The Gran Turismo Exploit Which Makes You Much Faster
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Another day, another exploit in GT7. Love it.
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My thoughts! Well INITIAL D!
What's the technique again ?
Nvm it's gutter run
I'm disappointed it took so long to find this comment (4th comment :D this should be #1!)
Dude! I’m glad someone else thought, that’s some Initial D shit!
Tacummy Fujiwanker 🤨
drink every time he says very close indeed
Momoz is in the lobby, legend
MichaelDolences 😂😂
pov: you watched too much initial D
Tofu delivery must've moved on from a dinky 86 to a gr3 german beetle.
Takumi
Yep, wheel disconnected, great race tho and absolutely insane livery 🔥
Did you think you would be in a vid during the race Digit? Wheel disconnect disappointing 😞
@@WillArtie Well, you never know I guess
dang that sucks, i enjoyed the battle. better luck next time
Is a wheel disconnecting about the same as having a random car malfunction in an actual race? lol
Super GT wavers between calling it an exploit and a technique but I think the only exploit here is the tires aren't taking extra damage
Right!!!
Its an exploit stop making bad excuses
@@danielstokker it’s a joke stop being a hard head
@@danielstokker it's fun!! They should leave it in but it should REALLY mess up your tires, even if tire wear is turned off. Like a last lap last resort kind of tool. RISK AND REWARD!!
I think that’s fair
that TT beetle looks honestly terrifying. Beautifully cursed livery
i thought it was a bentley from the thumbnail and i was honestly so confused
@@raouldmello5094 same
i dig it.
i remember having the subaru rally livery for an evo in GTS.
things like a calsonic supra, raybrig rx7, and renown civic is just very clever and neat to me.
@@joshuaxiong8377 you would like the lancer sti, the 350g and rxyata. A tiktok er made them
I like to think they left it in so you could Initial D it. My thoughts are they really need to make it so you can't stay within track limits and ride that kerb, it's really utilising the maximum of what's legal in the game, but it was somewhat badly defined by Polyphony. I class this as a different level of issue to the Daytona skip.
I think some of it is just an interaction between the underside, the tire wall and curb. Maybe they need to smooth the inside of the curb
Wait whats the daytona skip?
I mean in reality you could do it on a curb high enough, its just that you'd also debead the tyre and probably rip out the suspension on a fast enough corner lol. Would be good if GT simulated tyre damage (to the point of instant destruction if you cocked it up completely) to eliminate this sort of thing.
@@skilfil that's probably a lot more complicated than it needs to be, as a person who works with programmers, I can only imagine the number of unintended interactions that would cause
what daytona skip
In my rally days, this was known as 'ditch hooking'. Very fast but very dangerous.
Exactly it's a very real technique and The Physics are realistic. All its missing is tyre damage to the inner wall. Definitely not cheating but there should be some downside to using it especially with Gr.3.
Yea it's used in V8 supercars here in Aus but only at one track for one corner.
@@Wiiillllson151 maybe real but I am pretty sure it is impossible on those curbs, they are to low. Also the rubber would cut so fast you won't make it past the first turn. On top of that, this is very risky and even if drivers could it would be banned. You would be driving with 2 wheels on gravel to hook a 1 cm curb... and not spin or crash into others? Right..... This is not rally, this is circuit racing.
I noticed this the day GT7 launched. Now I'm the fastest down Mt. Akina
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Immediately thought of Initial D when I saw the curb being used. All you need now is to use a panda AE-86.
I take the curb sometimes but to be honest I didn't think of it as cheating. I know rally drivers use that technique, I do think they should make the tires that takes the curb wear out faster though maybe reduce a bit of speed if using technique longer than 2 seconds
They just need to add those tiny speed bumps there to fix it
A normal damage model that breaks your aero would make you think 5 times before doing it.
Ken block made a video recently showing how he does EXACTLY this IRL all the time. Not only is it NOT cheating, but it is very real.
Bruhh your totally exploiting a bug.... so ... cheating end of story
@@davidfordyoyoguy I don't want this removed from the game, I want the chance of damage be severely high - I feel the game's handling and FFB are excellent, but the people just drive like it's a Wipeout game instead of a sim because there are no consequences for risk takers.
Europe account: Great, clean racing
US account: Instant ramming
Pretty much got penalties over 5 to 10 seconds for rammers
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Gran Turismo 7 pays homage to initial drift. Nice. I knew it the moment i hooked into the ditch for the first time. I just sped through insane speeds and got the feel exactly what takumi feels every time he hooks.
Its initial dream my guy
Sounds like deja vu
Hey just saying the D initial D actually stands for Dream not Drift
@@Joopyter724 yes i have no idwa why I wrote drift. I even have no memory of writting drift lmao.
@@sermerlin1 haha we've all been there lol
It reminds me of the carousel in the Nordschliefe, you have to get that angle just right on that grey tarmac and carry the speed all the way around to get the best angle for the exit
That carousel entry and exit was really messed up before the 1.13 update
Funny you should say that, it was known as the Caracciola Karusell because he used to drop a wheel over the kerb.
@@samiraperi467 That's such a cool fact, I love that you know that
@@22noobtube Yeah I meant in real life too
I got it right once on the carousel (in real life), spat me out at what felt like a 45 degree angle across the track, but such a fast exit!
Initial D proving its realism once more
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Hahaha I was looking for this comment. Maybe even make it "very close indeed" 😂
Indeed, I’m drunk asf 2 minutes into this video. 🥃
The ultimate Eurobeat line.
Scott Chegg must be part of some secret lobby where all the names are incredible puns because I do not run into names that creative
Takumi approves
The current B.o.P. is quite a strange one for me as in GT Sport my two favourite cars were the WRX and the Beetle. I am really pleased that they are both represented so well currently, especially the Beetle, always a lovely handling car but never truly competitive with high end speed. Despite this I find myself longing for the day when any Gr.3 or 4 car has an equal opportunity to grab a podium, it is sure to eventually arrive, the sooner the better. When it does you will no doubt still see me in either of those cars as it ever was so.
I think that you did exceptionally well to manage the hook ups on the train tracks and I also believe it to have been a wise decision not to employ it during the race, it could quickly go horribly wrong. A real shame that Digit suffered with technical difficulties as that was a very exciting race and he, like you, is an exceptional driver and likeable person.
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0:10 Sorry, that is no exploit, that is reality.
That is Initial D master level of player to know to use that curb to keep the car on track
Initial d is real.....
@@andreweedy2765 initial d was inspired after real life. You can find vidsof racecar pilots doing the advanced things portrayed in that title.
@@ElGoogKO You see, my friend's a mechanic. And I've had him look at this:
Is it possible? Yes
Would any racer do it? Fuck no. It's extremely tire expensive and puts unneeded stresses on the suspension, if it can even survive it. You need a suspension meant to take a beating like a gutter run to actually do the gutter run without fucking your car up
@@lucasgamezz140 Ken Block just recently made a video showing how he does EXACTLY this IRL. It is real and to some people, money is no issue.
The series was made with assistance from Keiichi Tsuchiya, they knew what they were talking about.
Yeah i think this is intentional because of Initial D. I hope they keep those physics in but just make it outside of track limits and give you a penalty
Could add chance of engine damage especially if you're really lowered. It'd be just like nordschleife IRL. All those porches dropping their guts all the time.
honestly i think this kind of "accidental mechanic"(to put it in a positive light) is kinda cool. Everyone can do it (meaning you don't need a special kind of equipment or a cheat program) and it only makes you like a second or two faster but its something you can only do on specific tracks. It gives the game a cool kind of risky maneuver you can try if you're behind.
Kerb Boosting finds its way to GT7 it seems
A fellow GTA Online player I see
ayo the gutter run
Didn't you watch Initial D? Everyone knows that "trick" 😂
What's that technique again?
Nvm it's gutter run
Those gutters are not there in GT Sport, so I wonder why Polyphony changed it for GT7. Maybe one of their developers was a fan of Initial D and did it deliberately for it to be exploited.
That's exactly why
they didn't change the track kerb depth. the tire model changed, sidewalls unrealistically stiff make this gutter shit possible
I feel like its only cheating if its Easy enough to do with minimal effort AND its an instant boost while completely skipping significant portions of the track (Like the Goodwood shortcut or the Willow Springs one from GT Sport). The fact that this takes actual skill and specific factors (The angle, the amount and trajectory) to make it work while staying on track, albeit barely, makes it more an exploit. A difficult one and somewhat edgy one, but a exploit. I tend to feel the biggest difference between cheating and simply exploiting something is the amount of effort relative to the gain you achieve.
I kinda like when difficult things like this are in the game, brings alot of skill to the time trials and adds a way for you to come back in a do or die race
Skill would be to get the fastest time possible while staying in the spirit of the game - sportsmanship - not trying to find exploits or ways that are clearly not realistically going to be attempted IRL.
It's definetly going to be nerfed, make no question the devs don't want players to race like this.
COM DRIVE if they do that does that mean the leader of the tome trial is gauranteed 1st for eternity?
@@pa6552 This "gutter run" technique is actually pretty realistic, if it would give you such a speed boost and if it would mess the tires up really quick. It can be done in real life, tho its way too high risk to use it on every corner. Maybe if it gets nerfed in the game it could be a really fun technique
I think this exploit was also available in daily race B at Interlagos two weeks ago, but not as powerful since you can only do it at turn 3. It did feel like I had way less understeer if I was riding the curb correctly.
Loved that first race where the croatian sadly dropped off.
Do you think you'll do tournament races again like you did in GTS against people like ruzwald and ollie?
Those were my favorite videos of yours.
Another week, no new videos.
This works in real life on gutters etc and is pretty hard to pull off perfectly also, so I wouldn't necessarily call it an exploit but I don't think they've done this on purpose, most kerbs I've come across on a real track can seriously upset the car 😅
Genuine question though, if it wasn't for the risk factor, and you had the right suspension, camber, etc, wouldn't this work in real life too? Like didn't they make it illegal in nascar or indy 500 to ride the bottom bit of the oval? You know where you have one wheel on the flat and one on the bank, I think It's faster but less safe
When I was involved in rallying, it was known as 'ditch hooking'. When it worked there were massive times to be gained. If there was a rock on the inside, wave goodbye to your suspension!
@@Jailhouse_Chris Yes exactly, that's a great point, there's merit to the technique, I'm wondering how much of this "exploit" is a physics exploit in the game, or rather a result of accurately modelled real life physics? After all, it's not like many people get to test this kind of thing in real life. However, giving your insightful rallying comment, perhaps people have tested in real life to some extent after all. I'm very curious to know if this is a real phenomena.
When I look at it, I think it actually is. I'm a programmer, not a physicist or professional racing driver, or track designer, whatever. But I understand it enough, I'm thinking this can happen in real life too. I think the curb is ireellevent almost, its that they're catching a camber angle that is keeping the wheels rotating nicely, ultimately riding the apex as close in as possible. I think you can gain time with this in real life but it's super risky and difficult to do, so in real life, it's not really an option. Whether it's accurate in game, well Idk. GT7 isn't the most realistic anyway. But, someone please answer this lol. My adhd autistic brain is going mental 😂
@@justamanchimp im no expert but i can image it would affect tirewear immensely.
The technique works, but not in this environment, the small lip the tire grabs onto ingame would most likely not be enough to pull the car in irl
@@woutervanderidder8417 This could be the solution in game
Tbh, you're one of few GT youtuber that says "exploit" instead of cheating or illegal as some clickbaits, it's physics broken or whatever but surely it's not same level as wall riding at BMB and Sardegna B reverse layout.
GT should keep the “exploit” and make it cause more tire damage and it could be a valid technique and used when needed to
I agree. It is legit when it comes to driving physics, but at what cost? That is what the players need to weigh out.
@@Eat-MyGoal im just saying instead of nerfing it, it can make for some interesting races 🤷🏾♂️ and i dont have shares so my money isn’t on anything. so what does it matter anyway
@@Eat-MyGoal also In GT 6 they have sections on their tire that change temps at different rates. I dont think it would be that hard for devs to have a similar program to add physics to sidewalls. But it also might be tough. But not impossible. Not that big of a deal. I just think it would be interesting
@@Eat-MyGoal they're not going to do shit lmao. PD are senile at this point they can't fix the bugs fast enough.
In the world of rally this is called gutter grabbing and it does actually work IRL to make you faster through the bends.
I should point out that the stewards likely gave Scott Chegg those meaty penalties entirely because of that Kyle Busch livery.
Kevin De Bruyne is into GT I see
Jaja thought the same
I see Kevin changed nationality, and I never knew he drove for R8G.
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@@Kajdebruin 😳
The theme of this video is how "close indeed" things are. :)
Hey super gt I have this idea for a really cool racing series I was curious if you would perhaps what to join it’s 45 min endurance racing with tunes and you would need a partner in the same vehicle (your team)
I wish PD would rebalance the BOP. It’s a shame that if you want to do well in Gr4 you need the WRX. And Gr3 you need the Beetle.
Agree 100%. Need some others buffed. Love to see the Ferarri Porsche and McLarens competitive
100% agree, seeing all these same cars gets old fast, would love a more diverse car pool during races.
I wouldn’t mind if this one stayed - its difficult to execute and makes the races a whole lot more interesting. That said, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was patched out.
This is why the chicane of Doom is so unpredictable. Does it still work with off track grip reduced to minimum though?
when the servers are eventually taken off for good nobody will be able to play this regardless if they have internet or not. The game is tied to having to be online only to function. And that's great if people don't mind losing their game when they do eventually pull the plug but it's going to be a bit off a shock to those ignorant to this model
10 years ago today (May 22), you uploaded your first video! Keep up the hard work man
Is this an exploit or a technique? Nothing more than drivers pushing the track limits as they do in real life, learn it and use it until it gets banned :)
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Don't rally cars do this? So the physics isn't necessarily broken (however lower cars would be shot). But I think having it in the game adds to higher skill gap, there just needs to be a downside. I.E. More tire wear, dirtiness so the next couple corners require more precision, or even it requires a certain set up or tires. I like it, but I miss variety in games. That's why I no longer play sports games. Besides the main title you lack options. Football for example, we have only Madden now, but we used to have variety like Street, Blitz, NFL Fever, etc. Anyways, what I'm getting at is if we are stuck with basically 1 title I'd prefer more options then just the "META." Seeing 1 car in a lobby of 12+ makes the game fun for about 45min before you change the game...
Where would a rally car ever do this? There aren’t any kerbs/curbs on dirt roads 🫠
I agree. And it’s not even Rally cars. Look at Seb Vettel’s pole lap at Mexico 2017 in the snake section in sector 2. It’s totally normal amd maybe people are complaining because they aren’t gaining the time??😂
@@kabob21 there are natural "curbs" and gutters that do form, also many rally races include dirt and road. Have you ever watched rally cars before? You should treat yourself cause it sounds like you haven't
The issue is specifically how/where it does it, notice how it's a literal 5cm (~2in) tall wall, on cars with slicks which would be going into dirt, whilst the opposite side would be getting pushed outside by the shape of the curbs, not to speak of how the underside would be gone from all the scraping
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2 Select Space Cowboy
3 Dig your wheel into the gutter
I really hope they fix these kerbs ASAP because im honestly not happy with my WR
You're consistently so quick in GT7 Kaj, you've really nailed these new physics. Even without the kerb exploits!
Initial D at its finest that's a real simulator!!!
I love how in the race with digit, you and them pulled away from every other racer 🤣
I knew my life was missing something.. a Super GT video
GT7 players discover the fujiwara zone
GTA curb boosting makes its way into a racing sim.
Alternate timeline achieved.
I prefer the compression boost you get when going over bumps in gta
It don't work 🤨 well in online races are least for me bc people keep ramming me nd shit
The fact the Beetle is the go-to Gr 3 car is problem enough. And I'm an Audi fan.
Ah yes. The real driving simulator
This can be done in real life
I used it for time trial and I think the first day of the daily races last week, but in the end during the race I was faster without the curb "glitch". As you said it's hard to get right even on one lap, let alone during the whole race distance.
I think my fastest race time was 18:14, which really was not bad. With the glitch during the race, I usually ended up making more mistakes and therefore a worse race time.
is the dashboard of that beetle labeled golf a joke?? looks like a child designed it
Takumi would be proud.
Hope your doing well mate looking forward to the next video
Id say its a fair exploit... for the brave.. just like Takumi, had to step it up to be the best!
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Its not much of an exploit if it is harder to do than driving normally
Driving normally lol is better at least for me
i think you can do something similar in dragon tail with the curbs.
one time when i pass the final chicane with my nsx gr3 race car before i took the final hairpin (im not sure if it's actualy a hairpin) i hooked my inner tires in the inside of the curb and it send my flying trough the curve and it made do a faster lap by 2 second
MichaelDolences officially the goat name of motorsport industry, beats you by 6 seconds, and then leaves a kind message too. what a hero!
“Real driving simulator”
The Audi livery is amazing
When is the next live session?
Glad to see Takumi still racing! ;)
A Porsche livery on the Beetle would be the dankest meme in the history of motorsport
Porsche be proud of that Beetle
I mean technically we had it in sport as well, just wasn't this fast.
Super GT loves Initial D! Rally drivers actually use this technique as I'm sure Super GT is aware of.
The title should be initial d on gt7 👌
Personally I don't see this as "cheating". Whether it's realistic or not is irrelevant, it's in the game and everyone has the opportunity to do it so fairs fair. It's up to Polyphony to remove it if some players feel it's cheating.
When the game calls itself a sim, being realistic is make makes it relevant. Not curb roller coasters.
@@andreweedy2765 yeah I get that but it’s their fault it’s in the game. In competition people will always look for even the smallest advantage they can find and they’ll use it until they can’t
@@MrDana93 so remove it. Gone for everyone. Problem solved.
It ain't cheating, but it's still an exploit
@@tiagobelo4965 precisely. Just because it’s available to everyone doesn’t mean it’s beneficial to the immersion of the simulator.
Rally drivers legit do that - but that's like on the broken edge of a road with a deep dip, rather than a nicely rounded kerb
its not nicely rounded, you can see its a sharp edge
Vector Traction. When one side of the car has less traction, it changes the direction of acceleration which changes to the side with less traction.
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Straight to the Point WD Ahahah
Looked forward to this game for a long time. Even bought the new fanatec GT wheel for it. One thing I absolutely dreaded in GT sport was the menu and navigating it. GT7 made that ten time worse. With all the dumb clicking in between races. ah well. deleted the game and now happily back to ACC with the ps5 update.
GT7 is a colossal waste of time. I pity the people who bought the hype again
It's to prepare for the upcoming Scalextric DLC
You okay out there, GT ??
Heck yeah been waiting all week!! Was worried mate
"Has a perpendicular meeting with the barrier" lmao i love that
Everyone will say that this is an exploit until they introduce the Initial D mode.
This was difficult for you I imagine , because you're a CLEAN Driver for the most part. These are the kind of exploits figured out by the DIRTY Driver in order to compensate, so they can keep up, or occasionally win. I missed the initial Engine Swap glitch, but there's probably a workaround available. I don't have this game to confirm, but it's just a RUclips search away.
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!!! GUTTER RUN COMFIRMED !!!
TAKUMI FUGIWARA Technique !! Son of Bunta LIVES On ! INITIAL D ! Try it with C7 .. Great things Happen !! Thanks SuperGT 💪👌
Life may be topsy turvy, but some things never change. And that includes regular Super GT videos filled with banter, people smashing themselves off, and the odd bit of actual good, clean racing.
Definately nice and comforting to come back to another Super GT video with so much in the world being totally messed up.
Hey superGt..love your videos man, been subbed for a long time! But I commented on Kerith's vid I thing because people claim that it's cheating...and I said there whay you're saying now...it's not easy to do or get dead right. I say if you're a fast racer then you are fast regardless of the exploit or not...yes it may save you a second or so...but the people that are complaining are running times that are 5-10 or more secs off the top times, I use controller and Toyota Ft-1 and my best time around is 2:18.537 and when I first saw top times they were around 2:15...so I was happy because I was improving. My 1st few times were 2:24-..but the fact that you can really ride a curb like that in theory makes me have no problem with people doing it...
AGAIN LOVE your videos man and Please keep up the Great work...
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I feel like i seen this technique before
Higher on the mountains, and I know its my time to like this video
Calling you, and the code is a mystery
Standing on my feet, Its so hard to be Super GT. Yeaaaaahhh