This scooter is the same weight as the Emove cruiser but with a medium battery instead of a large battery like the cruisers 1500wh battery. I definitely think they should’ve added more battery cells to match the cruisers battery. That would’ve been a great choice and made this scooter a higher quality alternative to the cruiser.
Cruiser is hard to beat in the value/spec Dept but this is just a newer alternative. Most people commute 5 miles a day so battery is not a concern for the masses! -Vosk
This is an excellent review. The Vista checks off everything as a long-haul electric scooter when it comes time for me to purchase. Thanks Rider Guide.
I love this a lot! This is by far the best scooter I’ve ever seen. My friend has one and let’s me ride it sometimes. So glad you did a video about this.
Have had a 2 Fluid Freeride Horizons for several years and they have treated us well. This looks like it might be a good upgrade from the Horizons. Nice to have something with a little more range and speed with improved safety options.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide One thing I never see regarding solid tire scooters is how long the tires last and how hard is it to replace them. Everything I've see is that it is extremely difficult to remove and install a new solid tire. Anyone tired successfully?
I've hit 2000 miles on the horizon, and the solid rear tire is still holding up, but I'm guessing at 3000, I have to change it. It does look extremely difficult to change the rear tire, I would probably go to a fluid store in NYC and change both tire. I've recently upgraded to a high power electric scooter from minimotor but still ride horizon f9r short distance.
THANKS FOR MAKING THIS REVIEW! I'm so exited to get my vista, coming from a horizon with over 1000 miles on it, this will be 6000 times better! thank you for making an awesome review!
yo how are you liking the vista? I have a horizon with a dying battery and am thinking of upgrading to the vista instead of replacing the battery, but want to hear a fellow horizon owner's thoughts on the vista. The range in particular worries me
@@CTEMmm the range is decent considering the weight of the scooter, the vista is not too bad by the looks of it in terms of range. I have yet to receive the scooter so your gunna have to wait for an honest review, because Rg’s review shows absolutely nothing wrong with the scooter by the looks of it, there’s no way it’s a perfect scooter.
@@CTEMmm I also think the main change with the scooter is the weight of it, it seems much less maneuverable then the horizon, I’m able to do some ridiculous tricks with the horizon I have currently and I definitely won’t be able to do that with this one
@@CTEMmm ok so I love the thing, there are 5 things that aren't the best with it though, the rear brake rotor is always really squeaky, for me something is rattling inside the front screen and the front suspension fork has some play in it. Also the rear suspension makes a little noise when compressing and uncompressing, and the throttle is basically impossible to modulate under the max speed of the gear your in. other than that its fine. Plenty of power compared to the horizon.
Bought a ariel rider kepler e-bike in February 2023 for getting too and from work, but the places i work have me stash it in annoying places. So thinking of getting a scooter to get too from and work while maintaining keplers 30mph and 40-45 mile range. This fluid vista should do quite nicely
As a long time scooter commuter (i was a true early adopter 9 years ago :) any commuter has to consider a Uscooter GT- only draw back is the limited speed - their fold down handles are sooo clutch - wish I could fuse a Uscooter GT and an Emove Cruiser
Good scoot, that cock pit is sweet! My Pegasus just died, it's probably the controller that kicked the bucket. Commuted on it for over a year and a half. 1300 miles on it. 😢
I'm looking at the Vista and the new emove cruiser s, I know there are pros and cons with both. I'm 6'1 200lbs and I've heard that the handlebar height on a cruiser is kind of short? I've also heard the cruiser is notorious for having bolts and screws come loose and/or break? The Vista seems pretty solidly built and durable, but doesn't have the range of the cruiser. I wouldn't be using it for a commuting, rather just joyriding around my neighborhood and whatnot. Any recommendations between the two scooters?
They are both very solid! Cruiser has better range but vista is a newer design. You honestly can’t go wrong with either. You can use code RIDERGUIDE50 to get $50 off each one.
Its certainly interesting. Makes sense as a commuter choice for shorter commutes. I do question that tiny kick plate. Am i the only one that likes a nice big angle back there for my foot? Maybe its my skateboarding background
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide also my Wolf Warrior X Pro when I got it a few weeks ago it was going over 40 mph it won't go up to 45 mph any reasons for why it won't do it???
Please i need help. 🙏 Im confused on 3. The vista, the mantis v2 and the warrior x. Im leaning more on the vista for what looks like less issuses reported on reviews and forums and that is cheaper is a plus. Iv seen alot of issues reported with the fluid v2 and warrior x. Please help? Iv seen every video possible. And im still on the fence. What are your recommendation and thoughts? Also to point out, i live in miami near a fluid store.
Appreciate the review, but im glad i went with rovoron kullter luxury. Its only 8 pounds more heavier and $900 more expensive. But i get 31.5ah lg 21700 battery( more than double) and i get about 40 miles with high speed run. 45mph top speed Awesome lighting Dual hydraulic break Finger throttle which i actually prefer. I was seriously considering this scooter since ive had fluid horizon from fluid free ride and its been very good for last 2 years at 3000km and still running. But i can totally see this model doing well for them.
Like the scooter, I’m confused why multiple scooter manufacturers choose white cable tubing versus black on a black scooter. For this reason alone I’m turned off from buying it. I guess they cant actually secure the tubing so it’s not even visible.
Looks nice, but i would love a longer batttery range like emove cruiser. They could have made it to compete with the emove cruiser. I'll take this any day.
Love the design. Hate the weight. I think I'd want more speed from 60v. Maybe they should offer more powerful motors as an option, but that would probably mean a heavier battery.
Believe it or not, if you are a little ballsy you can get the scooter to do some crazy things, like jumping, wheelies, and really fast riding on trails, doing all these things when i ride the scooter feels really stable. Just do soft steering and leaning motions in loose sand and wet pavement
What is the app that you use for the ambient lighting and speed controls? I contacted fluid and they said there is no available app out yet for the scooter
Great review. A lot to like about this scooter. As you mentioned at the beginning, affordability is subjective... so I totally disagree that $1000-$1500 is the range that would be considered budget/mid-range/or "affordable". You close with "Its reasonable price"... uh no. Definitely not. Lots of great bargain scooters in the $450-$750 range that get the job done. I'm not a fan of solid tires, but I agree with your comments as to why a person might prefer solid tires. Riding over loose gravel or rocks with pneumatic tires could be a problem, and with solid tires it's definitely even more of a problem. Same goes for wet surfaces. I'll gladly fix flats and in-between enjoy a more comfortable and safer ride. One would think that the real world range would be a bit better, but it's not bad at all. Still, I can buy less expensive scooters that get that range or more expensive that get more + better features. If this scooter was around the $750 price point I'd say it was a decent option. For its current price, I'd tell people to consider other choices.
for riding on wet, muddy, smooth surfaces, ride with caution. as I've not crashed with it despite basically racing it on wet pavement, it has good grip. But like anything with wheels it has a limit, just ride with a gradual motion so you can feel how the tires grip onto the road.
I want to know 1. how much it weighs 2. Does it fit in my car for my commute 3. How does it manage hills (we don’t all live on flat land) 4. How much does it cost. 10mph for hill climbing is a bit poor to me.
if you ride on smooth roads the scooter is silky smooth, I also like a rougher ride and like to push the thing to its limit before it slides out from under me lol
I agree, if the scooter goes 30mph it should have hydraulic brakes. Most e-bikes that go 28 mph have hydraulic brakes so Escooters should too. Only Apollo gets a pass because they developed fantastic ebrake technology that’s similar to eucs in terms of stopping power.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide No more then 40lbs I have a uscooters GT SE and am very happy but I am always looking for what is next. I keep an eye on you guys, you are the best scooter reviews Thanks!
Check out the Fluid Vista geni.us/FluidVista?track=ytr Let us know what you think of the scooter in the comments👇🏻code RIDERGUIDE50 for $50 off!
This scooter is the same weight as the Emove cruiser but with a medium battery instead of a large battery like the cruisers 1500wh battery. I definitely think they should’ve added more battery cells to match the cruisers battery. That would’ve been a great choice and made this scooter a higher quality alternative to the cruiser.
Cruiser is hard to beat in the value/spec Dept but this is just a newer alternative. Most people commute 5 miles a day so battery is not a concern for the masses! -Vosk
I want solid tires. Tired of dealing with flats
This is an excellent review. The Vista checks off everything as a long-haul electric scooter when it comes time for me to purchase. Thanks Rider Guide.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Paul the goat
I love this a lot! This is by far the best scooter I’ve ever seen. My friend has one and let’s me ride it sometimes. So glad you did a video about this.
Awesome! Glad you guys are enjoying it. -Vosk
Lol. I guess you haven’t seen very many scooters. 😂
Have had a 2 Fluid Freeride Horizons for several years and they have treated us well. This looks like it might be a good upgrade from the Horizons. Nice to have something with a little more range and speed with improved safety options.
Yes it’s def a upgrade! You can use code RIDERGUIDE50 for $50 off your purchase if you’d like. -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide One thing I never see regarding solid tire scooters is how long the tires last and how hard is it to replace them. Everything I've see is that it is extremely difficult to remove and install a new solid tire. Anyone tired successfully?
@@timdouglas6159great question! Following this thread, hopefully somebody knows…
I've hit 2000 miles on the horizon, and the solid rear tire is still holding up, but I'm guessing at 3000, I have to change it. It does look extremely difficult to change the rear tire, I would probably go to a fluid store in NYC and change both tire. I've recently upgraded to a high power electric scooter from minimotor but still ride horizon f9r short distance.
THANKS FOR MAKING THIS REVIEW! I'm so exited to get my vista, coming from a horizon with over 1000 miles on it, this will be 6000 times better! thank you for making an awesome review!
That’s awesome! Enjoy your new ride. -Vosk
yo how are you liking the vista? I have a horizon with a dying battery and am thinking of upgrading to the vista instead of replacing the battery, but want to hear a fellow horizon owner's thoughts on the vista. The range in particular worries me
@@CTEMmm the range is decent considering the weight of the scooter, the vista is not too bad by the looks of it in terms of range. I have yet to receive the scooter so your gunna have to wait for an honest review, because Rg’s review shows absolutely nothing wrong with the scooter by the looks of it, there’s no way it’s a perfect scooter.
@@CTEMmm I also think the main change with the scooter is the weight of it, it seems much less maneuverable then the horizon, I’m able to do some ridiculous tricks with the horizon I have currently and I definitely won’t be able to do that with this one
@@CTEMmm ok so I love the thing, there are 5 things that aren't the best with it though, the rear brake rotor is always really squeaky, for me something is rattling inside the front screen and the front suspension fork has some play in it. Also the rear suspension makes a little noise when compressing and uncompressing, and the throttle is basically impossible to modulate under the max speed of the gear your in. other than that its fine. Plenty of power compared to the horizon.
I have this scooter and it's amazing it's a beast I got 33mph constantly
That’s awesome! Glad you are enjoying. -Vosk
Bought a ariel rider kepler e-bike in February 2023 for getting too and from work, but the places i work have me stash it in annoying places. So thinking of getting a scooter to get too from and work while maintaining keplers 30mph and 40-45 mile range. This fluid vista should do quite nicely
For sure! You can also use code RIDERGUIDE50 to get $50 off! Vosk
I have a Segway G2 max and I love it. Do you think it is worth to sell G2 max and buy this bad boy?
Yes it an upgrade for sure!
As a long time scooter commuter (i was a true early adopter 9 years ago :) any commuter has to consider a Uscooter GT- only draw back is the limited speed - their fold down handles are sooo clutch - wish I could fuse a Uscooter GT and an Emove Cruiser
Good scoot, that cock pit is sweet! My Pegasus just died, it's probably the controller that kicked the bucket. Commuted on it for over a year and a half. 1300 miles on it. 😢
Thanks for stopping by! We like this scooter. -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide and your condolances for my scoot? 😢
How’s the suspension? Could you take this on gravel roads?
Won’t be smooth but it’s doable! -Vosk
if you weight a bit more its not too bad, just bend your knees or stand on your toes can help a bit
I'm looking at the Vista and the new emove cruiser s, I know there are pros and cons with both. I'm 6'1 200lbs and I've heard that the handlebar height on a cruiser is kind of short? I've also heard the cruiser is notorious for having bolts and screws come loose and/or break? The Vista seems pretty solidly built and durable, but doesn't have the range of the cruiser. I wouldn't be using it for a commuting, rather just joyriding around my neighborhood and whatnot. Any recommendations between the two scooters?
They are both very solid! Cruiser has better range but vista is a newer design. You honestly can’t go wrong with either. You can use code RIDERGUIDE50 to get $50 off each one.
Its certainly interesting. Makes sense as a commuter choice for shorter commutes. I do question that tiny kick plate. Am i the only one that likes a nice big angle back there for my foot? Maybe its my skateboarding background
Very cool! Thanks for sharing. -Vosk
Love your videos keep up the amazing content 👏 ❤️
Thanks so much! We try our very best. -Vosk
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@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide also my Wolf Warrior X Pro when I got it a few weeks ago it was going over 40 mph it won't go up to 45 mph any reasons for why it won't do it???
Please i need help. 🙏 Im confused on 3. The vista, the mantis v2 and the warrior x. Im leaning more on the vista for what looks like less issuses reported on reviews and forums and that is cheaper is a plus. Iv seen alot of issues reported with the fluid v2 and warrior x. Please help? Iv seen every video possible. And im still on the fence. What are your recommendation and thoughts? Also to point out, i live in miami near a fluid store.
The dual motor scooters are always better than the single motor. V2 is a great value
Appreciate the review, but im glad i went with rovoron kullter luxury.
Its only 8 pounds more heavier and $900 more expensive. But i get 31.5ah lg 21700 battery( more than double) and i get about 40 miles with high speed run.
45mph top speed
Awesome lighting
Dual hydraulic break
Finger throttle which i actually prefer.
I was seriously considering this scooter since ive had fluid horizon from fluid free ride and its been very good for last 2 years at 3000km and still running. But i can totally see this model doing well for them.
Very cool! Thanks for sharing. -Vosk
would you know anything about the fluid mosquito? would you recommend it?
Like the scooter, I’m confused why multiple scooter manufacturers choose white cable tubing versus black on a black scooter. For this reason alone I’m turned off from buying it. I guess they cant actually secure the tubing so it’s not even visible.
I guess it’s just for the look! You can add tubing around the wires for a different look. -Vosk
Portable, I like to see you going up a fly of stairs on grand central five days a week and taking the railroad with this thing at 6o plus LB.
Many people do it
Looks nice, but i would love a longer batttery range like emove cruiser. They could have made it to compete with the emove cruiser. I'll take this any day.
Thanks for the feedback! -Vosk
No mention of it being based on the KingSong KS-N12 PRO?
We have not ever reviewed any King Song Models. Hopefully in the future. -Vosk
Ah so that’s why they use the KingSong app
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide You pretty much did with this scooter.
@@InterventioN746 lol I looked up that scooter and you’re 100% right 😂😂😂😂
In the initial unboxing there was a noticeable squeal from the brakes. Did that go away on this unit?
Yes that was adjusted! -Vosk
Love the design. Hate the weight. I think I'd want more speed from 60v. Maybe they should offer more powerful motors as an option, but that would probably mean a heavier battery.
Very insightful! Thanks for sharing. -Vosk
Believe it or not, if you are a little ballsy you can get the scooter to do some crazy things, like jumping, wheelies, and really fast riding on trails, doing all these things when i ride the scooter feels really stable. Just do soft steering and leaning motions in loose sand and wet pavement
if the choice was between the vista and the apollo city pro ... which would you choose @RiderGuide ?
We would go with the city pro since it’s dual motor and zippier! You can use code RIDERGUIDE for $50 off!
I can't find the performance data base (0-25mph & other metrics) on your website anymore. Is it still there?
Will be updated shortly! -Vosk
What is the app that you use for the ambient lighting and speed controls? I contacted fluid and they said there is no available app out yet for the scooter
It’s the KingSong app. I believe Fluid is working on their own app. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide just downloaded it and it’s legit!!! Thank you!!!
Thanks for review!😊
My pleasure 😊
Please review the Vsett Mini!
Thanks for the suggestion! -Vosk
Is the apollo ghost a better scooter for the same price
Ghost is dual motor! So zippier and higher top end speed. You can use code RIDERGUIDE for $50 off
What's this app called for the scooter
I believe it is the king song app!
Can't wait to see you guys do the thunder 3 when it comes out! First dualtron with an ipx5 rating so it could be my new daily.
That should be awesome! Thanks -Vosk
Great review. A lot to like about this scooter.
As you mentioned at the beginning, affordability is subjective... so I totally disagree that $1000-$1500 is the range that would be considered budget/mid-range/or "affordable".
You close with "Its reasonable price"... uh no. Definitely not.
Lots of great bargain scooters in the $450-$750 range that get the job done.
I'm not a fan of solid tires, but I agree with your comments as to why a person might prefer solid tires.
Riding over loose gravel or rocks with pneumatic tires could be a problem, and with solid tires it's definitely even more of a problem. Same goes for wet surfaces. I'll gladly fix flats and in-between enjoy a more comfortable and safer ride.
One would think that the real world range would be a bit better, but it's not bad at all. Still, I can buy less expensive scooters that get that range or more expensive that get more + better features.
If this scooter was around the $750 price point I'd say it was a decent option. For its current price, I'd tell people to consider other choices.
Insightful! Thanks for sharing. -Vosk
for riding on wet, muddy, smooth surfaces, ride with caution. as I've not crashed with it despite basically racing it on wet pavement, it has good grip. But like anything with wheels it has a limit, just ride with a gradual motion so you can feel how the tires grip onto the road.
I want to know 1. how much it weighs 2. Does it fit in my car for my commute 3. How does it manage hills (we don’t all live on flat land) 4. How much does it cost.
10mph for hill climbing is a bit poor to me.
It weighs roughly 60lbs! Price is $1299. Depends on which car and depends on which hill! Here is more info. geni.us/FluidVista
RK9 rides? Nice to see him on this channel.
We are very glad he is here! -Vosk
people should know small battery = high heat, never charge a hot battery
Very insightful! Thanks for sharing. -Vosk
solid tire is an easy pass for me. Even with suspensions, the vibration will annoy the crap out of you
some people rather have them then ever change a flat! -Vosk
if you ride on smooth roads the scooter is silky smooth, I also like a rougher ride and like to push the thing to its limit before it slides out from under me lol
It looks like a nice scooter. I just wish it didn't have Fluid logos plastered on the front and deck and the brake cables were black.
Thanks for stopping by! Stay safe. -Vosk
wait is this ESG?
Yes it is! We have rebranded to Rider Guide. Thanks for stopping by. -Vosk
I turned away from anything less than hydraulic brakes. Still a nice looking scooter.
For those speeds mechanical breaks work pretty well to be honest. -Vosk
I prefer hydraulic or dual drum brakes, hate disc if it's not hydraulic
I agree, if the scooter goes 30mph it should have hydraulic brakes. Most e-bikes that go 28 mph have hydraulic brakes so Escooters should too. Only Apollo gets a pass because they developed fantastic ebrake technology that’s similar to eucs in terms of stopping power.
Looks nice 👍
Thanks so much! We appreciate it. -Vosk
I'm sorry I'll have to pass this one, because of the price. For that kind of money I think I can do better and cheaper. Thank you for the review.
Thanks for stopping by! -Vosk
Hi, can you review the Segway-ninebot p65 and 100s
Possibly in the future! -Vosk
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Can we get more videos more fluently I love y’all videos but I hate waiting a lot of days for a video
Yes we will be releasing more and more! -Vosk
NIU kqi 3 Pro is the best in Urban Scooters
Thanks for the feedback!
I miss Paul
Paul is here and our MVP! He will be in the next video and it will be a banger! -Vosk
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60 lbs too heavy!
What’s the max weight you are looking for? Fluid Mosquito is very lightweight and fast for its size. -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide No more then 40lbs I have a uscooters GT SE and am very happy but I am always looking for what is next. I keep an eye on you guys, you are the best scooter reviews Thanks!
It's 60lbs. Too heavy to take up and down train
Yes there are lighter options for train! -Vosk