@@RogerWakefield I’ve always enjoyed your content I’ve always wanted to get into plumbing to be honest So I’m gonna see if I can also go through a trade school
I’m an electrician who went to trade school. Got 900 hours of classroom training. Best decision I ever made as it gave me so much knowledge of electricity from an atomic level all the way up to what actually goes on in the field. They even helped with job placement and landed me a job at a local shop. Understanding not only how to do the work but WHY has made me a great young up and coming electrician. To me, whatever you put into something is what you get out of it. If you take trade school seriously then it will take you seriously. If not, well then it’s a waste. You need to admit you don’t know something in order to learn and that means setting aside pride which is something that’s hard for people in the trades to do.
Yea everyone that’s told me to go to trade school instead of the union all say the same thing. They learned way more in a shorter time and get paid just as much as a 5 year apprentice in just 2ish years after school
Hey Roger. On Monday I start my plumbing apprenticeship , I am very excited. Been doing some light plumbing during kitchen and bathroom remodels. And decided to go full into plumbing. Been a carpenter for 4 years now ima be a plumber 😊
@@babyface6106 I make 28$/hr as a 4yrs experienced carpenter (I live in Connecticut). Decided to go to plumbing cause I really enjoyed the plumbing part of the remodels I’ve done. Dont get me wrong, I love carpentry too. But the pay is better in plumbing.
@@johnsushi2007 yeah It is kinda low I think. My first official day as a plumber was great. We were working on a master bath remodel doing the rough-in. Toilet and vanity were relocated and got to do the soldering for the water lines. (im not new to solder, I’ve done it before as a carpenter while remodeling). It was really fun. Hopefully we’ll pass inspection on Wednesday.
I went to ATI here in Vegas for HVAC. It was an amazing help to my career. I had a new job within 3 months of graduating, and got a $9/hr raise to boot!! Trade School is definitely a good thing.
Trade school got me my first job as a factory maintenance electrician, I got a AAS degree in industrial electronics. After a few years nobody really cared about my degree it was my experience was important.
I have to thank you. My last duty station was in Texas when I was in the military and I loved Texas. I had to move to Pennsylvania, but I can’t wait to love back. I have been looking for a trade school in Texas for a long time and I haven’t been able to find one. Thanks for this video, now I know I will be moving to north Texas. That trade school is very similar to the one I went here in Pennsylvania, Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology, I studied residential remodeling and Stone Mason. One of the reasons holding me back here the trade school since I want to become a plumber also, but that video showed me where I am going to go now.
I'm currently taking Marine Service Technologies at Fort Myers Technical College. You're video helped me decide on going into trade school instead of college.
FYI.. If you can't find a "trade" school, look for a local community college. Many of them are geared for trades and many times the credits transfers over to the nearest university.
I remember mentioning to you on a Monday live stream in 2021 that I was starting this and you thought it was a great idea. Well, I ended up getting my certificate level 1 in plumbing from this program and it was one of the best decision I ever made. Yes, I did take a year off and did some thing else and it didn’t go as planned, but I decided it was best that I got back into the trades. recently I got a job offer from the North Texas municipal water district as an entry-level mechanic assistant! For those of you that live in Collin county or DFW, do this program if you want to become a plumber because it is totally worth it!
I recently graduated from Trade School. It was a great experience I learned a lot and think it was a good choice. I really like plumbing but I also enjoyed the welding segment where we learned some Pipefitting and pipe fabrication. Welding with Oxyacetylene was really cool. I may decide to pursue a career as both a plumber and a combo pipefitter !
Roger Im the majors appliance refrigeration technician instructor we appreciate the time and effort put into this video. Lots of good information Thank you
I would say it is. I can remember applying to 60 companies with no experience (and showing up to some in person) asking for a part chaser position or helper and none them gave me a job. After taking a trade course in hvac I not only got interviews but a job. I’m sure at one point in time you could get into the trades with zero experience but those days are over in my area. I think my state has strict licensing rules for the trades and the competition for jobs is also high. I live in the Massachusetts area.
Graduating in June from the New York City Carpenters Tech Training Center here in Manhattan and I can honestly say it's been the most rewarding and worthwhile experience. I've learned so very much from highly trained instructors over the last few years that I can not only make money with but also save money by not having to hire someone to do things because I now have that knowledge. If anyone is looking into any trade (even electrician 🤢) I would recommend time and time again. Plumbers, HVAC, Carpenter, Iron Workers, etc. We here in Manhattan just did an open house and competition (of which I competed in!) at our training center and had over 300 high schoolers from all over come and check it out! The skills you learn no matter where you go will always be a valuable asset. (Teasing about the electricians, you lot are awesome when you can clean up after yourselves 😉)
My brother is an electrician, he does wire pulling. 😂 Me, I’m a plumber, I do plumbing and,,, Carpentry Welding Pipe fitting Tile work Roofing Flooring Painting Sheet rock
I'm a master in Texas and i work in the union now but I came up Open shop and joined the Union after I was already a journeyman. In my opinion I've seen about the same level of plumber in both open shops and Union shops. Service techs are a lot of the time the best plumbers because they have to figure everything out for themselves. If you really want to get good at plumbing get into service. A good service tech will experience so much more than a contrction hand. Youll learn just as much in an open shop if you give a damn and learn from everyone you work with. The most money I ever made was in an open shop. I make damn good money now but when I was a residential plumber getting commission based pay I made unreal money.
@Brass House I have experience in residential,commercial and I have done some Service as well.. not so much service but I have done some..I'm blessed because the plumber im helping currently and learning from also used to teach in a classroom setting..teaching union and he went to school for it 😁 but I've had many teachers I've learned alot from some teachers were like generational plumbers
The trade schools are only as good as they can be as long as businesses believe that they provide the best possible training and accept the new workers!!!
@EthanWasMe wrong. It comes down to companies who are willing to understand that they can't continue to bar newcomers with ridiculous job requirements for a low paying job. They need to start giving benefits, substantial yearly raises, a great work environment, and stop treating workers as garbage. Always complaining about "worker shortage." Bullshit. There are people willing to work, and they need to pay people more. Ain't nobody going to spend thousands of dollars on tools for a piss poor wage. And not to mention the physical turmoil the body goes through. Being practically crippled in a few years and getting paid jack shit? Yeah, it's no wonder no one wants to work.
Lol I just got my universal EPA and took a few Mechatronics classes at a local college. Most places will train you (their way) which is kind of the problem with going to trade schools. That’s a a lot of money in student loans to pay only to be told on day one of the job - “we don’t do it that way here” Can’t tell you how many times this happens with younger guys fresh out of school.
I’m 17 going on 18 in 2024 and my grades are horrible. I need to get a job and I hope I have time to catch up in life and I kind of wanna do trading school whenever I graduate but I hope I’m smart enough to make it.
Just go into the union. It's a free apprenticeship with a stipulation that you stick with the union for 5 years after you get your journeyman(5 year apprenticeship) to pay them back for the free apprenticeship tuition. Plus you get paid about 10-15% more than open shop(non union).
I would say yes for guys coming out of high school and they go work for say a service company or company’s that do what I call piece work and have crews that only do certain aspects of plumbing. Like just fixture crew or rough in crew etc. I was lucky and started at a commercial new construction company that would have crews start and finish jobs so we knew how the entire job was ran from ground up. Nothing against trade school but I opted out when our company started sending kids there after I was already on my 4th year.
It would be awesome to have one of these in western Washington. Lots of carpentry programs, but i haven't found something like this - open to even homeowners - to learn plumbing.
I would have chosen to go for electricians or welder but after hearing how dangerous both the jobs are and how much of a toll they take on your body and cause you to have to retire early plus I know people who have died doing those jobs and some got seriously injured and finding out that the pay wasn't as good as plumbing that's what I finally decided I'm aiming to be a plumber
I've been contacting technical schools for welding in Texas and the few I talked to were priced at $22,800 and up. The few community colleges that I contacted didn't answer the phone. yup. Maybe I'll contact the school you're showing.
Hey roger amazing video. What is your opinion on the trade carpet installation and removal I feel like this trade most trade guys don’t really talk about this trade a lot. I’m interested in that trade but idk how to get into it in my local area, they don’t have a trade school for carpets and I don’t know if they have a local union for it. You know I’m thinking about looking for an open shop for carpet installation, and removal . but I have no experience.
It is beneficial. When economies crash, the ones who rebuild everything and get everything going again are the ones who can make shit and the ones who can service and maintain shit, those who work with intangibles are kinda fucked a bit longer.
I can tell you by experience and from the teachers I know personally, that the SCHOOL itself counts! Here in W GA, there is a technical college that recently built a new, state-of-the-art facility. The only issue is, not one of the teachers in the HVAC dept has field experience. Now, with that being said, my company has hired some of its worst employees from said tech school. They only care about getting grant $$ and don't even care about attendance anymore. The class, when I took it, 13 years ago was garbage then and it has only gotten worse. I hate to say it, but if you have gone to this tech school, graduates need not apply here, lol. Graduates do not know how to properly connect a manifold, let alone pull a vacuum, recover refrigerant, use a meter, the list goes on! So, properly vet the school you want to attend to ensure you get a proper education and don't look like a dummy when you start a new job in your chosen vocation.
I’m starting tech school next year for plumbing and I’m really excited but also nervous I’ve always had such an interest in plumbing but I don’t know much about it just be six stuff, do you think that will affect me?
Roger, why are you ignoring my emails? You emailed me back once… so I know you’ve been getting them. It’s been 3 weeks since I have asked for my money back from the Plumbing 101 course. Is this how you conduct business? Come on man.
Thanks for the great video 😊
Keep it up
Maybe pin this comment 😆
Maybe I will🤔
@@RogerWakefield I’ve always enjoyed your content
I’ve always wanted to get into plumbing to be honest
So I’m gonna see if I can also go through a trade school
I’m an electrician who went to trade school. Got 900 hours of classroom training. Best decision I ever made as it gave me so much knowledge of electricity from an atomic level all the way up to what actually goes on in the field. They even helped with job placement and landed me a job at a local shop. Understanding not only how to do the work but WHY has made me a great young up and coming electrician. To me, whatever you put into something is what you get out of it. If you take trade school seriously then it will take you seriously. If not, well then it’s a waste. You need to admit you don’t know something in order to learn and that means setting aside pride which is something that’s hard for people in the trades to do.
Are you in an apprenticeship?
What trade school did you went to ?
Yea everyone that’s told me to go to trade school instead of the union all say the same thing. They learned way more in a shorter time and get paid just as much as a 5 year apprentice in just 2ish years after school
This is super helpful!
Hey Roger. On Monday I start my plumbing apprenticeship , I am very excited. Been doing some light plumbing during kitchen and bathroom remodels. And decided to go full into plumbing. Been a carpenter for 4 years now ima be a plumber 😊
i wish you great success
Do you make good money in carpentry? Why did you decide to move to plumbing?
@@babyface6106 I make 28$/hr as a 4yrs experienced carpenter (I live in Connecticut). Decided to go to plumbing cause I really enjoyed the plumbing part of the remodels I’ve done. Dont get me wrong, I love carpentry too. But the pay is better in plumbing.
@@GS.9093_Mart I’m kind of surprised how low that is for carpentry. Plumbing journeyman definitely make more than that! Good luck to you sir!
@@johnsushi2007 yeah It is kinda low I think. My first official day as a plumber was great. We were working on a master bath remodel doing the rough-in. Toilet and vanity were relocated and got to do the soldering for the water lines. (im not new to solder, I’ve done it before as a carpenter while remodeling). It was really fun. Hopefully we’ll pass inspection on Wednesday.
I went to ATI here in Vegas for HVAC. It was an amazing help to my career. I had a new job within 3 months of graduating, and got a $9/hr raise to boot!! Trade School is definitely a good thing.
Is it worth the money
i am glad my mother gave me great advice i became a mechanic and owned my own business for 47 years i made a great living
Trade school got me my first job as a factory maintenance electrician, I got a AAS degree in industrial electronics. After a few years nobody really cared about my degree it was my experience was important.
I have to thank you. My last duty station was in Texas when I was in the military and I loved Texas. I had to move to Pennsylvania, but I can’t wait to love back. I have been looking for a trade school in Texas for a long time and I haven’t been able to find one. Thanks for this video, now I know I will be moving to north Texas. That trade school is very similar to the one I went here in Pennsylvania, Thaddeus Stevens College of Technology, I studied residential remodeling and Stone Mason. One of the reasons holding me back here the trade school since I want to become a plumber also, but that video showed me where I am going to go now.
I'm currently taking Marine Service Technologies at Fort Myers Technical College. You're video helped me decide on going into trade school instead of college.
I'm the Plumbing Instructor at Ft. Myers Technical College in Florida and I appreciate your great videos. This is another great one!
FYI.. If you can't find a "trade" school, look for a local community college. Many of them are geared for trades and many times the credits transfers over to the nearest university.
I remember mentioning to you on a Monday live stream in 2021 that I was starting this and you thought it was a great idea. Well, I ended up getting my certificate level 1 in plumbing from this program and it was one of the best decision I ever made. Yes, I did take a year off and did some thing else and it didn’t go as planned, but I decided it was best that I got back into the trades. recently I got a job offer from the North Texas municipal water district as an entry-level mechanic assistant! For those of you that live in Collin county or DFW, do this program if you want to become a plumber because it is totally worth it!
I want to be come as a plumber , can you help me where should I apply?
I recently graduated from Trade School. It was a great experience I learned a lot and think it was a good choice. I really like plumbing but I also enjoyed the welding segment where we learned some Pipefitting and pipe fabrication. Welding with Oxyacetylene was really cool. I may decide to pursue a career as both a plumber and a combo pipefitter !
That’s not a bad path to go down! Good luck on your adventure 🤙🏼👨🏭
@@RogerWakefield Thank You !
Roger Im the majors appliance refrigeration technician instructor we appreciate the time and effort put into this video. Lots of good information Thank you
Electricians are plumbers that just fill pipes with wires instead of water. 😊
I would say it is. I can remember applying to 60 companies with no experience (and showing up to some in person) asking for a part chaser position or helper and none them gave me a job. After taking a trade course in hvac I not only got interviews but a job. I’m sure at one point in time you could get into the trades with zero experience but those days are over in my area. I think my state has strict licensing rules for the trades and the competition for jobs is also high. I live in the Massachusetts area.
Agreed. No company offers a spot to someone new. Most want 1 - 2 years or trade school.
Graduating in June from the New York City Carpenters Tech Training Center here in Manhattan and I can honestly say it's been the most rewarding and worthwhile experience. I've learned so very much from highly trained instructors over the last few years that I can not only make money with but also save money by not having to hire someone to do things because I now have that knowledge.
If anyone is looking into any trade (even electrician 🤢) I would recommend time and time again. Plumbers, HVAC, Carpenter, Iron Workers, etc.
We here in Manhattan just did an open house and competition (of which I competed in!) at our training center and had over 300 high schoolers from all over come and check it out!
The skills you learn no matter where you go will always be a valuable asset.
(Teasing about the electricians, you lot are awesome when you can clean up after yourselves 😉)
My brother is an electrician, he does wire pulling. 😂
Me, I’m a plumber, I do plumbing and,,,
Carpentry
Welding
Pipe fitting
Tile work
Roofing
Flooring
Painting
Sheet rock
The Jack of all trades is Master of None
@@ImYourHucklebery117 I’ve been a master plumber for 38 years ! What form of human existence do you preform every day ?
Good to see some people had a good trade school experience instead of being a 4 year waste of time
I have no experience, I’m 24. For some reason becoming an electrician is always on my mind. I just am not sure what to do.
I currently learning open shop...this is my 2nd year...saying you learned open shop gives me confidence I can make it all the way 😁
Also I started in a plumbing wear house so I learned all the material 1st 😁
I'm a master in Texas and i work in the union now but I came up Open shop and joined the Union after I was already a journeyman. In my opinion I've seen about the same level of plumber in both open shops and Union shops. Service techs are a lot of the time the best plumbers because they have to figure everything out for themselves. If you really want to get good at plumbing get into service. A good service tech will experience so much more than a contrction hand. Youll learn just as much in an open shop if you give a damn and learn from everyone you work with. The most money I ever made was in an open shop. I make damn good money now but when I was a residential plumber getting commission based pay I made unreal money.
@Brass House I have experience in residential,commercial and I have done some Service as well.. not so much service but I have done some..I'm blessed because the plumber im helping currently and learning from also used to teach in a classroom setting..teaching union and he went to school for it 😁 but I've had many teachers I've learned alot from some teachers were like generational plumbers
The trade schools are only as good as they can be as long as businesses believe that they provide the best possible training and accept the new workers!!!
all comes down to the tutors imo
@EthanWasMe wrong. It comes down to companies who are willing to understand that they can't continue to bar newcomers with ridiculous job requirements for a low paying job. They need to start giving benefits, substantial yearly raises, a great work environment, and stop treating workers as garbage.
Always complaining about "worker shortage." Bullshit. There are people willing to work, and they need to pay people more. Ain't nobody going to spend thousands of dollars on tools for a piss poor wage. And not to mention the physical turmoil the body goes through. Being practically crippled in a few years and getting paid jack shit? Yeah, it's no wonder no one wants to work.
Going to technical state college and getting the associate degree will those two years and 2,000 a hours count towards your apprenticeship?
Im shocked by these low prices! Here in Reading PA equivalent courses will run 10k at least according to their websites
Lol I just got my universal EPA and took a few Mechatronics classes at a local college. Most places will train you (their way) which is kind of the problem with going to trade schools. That’s a a lot of money in student loans to pay only to be told on day one of the job - “we don’t do it that way here” Can’t tell you how many times this happens with younger guys fresh out of school.
I’m 17 going on 18 in 2024 and my grades are horrible. I need to get a job and I hope I have time to catch up in life and I kind of wanna do trading school whenever I graduate but I hope I’m smart enough to make it.
Just go into the union. It's a free apprenticeship with a stipulation that you stick with the union for 5 years after you get your journeyman(5 year apprenticeship) to pay them back for the free apprenticeship tuition. Plus you get paid about 10-15% more than open shop(non union).
I would say yes for guys coming out of high school and they go work for say a service company or company’s that do what I call piece work and have crews that only do certain aspects of plumbing. Like just fixture crew or rough in crew etc. I was lucky and started at a commercial new construction company that would have crews start and finish jobs so we knew how the entire job was ran from ground up. Nothing against trade school but I opted out when our company started sending kids there after I was already on my 4th year.
Oh boy. Debbie from A-aces is goin to have an anurism seeing this. Love it.
Great Video pal!
Thank you! What was your favorite part
It would be awesome to have one of these in western Washington. Lots of carpentry programs, but i haven't found something like this - open to even homeowners - to learn plumbing.
I would have chosen to go for electricians or welder but after hearing how dangerous both the jobs are and how much of a toll they take on your body and cause you to have to retire early plus I know people who have died doing those jobs and some got seriously injured and finding out that the pay wasn't as good as plumbing that's what I finally decided I'm aiming to be a plumber
I've been contacting technical schools for welding in Texas and the few I talked to were priced at $22,800 and up. The few community colleges that I contacted didn't answer the phone. yup. Maybe I'll contact the school you're showing.
Hey roger amazing video. What is your opinion on the trade carpet installation and removal I feel like this trade most trade guys don’t really talk about this trade a lot. I’m interested in that trade but idk how to get into it in my local area, they don’t have a trade school for carpets and I don’t know if they have a local union for it. You know I’m thinking about looking for an open shop for carpet installation, and removal . but I have no experience.
I’m looking to apply Apex technical or Berk Trade school here in nyc… I’m really hoping they can help with job placement once done.
I gone to trade school in high school it was super helpful i wish that place was closer
Meh student debt is the reason why I’m working in the trades. It would be awesome working with a company willing to help but that’s kinda rare
Great stuff Roger!
Thank you!
It is beneficial. When economies crash, the ones who rebuild everything and get everything going again are the ones who can make shit and the ones who can service and maintain shit, those who work with intangibles are kinda fucked a bit longer.
whoops the outro music was a little bit loud for a second 🤣 On a serious note, Great Video!
Sorry about that, thanks for watching
Theres NO trade school in New Jersey? I want to get started in one but can't find one. Roger can you Help me?
Have you checked New York or nearby states?
What school do you recommend for plumbing in NJ
Unfortunately I don’t know of any schools up in that area.
Should i go to plumbing school or just get a plumbing job and learn that way?
Hey, I think I might know that shaggy guy walking around in the blue polo with y'all at Collin College...😂😂😂
oh yeah? What's his name then? 😅
@Roger Wakefield well dang, dude, you just hung out with him awhile ago. 😆 🤣
I can tell you by experience and from the teachers I know personally, that the SCHOOL itself counts! Here in W GA, there is a technical college that recently built a new, state-of-the-art facility. The only issue is, not one of the teachers in the HVAC dept has field experience. Now, with that being said, my company has hired some of its worst employees from said tech school. They only care about getting grant $$ and don't even care about attendance anymore. The class, when I took it, 13 years ago was garbage then and it has only gotten worse. I hate to say it, but if you have gone to this tech school, graduates need not apply here, lol. Graduates do not know how to properly connect a manifold, let alone pull a vacuum, recover refrigerant, use a meter, the list goes on! So, properly vet the school you want to attend to ensure you get a proper education and don't look like a dummy when you start a new job in your chosen vocation.
I’m starting tech school next year for plumbing and I’m really excited but also nervous I’ve always had such an interest in plumbing but I don’t know much about it just be six stuff, do you think that will affect me?
trade school sounds perfect for you
This is great information
Glad you like it Mr. Real O’Neil!
I'd rather work smart than work hard; thanks though
Hey roger. I have a question for ya man. Just went for an interview for an apprenticeship. Do you have an email I can reach ya at?
Yes, check the description 📧
@@RogerWakefield 🖤
I wish I was a teenager again
Life changing
Where they actually show you how to do things and not make you do useless maths for a bunch of semesters for just filler
Sir can we get a job in US. From Pakistan
Roger, why are you ignoring my emails? You emailed me back once… so I know you’ve been getting them. It’s been 3 weeks since I have asked for my money back from the Plumbing 101 course. Is this how you conduct business? Come on man.
In my country you have to attend trade school.
I love that! What country are you from?
@@RogerWakefield Australia. In my first year of a four year pluming apprenticeship.