is laggy, clicking play I always have to wait a couple of seconds for video preview to play, and Premiere constantly freezes up (without even a crash window) so I am constantly panic-saving during edits and using task manager to force quit.
My pc in general feels very unstable. Sometimes on power on the monitor never gets signal, staying black screen so I have to force restart. Sometimes on shutdown the monitor turns black and the pc never turns off. Windows explorer and the taskbar is very glitchy as sometimes it freezes or if I go into Premiere Pro I cannot click on another folder or window and instead have to use alt-tab. I have reinstalled windows a bunch of times to see if it was software issues, but considering it is recurring it must be hardware.
My old Windows 10 Intel system also had RAM that was not on the qvl list but as long as I ran it stock without xmp profile the system ran smoothly. With xmp on the system did run sluggish and crash. Thing is how do I know if ram is the issue for this current system. I do not know much about memory channeling or how to test if this is the issue with my ram kit.
At first I thought of switching to an iMac so that I don't have to troubleshoot so much but now I am thinking I will do a 12900K build instead with a Fractal Torrent Case.
Please let me know any tips or knowledge on how to test for which specific hardware(s) is causing issues. :(
Thank you
run the 5950x tests paired with an RX 6900 XT
My 5900x is at 189W peak.... 13,000 multicore score on cinebench r22 so I'm happy
Why did you use 3600 MHz RAM for the 5950x if its cap is 3200 Mhz?
That's just official support. You can run higher
@@BreakingDimes won’t there be stability issues tho?
@@MrInterpriser No... memory controllers can do a lot higher than their stock support.
i am wondering how much intel pay you
Since DDR5 is scarce and overpriced, the DDR4 scores mean more at least for now. Thanks, ML
in not on the whole RYZEN vs INTEL fandom.. even though its literally a dead topic to bring up but im glad AMD finally woke up Intel.. now we can have ourselves a good CPU match.. and we are the beneficiaries!!!
Ok... love the numbers but really... real world differences? If this is a case of having to wait an extra 257 milliseconds.... doubt I'll notice.
I am curious why intel is cheaper than AMD because now is impossible to find the same price and what is interesting intel is almost 15% more expensive now (at least in Poland). IMO Ryzen is better choice especially if Intel's users are suffering on some issues with its platform and how it's generaly work.
Hahha love the box struggle
I'm looking at getting the 5950x to trade with someone that wants a RX 6800 XT that I have that's collecting dust.
Pbo just generates ludicrous amounts of gear
Now intel crown is back
Not convinced by the methodology for this comparison. Am I right in saying you also used 4 sticks of RAM in the Intel config but only 2 in the AMD config? This is despite it being shown that 4 sticks of RAM can improve performance on Ryzen (by up to 10%), and with the Intel config using a later generation memory technology to make it even harder to make a reasonable comparison. How much do the 4 sticks of DDR5 cost compared to the 2 sticks of DDR4? I think you need to do some work on your testing processes but interesting video despite that.
Another interesting factoid for the comparo: the AMD chip is a full year older than the Intel.
So... You are summerizing that 12th gen i9 is about 15% better overall combined with ddr5
more like 10% and less
Depend of graphic card. Put AMD RTX 6800 XT and 5950 x had a better score.
Intel fans when their 1KW processor beats 130W Ryzen😎😎😎🤓🤓
5950x 1 year older. Also it could have defects - random reboots. Intel has overheat and amd has defects. RMA could solve this.
I'm sorry but the presentation of this data is a mess... don't change the reference if 12 gen is slower on a benchmark it's below 100% simple. Also why some benchmarks were not run with PBO enabled. I know you don't work for me or anything... but that's again breaking your data presentation... sometimes it's a CPU using 220-240W vs another using 200W and in some instances hindered by the 130W power limit... it makes you look biased witch I know you aren't.
I never changed the reference here, reference was always 5950x 'stock' :)
i didn´t... what¿?
nice compare this two
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A bit misleading title, the video is focused towards creators but most of the benchmarks are lightly threaded or single threaded, there is only one true rendering benchmark and no AI/compression decompression benchmarks.
Ofcourse intel has 10 percent higher IPC and slightly higher clocks but Ryzen can hold its own with 16 true hyperthreaded high performance cores.
Also, please use the same AIO for both and at least 4000mhz cl 16 ram for Ryzen as it's quite dependant upon ram speed and timings along with thermal threshold availability for boosting, regardless of the peak temperature. Intel is on DDR5, we should be fair in other components used to reduce external variables as much as possible.
One more thing which happens to be unnoticed and a mistake at creators part, the creator is running quad channel RAM for intel and dual channel for AMD. This should not be the case.
FYI it's not quad channel, it's dual channel on both systems. 12th gen doesn't support quad channel. So having 4 vs 2 sticks of the same capacity doesn't make a difference, maybe slight strain on the memory controller, but nothing to worry about. In my testing 4 vs 2 sticks run within the margin of error of difference.
@@theTechNotice One of the first things you might encounter with Alder Lake is that CPU-Z will indicate that you have a four channel memory controller (Quad Channel). Until now, this has been the privilege of Threadrippers or Intel X99/X299 platforms and similar hardware. Such reporting is not incorrect, because every DDR5 module behaves as two independent channels (or logical channels) from the perspective of the memory controller. While in the case of DDR4 a single module behaves as a single 64bit channel, in the case of DDR5 a change has been conducted whereby a module has been split into two 32bit channels. With two modules you therefore have four logical channels with 32bit width each.
From the point of view of the theoretical bandwidth there is no actual change, the benefit of two “pseudo channels” within a single module rests on their ability to support two independent accesses at the same time. So despite the theoretical bandwidth not being changed, it becomes possible to yield a higher practically achievable bandwidth and thereby a higher performance out of that same theoretical potential.
If we were only comparing CPU's please reduce other variables as much as you can, the same speed and timing DDR4 modules must be used for testing. We shouldn't be comparing DDR5 to 4 as surely 5 is better and faster, but also very hard to buy right now. And if alder lake supports DDR4 why not to reduce external variables, it's just about obtaining a Z690 DDR4 MB.
@@theTechNotice i9 could be faster, sure, Intel has made good strides, but when you use different components for cooling (air cooler for Ryzen and a 360mm 6 fans rad for i9) and next gen memory for i9, you are giving unfair advantage in a CPU comparison.
I understand that alder lake supports these features so you should give them a try, however when someone is watching i9 vs r9 they are more interested in just the CPU's not the memory as ofcourse they know DDR5>DDR4.
I would have preferred to see an IPC comparison and clock speed charts as well, which is important for CPU comparison videos.
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Actually, the 5950X has been coming down. XD ($550)
often seeing $500 now
Just replaced my 3950x with a 5950x, and I notice the difference.
There is news intel procesor called 6! Xd
The 12900K is better! We knew this.
just got my 5950x (its shipped), yikes...
I'm still done with intel
Gaming. Intel takes by a bit. Rest 5950x any day.
Probably but my 5950x hits over 5 ghz and I've noticed a massive improvement from my 3950x. Its air cooled too and never hit over 80 C in the process. Really anything higher than that is really just for bragging rights. you probably will not see or feel any difference in the game your playing anything higher then 5ghz. At that point the bottleneck is your graphics card.
Terrible display of data to discern the results.
Thanks for the feedback, would you mind explaining how you reached that conclusion? :)
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i have 29500 points in r23 with 160w consumption on my 5950x with manual settings without PBO
What are your manual setting I also just bought a 5950x but thinking of returning, runs too hot unless I manual overclock to 4.2ghz and undervolt (1.075v), then I get a 27,000 score in cinebench r23
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the new AMD CPU coming in Q3 of 2022 will beat intel's 12th gen!
In games , in rendering and everything. i just hope so that they will consume less watts and cost a bit less
Can't wait! :)
And Intel's 13th gen (Raptor Lake) this fall will beat the new Ryzen. ;)
Ryzen all day no extra couler when Intel you need+360 aio.
Intel wins bc ppl with lots of money don’t care about 💵
I'm using a 3900x with 3 360 rads in a custom loop that cools a 6900xt and an nvme drive on an msi x570s ek carbon x..... What were you saying about money and Intel again?
@@phillysupra Something about "a fool and his money are soon parted".
@@Mr1Tanker yeah I know I overspend but at the time (and still now) I can't get a hold of a ps5. So I built a system better than one. Plus I crypto mine and video edit and frankly I have the money to do these kinds of builds because I saved my money when I was younger.
I'm wit u when u right! I need worry free COOL, no AIO, and I need room for my upgrade path with a 760w psu. Big Larry got me thinkin, I like the info; but n the balance, considering performance, efficiency, and budget, i just don't see how I'll benefit with this super hot power hog unless i want to upgrade the psu i already bought, lol...to which the budget says no bueno.
As someone who used both extensively over the past 2 years, I can guarantee you that Ryzen is absolutely Bullshit.
I'm not an Intel fanboy or anything (Wouldn't have purchased a Ryzen otherwise), just sharing my objective experience.
Ryzen gives worse thermal reading, voltage fluctuations and weird behavior from your PC. What do I mean by weird? Mouse lagging for no reason, only to never happen again. Weird keyboard behaviors, crashes and generally giving a worse performance.
Note that I used the same hardware (Except for the MB and Processor) and software (Used the same HDD without reinstalling windows) and saw this stark difference! It's like AMD doesn't even test their hardware for stability and just ship it off to the customers!
Been using an amd ryzen 9 3950x since 2020 and never had any of the problems you had. Sounds more like a motherboard driver issue. Did you ever update your BIOS? That's probably your problem.
@@michaelmichaelagnew8503 I've actually worked in the IT sector for a multi billion dollar company for three years and been in the IT for 10 years. Not trying to brag or anything, but I kinda know what I'm doing. And trust me, I've tried everything to fix this.
More fans to manage cooling (There's no doubt that wraith stealth's stock cooling is bullshit. Again, their testing is lacking). Windows reinstallation. Overclocking, underclocking. Changing RAM. Changing GPU. Updating BIOS. Nothing makes a difference.
Now, if it was consistently showing an issue, it would've been easier to solve. But the issues occur, never to show up again. As if there's a ghost inside. I've had similar complaints from people in my company as well, but they couldn't replicate it.
Try it yourself as well, if you have the tools. Thermals, wattage, everything is off the charts in AMD. I've personally used and seen people use an intel processor for over 10 years (seen people use it for over 20 years). Apart from being backdated, the processor worked fine. Never heard anyone claim the same for AMD.
Just pasting on more cores for less price doesn't really amount to a better processor. Which is clearly apparent in this video too.
AMD GPUs on the other hand, are hardy and robust. Again, I don't have a bias towards one or the other. Used both NVidia and AMD. While NVidia gives better performance, AMD has better stability, thermals and bang for the buck when it comes to GPUs (Used 5 different NVidia cards and 5 AMD cards personally, since 1992).
@@mr.diontoahmed1134 Wait which AMD chips are we talking here? In the IT world your dealing with servers most likely right? so threadrippers and the epic cpu? In that case your probably right they get hot but they are also work horses. If this is so Intel is the exact same.
I'm talking about the ryzen chips you use for home use. PC builds that you use them for, like Professional jobs you can usually do at home. Graphic design and other graphic intensive work from home jobs.
I'm very sure Intel would work just as well both run hot under such loads.
No one uses old AMD chips from 10 years ago in servers. Don't know if they even existed and if they did they probably sucked compared to Intel. Only AMD server chips I would use would be the threadrippers and epic processors that came out 3 years ago or earlier. They have been giving intel a run for their money processing wise. Intel is so entrenched in that market and its the safe bet, being most companies will stick with Intel regardless.
Edit: Sorry my grammar sucks been up for 24 hours because I've been sick so not thinking straight.