Actually, the arguably most important part of the Milgram experiment is the part that is very consistently left out, which explained how the four different prods affected the subjects. When given the prod, "please continue," many of the subjects did indeed continue, but it wasn't as effective as "the experiment requires that you continue." This is because the subjects most often pushed themselves to continue when they believed that continuing the experiment would benefit the greater good. The last prod, however, "you have no choice but to continue," was the closest the experimenters got to a direct order, and the closest the subject group got to not complying at all. So, it can be argued that the Milgram experiment actually shows that people are more willing to do things when they believe that it is what is right, NOT when they are being ordered to do so.
Reminds me of when I was around 8 years of age. A group of us played together during recess but one day the group decided to bully another kid who was pretty much isolated. The time is was what the group was doing it so I didn't think anything of it, it was "normal". It wasn't until I got home and started watching my daily episode of power rangers, my super heroes fighting for good. I started thinking to myself realized what I had done was wrong and felt guilty. Thankfully my story ends with me apologizing to the kid and inviting him to play with us and he was never bullied again. Still friends to this day.
The funniest thing I got out of watching clips of the Milgram Experiment was an interview with one of the refusers. Refuser: "In my mind, I was hurting that gentleman, so I wasn't going to go any further." Psychologist: "But is there anything Mr Williams [the researcher] could have said [to make you continue]?" Refuser: *Leans back in his chair* "To hell with Mr Williams." *Lights a cigarette LIKE A BOSS*
I'm taking a psychology class at university and I had a class about this yesterday. Watching it like this, with Hank explaining makes it so much better (and easier to remember). I just love crash course so much.
I am so glad I watched this video - it explained to me why all the students in my drama production are all putting so little effort into being expressive. I knew that their desire to be accepted by their peers was part of it, but the idea of social loafing and little individual accountability had not occurred to me. It made me realise that I haven't given them any indication of how they are going to be assessed individually, so at the moment they all think that it's ok to not stand out because the whole group is acting a particular way. I still have some more thinking to do about how to change this situation but it was a big help. Thanks Hank and Crash Course contributors!
We studied 7 different studies in psychology (outline, ethics, strengths, weaknesses, sample, reason, related approaches/psychologists) in our first 3 months and now my brain is like blaarrrugghhh so these videos are absolute lifesavers and are helping me keep it together. Thank you crashcourse !
This is the most recent crash course ive watched in a while and ive gotta say i really appreciate the different colored words in the definitions, and short notes popping up while he's talking. they really help to remember the most important parts and let the information sink in. so much better than having to shorten the info myself in my head.
ive noticed this in my own life because i tend to act differently depending on who im with. If im with someone who tends to be outgoing and more explicit, i am quieter than normal to give them some room. But if im with a group who is timid and reserved, i become more confident and im more exciting. I really only have one friend where i feel completely comfortable.
Wow, that Milgram experiment is pretty scary. Hank! You should consider doing a video about depersonalization while driving. Why road rage happens, and why we generally act the way we do (towards other drivers) while we, ourselves are behind the wheel.
Also, one thing that's really important to know is that simply being aware of these effects, that one is prone to give a wrong answer if others give a wrong answer or the tendency to listen to authority over your conscious, is the best way of keeping yourself from being influenced by them.
This whole comment section consists of "Oh, so *this* is why everyone does X!" Gotta love psychology. You can walk right out of class and start diagnosing your friends.
can i just say something yoy are an absolute saviour. no serious, i have been struggling sooo hard in college with philosophy, psychology etc i always eel pure stupid because i dont understand, but then i found your videos and you have helped me so much, whenevee i strugle with something i just look for your video and i get it almost instantly. maybe my tutors are just making things more complicated than it has to be, but you may have just saved me frok being booted from my course !! thank you!!! x
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Hank, I thank you and the team for such high quality material. I can't believe this is readily accessible to anyone while I have had equivalent content taugh to me in very reputable institutions. Thank you.
I live in Vancouver. We've had two riots over hockey thus far. The first one was in 1994 and a bit unexpected. Right before the second one in 2011, however, many of us were expecting something to go down, and it did. The police chief blamed it on criminal elements but as time went along and more charges were applied, it became clear that many of these people were your average everyday citizens. In almost every situation, it turned out that they were just caught up in the whole thing, and the events of 1994 almost made rioting something "normal" in this kind of situation. It's sad, really. But it is certainly interesting to see how group dynamics can cause everyday people to do things that you normally would not expect.
Learned more from this crash course then my entire university psychology class. Have a final today but have a 98 in the class because of this crash course. Thank you.
This is scarily perfect for what I'm learning about in class right now. Like you summarized an entire article I had to read by Solomon Asch... I love you Hank!!!!
I really wonder how Hank and John Green know so much about many topics in general. I love reading and listening about general topics too. I wish they could one day share what resources they use for that, like books, places they've gone too etc etc
this explains the religious craziness. but most of the time religion is a personal adventure. depends who u r i guess. but yeah i agree... religion can get cray cray
It’s important to note that the subjects of Milgrams experiments were told before the experiment began that the shocks would not inflict permanent damage or kill the learner. Learning this definitely changed how I viewed this experiment. Still sad and scary that ordinary people can ignore the cries of pain that the actors gave, but they believed that there would be no permanent damage. I don’t blame crash course for not being detailed since it’s literally a crash course haha
Could have cried when i saw this.. have a test on conformity and needed a bit of help with some parts.. thank you so much.. so much better then reading through a book
Would be interesting to compare Milgram experiments over a large timescale and with lots areas where social norms are different. Just to see if anything changes.
I'm in the middle of the book, Behind the Shock Machine, about the Milgram experiments. The author did research, going over his results and interviewing subjects, and found that the results were actually the opposite of what was published. 2/3 didn't go to the maximum voltage. The subjects were also told that the shocks were harmless so it could also be interpreted as an experiment in trust rather than just obedience. On top of that he didn't design the experiment very well. Half of his subjects saw through the ruse.
Thanks Hank and all the wonderful people behind this production. Ya'll don't get enough credit for the good you do in informing us ignorant folk. More social psychology episodes would be greatly appreciated!
Thinking for yourself can be isolating. It has been for me, but I wouldn't say I'd rather not think for myself. I think at times I have been influenced to believe/think certain things and I can say that most of those times, if not all, were somehow related to fear. However, I seem to be more immune to social influence then the average person.
I've read that the Milgram experiment was actually not as dramatic as he said and the results excluded participants, as well as included participants who didn't really believe the entire thing was real.
Out of curiosity, what words for working against the group dynamic? EG. You feel with rooting for the underdog when the group is going popular choice, or, when in group activity you feel more likely to put in effect cause you do not wish to be seen as slacking whereas if alone you more likely to loaf.
+Callum McTavish I think 'hipsters' are categorized as being in an autonomous state. When a person is in an autonomous state, they are free to behave according to their own principles, and if they wish to root for the underdog, then they are more likely to do so than if they were in an agentic state.
but it not autonomous, I mean one who action are dictated by the larger group and they actively go in the opposite way. Not rooting for an underdog, but actively seeking to be the underdog, whether it be positive or negative direction. Hipster I think just actively seek self identity, so they just try to be different, not opposite of the larger group. Not sure either can truly said to be autonomous since their action would need the input of larger group they dependent on to define their own actions.
i know what this feels like. when u walk into ur campus cafeteria with some bold fashion statement, a table group simultaneously looks at you, and 4 out of 5 of them look at their hive mind leader who then smiles, shakes their head in dissaproval, and looks away, then they all awkwardly look away as to conform. I at that point know a shock and awe moment was created, and then supressed by other forces not of myself. Now I could make that whole bunch go ahead and mutiny their "leader" by just inviting them to free think about why they do what they do and whos forcing them. But naw, these days I recognise thats their phase of maturity/genuine openess for however long it takes to grow out of it, and Id rather obey reciprocal respect individuals 1 on 1, not some hazing oriented judger clique thats known for being nosy and gossipy about other people's lives or status at school as the "cool ones". Loud, nosy, gossipy, and cant seem to get my name out they mouths, but in the long run Mostly Harmless when youre mentally prepared to filter out what doesnt matter because its not from an adult perspective yet. iOr then again, I could just be butt hurt I was noticed but not acknowledged, for my social braverness experiment for "meme-cringe-couture" on campus I do ironically, to push my discomfort and humility to extremes to overcome a mindless herd safety mechanism mindset)
It seems like all the landmark experiments in the history of psychology that we refer back to all the time would be considered unethical today. Has ethics brought us to a self-imposed end of knowledge?
I've known many people who wouldn't stop walking on the grass if they were told to by an 'authority figure'. I think that either what people perceive as an 'authority figure', or to what extent they feel the need to comply with an 'authority figure', or both, vary depending on the values people are taught as children.
I have watched a tv show of someone doing this and it is pretty interesting. On the show they had a slightly over-weight man who pretended to have heart problems. They paid people to come in and do this experiment (the people had no idea what they were going to do.) They get in the room and they ask the questions to the man and when he got it wrong, the would "shock" him. Some people went all they way because the Dr. who was in the room with them persuaded them to go on and later they felt really guilty. They soon found out it was fake and they said that since they didn't know that they were only doing it because they were told to and it was okay.
I am positive this psychological phenomenon is why the overwhelming majority of humans participate in the eating, wearing and using of animals without giving it a second thought (like the fact that there's a dead animal on their plate that was killed because of that person and others' demand for meat) and why veganism tends to start as an individuality before finding a group and solidifying the beliefs and reasons behind it in group polarization.
for anyone using this as research, small parts are wrong - and an individual mark at A Level (or whatever exam board you're doing) is worth every single one. the shock generator went from 15 Volts to 450 Volts Milgram did not have the volunteers draw straws, they picked names out of the hat - all slips of paper said teacher (hence it being rigged) and Milgram's colleagues would say the opposite (learner) good luck on studying ❤
They featured the Milgram Experiment on last night's episode of Bones. It was about a murdered psychology professor and he was conducting the experiment. It was pretty awesome. You guys should all check it out.
That is the best crash course episode on psychology until now . Its also easy for us to see how the social influence is a product of evolution. By that i mean ,that social influence affects our daily individual way of living, by pointing out that we work as a group more than as individuals . As a group mankind needs to exist in order to survive and fight against other packs of animals or any other natural phenomena . Although as said, we need that 1/3 in order to come closer to what is real and not what serves our needs. In order to be in that 1/3 you need to challenge your inner most nature, which is of course a great battle . Hence, we shall all "Rage against the dying sun " and not just accept the current circumstances.
Completely wrong interpretation at 8:51 . The 1/3 that wouldn't "shock someone to death" would still shock someone to dangerous and frightening levels of 300 volts. No one was a hero.
True, but unless you're a medical doctor, an electrician or someone who otherwise knows a lot about how dangerous shocks are, that number doesn't really mean much to you. Is 300 volts really that much more dangerous than, say, 150? Or 90? Sure, I could look it up, but the Milgram experiment was done in 1961, so that would not have been easy at the time. I don't know why 300 volts is the cut-off point for so many people. It could simply be the point where the "learner" stopped reacting at all, indicating that they have received serious injury. Or maybe that's where the actor switched from expressions of pain to begging the teacher to stop. My point is that putting the "not a hero" line at 300 volts is rather arbitrary. It would probably be fair to put it at giving any electro shocks at all, so the starting 30 volts, but then you're really putting your standards unreasonably high.
If you actually read the experiment, by 300 volts the confederate (student being taught) had already shouted things like "Get me out of here! I refuse to go on with the experiment! Get me out of here! My heart is starting to act up!" When the shock that was supposedly 300 volts was administered, the learner pounded on the wall of his room. At 330 volts the learner let out a great scream of pain and fell silent. Read up, Sonny-boy before you opine! You just sound ignorant!
Ah, so there is a relevance to the 300-volt line. I wasn't aware of that. And as an aside, I just tried to find the original study, but the only thing I found was a nine page article which lists absolutely no protests from the learner before 300 volts and does not mention any shouting from the actor at all.
I would be so interested to see Milgram's obedience experiment repeated but in different countries/cultures. I would hypothesize that there would be more participants that go all the way to 400 volts in countries that have high PDI's (power distance index) and then compare those results with participants from countries with low PDI's.
It begs to ask (considering the topic of this video): are we actually as in control of ourselves (and possibly others whom we are suppose to have authority over, e.g. children, coworkers, teammates, etc) as we might think? Are we, ultimately, doing everything for purely self pursuit, or is everything a means towards ultimately building ourselves further into the broader concept of collective acceptance? Does an aging woman dye her hair for herself, or so that others will like it? Does a baseball player hit a home run for the sake of personal satisfaction, or is it to ultimately gain attention and respect from others? Does an apathetic child in a classroom not assert effort or interest in earning an A because the effort is not linked to attaining new or broadened social status? Who, therefore, is actually in control of our agency?
So blindly following a group is bad, but being rebellious is also bad? That´s why i think many psychological disorders are bullchit. You can find out what brings people to their behavior, but classifying it as if there´s an objective high ground is unscientific.
A side comment for you: Blindly following or rebelling is always bad. You have to make a strong conscious effort to do any form of good in either situation. It may very well be the hardest thing you do in your life.
Milgram's study ignores some dispositional factors, for instance some participants may already have some sadistic inclinations and the experiment gives them a platform through which they can exhibit them.
Wänko I'm sorry, were you making a point there? That is quite the non-sequitur. I can tell you're not worth my time. (aC disengages the moron and flies into space on a magic skateboard)
I wish you guys would make/allow (idk how that works) subtitles. I personally can get by without them most of the time, but not everyone has that luxury.
I saw a doc of footage of the Milgram experiment. Some folks refused to comply pretty quickly. One guy, when being pressured to go on said "I don't know anything about electricity. I don't profess to. " When prodded again he said "Well, you can sure have your five bucks back."
I had to laugh at 7:38 - 48,151,623 views and 48,151,623 likes. :-) Great sense of humor. I would give the strongest shock at the beggining of the experiment saying "Whooops" just to see the reaction of the experimenter, knowing that such an experiment must be a fake. His look would be priceless... And this video explains why I am no member of any group of activists, even thought I cooperated with a couple of them when working on a study two years ago. Why? I see that every group has their own "dogmas" I try to avoid. I know that I am biased too, but that is the reason why I worked with people who had different views. Yes, it was hard but overall the study was better thanks to that... In some cases I had to fight but I knew that I was doing overall good when everybody was dissatisfied with the result (and wanting a change to implement more of their views), as it resembled a compromise and fulfilled the goals I hoped to reach. It was not worth the time and effort anyway, but that is a different story. But that explains my low self esteem and why I am sometimes cynical. Also this remind me of an experience at foruth year of elementary school. The teacher asked how many spark plugs does a common diesel engine have. He propose answers: 3, 4, 5, 6 and 0. He asked how may think it is 3 and counted the hands risen. Ten the same with four, etc... I was the only one who waited and correctly answered that a common diesel engine has 0 spark plugs. Most of the class voted for 4. I do not know why, if they were all stupid or just conformed to the mass of others who did not know that diesel engines have no spark plugs... Today I would also ask if the teacher asked this in every class in all school and what was the purpouse of his question. Back then I did not think as much as today. Or ovethink I guess.
Actually, the arguably most important part of the Milgram experiment is the part that is very consistently left out, which explained how the four different prods affected the subjects. When given the prod, "please continue," many of the subjects did indeed continue, but it wasn't as effective as "the experiment requires that you continue." This is because the subjects most often pushed themselves to continue when they believed that continuing the experiment would benefit the greater good. The last prod, however, "you have no choice but to continue," was the closest the experimenters got to a direct order, and the closest the subject group got to not complying at all. So, it can be argued that the Milgram experiment actually shows that people are more willing to do things when they believe that it is what is right, NOT when they are being ordered to do so.
It took my teacher a month to cover what you said in 13 mins.👍🏽👍🏽
But the video is only 10 minutes... Lol.
it is because he talks faster than your teacher.
10 minutes 7 seconds
13 minutes if you pause it for 3 minutes
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Reminds me of when I was around 8 years of age. A group of us played together during recess but one day the group decided to bully another kid who was pretty much isolated. The time is was what the group was doing it so I didn't think anything of it, it was "normal". It wasn't until I got home and started watching my daily episode of power rangers, my super heroes fighting for good. I started thinking to myself realized what I had done was wrong and felt guilty. Thankfully my story ends with me apologizing to the kid and inviting him to play with us and he was never bullied again. Still friends to this day.
GO GO POWER RANGERS!
Guess Who??? Happy to say I didn't. He's now grown up to be an embalmer so maybe a good thing I got on his good side now.
good guy nappa lol nice man
completely disagree with that.
okay then.
The funniest thing I got out of watching clips of the Milgram Experiment was an interview with one of the refusers.
Refuser: "In my mind, I was hurting that gentleman, so I wasn't going to go any further."
Psychologist: "But is there anything Mr Williams [the researcher] could have said [to make you continue]?"
Refuser: *Leans back in his chair* "To hell with Mr Williams." *Lights a cigarette LIKE A BOSS*
when you don't want to read the chapter but you want to pass the test
true XD
me..
i read the chapter but it was not enough
Amanda Talbot AHAHAHAHHA LMFUDEASSOFF
SO ME RIGHT NOW
I listened to my professor lectures an studied on quizlet now I’m here
I'm taking a psychology class at university and I had a class about this yesterday. Watching it like this, with Hank explaining makes it so much better (and easier to remember). I just love crash course so much.
I am so glad I watched this video - it explained to me why all the students in my drama production are all putting so little effort into being expressive. I knew that their desire to be accepted by their peers was part of it, but the idea of social loafing and little individual accountability had not occurred to me. It made me realise that I haven't given them any indication of how they are going to be assessed individually, so at the moment they all think that it's ok to not stand out because the whole group is acting a particular way. I still have some more thinking to do about how to change this situation but it was a big help. Thanks Hank and Crash Course contributors!
We studied 7 different studies in psychology (outline, ethics, strengths, weaknesses, sample, reason, related approaches/psychologists) in our first 3 months and now my brain is like blaarrrugghhh so these videos are absolute lifesavers and are helping me keep it together. Thank you crashcourse !
This is the most recent crash course ive watched in a while and ive gotta say i really appreciate the different colored words in the definitions, and short notes popping up while he's talking. they really help to remember the most important parts and let the information sink in. so much better than having to shorten the info myself in my head.
ive noticed this in my own life because i tend to act differently depending on who im with. If im with someone who tends to be outgoing and more explicit, i am quieter than normal to give them some room. But if im with a group who is timid and reserved, i become more confident and im more exciting. I really only have one friend where i feel completely comfortable.
Wow, that Milgram experiment is pretty scary. Hank! You should consider doing a video about depersonalization while driving. Why road rage happens, and why we generally act the way we do (towards other drivers) while we, ourselves are behind the wheel.
That's why I love working alone.
Yaume Lepire 🤣
Also, one thing that's really important to know is that simply being aware of these effects, that one is prone to give a wrong answer if others give a wrong answer or the tendency to listen to authority over your conscious, is the best way of keeping yourself from being influenced by them.
This whole comment section consists of "Oh, so *this* is why everyone does X!"
Gotta love psychology. You can walk right out of class and start diagnosing your friends.
Gotta love how Crash Course made their like to dislike ratio non-existent
9k to 53
@@grossio5564 now it's 22k to 227
can i just say something yoy are an absolute saviour. no serious, i have been struggling sooo hard in college with philosophy, psychology etc i always eel pure stupid because i dont understand, but then i found your videos and you have helped me so much, whenevee i strugle with something i just look for your video and i get it almost instantly. maybe my tutors are just making things more complicated than it has to be, but you may have just saved me frok being booted from my course !! thank you!!! x
my social psychology test ia tomorrow crash course always out here Saving lives
This video, should play in every classroom, every day, for the rest of eternity.
PREACH
One novel: Lord of the Flies
This would be why religions work so well.
😂😂😂
Sad, but true. Works for Democracy, Atheism and our one and only supreme Leader Kimmy as well though.
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so well and, sometimes, so anti ethic
Hank, I thank you and the team for such high quality material. I can't believe this is readily accessible to anyone while I have had equivalent content taugh to me in very reputable institutions. Thank you.
Just discovered this and it so amazingly produced
Good to have you. :)
That awkward moment when one top comment, is the exact copy of the other top comment.
It's also known as something that was in the video
Writing a Psychology exam tomorrow and this crash course was absolutely incredible. THANK YOU!
This qualifies as revision, right?
If it helps you sleep better at night, sure!
yes
Hell yeah
I live in Vancouver. We've had two riots over hockey thus far. The first one was in 1994 and a bit unexpected. Right before the second one in 2011, however, many of us were expecting something to go down, and it did. The police chief blamed it on criminal elements but as time went along and more charges were applied, it became clear that many of these people were your average everyday citizens. In almost every situation, it turned out that they were just caught up in the whole thing, and the events of 1994 almost made rioting something "normal" in this kind of situation.
It's sad, really. But it is certainly interesting to see how group dynamics can cause everyday people to do things that you normally would not expect.
i LOVE this channel! it makes learning something actually enjoyable, when school just makes it painful. thank you sooo much for this videos
Thank you, Hank. Right now, you're helping me to not freaking out about my mock tomorrow whilst helping me revise.
Thank you, you are saving me💙
My AS Psychology Paper 1 Exam is in a few hours! Good luck to everyone!!
Same good luck
good luck, I have mine at 13:30.
Mines at half 1 as well. Good luck everyone
+Chanél Amour HI I just had the same exam how did u find it??
omg good luuuuck ..i wanted to take that subject.. score an A ^^
These topics really open up my mind. Im already a working professional but these social topics, helps me understand my coworkers in some sense
Six years later and still our group-think isn't aware of any of this and falls prey to it constantly. Bummer.
These videos on psychology and sociology are absolutely fascinating. Make more !
Another excellent episode! I am loving this series. Psychology has always been very fascinating to me.
Learned more from this crash course then my entire university psychology class. Have a final today but have a 98 in the class because of this crash course. Thank you.
:32 seconds in and I already know he's going to talk about Stanley Milgrim's experiment. #Psych
Same. Pretty much anybody who's been to a school of some sort in the past 10 years knows about it :D
hurting another to safe yourself is pretty common, since defying some authorities comes with risk
so social polarisation = circle jerking
I've been waiting for this topic for SOOOOO LONG! Thanks CrashCourse!
48,000,000 thumbs up? What kind of fantasy world are you living in Hank?!
This is scarily perfect for what I'm learning about in class right now. Like you summarized an entire article I had to read by Solomon Asch... I love you Hank!!!!
These psychology videos are helping me so much with my GCSEs - thank you!!!
if you want to know more about the subject I recomend the book or movie: "the wave". bassed on a real story in a real high school.
I really wonder how Hank and John Green know so much about many topics in general. I love reading and listening about general topics too. I wish they could one day share what resources they use for that, like books, places they've gone too etc etc
So you've basically explained the science behind religious crazies.
Politics generally
Particually the extreme ends of the spectrum.
***** Yes, The right.
And left
this explains the religious craziness. but most of the time religion is a personal adventure. depends who u r i guess. but yeah i agree... religion can get cray cray
It’s important to note that the subjects of Milgrams experiments were told before the experiment began that the shocks would not inflict permanent damage or kill the learner. Learning this definitely changed how I viewed this experiment. Still sad and scary that ordinary people can ignore the cries of pain that the actors gave, but they believed that there would be no permanent damage.
I don’t blame crash course for not being detailed since it’s literally a crash course haha
thank you for slowing down. first couple of videos I had to rewind so many times. I have learned so much from him.
5:30 Couldn't avoid feeling the deepest soul of a nerd showing his feelings hahaha :)
I love this episode of Crash Course; it fits in perfectly with my psychology course :D
Could have cried when i saw this.. have a test on conformity and needed a bit of help with some parts.. thank you so much.. so much better then reading through a book
Would be interesting to compare Milgram experiments over a large timescale and with lots areas where social norms are different. Just to see if anything changes.
Yeah, interesting.
Now the information I had from IB psychology just became clearer. Thank You Hank Green.
I'm in the middle of the book, Behind the Shock Machine, about the Milgram experiments. The author did research, going over his results and interviewing subjects, and found that the results were actually the opposite of what was published. 2/3 didn't go to the maximum voltage. The subjects were also told that the shocks were harmless so it could also be interpreted as an experiment in trust rather than just obedience. On top of that he didn't design the experiment very well. Half of his subjects saw through the ruse.
I had my headphones in and every time he put on a definition I thought someone was farting I was so lost
great video and great serie. I personally suggest to speak at lower speed, so it can be understand in all over the world
Thanks Hank and all the wonderful people behind this production. Ya'll don't get enough credit for the good you do in informing us ignorant folk. More social psychology episodes would be greatly appreciated!
This guy reminds me of young Stephen Hawking.
Me me Yep. Eddie Redmayne's portrayal of a young Stephen Hawking looks identical to Hank Green in an uncanny fashion.
~ TDG
You mean crippled and filled with an impending sense of doom?
Alann Hod excuse me?
I wish you were in intro to psychology teacher in undergrad. You explained the studies without bias. Loved the video!
I really like the wrap up in the end.Because is leaves us wit a reminder or summary of what was learned.
How many of you are here becuase watching this video was part of an assignment. I'll go first..me.
where are your souces, Hank? I am writing a paper about this stuff and this is golden!
This is a great video, and makes me really excited to continue studying social psychology.
Thinking for yourself can be isolating. It has been for me, but I wouldn't say I'd rather not think for myself.
I think at times I have been influenced to believe/think certain things and I can say that most of those times, if not all, were somehow related to fear.
However, I seem to be more immune to social influence then the average person.
Wow imagine that came here to do my homework and everything the dude said went right over my head!
I've read that the Milgram experiment was actually not as dramatic as he said and the results excluded participants, as well as included participants who didn't really believe the entire thing was real.
And this is why i love this channel. Please more vids like this one.
This needs to be shared anew!
Out of curiosity, what words for working against the group dynamic? EG. You feel with rooting for the underdog when the group is going popular choice, or, when in group activity you feel more likely to put in effect cause you do not wish to be seen as slacking whereas if alone you more likely to loaf.
+Callum McTavish hipster ;P jk
+Callum McTavish I think 'hipsters' are categorized as being in an autonomous state. When a person is in an autonomous state, they are free to behave according to their own principles, and if they wish to root for the underdog, then they are more likely to do so than if they were in an agentic state.
but it not autonomous, I mean one who action are dictated by the larger group and they actively go in the opposite way. Not rooting for an underdog, but actively seeking to be the underdog, whether it be positive or negative direction. Hipster I think just actively seek self identity, so they just try to be different, not opposite of the larger group. Not sure either can truly said to be autonomous since their action would need the input of larger group they dependent on to define their own actions.
I'm not sure then, I'm just going off an A-level text book here
You be amazed how much of that you use to get into University and then throw away when you learn new stuff AT university :P
i know what this feels like. when u walk into ur campus cafeteria with some bold fashion statement, a table group simultaneously looks at you, and 4 out of 5 of them look at their hive mind leader who then smiles, shakes their head in dissaproval, and looks away, then they all awkwardly look away as to conform. I at that point know a shock and awe moment was created, and then supressed by other forces not of myself. Now I could make that whole bunch go ahead and mutiny their "leader" by just inviting them to free think about why they do what they do and whos forcing them. But naw, these days I recognise thats their phase of maturity/genuine openess for however long it takes to grow out of it, and Id rather obey reciprocal respect individuals 1 on 1, not some hazing oriented judger clique thats known for being nosy and gossipy about other people's lives or status at school as the "cool ones". Loud, nosy, gossipy, and cant seem to get my name out they mouths, but in the long run Mostly Harmless when youre mentally prepared to filter out what doesnt matter because its not from an adult perspective yet. iOr then again, I could just be butt hurt I was noticed but not acknowledged, for my social braverness experiment for "meme-cringe-couture" on campus I do ironically, to push my discomfort and humility to extremes to overcome a mindless herd safety mechanism mindset)
It seems like all the landmark experiments in the history of psychology that we refer back to all the time would be considered unethical today. Has ethics brought us to a self-imposed end of knowledge?
I've known many people who wouldn't stop walking on the grass if they were told to by an 'authority figure'. I think that either what people perceive as an 'authority figure', or to what extent they feel the need to comply with an 'authority figure', or both, vary depending on the values people are taught as children.
I have watched a tv show of someone doing this and it is pretty interesting. On the show they had a slightly over-weight man who pretended to have heart problems. They paid people to come in and do this experiment (the people had no idea what they were going to do.) They get in the room and they ask the questions to the man and when he got it wrong, the would "shock" him. Some people went all they way because the Dr. who was in the room with them persuaded them to go on and later they felt really guilty. They soon found out it was fake and they said that since they didn't know that they were only doing it because they were told to and it was okay.
"role-models of defiance" ... love that.
Actually, I'd keep walking on the grass....I would help the old lady though!
All the Sims references in your Courses make me happy. And I caught your motherlode +50,000 add-in in your previous episode.
I am positive this psychological phenomenon is why the overwhelming majority of humans participate in the eating, wearing and using of animals without giving it a second thought (like the fact that there's a dead animal on their plate that was killed because of that person and others' demand for meat) and why veganism tends to start as an individuality before finding a group and solidifying the beliefs and reasons behind it in group polarization.
You have no choice but to continue...
reading this comment :p
Damn it I fell for it.
Awesome
for anyone using this as research, small parts are wrong - and an individual mark at A Level (or whatever exam board you're doing) is worth every single one.
the shock generator went from 15 Volts to 450 Volts
Milgram did not have the volunteers draw straws, they picked names out of the hat - all slips of paper said teacher (hence it being rigged) and Milgram's colleagues would say the opposite (learner)
good luck on studying ❤
They featured the Milgram Experiment on last night's episode of Bones. It was about a murdered psychology professor and he was conducting the experiment. It was pretty awesome. You guys should all check it out.
That is the best crash course episode on psychology until now .
Its also easy for us to see how the social influence is a product of evolution.
By that i mean ,that social influence affects our daily individual way of living, by pointing out that we work as a group more than as individuals .
As a group mankind needs to exist in order to survive and fight against other packs of animals or any other natural phenomena . Although as said, we need that 1/3 in order to come closer to what is real and not what serves our needs.
In order to be in that 1/3 you need to challenge your inner most nature, which is of course a great battle .
Hence, we shall all "Rage against the dying sun " and not just accept the current circumstances.
I love Hank and John
I love these videos. Everyone who worked on this is exemplary. Even if they are socially loafing.
You can now add covid19 after you say Chernobyl
The infamous Milgram experiment. Scary stuff.
Completely wrong interpretation at 8:51 . The 1/3 that wouldn't "shock someone to death" would still shock someone to dangerous and frightening levels of 300 volts. No one was a hero.
True, but unless you're a medical doctor, an electrician or someone who otherwise knows a lot about how dangerous shocks are, that number doesn't really mean much to you. Is 300 volts really that much more dangerous than, say, 150? Or 90?
Sure, I could look it up, but the Milgram experiment was done in 1961, so that would not have been easy at the time. I don't know why 300 volts is the cut-off point for so many people. It could simply be the point where the "learner" stopped reacting at all, indicating that they have received serious injury. Or maybe that's where the actor switched from expressions of pain to begging the teacher to stop.
My point is that putting the "not a hero" line at 300 volts is rather arbitrary. It would probably be fair to put it at giving any electro shocks at all, so the starting 30 volts, but then you're really putting your standards unreasonably high.
If you actually read the experiment, by 300 volts the confederate (student being taught) had already shouted things like "Get me out of here! I refuse to go on with the experiment! Get me out of here! My heart is starting to act up!"
When the shock that was supposedly 300 volts was administered, the learner pounded on the wall of his room. At 330 volts the learner let out a great scream of pain and fell silent.
Read up, Sonny-boy before you opine! You just sound ignorant!
Ah, so there is a relevance to the 300-volt line. I wasn't aware of that.
And as an aside, I just tried to find the original study, but the only thing I found was a nine page article which lists absolutely no protests from the learner before 300 volts and does not mention any shouting from the actor at all.
Oh, what could I do without these? ♡
WUT meme lady 0:08
I would be so interested to see Milgram's obedience experiment repeated but in different countries/cultures. I would hypothesize that there would be more participants that go all the way to 400 volts in countries that have high PDI's (power distance index) and then compare those results with participants from countries with low PDI's.
whoops i just saw the next part and realized what i asked is actually answered next.
Rob Martin its called nationalism, my boy. its a social disease
Why he is talking so fast?
Because he's Hank Green
Just slow the video down
Mostly because of your mom
He's not...
Because you're slow
It begs to ask (considering the topic of this video): are we actually as in control of ourselves (and possibly others whom we are suppose to have authority over, e.g. children, coworkers, teammates, etc) as we might think? Are we, ultimately, doing everything for purely self pursuit, or is everything a means towards ultimately building ourselves further into the broader concept of collective acceptance? Does an aging woman dye her hair for herself, or so that others will like it? Does a baseball player hit a home run for the sake of personal satisfaction, or is it to ultimately gain attention and respect from others? Does an apathetic child in a classroom not assert effort or interest in earning an A because the effort is not linked to attaining new or broadened social status? Who, therefore, is actually in control of our agency?
Does it matter why we made a choice if it is a choice?
So blindly following a group is bad, but being rebellious is also bad? That´s why i think many psychological disorders are bullchit. You can find out what brings people to their behavior, but classifying it as if there´s an objective high ground is unscientific.
A side comment for you: Blindly following or rebelling is always bad. You have to make a strong conscious effort to do any form of good in either situation. It may very well be the hardest thing you do in your life.
Excellent ending.
Milgram's study ignores some dispositional factors, for instance some participants may already have some sadistic inclinations and the experiment gives them a platform through which they can exhibit them.
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Hank/Thought Bubble. I love that you guys sneaked a reference to The Best Cry Ever! I was tearing up XD
Feminists.
Indeed.
awkwardCrabwalk How many maidens put out after you "saved" them?
Wänko
I'm sorry, were you making a point there? That is quite the non-sequitur. I can tell you're not worth my time.
(aC disengages the moron and flies into space on a magic skateboard)
Equality!
Extremists*
I wish you guys would make/allow (idk how that works) subtitles. I personally can get by without them most of the time, but not everyone has that luxury.
This explains lynching and lynching post cards too.
This was honestly quite shocking!
I saw a doc of footage of the Milgram experiment. Some folks refused to comply pretty quickly. One guy, when being pressured to go on said "I don't know anything about electricity. I don't profess to. " When prodded again he said "Well, you can sure have your five bucks back."
I had to laugh at 7:38 - 48,151,623 views and 48,151,623 likes. :-) Great sense of humor.
I would give the strongest shock at the beggining of the experiment saying "Whooops" just to see the reaction of the experimenter, knowing that such an experiment must be a fake. His look would be priceless...
And this video explains why I am no member of any group of activists, even thought I cooperated with a couple of them when working on a study two years ago. Why? I see that every group has their own "dogmas" I try to avoid. I know that I am biased too, but that is the reason why I worked with people who had different views. Yes, it was hard but overall the study was better thanks to that... In some cases I had to fight but I knew that I was doing overall good when everybody was dissatisfied with the result (and wanting a change to implement more of their views), as it resembled a compromise and fulfilled the goals I hoped to reach. It was not worth the time and effort anyway, but that is a different story. But that explains my low self esteem and why I am sometimes cynical.
Also this remind me of an experience at foruth year of elementary school. The teacher asked how many spark plugs does a common diesel engine have. He propose answers: 3, 4, 5, 6 and 0. He asked how may think it is 3 and counted the hands risen. Ten the same with four, etc... I was the only one who waited and correctly answered that a common diesel engine has 0 spark plugs. Most of the class voted for 4. I do not know why, if they were all stupid or just conformed to the mass of others who did not know that diesel engines have no spark plugs... Today I would also ask if the teacher asked this in every class in all school and what was the purpouse of his question. Back then I did not think as much as today. Or ovethink I guess.