The TRUTH About Commercial Plumbing

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @jonhart8185
    @jonhart8185 Год назад +68

    My favorite thing about big commercial jobs is running no-hub cast iron pipe. Once you get a workflow going, using lasers and chalklines you can easily hang hundreds of feet of pipe per day. Also usually if you are on a big commercial job, you are near good restaurants for lunch.
    One thing you didn't mention is working hours. On a commercial job, you know when you are going home everyday, in service, it's always a crapshoot.

  • @KrabLewis
    @KrabLewis 2 года назад +156

    Brushing up on math and applying for an apprenticeship asap. I’m 33 and want an actual career. Commercial or residential I’ll take what I can get.

    • @JustJanitor
      @JustJanitor 2 года назад +16

      I'm about to start a plumbing course at a technical college near me. I hope to either join an apprentice program or maybe just complete the course an they will help me find a job. Good luck.

    • @shadeiland
      @shadeiland 2 года назад +59

      The hardest part for most apprentices is that you just feel like you are just running for parts and tools. But if you pay attention you will see what is being done and learn to anticipate what is going to needed. Always ask questions and if you are with someone who doesn’t want you to be better find someone else. Apprentices that want to learn and work hard aren’t easy to come by. If you show you have drive every good plumber will want you with them.
      “Doubt kills more dreams than failure ever has”

    • @thetruebatman8522
      @thetruebatman8522 2 года назад +16

      To each their own, but commercial plumbing can be a ton of fun. If you stick with it, tons of opportunity to grow and make a decent living.

    • @Lawless-Texas
      @Lawless-Texas 2 года назад +4

      I worked in telecommunications for 14 years (same company). Finally quit last year and became a biomed for a Dialysis company. A lot of times if you can understand basic electrical and plumbing it's a good option.
      Plus it's medical so the likelihood of a layoff is very low.

    • @isaiahkaulaity9467
      @isaiahkaulaity9467 Год назад +14

      I'm 26 and started my apprenticeship about 3½ months ago doing residential/commercial service. I wish I started a long time ago. Best career decision I've ever made.

  • @Fireflyer1002
    @Fireflyer1002 2 года назад +24

    I’ve done commercial and residential new construction and service. Currently doing commercial service and i absolutely love it. I get the freedom of going to different job sites every day, eating lunch when and where i want just like resi. We work in nice buildings so it’s typically clean. And i still get to use my brain since it’s service. Also the thing i didn’t like in resi was customers. Homeowners can be such a pain. Typically the building maintenance understands it’ll take time and money to fix something.

    • @RubenHernandez-yx1bk
      @RubenHernandez-yx1bk Год назад

      Ain't that the truth!! A lot homeowners need a better understanding on how difficult and expensive plumbing repairs can be!!

  • @levonbreazell5032
    @levonbreazell5032 2 года назад +32

    Great timing Roger. I recently got invited to a commercial plumbing company to become a apprentice for them. I’m greatful for the opportunity because i’ve been searching for a company to take me in as a apprentice for the longest . I really want to do residential service plumbing because like you said i do not like to be stuck with the same job over and over . With this opportunity presented to me I am going to try my hardest and do the best I can to understand and become a sponge to the whole plumbing industry so in two years i can branch off and find a company to do residential service . Your videos really help and are inspiring as i am 22 and plan to have a bright future with your videos as a guide.

    • @d1vin1ty
      @d1vin1ty 2 года назад +6

      I've been taught by every journeyman I've met to have a company which does both. In residential you have an opportunity to learn a wider array of skills much more quickly, and commercial you have an opportunity to really hammer down and master your skills. In commercial obviously you're a grunt for much longer because there's more grunt-work to do but when you get to begin piping and waterlining and such over there you'll get FAR more experience FAR quicker than in residential. It's just the nature of having so many units vs far fewer houses and less time figuring things out.
      So residential for wider skill learning and critical learning
      Commercial for skill BUILDING
      If our society's housing problem continues like it is into the future too, commercial is EXTREMELY useful to know because developments, high rises, condos, could all become more common than residential down the road. Nobody truly knows since it's an economic thing but that means it's great to really know both. You'll be a far, far better plumber for it.

    • @levonbreazell5032
      @levonbreazell5032 2 года назад

      @@d1vin1ty thanks bro seems like i’ll stick it out for my 4 yr apprenticeship as commercial and then really pick what i want to do

    • @timsparks2862
      @timsparks2862 2 года назад

      You will never go back to service

    • @davidlankford6432
      @davidlankford6432 2 года назад

      @@levonbreazell5032 dude if you got invited to a job then that's a damn good company. Stick with them

    • @alamedajon1453
      @alamedajon1453 Месяц назад

      Always think that there is a better way never argue with you foreman, You can only do it your way when you are the foreman. But always do it it right. do it to code.

  • @bradreid6596
    @bradreid6596 2 года назад +31

    I'm an industrial pipe fitter currently working on a commercial job. Every commerical job I've been on is leaps and bounds more dangerous than any chemical plant. Did maintenance work for a while at an apartment complex. The big issue I was had with residential is being in another person's space. Some where clean some where nasty but they all felt wrong.

    • @JonFox1945
      @JonFox1945 7 месяцев назад

      What are you getting it? Which one did you like better overall, summary?

  • @martinmarcano3214
    @martinmarcano3214 9 месяцев назад +2

    I ended up switching from commercial to residential service, and it was quite a big change. I would say commercial is more physically demanding, when it's cold it's cold, when it's hot it's hot, and when it rains you get wet. But residential service requires precision and accuracy. Because when you get a leak in a commercial job, you have to turn off the water, cut it out, and reglue, solder, etc... and turn the water back on. But in residential if you make a mistake, you can fold or cause water damage to the customer's house.

  • @edgarkoen1230
    @edgarkoen1230 2 года назад +46

    I am a Commercial J. Plumber. It can be very challenging and frustrating. I love being around other trades and watching the building being built. You can learn so much more than just plumbing. There is also problem solving in commercial aswell. For example someone else has done the work before you and didnt do it right. Now you have to fix it/make it work. It can be infuriating.

    • @logansmith4218
      @logansmith4218 Год назад +3

      I’m late but just got a year of experience and I agree 100% never know what your walking into at a new job

  • @ETannerity
    @ETannerity 3 месяца назад +4

    Electrician here. Commercial is 1000 better because of the money you can make and the more variety of work you get to do in the trade. The only thing that drives commercial down is driving but the money is worth it. You won’t get 55 to 70 an hour outside union at someone’s house unless the company is using you for a masters license.

  • @mikeking6783
    @mikeking6783 2 года назад +9

    Commercial is cleaner , great friends and relationships also the general is never going ask " are those new parts or say "wow you were only here for an hour and it costs how much?" No on call for commercial, and in Canada where I live even small commercial is far more lucrative. The only benefit I can see to service/residential is a little free time, even if your the greatest plumber in those two subjects.. nobody cares, commercial if your really good you will be head hunted. I have done all three branches, my opinion as follows.
    1 Service is good money for the employer but there is always that last call after 6 for the employee.
    2. Residential is go, go ,go and dig, dig,dig.
    3. commercial is dig (rent a machine), go, are we on schedule? And generally pays more then the other 2.
    And as I stated that is my option so it must be right!
    Mike owner of a small plumbing company.
    P.S. But if you can do all three then you are golden!

    • @jpmonin7429
      @jpmonin7429 2 года назад

      Commercial pays a whole lot better.

  • @codyblankenship9730
    @codyblankenship9730 2 года назад +9

    everything you said is 100% accurate and the entire reason I've been doing residential plumbing for the last nine months. After four years in commercial, I had it dealing with all the red tape. I do not intend to return to commercial until I have started and have built up a reputation as good plumbing company, where I will have more control over my own company and have a dog in the fight to change the politics of commercial plumbing. the thing I miss to most is working together with other trades, teaching and learning different skills on the job. I have never needed and hand with some plumbing work when I was a lone plumber on a job site and not get that help from the first person I ask. like wise I can't think of a time that I have been asked for help and didn't give it. love all you guys and gals in the trades, keep laying it all out in the field, really, you guys are great.

  • @rryuan
    @rryuan 2 года назад +14

    I was doing mostly residential remodel and some apartments for like 5 years. I'm in the union now, best thing so far, no crawl spaces. I'm in Washington state and we have almost all crawl spaces in houses out here.

    • @TristonSmith_ThePlumbingSmith
      @TristonSmith_ThePlumbingSmith Год назад +1

      What union ands commercial or residential ?and what do they pay journeyman? Im I’m wa testing for my PL02 but only ever did service work

  • @shlebmo
    @shlebmo 2 года назад +10

    I’d say they’re equal. Crawl spaces suck but so do overhead tight spaces over ducts and chases. The work is satisfying on both. People can be both amazing and frustrating doing residential service. You wind up going behind jack legged people in both. At the end of the day I like plumbing in general because of the challenge that it presents and it rarely is boring. I’ve gotten good enough at it that I don’t take my job home with me anymore. No matter the size of the job it isn’t too hard to stay on schedule with proper management and foresight of problems. I believe that’s what really separates a good plumber from a great one

    • @angeldesigns1385
      @angeldesigns1385 2 года назад +3

      This was probably the most important comment in the comment section.🚀✨🚀

  • @shaunwakefield3542
    @shaunwakefield3542 2 года назад +7

    I’m currently doing my apprenticeship in New Zealand and we do mainly commercial work and I’m loving it

    • @shaunwakefield3542
      @shaunwakefield3542 2 года назад +1

      Our company also has a mini bus to pick the guys up and drop them off at the work sites

  • @karlbaum1235
    @karlbaum1235 2 года назад +8

    This is a really good perspective on what to expect in commercial work for someone who's never done it. For me personally, I can say the most fun commercial jobs for me have been the medium /small sized ones because I get the perfect balance of everything. Predictable, easy parking. It's very easy to get to know everyone on the job. Relaxed lunches. Sparse safety meetings. It was easy to feel like a mechanic because every day I was doing something new /solving new problems rather than getting stuck on a single task for months. A perfect environment to build confidence as an apprentice. I haven't had any experience with meetings, but site walks with paper blueprints in hand (or even simply just chicken scratch drawing on cardboard with sharpie) is ESSENTIAL for me. We call it air drawing when someone starts waving their finger around (usually in the opposite direction of what they actually mean), which doesn't work all that well because it tends to make people talk way too fast and miss all the obstacles.

  • @Jt.at.Sea.adventures
    @Jt.at.Sea.adventures 2 года назад +5

    I enjoy residential as i get a feeling of relief every time my team gets a job done as an apprentice doing 4 or 5 jobs a day quick and easy.

  • @elmirmisir-zada8470
    @elmirmisir-zada8470 2 года назад +5

    Mr Wakefield,
    I'm a 3rd year apprentice and I started in residential service, worked in a commercial job in Manhattan and now back to residential in a different state and IMO, residential is much better because I felt like I had start all over again when I got back to residential from commercial because we used to do doing the same few things over and over again as you said. The only thing I don't like about residential is getting stuck and finishing late, other than that, residential all day

  • @trentdawg2832
    @trentdawg2832 Год назад +2

    Ive done all residentual and commercail, service and new const…….i like the commercail service by far…it usually takes longer to do my paper work and get the approvals than to actually do the job..and half the time the 23yr old manager at the retail store dont know anything and just stay out of the way…..ive made thousands with other peoples plungers…..no joke!!

  • @plumbdumb2427
    @plumbdumb2427 Год назад +3

    I've done residential and commercial service for years. A Lot of overnight fixes and on call weeks odd hours It was getting harder when my kid didn't see me for days. I jumped back into high-rise work home every day at the same time nice set schedule I love it now.

  • @Cachin2728
    @Cachin2728 Год назад +2

    Just starting in the trade. Mostly commercial side,sometines residential, like more commercial , meet great people in different trade, and mostly work with new pipe and fittings, instead of used. Lots to learn.

  • @enriquereza2363
    @enriquereza2363 2 года назад +2

    Started commercial and industrial a month ago. Came from residential. Love’m Both!!

  • @joshmmanton
    @joshmmanton 2 года назад +8

    Roger broke that down perfectly IMO. In all honesty, it boils down to personality types, but really I'd say it's more about New Construction vs Service. I'll take new construction if the pay is good enough that steady (set) hours will pay the bills. I know I'll have to be there around 6am and I'll be home around 3pm for a commercial site. Add an hour for residential. You will have to bust your ass out there, though. No days off, and don't even think about taking a vacation. Once the project gets past a certain phase about 1/2 of the crew is either getting laid off or moved around. The rest will get moved / laid off at the next phase lol.
    Service is where you make your money, but you have to make yourself available, though. You can take time off, but when you're working, you're working. Ironically, service seems to do less manual labor, but goddammit if they don't have the dirtiest jobs.
    Can't call yourself a plumber if you don't do service though ... Just saying.

    • @andrewmccallum9943
      @andrewmccallum9943 Год назад +1

      I agree mostly, but you don’t have to do service to be a plumber . I’ve done some service work, custom homes, apartments, hospitals, restaurants. I’ve worked with some really good service guys over the years. One in particular came out to help me on a groundwork- he couldn’t read a blue print. Dude was an unreal service guy….
      But can’t call yourself a plumber if
      you can’t read a blue print. 😂

  • @Bergarita
    @Bergarita 2 года назад +4

    I'm not really needing a lot of plumbing advice right now but I find your videos informative and interesting. I joke about being "RUclips Certified" when it comes to car repairs, electrical repairs, financial advice etc.

  • @virbricky
    @virbricky 2 года назад +4

    The thing I like about commercial is the amount of different types of places and "hidden" things you get to see. Most people don't ever see behind the scenes of commercial buildings and especially working on older ones with rehabs etc... you get to see some cool stuff!

  • @Beloh99
    @Beloh99 2 года назад +2

    For me I just started commercial 2 months ago and it's so fun it's like building a puzzle. I get off at the same time with no on-call

  • @chameleontwist2551
    @chameleontwist2551 2 года назад +17

    The truth is...you may likely come across grease traps, and they are terrible.

  • @michaelandres1363
    @michaelandres1363 2 года назад +6

    I’m a one man shop service plumber and I absolutely love it. I am envious of the team atmosphere of being on a commercial job site, but the amount of freedom I have is unmatched. If I wanna run down and meet my wife and daughter at the park for lunch? Only person I need permission from is the customer that I’m going to be 30 minutes late.

    • @MrSGH21
      @MrSGH21 2 года назад

      My job is just two of us. Meeting people and having friends/team was the only good thing for me about working in commercial. I love residential. I only did commercial for about two months and hated it

    • @natethegr8t111
      @natethegr8t111 2 года назад

      I wish I could do thos

  • @WoPeterson73
    @WoPeterson73 Год назад +1

    On my second week of commercial plumbing as an apprentice. It's awesome so far the company helped get me all the paperwork submitted in Texas to get my apprentice license and the guys I work with are great with lots of knowledge and patience. Glad I made the switch to the trades!

  • @devilinthebelfry7292
    @devilinthebelfry7292 Год назад +4

    I've worked with my father who is a master plumber for several years and he likes to take on ANYTHING that tickles his fancy so I've done a wide range of work. I like how clean commercial jobs usually are compared to, too many, houses I've done service work on. But I like residential more. It definitely feels more creative to me. It's not usually printed out so you have to go to the job measure things out and form an idea of how to make this house work. There's no blueprint telling you everything you need to know.

  • @johnnichols2710
    @johnnichols2710 Год назад +2

    Everything you said is pretty much the same with carpentry trade commercial versus residential as well . PS you’re my favorite plumber on RUclips.

  • @angelraught7920
    @angelraught7920 2 года назад +7

    Also, creates a division between teams "Sparkies this" "damn plumbers that"
    I've always made friends in other teams, tho, and it helps to be bi langual to help those boundaries and explain what we need in those times.
    Residential always felt more laxxed.

  • @exceleratorjoshua
    @exceleratorjoshua 2 года назад +2

    I agree with you Roger for the most part. I did enjoy just showing up to commercial buildings, find the problem fix it and bail out to the next. With residential you have to get approval which in my case I lose 30 minutes to an hour on material and approval. Service is very similar to apartment maintenance which is what I'm doing at the moment. I hate when supervisors question us Plumbers on what the best course of action is, when the supervisors simply want the cheapest thing done to keep the building limping along. If I ever go to Texas I'd love to work for you Roger

  • @keldon_champion
    @keldon_champion 2 года назад +3

    Believe me I felt the parking thing, the other day I was working on a refrigerator for a customer in a educational hospital the only parking was 3 blocks away down an alley and the job was on the 3rd floor, I had to, in the pouring rain, carry in from my van my ladder, my tools, and the parts, 3 trips in, 3 trips back out. I felt that on a personal level, lol.

    • @bulldogydog13
      @bulldogydog13 4 месяца назад

      rule number 2 always be prepared

  • @angelraught7920
    @angelraught7920 2 года назад +3

    Worst about parking is the pay to park but it's only 30 min increments and you can only do it like 3 times. Or thr hour ones, and your on like the 26th floor so you gotta set a timer for 45 min.

  • @igotyoursixplumbing5336
    @igotyoursixplumbing5336 2 года назад +1

    Hey Rodger thanks for the video, I run a Plumbing Company out of Idaho.. I was laughing as I was watching your video, I did years of commercial plumbing, meetings and weekly safety meetings were a waste of time, especially after I just walked a mile from the parking lot at 5am in the morning. My company does service and new construction, so I can appreciate all aspects of plumbing.

  • @cbrew8775
    @cbrew8775 Год назад

    i'm a plumbing contractor of 30 yrs.. was thinking of creating a channel.. nice job getting your content across

  • @simonprior2646
    @simonprior2646 10 месяцев назад

    I’m just finished my trade after starting in 2017 and having to defer due to Covid
    Learnt both commercial and residential I see benefits in learning both and not pigeon holing yourself into one or the other by the time you finish your time you’d want to have as much experience and knowledge as possible we never stop learning

  • @ugetridofit
    @ugetridofit 2 года назад +4

    I like commercial better. I would far rather install new equipment than dig up and troubleshoot and repair someone's poor installation. I also like the long jobs because its more job security.

  • @aaronalmanza6241
    @aaronalmanza6241 Год назад +1

    Residential plumbing is always(well most of the time)repiping jobs,sewer water gas,commercial jobs are easier to do because you have more space and there is a building process(you can see and fix a problem faster

  • @danielfarthing7234
    @danielfarthing7234 10 месяцев назад

    I work everything service, new construction, flips, commercial, and residential you name it. Depends on the job, part of why I love the company I am with is, there is constant change of pace and change of environment so it never gets boring. I will say, parking is a huge problem with commercial jobs I’ve worked on even the smaller ones. It can be very frustrating.

  • @Jmm388
    @Jmm388 Год назад +1

    I'm a carpenter, I've done residential for 10 years and now am doing commercial for the past 2 years and the scale of it all can be overwhelming at times but I do like it, it's fast pace and it's crazy how much goes into huge apartment buildings

  • @bobbyosborne2375
    @bobbyosborne2375 Год назад

    Residential new construction. Interspersed with local commercial and residential service. I've done it all. Military work, heavy commercial in hospitals, skyscrapers, industrial...by far residential new construction. No stress. Simple prints, easy to work a job with the sparkies and hvac guys. Bossman gives me total control to work the jobs, no problems getting tools and materials i need. I take a hit to my pay, but it's worth it. Shops 5 minutes away and my work truck is in the driveway. Been at it 23 years in January.

  • @javierprado6545
    @javierprado6545 2 года назад +2

    I do commercial and I love it we get some jobs that are scale or pw so that’s a big plus I never done residential but I feel like that it’s just something quick And as far as service I wouldn’t like it at all great video thanks for posting

  • @ericjohns7600
    @ericjohns7600 2 года назад +5

    I've been a commercial plumber for 6 years now. I've also done some residential work. In my opinion commercial work is better because each job is different and has its own puzzles to solve. In residential plumbing its the same thing over and over.

    • @taylorsmith9629
      @taylorsmith9629 2 года назад

      Is the money better in commercial?

    • @3bomen
      @3bomen 2 года назад +2

      @@taylorsmith9629 commercial gets paid hourly like 30 a hour. Residential is nice because you get paid commission so if you sell a lot you get just as much as commercial with less hours

    • @thetruebatman8522
      @thetruebatman8522 2 года назад

      Agreed

    • @eluckeymusic
      @eluckeymusic 2 года назад +1

      @@taylorsmith9629 $55/hr as a union journeyman. Plus the vacation & holiday pay averaging an extra $500-600 a month, amazing PPO health plan, pension, and 401k.

    • @cesarmoore7996
      @cesarmoore7996 2 года назад +1

      @@taylorsmith9629 money is always better in commercial, even better in industrial

  • @ryancoombes4360
    @ryancoombes4360 Год назад

    I enjoy commercial construction because ive always got a pretty good idea of what im walking into everyday. No on call emergency. In residential I hate driving to 3-4 different calls a day, and i hate having to keep a truck stocked with materials, construction is generally bigger, preplanned projects where materials are shipped ahead of time.
    Also being forced to bring a lunch means money saved on takeout.

  • @jeddeleon1941
    @jeddeleon1941 2 года назад +1

    Worked both. Really like the new commercial better the reason being is you are able to use your brain to develop your plumbing skills. Learning how it comes together from the ground up. Also it doesn't hurt that the money is alot better.

  • @ChrisMorton
    @ChrisMorton Год назад +2

    I like residential because each job is different.

  • @only_1_kinobi
    @only_1_kinobi Год назад

    I’ve done both maintenance domestic and commercial in Australia and currently commercial in London England and I tend to prefer comercial the comradery is one of the biggest things after a few months it’s like going to work with a good bunch of mates
    Very good video 😊

  • @Stoned_Sparky
    @Stoned_Sparky 2 года назад +2

    Honestly I found that getting on with a company that needs industrial maintenance is a lot better for me but I’m also an electrician I’ve done construction and residential and get why guys like those more but being with a non electric company that listens to my expertise without question is pretty great and the amount of pto and vacation days are way more than any electric company I’ve been with

  • @bradmironik6137
    @bradmironik6137 2 года назад +1

    Very valid points. I laughed at "roach coach". I haven't heard that term in a while but that's what everyone called it. Not a plumber but my trade I preferred commercial.

  • @erikchard6582
    @erikchard6582 8 месяцев назад

    One benefit of working in commercial construction is the possibility of being at government funded jobs that pay prevailing wage.
    The company that I work for is putting in the plumbing for an apartment complex that is government funded due to having some designated lower income units and I am making close to $40/hr even as an apprentice with less than 6 months experience.
    I realize that those opportunities are not going to happen every time, but it is a really nice potential perk

  • @JustJanitor
    @JustJanitor 2 года назад +3

    I'm hoping to become a residential service plumber

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  Год назад

      Grand Theft, luckily for you I am hosting a FREE online masterclass this Saturday explaining how to get a job in the trades if you are interested reserve a spot here www.therichtradesmanmasterclass.com/optin16735821946281675717555355

  • @CARSONGRIFFITH-i9j
    @CARSONGRIFFITH-i9j Год назад

    I am a business owner of a welding company. I am just a one-man business right now. I previously employed with a mechanical contractor as a pipe welder. I would like to focus my business more on pipe welding and get a crew hired on to my business. I don't have a ton of plumbing experience; would it be beneficial to learn this trade when wanting to expand the business in pipe fitting and welding?

  • @josephhuether1184
    @josephhuether1184 Год назад

    Reading these comments, it’s clear there are a lot of relatively happy plumbers out there.
    I’m an architect and love the vibe of a bustling multi-trade job site.
    And yeah…I know people detest when work has to be redone because I screwed up. Rarely happens anymore.

  • @joeenriquez9940
    @joeenriquez9940 Год назад

    J33557 here from SA . Residential since 2005. My company also in involved in commercial, but me I prefer residential. The difference I Servín a bn large company like mine and a smaller company when I started is I strictly do trim. I’ve also done top-out for many years. In the smaller company I did whatever I was assigned that day, I was apprentice at the time. Enjoy your vids👍. Spurs Mavericks 🤔I’ll go with Spurs😉

  • @mdubb9621
    @mdubb9621 Год назад

    Omg!!! Im on a rapid construction job on Fort Bragg and we have safety meetings EVERY morning that are redundant!!!

  • @d1vin1ty
    @d1vin1ty 2 года назад +1

    I think something missed which maybe you guys don't do on residential, but commercial is much more structured which can or can't be a good thing. We skip our lunches and breaks in residential so we finish an hour earlier not taking the gov't mandated paid 15 minute breaks or the company 30 minute unpaid lunch, and a lot of guys intermittent fast and maybe have a snack at some point. And there's more flexibility in starting. Some of the guys like to start at the normal 7, other 6:30 or even 6 and have an earlier day because they're working a large development of housing or their task for the next day is known in new residential construction. So there can be a groundwork day where it's like 5:30-1 as opposed to commercial being 7-3:30 (they usually only do 2 15s and skip lunch too so actually 7-3)

  • @Jakevrana
    @Jakevrana Год назад

    As an electrician, I liked doing industrial jobs, for us though it was because we ran conduit instead of romex. Most of us would rather use stranded wire and pull it through pipe any day, having to drill through wall studs or even worse, working on a complete house, and running new wire is not my idea of a good time.

  • @celowdamu52
    @celowdamu52 2 года назад

    I started out in 07 doing commercial plumbing... the owner of the company was a service plumber taking on commercial jobs ... his downfall was being a master who has to rely on his journeyman to be his crutch

  • @tomsawyer4131
    @tomsawyer4131 2 года назад +1

    Hi Roger, great video! I'm an apprentice plumber just joined the union. Have you eve done industrial? We do that here as well as service and commercial.

  • @dada8187
    @dada8187 9 месяцев назад

    I do " light commercial," and I think it's the rest of both worlds.❤

  • @The513Warning
    @The513Warning 2 года назад +2

    I just started my commercial apprenticeship through my union a couple months back and it's the heights that get to me. Well, the equipment more than heights. The building I'm at has a ceiling at 39 feet. Going up in the wobbly scissor lifts don't bother me anymore, but the boom lifts absolutely terrify me. I'm highly considering switching to residential once my apprenticeship is up.

    • @Allergic2broke
      @Allergic2broke 2 года назад

      I just got in but In my local residential plumbing gets paid $5 less an hour. Hoping to stay commercial for a while. Any advice for a newbie on the job site?

    • @The513Warning
      @The513Warning 2 года назад +4

      @@Allergic2broke I forgot residential gets paid less. I've been in my union as an apprenticeship for two months now, so I'm still new myself. You'll see that there's a lot of talking behind people's backs, so don't tell anyone anything personal or else it will travel.

    • @Allergic2broke
      @Allergic2broke 2 года назад

      @@The513Warning will do man. What kind of tasks do they have you doing?

    • @The513Warning
      @The513Warning 2 года назад +1

      @@Allergic2broke My journeyman has been letting me run some pipe already and tie into things. So far though, it's just been tons of layout, make hangers for pipes, gluing stuff and TONS of standing around. The site I'm at is pretty hectic right now and they're on crunch time, so with me being a first year apprentice and inexperienced, there's only so much I can do.

    • @The513Warning
      @The513Warning 2 года назад +2

      @@Allergic2broke Oh, try to think ahead and grab material for your journeyman whenever possible. If you're going to be setting up pipe, grab the right size cutters, pro presses, couplings, etc. ahead of time. It shows that you're paying attention and eager. But I'm still new myself, so I'm still learning too.

  • @Dogatemyhomework927
    @Dogatemyhomework927 11 месяцев назад

    Residential… fun with people and most of all, the equipment and supplies as a general rule are physically lighter….
    Those tight crawls completely suck though

  • @angelraught7920
    @angelraught7920 2 года назад +3

    Oof. Especially 2 or 3 year old past restaurants trying to make a come back today

  • @angelraught7920
    @angelraught7920 2 года назад +1

    Commercial can SOMETIMES be more hectic and damn near chaotic if, say, you're working on a barely being built multi-unit townhouse complex ( one of my mentors called it 'Resi-mmercial') doin pvc and water pipe after the framers do their job but the architect messed up. It's multiple teams (plumbers, vent, drywall, sparkies, roofers etc) and you DO get that commoroderie but if something don't fit right, and it NEEDS that fall or it can't drop that low because the dry wall needs to go up and thr ceiling will be touching q 6 foot residents head, you gotta go down the line. I know you said you could all put your heads together and brainstorm but it ain't always like that and some GCs just don't know what's going on because some teams keep on quitting on account of a 1 and a half month task on a project turning to 4 and not getting paid.
    So if one team stops, it can cause a trainwreck.
    This particular situation, I hear, still has a high turnover to this day.

  • @3hristopher
    @3hristopher Год назад

    If you have a bunch of certifications like your f60 and g60 in ny you can apply for nycha and possibly get paid 50 and hr

  • @shellcracker18
    @shellcracker18 2 года назад +1

    Commercial service is what I love

  • @BuckFieri
    @BuckFieri 2 года назад

    I’ve found that residential has bigger highs and lows where commercial is more of the same day in day out. I prefer the variability of residential but I know plenty of folk that prefer the commercial side of things.

  • @benjaminhurst8207
    @benjaminhurst8207 6 дней назад

    What about guys that do small commercial work that’s totallllly different than residential or big jobs

  • @stevetheplumberbreeding7402
    @stevetheplumberbreeding7402 Год назад

    I definitely prefer residential, Typically less headaches 😅and preferably in my neck of the woods 😅🏠🚿🚽🛁🪠I'm not to picky 😂

  • @williamdwyer3302
    @williamdwyer3302 2 года назад

    do both sides of this coin.when costruction slow's down in commercial.i put on atleast 20lb's doing residential service.either way learning as much as you can in any trade is benificial to you.

  • @jpmonin7429
    @jpmonin7429 2 года назад

    Ima commercial plumber for a huge mechanical company. We have a saftey meeting every damn morning. Along with a stretch and flex.

  • @jorgeub27
    @jorgeub27 2 года назад +1

    I only do residential. Is people respect me when I come into their Homes 😎

  • @joshmiller8528
    @joshmiller8528 2 года назад

    I do commercial plumbing. I also do a little bit a service work. They both have benefits. Commercial work my hours are more consistent and service work they are less consistent.

  • @jonhart8185
    @jonhart8185 Год назад +1

    As a worker, I prefer big commercial/industrial, but as a business owner, the profit margins are way too slim and you always wonder which one of your guys is going to bunk something up. As a business owner, I have found residential remodels to be most lucrative.

    • @puppetier1835
      @puppetier1835 Год назад

      Remodels are where it is at imo. Good money, steady work and much more rewarding to see before and after results.

  • @Mike-01234
    @Mike-01234 8 месяцев назад

    I work for a electric utility and the amount of meetings is unbelievable. It's lot like government work the problem is can't get someone to do their job until you have a meeting. Everything requires a meeting to get things done we hire project managers they are professional nags. What they do is call meetings with the person who suppose to do something and also their direct supervisor, manager, or sometimes both. We have lot of safety stand down meetings. We even have them now when things break call that operational stand down meeting something failed we have to discuss what to do keep it from breaking. Cost is astronomical people wonder why their electric bills keep going up and up.

  • @kenbrown2808
    @kenbrown2808 2 года назад

    the thing I didn't like as much about commercial work was that there are really only a handful of people who get to finish the project. the rest of them move on before it is done. a factor in project satisfaction is that the atmosphere of the jobsite is totally dependent on the foreman or project superintendant. I've only ever worked on one commercial project where the company made money, and ironically, it was the project where the estimator really screwed up his bid.
    the best and worst thing about commercial work is that you get into a routine. some people like doing the same task for days on end, other people get bored with it. I personally like custom work that lets me play with the newest stuff on somebody else's dime.

  • @UDoIt2
    @UDoIt2 2 года назад

    Shared this with a friend. Love the insight.

  • @jamesloera9767
    @jamesloera9767 2 года назад

    Hello Mr. Wakefield, I am a journeyman plumber from Austin, Texas. I have been doing commercial plumbing for about 9 years. I decided to change directions, I got a job offer with a new up coming custom home builder you might have heard of them, MidCentury homes. I'm nervous but also confident at the same time. Can you give me some advice? What should I expect? What do you think?
    Thank you sir.

    • @The_snatch_wrecker
      @The_snatch_wrecker 2 года назад +1

      A lot of homeless people in Austin, frankly it’s a sh!thole.

  • @Ugplumber
    @Ugplumber Месяц назад

    Personally like residential more due to dealing with customers and constant, different problems to solve.

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  Месяц назад +1

      I'm right there with you...have you done commercial too?

    • @Ugplumber
      @Ugplumber Месяц назад

      I have, we specialize in residential but do some bigger commercial jobs. Usually relines.

  • @josephpotter7547
    @josephpotter7547 2 года назад

    You can’t beat the commission of residential service I worked commercial new construction for 5 yrs and commercial service for 2 and now do residential you can’t beat the commission

  • @willcamp6319
    @willcamp6319 Год назад

    Commercial jobs can also be a pain to do if you have a project manager who is a micromanager

  • @johnhauk2885
    @johnhauk2885 8 месяцев назад

    Residential 100% Ive done both, and it seems to me that commercial jobs wear on you more than residential.

  • @buddytheelf6416
    @buddytheelf6416 2 года назад

    I think commercial can be a bit more risky for a small business plumber, because of the amount of time you’re on that job, it feels you’re putting all of your eggs in one basket. It’s not quite that, but losing a client that you was supposed to work for much longer and collect more income from us a much larger blow than a res service client. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @williamstewart1883
    @williamstewart1883 2 года назад

    I work in construction, mostly apartment buildings. I like to think its like plumbing a house, but multiplied 40, 50, 60 times over. It's residential, but on a commercial level I guess.

    • @natehale1982
      @natehale1982 2 года назад

      The way you vent and stack in a high rise vs a house is completely different. Fire separation in multi story residential complicates it just that much more.

  • @elecoustic123
    @elecoustic123 2 года назад

    Roger, is there a free way to secure your official company name before you've officially gone into business?

  • @gobulls372
    @gobulls372 2 года назад

    130 chicago plumber here. High rises are where it's at. More money, normal hours (no on call you do your 8 and go home), no dealing with customers who are clueless about plumbing, it's cleaner, and you know what your doing each day no surprises. Also I like knowing what job I'm going to each day I hate bouncing around

    • @alexpolicht9332
      @alexpolicht9332 2 года назад

      Do you guys work with steam fitters or separate locals/trades?

    • @gobulls372
      @gobulls372 2 года назад

      Fitters are a different union

    • @celestial5236
      @celestial5236 2 года назад

      ​@@gobulls372 Which contractor do you work for? I start Monday for mechanical inc in Dekalb

  • @zoubeirfaouzi149
    @zoubeirfaouzi149 2 года назад

    The company that I work for tries to mix everything up. Residential high buildings, low houses, commercial business, military defense sites etc. Sometimes we work on a job for a couple of days or one. But most of the I'm in my bus going from job to job. I work 70+ hours a week but I love. They give me guaranteed paycheck of 2k and a percentage of every job I do. End of the month I earn around 2,5 or 3k.

  • @TeslaBoy123
    @TeslaBoy123 Год назад

    I don't like go to work in big building bcz is a nightmare if u forget a tool u have to walk to work truck 30 blocks where u park or more then back and forth some building 🥵

  • @projextacee9613
    @projextacee9613 4 месяца назад

    Personally I don’t like going into other people’s houses , or dealing with poopy pipes , I prefer new construction commercial as in my years of doing commercial I’ve over only encountered poopy pipes ones and it wasn’t no where near as bad as my experience in residential

  • @blazzin12
    @blazzin12 9 месяцев назад

    We focus on new construction residential

  • @enriquereza2363
    @enriquereza2363 2 года назад

    Awesome Video. 👍🏼

  • @dougbrison
    @dougbrison 5 месяцев назад

    I’m proud to be your thumbnail. You tube famous. I’ve had multiple coworkers and students contact me to let me know that I was a thumbnail.

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  5 месяцев назад

      Is that seriously you? 😅

    • @dougbrison
      @dougbrison 5 месяцев назад

      Yes 😂it started with google searches lol

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  5 месяцев назад

      Do you happen to work for Fixed Today? 😂

    • @dougbrison
      @dougbrison 5 месяцев назад

      Ken Neyer in Cincinnati

    • @RogerWakefield
      @RogerWakefield  5 месяцев назад

      HA well I Google searched "Commercial Plumbing" under Images, this photo showed up from a company called Fixed Today Plumbing, so I thought I'd ask 🤷‍♂️

  • @taylorsmith9629
    @taylorsmith9629 2 года назад +1

    Thing that’s scares me about residential is pit bulls i can’t stand dogs but especially pits. I feel commercial would be safer for me.

    • @johndavis7803
      @johndavis7803 Год назад

      Lol 🤣🤣

    • @taylorsmith9629
      @taylorsmith9629 Год назад

      @@johndavis7803 what’s funny about getting mauled by pit bulls? It happens to plumbers and professionals of any industry that go to peoples homes all the time.

  • @atacstringer8573
    @atacstringer8573 Год назад

    I will say I hate working in places like my fineries my experience with that is that the people in charge don't care about you at all some do but most don't but if you're doing residential even if you're still working for somebody chances are that person cares more about their employees then finally of hundreds of people sometimes thousands

  • @pjplumber2146
    @pjplumber2146 2 года назад

    The cover photo. The combos are back falling. Do I win a prize 😂

  • @charliep5139
    @charliep5139 Год назад

    6:10
    So true about the work place….

  • @jmac213stuff
    @jmac213stuff Год назад

    Good thing in Los Angeles area, all lunch trucks have an A+ food grade stamp, they have to gourmet. All the roach coaches got ran out to Texas. LOL

  • @joreaux3449
    @joreaux3449 2 года назад

    How do you get so many relevant video clips?

  • @albaphetgaming
    @albaphetgaming 2 года назад

    Residential to Commercial back to Residential. I hated commercial, found it very boring compared to Residential repair. No problem solving nothing to look at and have to come up with a solution.

  • @justinreed7093
    @justinreed7093 8 месяцев назад

    service is the best for so many reason's