Southern California rider here, from Los Angeles. I have racked up 745 miles on my Apollo City Pro. I am 6 foot, about 220 pounds and I have really been impressed commuting with this scooter! It is a beast; the power and performance are top notch. The range/battery life is fairly decent, I ride WOT a lot and have my acceleration maxed in the app and can achieve 20+ mile range. The Regen brake is fantastic, and I use it 95% of the time, even fresh off a full charge with no problems whatsoever. The only time I use the drum brakes is for emergency braking.
Good to hear! I also have friends with 2022 City Pros that really like them. After a ton of research I finally preordered the new improved 2023 City Pro. Can't wait to receive it and put it through its paces.
User's comment: "I have racked up 745 miles on my Apollo City Pro. I am 6 foot, about 220 pounds and I have really been impressed commuting with this scooter! It is a beast; the power and performance are top notch. The range/battery life is fairly decent, I ride WOT a lot and have my acceleration maxed in the app and can achieve 20+ mile range. The Regen brake is fantastic, and I use it 95% of the time, even fresh off a full charge with no problems whatsoever. The only time I use the drum brakes is for emergency braking."My reply: Hey there, Southern California rider from Los Angeles! It's great to hear about your positive experience with the Apollo City Pro scooter. As an ebike user myself, I recently came across a new project called the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 eBike. It's a game-changer, allowing you to charge the bike indoors! The Morph eBike offers a brushless 750W motor, impressive torque, and a top speed of 20mph. Its suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires ensure a smooth ride on any terrain. You should definitely check it out! Keep riding and enjoying your commute!
Now THIS is what a review should be like!! Freaking awesome Nic!! Great work on compiling all that info together. I'm still on the fence between the this City pro and Emove Cruiser but now have a much better viewpoint on Apollo. Many many thanks :)
Totally agree! I’m deciding on this one and the cruiser as well but I’m leaning towards the City Pro because of the dual motor but the range and deck size on the cruiser is great
I’m not particularly into scooters, although I consider buying one from time to time, but I want to appreciate how professional this video is looking for the channel with under 300 subscribers
I almost bought this over the Ghost because of the puncture resitant tires. I was afraid of low range, but you appear to get good range. However, I am on pause with this. My E-TWOW is still kicking with almost zero maintenance after 6 years and I think I will run it in the ground before going with this. The range and speed of the Apollo options are what I prefer, but the maintenance and weight and carry ability seems to be a caveat. Thank you for the great honesty in this video. I was almost going to pull the trigger because of yet another 'sale' with the countdown clock.
This was a wonderful review. everything i could find prior was nothing more than initial impressions, when what i wanted was a more long term review. I really appreciate how thorough your critique is.
We need more Nic Laporte style reviews online. Way too many reviewers only review a demo sent by the manufacturer for a short time. Not many want to stick their necks out to say the negatives.
My experience with Apollo was great, I have the explorer 21. I had problems water getting in the scooter, I got it fix at Apollo service center in NY, they cover that part I only had to pay the labor part, which it was 25 dollar, they adjusted my break,and seal on the scooter even the ppl at Apollo service center was friendly and nice.
After watching your review and a ton others I'm happy Apollo listened to the feedback and improved pretty much all of the cons on your list in the new 2023 City Pro that is now on preorder sale. They beefed up the frame including the folding mechanism, stem and deck and added a 10,000 km warranty which I think is unprecedented in the industry. They built new V8 throttles and tested them to 300,000 cycles instead of 100,000 which is the industry standard. Bigger 20 AH battery on both the single and dual motor is a nice touch. Doubled the brightness of the head light and display screen which was needed imo. Added the stem latch so it stays latched when folded, brilliant! Improved and more comfortable grips, guess we'll see about that. Added signal lights to the handle bar grip ends....incredibly smart! Improved stem mechanism from their new Apollo Pro which eliminates wobble and is much more robust....nice! All in all, took care of all my concerns so I just pre-ordered a 2023 City Pro. I actually ordered during the Fathers Day Sale for 2k and did get $200 in accessory credits but it's now on sale for $1650 CDN plus a tool kit and phone holder which is a killer price. Thanks again for the thorough review
Wow... This is all very good info to know ahead of time. Can never have enough reviews for things like electric scooters. Thanks for sharing your experiences 👍 (That "battery sag" thing seems to be a commonality among all electric scooters. I think it's just the nature of the beast when you're dealing with these types of batteries.)
Very useful review. I have the Apollo Air and was thinking of getting this one but all the issues you have named happened to me as well and was not without problems. While Apollo eventually fixed all the issues, but there are a lot of these issues with quality control with both the physical scooter and the app that I would have to get used to.
Thanks Nic, by far the most informative (the good and the bad) video on this particular scooter to date. Cant wait to ride mine in Rainncouver as well ;).
Thanks for your very balanced review, really appreciated your honest opinion. I have bought one but will keep an eye open for the quirks and issues you have identified. Cheers!
Fantastic video/content. I bought a GT2 and almost ordered this for my wife. We ended up with a p100s (fair weather riders only). I look forward to seeing what Apollo builds in the future!
Excellent, candid review! Most helpful to someone like me just getting interested in e-scooters and considering my first purchase. This scooter checks most of the boxes for me except it doesn't have an easily removable battery in the deck like the AnyHill UM-2. I would have to lug this scooter up and down quite a few steps every time it needed charging and my body nor my landlord wouldn't particularly like that.
Thanks for your information about Appollo. I'm a Big Guy... 6'7", 290lbs (bouncer at bars) and originally, the Phantom and Ghost were the only ones I found that can carry 300lbs (me plus gear). After hearing all of your concerns, I chose to avoid Appollo and found the Emove Cruiser S that carries 352lbs and gets 99km's, while the Phantom only gets 64km's, and the Ghost only gets 60km's.
The Emove Cruiser S is a decent commuter but it does have some drawbacks. It has the older style 18650 battery cells which aren't as good and won't last as long as the newer 21700 cells. Doesn't have IP66 dust and water proofing like the 2023 City Pro which I think is important for longevity. Only has a 6 month warranty which I think should be a minimum 1 year but longer if possible.
Thank you for making this video and posting this review. I've watched many reviews that go over the specs, but none that really went into what it was like owning it or for that matter the darker side of Apollo. I think I'll be ok with the newer 2023 version of this, they say that they have fixed the problems you have mentioned here and the things holding you back for saying that everyone should get one. So it's really just a matter of seeing if they can actually deliver on that promise.
P.S. I’m mainly referring to the newest scooter line up models p65 p100 GT1 and GT2. As these are the ones that prompted me to research Segway scooters.
Hi Nic, thanks for the videos about the Apollo City 2022, very interesting. Bough it even tho you don't recommend it yet. I love it, waterproof enough for my needs (test it intensively in wet/dirt/snow condition and passed the test easily). I found a fix for the hood always unlatching. I reversed the upper hook (by punching the pin out towards the left handle) and made the loop smaller by heating and clamping just a little so it can pass throught the lower hook. Works great after that, it was annoying me too much to leave it like that. Thanks again for the reviews and videos!
Great review, I agree on and share all your views. Especially agree with the brake ergonomic issue. It’s my biggest annoyance, I’ll likely swap out the levers or 3D print my own. I’ve been commuting in the Vancouver rain with mine as well and it’s been pretty great while I’m decked out in aftermarket lighting. Also noticed Apollos shady sales practices, thank you for being the only one calling them out. Maybe I’ll see you out there, peace.
Bro every single scooter company are shady AF when it comes to sales. I dont think there's one company out there that are fully honest with their product.
Thank you for such an informative and honest review. This is definitely the best review of the Apollo scooter I've seen. It's very instructive as well. I would be really glad to hear your opinion about the latest 2023 model. Should we buy it, or not yet? 😊
Thank you for bringing attention to the marketing side of their business as well. I do not want to support companies employing aggressive and fallacious marketing strategies.
Great & honest review. To me the best I have ever seen on YT. This is what we are minssing tese days. Did you have a chnce to review Apollo Phanton V2? Do you have your opinion on this one? I am considering this one with an upgrade V3 kit. Would appriciate your opinion. I was conciderning City Pro, but not any more 😉 thnks to you 👍🏼
I have ridden the V2. Much more stable than the City pro but I found the throttle to be quite sensitive. The V3 is supposed to have a smoother throttle from what I hear. ...and thanks!
Awesome review, quite in depth and good production quality. I'm surprised this was your first scooter review on the channel Do you make videos outside of this channel?
Honest review is KING. Don't hold back on the negatives ever. Companies are responsible for your safety & for your hard earned 🤑💰!!!!! We don't want con games!!! Soon or later bad companies will fail!!! Don't forget they can be sued for a few reasons. Lawyer up & learn about it.
Sounds like a simple issue, the stem wobble, of where vibration is causing the adjusting screw to loosen. A little blue thread lock should fix that. On my Segway the mounting screws for the steering kept coming loose but the blue thread lock stopped that. Who knows if I ever will beable to remove thise screws now.
Je suis tellement content d'avoir regarder cette présentation ce matin , hier j'avais acheter apollo city pro = 2074.55 $ CAD . J'ai annuler l'achat !! Moi c'était surtout pour les piste cyclable en gravier , a ce prix je veux un guidon solide et des freins beaucoup mieux positionnée . Merci beaucoup d'etre aussi honnête , je vais patienté encore 😉
je use le phantom a chaque jours dans des trails de bois, gravel et du pave. 0 problem man. Mais je suis un mountain biker donc je ride pas mon scooter comme un pti coune comme le 3/4 du monde qui ride leurs scooter... Je suis rendu a 500km et 0 problem.
Great and fair review. I opted for the Apollo Air as I wanted a lighterweight option that had similar features to the City but wanted the peace of mind of an IP66 rating. Turned out to be a total sham. Scooter took on water just from riding on wet ground/in light rain. Have spent over $1500 and now have a brick in my living room. Wish I had heeded the advice of others before buying.
I bought an apollo air 2022 ordered on 16 april on backorder and recievecd 5th may and my software won't let me use it, i received it on friday and am still waiting for a pin code to access / unlock the scooter, its just sitting like a rock in park currently waiting for a responce from apollo 3 days later to try first ride. Thinking about returning it and taking the loss. Think may have gotten a used returned scooter as well, was'nt packed fully properly or the box secured twice with wrapping strap and one of the syrafoam packing things was already broke in two, only one strap on it and the handlebar was already plugged in to stem cord.
6 months later, my apollo city pro, has some things needing addressing. First, regen brake and throttle sticking, was addressed by apollo as they sent me replacements free of charge. I installed them and now all sticking has been addressed and these new ones are smoother. After installation, the bell is basically non-functioning due to the regen being larger and now the fit is too tight. I didn’t really use the little dinging bell anyway, preferring an Orb light/horn instead. Second issue, is hook to latch to carry the scooter but since it didn’t lock you’re counting on the weight (a little heavy 72 lbs, but not impossible to lift) to keep it from un-catching mid-carrying. It seems to be resolved with a replacement hook (there’s a spring loaded lock) that’s not available yet. The app is good, but i have to re-enter preferences like max speed due to it resetting to 12mph top speed after powering down the app. love the dual motors, decent distance, handling. There’s a new kickstand out which i’ll determine if it’s needed. There’s also a new handlebar kit coming soon, with improved accessories on it, including the kickstand and hook. Perfection would be everything the same but 20 lbs lighter for carrying upstairs, perhaps new materials and battery in the future. Kudos to apollo for enhancing the city pro ‘22 rather than just forgetting about it’s customers and telling us to just buy the next model as if we want a garage with unused scooters.
Spot on! I am looking forward to this years iteration of the pro. It seems like it will address many of the issues with the 22. Lighter would be awesome!
dude, your Review is just incredible - I loved everything about it! Please do more! I would also be interested what you think about this Scooter right now (Feb 2024) - do you still own it? Or would you rather get the 2023 City Pro (or an entire different scooter) instead?
I still use it regularly. Over 3600 km now. Needs new tires soon, they lose about 20PSI a week. At least the front does. Not sure how long it will last but so far it still gets the job done. I would surely get the 2023 (Or whatever they call it now). A friend of mine got one. She commutes with it regularly and has been loving it. As for other scooters I still haven't seen anything that compares. Perhaps the P100s or the new ST1 coming from Segway. I tried the Apollo go back in October (prototype) and seems like a perfect scooter for short trips.
Yes but we're the guinea pigs for Apollo!!!Untill they fix all those faulty things with their escooters!!! We pay for these amatures till they get it right..! Come on!!! The P100S is better.
Great review...Coming from someone who is potentially going to buy a very lightly used 2022 single motor for $700 I am thinking twice. By the time I am done correcting these issues it's as much as the GO...Might start there.
Water resistance in the wheels motor is where ur water damage will come over long term, unless they are using silicone seals around the wheel cover ( I doubt it) as soon as 1 screw is not perfectly tight u will get water in the wheel motor/ already are getting water in there slowly
Anyone who needs to commute within a city in the Pacific Northwest and needs to rely on their scooter and know it won't get water damage should check out the Vig Yrsa (Vig is a Victoria-based scooter company). It's the only scooter with an IP68 rating and more importantly the only one that covers water damage under warranty.
I have never heard of this company. I will check them out. E: They claim "IP55 rating on motors and brakes" I think motors are going to be a problem for many scooters, even the Apollo city pro, I will be tearing it down at some point.
My boosted Rev has an IP67 rating but after 4 years of riding water eventually got into the front motor.. Enough wear and tear will widen the once waterproof gaps..
Great video. I have city pro since august, 1900 km on the clock. I had pretty much every problem with it possible. One of the worst things is the handlebars, each handle is connected to the middle unit by only one screw, I happened to lift my scooter with the handles over the curbs and that caused movement in handles over time, cannot tighten them threads must be damaged, It wouldn't last long for anyone jumping off the curbs. Poor design with the handles in my opinion. I would rather have solid handlebars. Btw my brake adjustment is completely rusted can't move it anymore :D Subscribed!
Thank you for a great review. I am not sure you did show on this video how to tighten the stem if it wobble, if not could you please advice the best way to stop this. Much appreciated.
I've been wanting a City Pro pretty bad, ever since I started shopping around for scooters stronger than my Ninebot Max, but the number of complaints on reddit is just insane.. if Apollo properly fixes everything I guess that would make them a great company, but I have yet to see anything indicating they've done that. They raised the price after reviewers like you pointed it out too lol.. or did they?
Yeah as far as I can tell they raised the US price by $100 around the time I posted the review. Which is fine, they don't seem to be doing the slashed price countdown thing anymore(or at least right now)
@@rodeljanarcematula7753 My Partner has a KQi3 Pro and it's pretty solid. I would go for the KQi3 Max though for a little more speed and range. All depends what you're looking for though.
Siupport from Apollo is pretty appaling, but finding a local service friend, like Fatwhip in Kitsilano, is a game changer. The unit is great, but Apollo's customer service sucks. Don't expect any help from them. As for self sealing tires... yeah, right! BTW the head now attaches with 4 strong screws.
I love your pointing out the IP ratings on scooters. To say anything is a "Commuter" tool, it HAS to be IP66. Or "Off Road". How can anything be off-road and not be dust proof and water proof (well or IP66). I saw one reviewer saying its because the "plug & Play" connectors can't be IP66. As usually, most of the reviewers are not knowledgeable in what they are talking about. They are cheap infomercials! Great video, thank for doing such a great review. Wondering if anything you pointed out will change in 2024??
@@nicthedoor I see that technique everywhere here in the states. People are just sheep wanting to think they are getting a deal!! Great Channel, Great Videos.
Best review i have seen. Just bought a refurbished one for 1399 CAD, so not sure its a good price but it seems so. Wife is from Montreal so need to show support.
As long as it's in good shape that's a good price. I just reached 4000km this week. Time for new tires soon and there is certainly some rust on the rear brake from all the rain riding but otherwise rides like new.
@@nicthedoor Apollo offers military discount, so got a new Apollo Go instead. The City Pro didn't ship yet, so they just swapped the order and ended up being cheaper with the discount. Will you be doing a review of the GO?
I'm willing to spend up to 1200 ... I want distance and a smooth ride. Speed - no big deal, but at least 20mph. At least 10 inch non solid tires. I returned a Ninebot max with a bad throttle. I have a Gotrax G4 and want something a little better as my main one. Any suggestions?
I ended up chopping the city pro back in for an in motion s1. Obviously very different scooters (dual vs single etc) but have to say I’m miles more impressed with the S1’s build quality etc. no brainer for half the price IMO…
wait , iI left a skid mark 2 houses long just trying to use only drum on my mosquito, I'm scared of the front regen because I dont want to indo -- I broke my collar bone on it anyway but I still love it lol, now theres a flat spot on the solid tire that goes thunk thunk thunk, but since I can't read the gauge well it lets me know how fast I'm going
Yes cos of that I wudent buy that same thing make lott off company's. But I hawe almost similar scooter Vsett 8 with regen break and drum breaks whic are ok and regan I put on 2 cos drum brakes are oke, also warranty is unbelievable good but I think that thet depends from reseller too reseller I bot it 1km from my house and guys are always here and they will help mee for what I need . And I ride 450km and there is noo woble suspension is wery good and rear motor is wery good.
Will you be reviewing Apollo City Pro 2023 later on? I honestly prefer this long term reviews. Apollo seem to address the concerns you have with 2023 iteration, but i still wanna see user reviews especially yours
Thanks for a great review! I once rode a friend's 900$ scooter that had a slightly stuck throttle issue. that wasn't a pleasant experience because it slowed the breaking. Since then I commited to buy one without any breaking and throttle issues because safety is priority for me. I think the scooters priced 2x times shouldn't have similar issues. I hope their 2023 upgrade will fix everything. A whoobly handlebar is the second one I'd fix before buying it. At the same time, I still wasn't able to find a decent alternative with same or better specs. So I'll be waiting and riding my bike meanwhile.
I’ve ridden kqi3 pro for 1k miles and it’s been good the best scooter the only thing that broke was the kickstand other than that it’s one seriously good build quality scooter I can vouch for that
I’m debating between the P100s and the Apollo City Pro 2023. I like the look of the Apollo, it’s a little lighter, and I think it probably has a little more hillclimbing power. I like the battery charging limit and visual indicators when charging on the P100s. The P100s also seems like it would be more stable at high speeds. Is the two wheel drive a big advantage? Keeping the suspension clean looks like a pain for the Apollo. What are your thoughts between these two scooters?
I am very curious about the p100S. I haven't ridden one though. From friends who have ridden it, they say it has plenty of hill climbing power. Also the range is excellent. Though I did see a post on reddit today about a busted stem. Not good. Each scooter has their own pro/con list. I am over 2000km on the city pro. Still kicking.
@niclaporte An excellently done review. Apollo needs lots of adjustments. Any more problem with the regen brake kicking in at the wrong time? Any more danger with it? Thank you.
Inmotion S1F has IP56 rating (but it's pretty much a ninebot max with better specs so it's probably better), if anyone is looking for a cheaper alternative to the city pro, it can also go significantly farther, albeit slightly slower.
I've sent mine back to distributor for repair today. Have had an absolute nightmare with the front wheel / motor. Creaking / friction sounds and then this weekend a loss of thrust and power from the front motor which eventually led to it not working at all this morning. Really disappointing given it's done about 20km's (most of which locally just testing and riding to see what the fault is).
Indeed, but ride and glide were great in fairness. Have taken it back no questions asked for an exchange, just need to decide whether to get another pro or something else! Problem is, as the video mentions, hardly any high IP rated options out there!
@@davidb9213 If you can avoid going back with Apollo. I would stay away. I got the Air with 'IP66' - didn't survive light rain without taking on water damage. Absolute disaster and have definitely been mislead.
Hey, how do you clean the suspension coils out of interest?! Other than hosing down I’m struggling! Any issues with front wheel / tyre squeaking when slowing down? Mine sounds like something making contact with tyre but nothing obvious having inspected….thanks!
I honestly just spray it with water. You can crud in there even after I cleaned it. Maybe a brush would do the trick but I've just said F it and will see what happens with the way I clean it.
@@davidb9213 I occasionally spray WD-40, leave it for an hour or so and then use white lithium grease (wd-40 brand) it's just what I had at home. I think Apollo recommends jig-a-loo. Silicon based lubricant
Man i must be blessed or something, im at 500km on my phantom and 0 issues what so ever. I do however check my scooter after every ride and make sure everything is good and tight.
screwed in the locking mount how many times? Did you use Loctite? Seems like any time I have a problem like that on my scooter or bike, that fixes it the first time.
The whole reason why I would like to purchase a city pro is because of the water rating. I own a Apollo Ghost (I love it btw) but the weather is ridiculous here in Australia & I can't predict the weather. The barrings I know would need to be replaced due to me riding in the inclement weather. & it's not easy to do
Yeah, I've have it for a year now riding in plenty of rain and there is still no sign of water damage. +2600km. I'm glad their other offerings mostly have the same rating but I'd like to see other manufacturers follow suit.
Dude you keep mentioning the Segway, as so many reviewers do, but I’ve read horror stories about Segway scooters and the abysmal customer service. No replacement parts especially for those weird size tires you mentioned (10.5”vs10”). And scooters from Segway that don’t even function out of the box. Google it.
completley agree on the water resistance rating, i'm in the UK and it's essential. Plus where i am, the distributor has 8 repair centres, 1 25 miles from me.
Really great video. Was really interested in this scooter but after hearing about some of their business practices and quality issues, I’m a lot less enthused. Seems they are a bit “As Seen on TV”-ish and not being very straight with their customers….
Do you believe these gremlins have been addressed at this point during production of the current generation 2022 Apollo City Pro? Or, do you still recommend waiting for the next updated version? Should we expect a 2023 update to the Apollo City Pro? Do you continue to struggle with the neck clamp?
Nick, great vid! Is there the ability to add a side mirror to the left grip like I have on my regular bike to see people/cars behind and to left of me?
In the end there's not a single escooter that can be improved or has problems/design flaws, especially after time -- am curious to see what you would recommend instead.. happily they have a new update re. display, folding latch, kickstand, front turn signals, sticky throttle...
@niclaporte How come? How's the sudden an unexpected regen brake kick in? So that's gone ? This is my make or brake decision to buy or not of this scooter. Looks like you don't have problems with it or do you? Any buyers remorse? Thanks.
@@8_x_9. No, I haven't had any issues like that with the brake again. I haven't used it a whole lot since summer began. I prefer to cycle in the nice weather. At about 2200km now. I am still happy with it and I may get the upgrade kit though I am disappointment that there is no way to upgrade the locking mechanism.
Is this a good scooter company? I have heard good and bad things about Apollo with some people saying they make great scooters and others saying they got scooters with major defects and the support service is almost nonexistent.
I have heard mixed things as well. I have had a good experience with their customer service. They do seem to be one of the good ones, for the most part.
Is the Apollo city recommended for 2024? Went with the Ninebot max g2 last summer, over this. You’re making me feel I made the right choice. However I do wish I could upgrade my suspension, without spending an exorbitant amount of money or doing larger than necessary my max mod kits. Just an added dampener and rubber stopper might suffice. What do you think? 🤔
Would like to see the machine while you’re describing and not your face- you’ve got a beautiful face, I just need to see the suspension and other points while you describe them with a whole view or the entire scooter. Thanks for the review Brother!!
I was going to buy this scooter for 1250$ cad but all these issues make me want to pass. I already had 2 apollo phantoms which were plagued with issues and two apollo cities with dead batteries. Warranty is a joke with Apollo. The company doesn't seem like it changed for the better at all.
The fake sale happens with distributors as well. Best Buy in U.S. had a count down clock that ended last night but the next day, the price is still $300 off. It seems like the actual price for City dual motor as of this post is $1500. Anything more is a tax on stupid. Anything less is a real sale.
Great honest review. Honest reviews are what’s missing from the PEV community. Great job.
nah its trash get a unicycle
@@Blox117 lmao
I really don't comment on RUclips videos but this is the best honest review I've ever seen so far. Thanks
Southern California rider here, from Los Angeles. I have racked up 745 miles on my Apollo City Pro. I am 6 foot, about 220 pounds and I have really been impressed commuting with this scooter! It is a beast; the power and performance are top notch. The range/battery life is fairly decent, I ride WOT a lot and have my acceleration maxed in the app and can achieve 20+ mile range. The Regen brake is fantastic, and I use it 95% of the time, even fresh off a full charge with no problems whatsoever. The only time I use the drum brakes is for emergency braking.
Good to hear! I also have friends with 2022 City Pros that really like them. After a ton of research I finally preordered the new improved 2023 City Pro. Can't wait to receive it and put it through its paces.
User's comment: "I have racked up 745 miles on my Apollo City Pro. I am 6 foot, about 220 pounds and I have really been impressed commuting with this scooter! It is a beast; the power and performance are top notch. The range/battery life is fairly decent, I ride WOT a lot and have my acceleration maxed in the app and can achieve 20+ mile range. The Regen brake is fantastic, and I use it 95% of the time, even fresh off a full charge with no problems whatsoever. The only time I use the drum brakes is for emergency braking."My reply: Hey there, Southern California rider from Los Angeles! It's great to hear about your positive experience with the Apollo City Pro scooter. As an ebike user myself, I recently came across a new project called the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 eBike. It's a game-changer, allowing you to charge the bike indoors! The Morph eBike offers a brushless 750W motor, impressive torque, and a top speed of 20mph. Its suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires ensure a smooth ride on any terrain. You should definitely check it out! Keep riding and enjoying your commute!
I don’t understand the difference between the two breaks and how each are used?
@@Yielar1did it come yet?
@@christianb8228 regen braking is the electric motor running in reverse to slow down.... the traditional drum brakes use pads to slow down.
Now THIS is what a review should be like!! Freaking awesome Nic!! Great work on compiling all that info together. I'm still on the fence between the this City pro and Emove Cruiser but now have a much better viewpoint on Apollo. Many many thanks :)
Totally agree! I’m deciding on this one and the cruiser as well but I’m leaning towards the City Pro because of the dual motor but the range and deck size on the cruiser is great
I’m not particularly into scooters, although I consider buying one from time to time, but I want to appreciate how professional this video is looking for the channel with under 300 subscribers
I almost bought this over the Ghost because of the puncture resitant tires. I was afraid of low range, but you appear to get good range. However, I am on pause with this. My E-TWOW is still kicking with almost zero maintenance after 6 years and I think I will run it in the ground before going with this. The range and speed of the Apollo options are what I prefer, but the maintenance and weight and carry ability seems to be a caveat. Thank you for the great honesty in this video. I was almost going to pull the trigger because of yet another 'sale' with the countdown clock.
This was a wonderful review. everything i could find prior was nothing more than initial impressions, when what i wanted was a more long term review. I really appreciate how thorough your critique is.
We need more Nic Laporte style reviews online. Way too many reviewers only review a demo sent by the manufacturer for a short time. Not many want to stick their necks out to say the negatives.
Many people don’t value truth these days unfortunately
This is definitely an honest review not only on the scooter but also the company's marketing Strategy.
That may be the best scooter review I’ve seen yet, nice work!
My experience with Apollo was great, I have the explorer 21. I had problems water getting in the scooter, I got it fix at Apollo service center in NY, they cover that part I only had to pay the labor part, which it was 25 dollar, they adjusted my break,and seal on the scooter even the ppl at Apollo service center was friendly and nice.
After watching your review and a ton others I'm happy Apollo listened to the feedback and improved pretty much all of the cons on your list in the new 2023 City Pro that is now on preorder sale. They beefed up the frame including the folding mechanism, stem and deck and added a 10,000 km warranty which I think is unprecedented in the industry. They built new V8 throttles and tested them to 300,000 cycles instead of 100,000 which is the industry standard. Bigger 20 AH battery on both the single and dual motor is a nice touch. Doubled the brightness of the head light and display screen which was needed imo. Added the stem latch so it stays latched when folded, brilliant! Improved and more comfortable grips, guess we'll see about that. Added signal lights to the handle bar grip ends....incredibly smart! Improved stem mechanism from their new Apollo Pro which eliminates wobble and is much more robust....nice! All in all, took care of all my concerns so I just pre-ordered a 2023 City Pro. I actually ordered during the Fathers Day Sale for 2k and did get $200 in accessory credits but it's now on sale for $1650 CDN plus a tool kit and phone holder which is a killer price. Thanks again for the thorough review
Facts and they also have a 50$ discount code SCOOTSCOOTMF5085DH9HCH
Great news. Thx. How's you motor braking? Any problems them locking up during riding?😮
I'm just glad I live in Queens, NYC. I live not to far from their warehouse in Brooklyn, so service isn't too bad for me.
The best review I have seen on the Apollo City Pro!
I appreciate the comment. Thanks!
Wow... This is all very good info to know ahead of time. Can never have enough reviews for things like electric scooters. Thanks for sharing your experiences 👍
(That "battery sag" thing seems to be a commonality among all electric scooters. I think it's just the nature of the beast when you're dealing with these types of batteries.)
This is the best review I have EVER come across. I’d love the same exact honest review of the NIU KQI3 Max
Very useful review. I have the Apollo Air and was thinking of getting this one but all the issues you have named happened to me as well and was not without problems. While Apollo eventually fixed all the issues, but there are a lot of these issues with quality control with both the physical scooter and the app that I would have to get used to.
This is the most honest review I saw on RUclips for a while, thank you
Thanks Nic, by far the most informative (the good and the bad) video on this particular scooter to date. Cant wait to ride mine in Rainncouver as well ;).
Thanks for your very balanced review, really appreciated your honest opinion. I have bought one but will keep an eye open for the quirks and issues you have identified. Cheers!
The best review of an e-scooter I've seen so far. Please continue in this way - just great.
Fantastic video/content. I bought a GT2 and almost ordered this for my wife. We ended up with a p100s (fair weather riders only). I look forward to seeing what Apollo builds in the future!
Curious how that p100s is going heard they are riddled with issues?
Appreciate the in depth long term and balanced review. AFAIU, you don't have an alternate that you prefer, though... which is the best endorsement.
Rode it today. Sill love it despite it's flaws. I would like to try the 2023 iteration.
@niclaporte Any problems with the 2023 city pro's regen brakes unwantingly locking up during rides? Or with the 2022's?
Thank you.
Excellent, candid review! Most helpful to someone like me just getting interested in e-scooters and considering my first purchase. This scooter checks most of the boxes for me except it doesn't have an easily removable battery in the deck like the AnyHill UM-2. I would have to lug this scooter up and down quite a few steps every time it needed charging and my body nor my landlord wouldn't particularly like that.
Thanks for your information about Appollo. I'm a Big Guy... 6'7", 290lbs (bouncer at bars) and originally, the Phantom and Ghost were the only ones I found that can carry 300lbs (me plus gear). After hearing all of your concerns, I chose to avoid Appollo and found the Emove Cruiser S that carries 352lbs and gets 99km's, while the Phantom only gets 64km's, and the Ghost only gets 60km's.
The Emove Cruiser S is a decent commuter but it does have some drawbacks. It has the older style 18650 battery cells which aren't as good and won't last as long as the newer 21700 cells. Doesn't have IP66 dust and water proofing like the 2023 City Pro which I think is important for longevity. Only has a 6 month warranty which I think should be a minimum 1 year but longer if possible.
Thank you for making this video and posting this review. I've watched many reviews that go over the specs, but none that really went into what it was like owning it or for that matter the darker side of Apollo. I think I'll be ok with the newer 2023 version of this, they say that they have fixed the problems you have mentioned here and the things holding you back for saying that everyone should get one. So it's really just a matter of seeing if they can actually deliver on that promise.
P.S. I’m mainly referring to the newest scooter line up models p65 p100 GT1 and GT2. As these are the ones that prompted me to research Segway scooters.
Hi Nic, thanks for the videos about the Apollo City 2022, very interesting. Bough it even tho you don't recommend it yet. I love it, waterproof enough for my needs (test it intensively in wet/dirt/snow condition and passed the test easily). I found a fix for the hood always unlatching. I reversed the upper hook (by punching the pin out towards the left handle) and made the loop smaller by heating and clamping just a little so it can pass throught the lower hook. Works great after that, it was annoying me too much to leave it like that. Thanks again for the reviews and videos!
Great review, I agree on and share all your views. Especially agree with the brake ergonomic issue. It’s my biggest annoyance, I’ll likely swap out the levers or 3D print my own. I’ve been commuting in the Vancouver rain with mine as well and it’s been pretty great while I’m decked out in aftermarket lighting.
Also noticed Apollos shady sales practices, thank you for being the only one calling them out.
Maybe I’ll see you out there, peace.
What lighting did you get? Agreed one handlebars etc too…
Bro every single scooter company are shady AF when it comes to sales. I dont think there's one company out there that are fully honest with their product.
Thank you for such an informative and honest review. This is definitely the best review of the Apollo scooter I've seen. It's very instructive as well. I would be really glad to hear your opinion about the latest 2023 model. Should we buy it, or not yet? 😊
Thank you for bringing attention to the marketing side of their business as well. I do not want to support companies employing aggressive and fallacious marketing strategies.
Bad business practices from this money gabbing company!!! P100S =yes.
Great review. Wish others would be able to do same quality. Congratulations
Great & honest review. To me the best I have ever seen on YT. This is what we are minssing tese days. Did you have a chnce to review Apollo Phanton V2? Do you have your opinion on this one? I am considering this one with an upgrade V3 kit. Would appriciate your opinion. I was conciderning City Pro, but not any more 😉 thnks to you 👍🏼
I have ridden the V2. Much more stable than the City pro but I found the throttle to be quite sensitive. The V3 is supposed to have a smoother throttle from what I hear.
...and thanks!
Awesome review, quite in depth and good production quality.
I'm surprised this was your first scooter review on the channel
Do you make videos outside of this channel?
Ah you do, found your Tech illiterate channel :p
Yeah, I plan on still making videos there once in a while. Thanks for the kind words.
Great review. It brings me more mess in my head considering between Segway P100s and Apollo CityPro. Nice work! Thank you.
Honest review is KING. Don't hold back on the negatives ever. Companies are responsible for your safety & for your hard earned 🤑💰!!!!! We don't want con games!!! Soon or later bad companies will fail!!! Don't forget they can be sued for a few reasons.
Lawyer up & learn about it.
Sounds like a simple issue, the stem wobble, of where vibration is causing the adjusting screw to loosen. A little blue thread lock should fix that. On my Segway the mounting screws for the steering kept coming loose but the blue thread lock stopped that. Who knows if I ever will beable to remove thise screws now.
19:18 Attach a flat, flexible piece of plastic to the back of the deck. There’s your improved fender.
Je suis tellement content d'avoir regarder cette présentation ce matin , hier j'avais acheter apollo city pro = 2074.55 $ CAD . J'ai annuler l'achat !! Moi c'était surtout pour les piste cyclable en gravier , a ce prix je veux un guidon solide et des freins beaucoup mieux positionnée . Merci beaucoup d'etre aussi honnête , je vais patienté encore 😉
Merci!
je use le phantom a chaque jours dans des trails de bois, gravel et du pave. 0 problem man. Mais je suis un mountain biker donc je ride pas mon scooter comme un pti coune comme le 3/4 du monde qui ride leurs scooter... Je suis rendu a 500km et 0 problem.
Awesome video bro and thanks for sharing .
Great and fair review. I opted for the Apollo Air as I wanted a lighterweight option that had similar features to the City but wanted the peace of mind of an IP66 rating. Turned out to be a total sham. Scooter took on water just from riding on wet ground/in light rain. Have spent over $1500 and now have a brick in my living room. Wish I had heeded the advice of others before buying.
I bought an apollo air 2022 ordered on 16 april on backorder and recievecd 5th may and my software won't let me use it, i received it on friday and am still waiting for a pin code to access / unlock the scooter, its just sitting like a rock in park currently waiting for a responce from apollo 3 days later to try first ride. Thinking about returning it and taking the loss. Think may have gotten a used returned scooter as well, was'nt packed fully properly or the box secured twice with wrapping strap and one of the syrafoam packing things was already broke in two, only one strap on it and the handlebar was already plugged in to stem cord.
6 months later, my apollo city pro, has some things needing addressing. First, regen brake and throttle sticking, was addressed by apollo as they sent me replacements free of charge. I installed them and now all sticking has been addressed and these new ones are smoother. After installation, the bell is basically non-functioning due to the regen being larger and now the fit is too tight. I didn’t really use the little dinging bell anyway, preferring an Orb light/horn instead. Second issue, is hook to latch to carry the scooter but since it didn’t lock you’re counting on the weight (a little heavy 72 lbs, but not impossible to lift) to keep it from un-catching mid-carrying. It seems to be resolved with a replacement hook (there’s a spring loaded lock) that’s not available yet. The app is good, but i have to re-enter preferences like max speed due to it resetting to 12mph top speed after powering down the app. love the dual motors, decent distance, handling. There’s a new kickstand out which i’ll determine if it’s needed. There’s also a new handlebar kit coming soon, with improved accessories on it, including the kickstand and hook. Perfection would be everything the same but 20 lbs lighter for carrying upstairs, perhaps new materials and battery in the future. Kudos to apollo for enhancing the city pro ‘22 rather than just forgetting about it’s customers and telling us to just buy the next model as if we want a garage with unused scooters.
Spot on! I am looking forward to this years iteration of the pro. It seems like it will address many of the issues with the 22. Lighter would be awesome!
dude, your Review is just incredible - I loved everything about it! Please do more!
I would also be interested what you think about this Scooter right now (Feb 2024) - do you still own it? Or would you rather get the 2023 City Pro (or an entire different scooter) instead?
I still use it regularly. Over 3600 km now. Needs new tires soon, they lose about 20PSI a week. At least the front does. Not sure how long it will last but so far it still gets the job done.
I would surely get the 2023 (Or whatever they call it now). A friend of mine got one. She commutes with it regularly and has been loving it. As for other scooters I still haven't seen anything that compares. Perhaps the P100s or the new ST1 coming from Segway. I tried the Apollo go back in October (prototype) and seems like a perfect scooter for short trips.
Apollo wants to know. Good for you.They will only get better.They admit freely to their issues and will improve.
Yes but we're the guinea pigs for Apollo!!!Untill they fix all those faulty things with their escooters!!! We pay for these amatures till they get it right..! Come on!!!
The P100S is better.
What a great review, keep it up. I totally agree as an owner of the scooter, you said everything there is to say.
Great review...Coming from someone who is potentially going to buy a very lightly used 2022 single motor for $700 I am thinking twice. By the time I am done correcting these issues it's as much as the GO...Might start there.
Water resistance in the wheels motor is where ur water damage will come over long term, unless they are using silicone seals around the wheel cover ( I doubt it) as soon as 1 screw is not perfectly tight u will get water in the wheel motor/ already are getting water in there slowly
Moister & water condensation accumulations can be a problem!!@.Dry it ot occasionally 😉.
I came for the scooter review, and it was great, but DAMN! That guitar case is awesome!
Thank you for this review. It was super informative
Anyone who needs to commute within a city in the Pacific Northwest and needs to rely on their scooter and know it won't get water damage should check out the Vig Yrsa (Vig is a Victoria-based scooter company). It's the only scooter with an IP68 rating and more importantly the only one that covers water damage under warranty.
I have never heard of this company. I will check them out. E: They claim "IP55 rating on motors and brakes" I think motors are going to be a problem for many scooters, even the Apollo city pro, I will be tearing it down at some point.
My boosted Rev has an IP67 rating but after 4 years of riding water eventually got into the front motor.. Enough wear and tear will widen the once waterproof gaps..
Great review. Safety and quality assurance should be the No.1 priority Apollo should aware
Great video. I have city pro since august, 1900 km on the clock. I had pretty much every problem with it possible. One of the worst things is the handlebars, each handle is connected to the middle unit by only one screw, I happened to lift my scooter with the handles over the curbs and that caused movement in handles over time, cannot tighten them threads must be damaged, It wouldn't last long for anyone jumping off the curbs. Poor design with the handles in my opinion. I would rather have solid handlebars. Btw my brake adjustment is completely rusted can't move it anymore :D
Subscribed!
By the looks of things it's a hunk of junk. I think I will just pick up the original varla one.
@@BigazzhamAlmost 1k km on my varla eagle one, runs as great as the day I got it. Just get the rugged clamp and an extended mudguard for the rear.
I cant believe you only have so little sub, your channels quality rivals big channels
The battery going up when stopping is from battery sag.
Thanks, TIL
Excellent review you nailed it 👍🏻
Thank you for a great review. I am not sure you did show on this video how to tighten the stem if it wobble, if not could you please advice the best way to stop this. Much appreciated.
Yes I posted a video a little while ago. Not high quality but it should help.
I've been wanting a City Pro pretty bad, ever since I started shopping around for scooters stronger than my Ninebot Max, but the number of complaints on reddit is just insane.. if Apollo properly fixes everything I guess that would make them a great company, but I have yet to see anything indicating they've done that.
They raised the price after reviewers like you pointed it out too lol.. or did they?
Yeah as far as I can tell they raised the US price by $100 around the time I posted the review. Which is fine, they don't seem to be doing the slashed price countdown thing anymore(or at least right now)
they lowered it in canada...
This escooter was on my list... Now I'm having my doubts !
Yeah, was on my list too but now it probably isn't
Avoid! Stay away from Apollo. My experience has been a disaster.
@@Jamie-vi4ps any recommendation?
@@rodeljanarcematula7753 My Partner has a KQi3 Pro and it's pretty solid. I would go for the KQi3 Max though for a little more speed and range. All depends what you're looking for though.
Siupport from Apollo is pretty appaling, but finding a local service friend, like Fatwhip in Kitsilano, is a game changer. The unit is great, but Apollo's customer service sucks. Don't expect any help from them. As for self sealing tires... yeah, right! BTW the head now attaches with 4 strong screws.
The cracking stems apparently had to do with the weld joint there and the newer stems look different
Thank you for the video.
Great review man
I love your pointing out the IP ratings on scooters. To say anything is a "Commuter" tool, it HAS to be IP66. Or "Off Road". How can anything be off-road and not be dust proof and water proof (well or IP66). I saw one reviewer saying its because the "plug & Play" connectors can't be IP66. As usually, most of the reviewers are not knowledgeable in what they are talking about. They are cheap infomercials! Great video, thank for doing such a great review. Wondering if anything you pointed out will change in 2024??
The 23' model fixed a lot of the issue with the scooter. As for their "sales" still the same.
@@nicthedoor I see that technique everywhere here in the states. People are just sheep wanting to think they are getting a deal!! Great Channel, Great Videos.
Best review i have seen. Just bought a refurbished one for 1399 CAD, so not sure its a good price but it seems so. Wife is from Montreal so need to show support.
As long as it's in good shape that's a good price. I just reached 4000km this week. Time for new tires soon and there is certainly some rust on the rear brake from all the rain riding but otherwise rides like new.
@@nicthedoor Apollo offers military discount, so got a new Apollo Go instead. The City Pro didn't ship yet, so they just swapped the order and ended up being cheaper with the discount. Will you be doing a review of the GO?
Unlikely to be doing specific reviews any more though it will likely show up in videos
I'm willing to spend up to 1200 ... I want distance and a smooth ride. Speed - no big deal, but at least 20mph. At least 10 inch non solid tires. I returned a Ninebot max with a bad throttle. I have a Gotrax G4 and want something a little better as my main one. Any suggestions?
Yes I have one gotrax is coming out with the G6 model that's what you're looking for.
I ended up chopping the city pro back in for an in motion s1. Obviously very different scooters (dual vs single etc) but have to say I’m miles more impressed with the S1’s build quality etc. no brainer for half the price IMO…
wait , iI left a skid mark 2 houses long just trying to use only drum on my mosquito, I'm scared of the front regen because I dont want to indo -- I broke my collar bone on it anyway but I still love it lol, now theres a flat spot on the solid tire that goes thunk thunk thunk, but since I can't read the gauge well it lets me know how fast I'm going
Yes cos of that I wudent buy that same thing make lott off company's. But I hawe almost similar scooter Vsett 8 with regen break and drum breaks whic are ok and regan I put on 2 cos drum brakes are oke, also warranty is unbelievable good but I think that thet depends from reseller too reseller I bot it 1km from my house and guys are always here and they will help mee for what I need . And I ride 450km and there is noo woble suspension is wery good and rear motor is wery good.
Will you be reviewing Apollo City Pro 2023 later on? I honestly prefer this long term reviews. Apollo seem to address the concerns you have with 2023 iteration, but i still wanna see user reviews especially yours
Thanks for a great review! I once rode a friend's 900$ scooter that had a slightly stuck throttle issue. that wasn't a pleasant experience because it slowed the breaking. Since then I commited to buy one without any breaking and throttle issues because safety is priority for me. I think the scooters priced 2x times shouldn't have similar issues. I hope their 2023 upgrade will fix everything. A whoobly handlebar is the second one I'd fix before buying it. At the same time, I still wasn't able to find a decent alternative with same or better specs. So I'll be waiting and riding my bike meanwhile.
What about the P100S?
I’ve ridden kqi3 pro for 1k miles and it’s been good the best scooter the only thing that broke was the kickstand other than that it’s one seriously good build quality scooter I can vouch for that
i also rode this ina thunderstorm and it was great
Great review, thanks! I'm still shopping, and Apollo still looks ok, with qualifications, compared to others. Any other suggestions?
Great review👍
They also gave me 200 in accessories with mine. Quality products.
I’m debating between the P100s and the Apollo City Pro 2023. I like the look of the Apollo, it’s a little lighter, and I think it probably has a little more hillclimbing power. I like the battery charging limit and visual indicators when charging on the P100s. The P100s also seems like it would be more stable at high speeds. Is the two wheel drive a big advantage? Keeping the suspension clean looks like a pain for the Apollo. What are your thoughts between these two scooters?
I am very curious about the p100S. I haven't ridden one though. From friends who have ridden it, they say it has plenty of hill climbing power. Also the range is excellent. Though I did see a post on reddit today about a busted stem. Not good.
Each scooter has their own pro/con list. I am over 2000km on the city pro. Still kicking.
@niclaporte An excellently done review. Apollo needs lots of adjustments. Any more problem with the regen brake kicking in at the wrong time? Any more
danger with it?
Thank you.
Inmotion S1F has IP56 rating (but it's pretty much a ninebot max with better specs so it's probably better), if anyone is looking for a cheaper alternative to the city pro, it can also go significantly farther, albeit slightly slower.
That is certainly a good alternative. It's a step up from the Ninebot max and I think might be perfect for many city commuters.
Thank you for calling out the sale pricing bullshit!
I've sent mine back to distributor for repair today. Have had an absolute nightmare with the front wheel / motor. Creaking / friction sounds and then this weekend a loss of thrust and power from the front motor which eventually led to it not working at all this morning. Really disappointing given it's done about 20km's (most of which locally just testing and riding to see what the fault is).
And unfortunately not covered by their replacement warranty. Sorry to hear about your experience, but thank you for sharing
Indeed, but ride and glide were great in fairness. Have taken it back no questions asked for an exchange, just need to decide whether to get another pro or something else!
Problem is, as the video mentions, hardly any high IP rated options out there!
@@davidb9213 If you can avoid going back with Apollo. I would stay away. I got the Air with 'IP66' - didn't survive light rain without taking on water damage. Absolute disaster and have definitely been mislead.
Hey, how do you clean the suspension coils out of interest?! Other than hosing down I’m struggling! Any issues with front wheel / tyre squeaking when slowing down? Mine sounds like something making contact with tyre but nothing obvious having inspected….thanks!
I honestly just spray it with water. You can crud in there even after I cleaned it. Maybe a brush would do the trick but I've just said F it and will see what happens with the way I clean it.
Great thanks - what lubricant do you use and do you spray wd40 before applying It?
@@davidb9213 I occasionally spray WD-40, leave it for an hour or so and then use white lithium grease (wd-40 brand) it's just what I had at home. I think Apollo recommends jig-a-loo. Silicon based lubricant
Man i must be blessed or something, im at 500km on my phantom and 0 issues what so ever. I do however check my scooter after every ride and make sure everything is good and tight.
hope they fixe all the issues
screwed in the locking mount how many times? Did you use Loctite? Seems like any time I have a problem like that on my scooter or bike, that fixes it the first time.
What a clown show with those prices. Thanks for the honest review, subscribed!
The whole reason why I would like to purchase a city pro is because of the water rating.
I own a Apollo Ghost (I love it btw) but the weather is ridiculous here in Australia & I can't predict the weather.
The barrings I know would need to be replaced due to me riding in the inclement weather. & it's not easy to do
Yeah, I've have it for a year now riding in plenty of rain and there is still no sign of water damage. +2600km. I'm glad their other offerings mostly have the same rating but I'd like to see other manufacturers follow suit.
The new Apollo Pro should be their best commuter but will cost 3 times the cost of the City.
Dude you keep mentioning the Segway, as so many reviewers do, but I’ve read horror stories about Segway scooters and the abysmal customer service. No replacement parts especially for those weird size tires you mentioned (10.5”vs10”). And scooters from Segway that don’t even function out of the box. Google it.
completley agree on the water resistance rating, i'm in the UK and it's essential. Plus where i am, the distributor has 8 repair centres, 1 25 miles from me.
Really great video. Was really interested in this scooter but after hearing about some of their business practices and quality issues, I’m a lot less enthused. Seems they are a bit “As Seen on TV”-ish and not being very straight with their customers….
Do you believe these gremlins have been addressed at this point during production of the current generation 2022 Apollo City Pro? Or, do you still recommend waiting for the next updated version? Should we expect a 2023 update to the Apollo City Pro? Do you continue to struggle with the neck clamp?
I do have to tighten the folding mechanism but not often. There should be a 2023 kit on the way very soon. I would wait.
Nick, great vid! Is there the ability to add a side mirror to the left grip like I have on my regular bike to see people/cars behind and to left of me?
Absolutely. I have seen folks add them.
so there is screw in capability as is? no new grips needed? thanks!
In the end there's not a single escooter that can be improved or has problems/design flaws, especially after time -- am curious to see what you would recommend instead.. happily they have a new update re. display, folding latch, kickstand, front turn signals, sticky throttle...
It's still my daily driver. Over 2000 km now. Honestly if the P100S works out the gremlins it might be my top pick.
@niclaporte How come? How's the sudden an unexpected regen brake kick in? So that's gone ?
This is my make or brake decision to buy or not of this scooter. Looks like you don't have problems with it or do you? Any buyers remorse? Thanks.
@@8_x_9. No, I haven't had any issues like that with the brake again. I haven't used it a whole lot since summer began. I prefer to cycle in the nice weather. At about 2200km now.
I am still happy with it and I may get the upgrade kit though I am disappointment that there is no way to upgrade the locking mechanism.
Is this a good scooter company? I have heard good and bad things about Apollo with some people saying they make great scooters and others saying they got scooters with major defects and the support service is almost nonexistent.
I have heard mixed things as well. I have had a good experience with their customer service. They do seem to be one of the good ones, for the most part.
Is the Apollo city recommended for 2024? Went with the Ninebot max g2 last summer, over this. You’re making me feel I made the right choice. However I do wish I could upgrade my suspension, without spending an exorbitant amount of money or doing larger than necessary my max mod kits. Just an added dampener and rubber stopper might suffice. What do you think? 🤔
Would like to see the machine while you’re describing and not your face- you’ve got a beautiful face, I just need to see the suspension and other points while you describe them with a whole view or the entire scooter.
Thanks for the review Brother!!
I recommend Kukirin G3 Pro … Review it
I was going to buy this scooter for 1250$ cad but all these issues make me want to pass. I already had 2 apollo phantoms which were plagued with issues and two apollo cities with dead batteries. Warranty is a joke with Apollo. The company doesn't seem like it changed for the better at all.
When a company plays with the sales integrity in the product slims up a bunch I don’t like the false sales pitching at all
The fake sale happens with distributors as well. Best Buy in U.S. had a count down clock that ended last night but the next day, the price is still $300 off. It seems like the actual price for City dual motor as of this post is $1500. Anything more is a tax on stupid. Anything less is a real sale.
The front motor doesn’t do much for up hills I climb a 21 daily at 16 kmh on my nuiq 2
Why not? At steep hill the weight shifts more to the back motor.