Something worth adding... One major difference between trade school and apprenticeship programs is how difficult it can be to get into. A trade school will gladly take you as a student. Welcome you with open arms. With apprentice programs, a company has a tough decision to make. Do we want to spend a lot of money and time to invest in this person, with the hope they will love where they work and want to invest back in the organization? It adds a sense of vulnerability to the company. So with that said, if going through an apprentice program is on your radar, bring your A-game and impress the heck out of the company because they would be putting a lot into you.
So I was thinking of getting into an apprentice program b/c I didn’t know if I would like the job to begin with so I wanted hands on training to see if it was a career I wanted to do if I I would just leave but what I’m getting from your comment is if I’m unsure than maybe it’s best to just go to a trade school instead. Is that right? What are your thoughts?
Right now I’m in Houston Community College. I’m taking Hvac classes ( semester credit hour). But I wanna work with a friend that does Service tech (Helper) and then get my own business in the future. But I wanna get my Hvac certificate from college you know just in case.
In most cases no you do not. It depends on the company, but for most, if you fit what they’re looking for, they could be willing to train you internally. For us, prior experience is not a pre-requisite for employment.
I went to trade school, educated myself in the electrical trade. Got different certificates such as completing of program certificate, OSHA 30, CPR, Security & Fire installation & my state electrician trainee card. I took my knowledge with me & started working for a decent electrical company that taught me a lot. Was there for about 7 months & got into the IBEW. I can say my education & little experience got me into the union. Also I passed the math test and had all the qualifications such as clean record, diploma, proof of algebra and they knew I was a good candidate who knew exactly what I was getting into.
I have been doing HVAC/sheet metal mechanic for 33 years and all for the same small family owned company.i didn’t go to trade school and did a proper apprenticeship. I learned so much from the man I worked with and stayed friends until his passing. We had new hires who went to a trade school that knew just enough to get in trouble.none of them learned sheet metal or state code. If you are thinking of getting into this trade do yourself a favor and save your money and don’t go to a trade school.find a small company and do a apprenticeship then stay with that company.you won’t just be a number like at these larger companies.
I did the same thing man it's awesome I see the gentlemen that taught me at first like an older brother. Willing to walk you through things over the phone and things like that when your stuck on a job. It happens to the best and it's good to have those guys that have been doing it for 20+ years
I recommend going to trade school for a semester then apply for an apprenticeship. I got my EPA universal and some basic hvac knowledge then applied for an apprenticeship all while working full time. Applied and interviewed for an apprenticeship with Trane. Got hired on starting out at $24/hr.
@@papaandrew3213 Only $1600. Plus tools call it $2000, but they had scholarship programs as well I could have applied for had I known. Worth the investment! Imo
@Snoopy Town I was thinking of going to an electrical school called Capstone College its like 17k for the full 6 months. maybe I'll just do what you did.
The weird thing I’ve noticed is most apprenticeships advertise 1-2yrs experience required so people who apply wanting to get into a trade get turned away when they apply my brother has applied to tons of apprenticeships and never gets noticed. But went to trade school found a job almost immediately I get that it’s dependent on the company but it blows my mind when I see companies looking for apprentice but want someone who’s basically a journeyman lol just hire journeyman at that point
Idk were you live but sometimes it depends on the area. I was born and raised in upstate NY and I could not find work at all with no experience and I applied everywhere. I ended up moving to AZ for more work opportunities and it worked. I found a job with a air duct cleaning company that paid me well, started as an assistant and got promoted to a crew lead in 2 months, after almost a year of working that job I just applied to a apprenticeship to a big hvac company out here and they said they there very impressed with a resume and want me to go in for a interview. I go in some point this week. But I know for a fact I would never of gotten the same opportunities were I lived ny
I am literally seeing this right now. I'm employed in an unrelated field but want to do something else and every apprenticeship program I see requires experience or degrees/certifications like WTF is the point of this being an apprentice program?
@@merlink.7287 exactly my point id recommend looking for apprentice programs that are connected to a trade school idk what field your looking into but they really can help also see if you can tour them before you jump into something
I applied too a trade school and I actually got a call through them from a local independent contractor. Turns out he’s really low on workers for his HVAC business and was looking for a pre apprentice. I hit it off pretty well with him and and start Monday… the pay isn’t that bad and worst case scenario in ab 6-7 months when school starts if he doesn’t join the union I’ll probably have to leave him and go into the union as an actual apprentice with a new contractor but with experience under my belt. Took me ab a year in a half too get in but I did it. Finding the right person/ company is the hard part in my opinion 😭
I have probably applied to at least 100 different apprentice positions in the last few months with no calls, definitely going to need to save up and go to trade school.
Just got hired with zero experience. If anybody is considering it in 2021/2022, now is a great time to get your foot in the door. Same for any trade. I had an offer for a plumbing apprenticeship or HVAC. Both employers commented that they can't even get people to show up for an interview. They are desperate. Wages are up a little bit as a result. No chance I would get the hourly wage they're starting me at just 2 years ago.
It depends on the company you’re applying for. If they offer an apprenticeship position it’s because they’re willing to help you grow. I’ve seen guys fresh out of trade school very book smart but basically useless in the field which is normal. The way to learn is in real world scenarios. I went to school it took me 3 years to get an hvac job because employers want experience 3-5yrs minimum. Good luck!
@@alexander_3923 yes you don’t even have to know anyone. Really depends on the company. It’s getting harder to find people that want to do this kind of work. If any schooling is required the company will let you know.
@@prodbyhostile gotcha yea im thinking about either electrican or hvac which one u think is better i live in vegas so during the summer im sure hvac can bring alot of money
There's also some careers where you take lile a year or two of trade school then go onto apprenticeship. Often if you go straight to apprenticeship, you must first pre-apprentice for a set number of work hours. Just an FYI😉
Yea got lucky and score a pre job for Hvac and start Monday. After 6-7 months schooling for the union starts so hopefully this experience will help me out before I hit the books.
What I have notice is when a company is willing to take on a apprentice they typically want that apprentice to have a minimum of 2 years before considering hire them on into their apprenticeship program. I feel like the best way to get in to be a HVAC tech is to maybe try and get in as a air duct cleaner and prove your worth there and hopefully that company sees that you have the desire and the want to become an HVAC tech. Keep in mind most air duct tech make about $16-18 an hour before you start to see the $24,$25 etc coming in. I personal think trade school is the way to go, Where I live once you finish the two year program you come in as journeyman. Most journeyman pay starts out about $35 an hour non union if you go the union route ( Sheet Metal) you'll start off higher then that $35 an hour rate
One thing that should be stated is looking into the school you are going into, my old boss was going to a expensive HVACR school and didn’t get much info about it or maybe was mislead but it was purely books and exams, he said he only did 2 lab days after being in 8 of the 10 months, he was passing the test with A,s and B,s but he wanted hands on knowledge that he didn’t get
@@zaitanx7407I did the same thing. My school I got a good grade and even got my epa license but honestly, I don’t know crap. It’s been years since I got license
Question: A retired HVAC tech informed me that going straight into the field instead of completing trade school is a disadvantage because a certificate will earn a higher rate of pay, and also allow you entry into a labor union. Is any of that true, or is it outdated information?
I've been doing this for almost 4 years now I went to school at 1st and it was hard to work and do school at the same time then I got in the union on my own I learned alot on my own and from learning what I could from the tech I worked with now the company I'm with they have me in union school so it all depends on if you get a good tech to teach you and things you do need to read on you're own and learn as well
Thanks for watching! Do you have any other questions about trade school vs apprenticeship? I can forward your questions to our technicians so their experience can help you make the best decision for you!
I didn’t went to any high school n, I’m new here in Minnesota so I want a learn electrician, so plz help me , I don’t know anything about electricity, I’m new , if u guys help me about electricity, so tell where I have to join , wt should I learn plz help me , i will do it , it’s is my carrier plz I don’t know anything help me
Yeah I’m going to school for construction management but i don’t know if this is what I want to do. I want the degree and I will get it that’s a promise but after words tho. I might go do hvac tech or get an apprentice for carpentry
Had a very hard time finding an apprenticeship at 22. No one wanted to give a green sparky an opportunity. Until I met a friend that was an electrician and hooked me up. Idk why I can flip patties at my local dickies burgers and get paid $22, but sweat my ass off while being yelled at everyday as an apprentice couldn’t get me $25 🙄. Trades aren’t for everyone terrible experience. Working my way up the management ladder at Costco now lot more comfortable work environment both mentally and physically….im no wimp either if you read this far I can probably beat you up as I did my journeymen 😅
Trade schools are very important in many, many ways. I wouldn’t hire anyone who doesn’t have some kind of a diploma/certificate. It tells you something about potential employees. Another item; I highly recommend a service tech to join RSES ( Refrigeration Service Engineers Society) & also get NATE ( North American Technician Excellence) certified. It is a definite plus on a technicians application when looking for a job.
This is an absolute no-brainer for me. You have to go the apprenticeship route, but you must make sure that the apprenticeship program is credited through the state. A lot of these trade schools will not tell you or be honest with you that their school is not accredited by the state so pretty much you’re gonna waste thousands of dollars in a trade school and it’s not going to do you any good You’re better off going to a company that offers an apprenticeship program a real one that you actually have to still go to school or take online classes, but is credited in whichever state you’re in do not I repeat do not make the mistake of going to a trade school and thinking That now you have the same credentials as a guy that went to a accredited apprenticeship program
Nobody talks about when you get a master license all these big companies want to make you sign legal non compete agreements....I think these big shops just want young kids or helpers.
You would get paid more if you go to school because you have knowledge on what your doing and companies don’t have to pay to train vs apprenticeship companies have to pay for your training and take the risk if your going to stay once the apprenticeship is over so you get paid less.Go to school get your knowledge and hands on work and good teachers you can also join a union when you are fresh out of school hoped this helps.
Can international student apply for apprenticeship if not can igo to trade school and then go toapprenticeship how much time it takes before the actual apprenticeship starts
Hey pal, I am Barbender and fixer by trade. What it is called in USA? I have searched in Google but could not find out about it.I want to take courses related to Barbending in USA or skills acknowledging course so that I can transfer my 7+ experiences , do you have any suggestions?
Something worth adding... One major difference between trade school and apprenticeship programs is how difficult it can be to get into. A trade school will gladly take you as a student. Welcome you with open arms. With apprentice programs, a company has a tough decision to make. Do we want to spend a lot of money and time to invest in this person, with the hope they will love where they work and want to invest back in the organization? It adds a sense of vulnerability to the company. So with that said, if going through an apprentice program is on your radar, bring your A-game and impress the heck out of the company because they would be putting a lot into you.
So I was thinking of getting into an apprentice program b/c I didn’t know if I would like the job to begin with so I wanted hands on training to see if it was a career I wanted to do if I I would just leave but what I’m getting from your comment is if I’m unsure than maybe it’s best to just go to a trade school instead.
Is that right? What are your thoughts?
Right now I’m in Houston Community College. I’m taking Hvac classes ( semester credit hour). But I wanna work with a friend that does Service tech (Helper) and then get my own business in the future. But I wanna get my Hvac certificate from college you know just in case.
In most cases no you do not. It depends on the company, but for most, if you fit what they’re looking for, they could be willing to train you internally. For us, prior experience is not a pre-requisite for employment.
I went to trade school, educated myself in the electrical trade. Got different certificates such as completing of program certificate, OSHA 30, CPR, Security & Fire installation & my state electrician trainee card. I took my knowledge with me & started working for a decent electrical company that taught me a lot. Was there for about 7 months & got into the IBEW. I can say my education & little experience got me into the union. Also I passed the math test and had all the qualifications such as clean record, diploma, proof of algebra and they knew I was a good candidate who knew exactly what I was getting into.
I have been doing HVAC/sheet metal mechanic for 33 years and all for the same small family owned company.i didn’t go to trade school and did a proper apprenticeship.
I learned so much from the man I worked with and stayed friends until his passing.
We had new hires who went to a trade school that knew just enough to get in trouble.none of them learned sheet metal or state code.
If you are thinking of getting into this trade do yourself a favor and save your money and don’t go to a trade school.find a small company and do a apprenticeship then stay with that company.you won’t just be a number like at these larger companies.
I did the same thing man it's awesome I see the gentlemen that taught me at first like an older brother. Willing to walk you through things over the phone and things like that when your stuck on a job. It happens to the best and it's good to have those guys that have been doing it for 20+ years
I agree with you in that is the best opportunity, but that opportunity is not common these days.
I recommend going to trade school for a semester then apply for an apprenticeship. I got my EPA universal and some basic hvac knowledge then applied for an apprenticeship all while working full time. Applied and interviewed for an apprenticeship with Trane. Got hired on starting out at $24/hr.
How much did the 1st semester cost you?
@@papaandrew3213 Only $1600. Plus tools call it $2000, but they had scholarship programs as well I could have applied for had I known. Worth the investment! Imo
@Snoopy Town I was thinking of going to an electrical school called Capstone College its like 17k for the full 6 months. maybe I'll just do what you did.
Where was this at? What city/state?
@@Betoven81 Dallas, Texas
The weird thing I’ve noticed is most apprenticeships advertise 1-2yrs experience required so people who apply wanting to get into a trade get turned away when they apply my brother has applied to tons of apprenticeships and never gets noticed. But went to trade school found a job almost immediately I get that it’s dependent on the company but it blows my mind when I see companies looking for apprentice but want someone who’s basically a journeyman lol just hire journeyman at that point
Idk were you live but sometimes it depends on the area. I was born and raised in upstate NY and I could not find work at all with no experience and I applied everywhere. I ended up moving to AZ for more work opportunities and it worked. I found a job with a air duct cleaning company that paid me well, started as an assistant and got promoted to a crew lead in 2 months, after almost a year of working that job I just applied to a apprenticeship to a big hvac company out here and they said they there very impressed with a resume and want me to go in for a interview. I go in some point this week. But I know for a fact I would never of gotten the same opportunities were I lived ny
Exactly every apprenticeships require experience like what
I am literally seeing this right now. I'm employed in an unrelated field but want to do something else and every apprenticeship program I see requires experience or degrees/certifications like WTF is the point of this being an apprentice program?
@@merlink.7287 exactly my point id recommend looking for apprentice programs that are connected to a trade school idk what field your looking into but they really can help also see if you can tour them before you jump into something
I applied too a trade school and I actually got a call through them from a local independent contractor. Turns out he’s really low on workers for his HVAC business and was looking for a pre apprentice. I hit it off pretty well with him and and start Monday… the pay isn’t that bad and worst case scenario in ab 6-7 months when school starts if he doesn’t join the union I’ll probably have to leave him and go into the union as an actual apprentice with a new contractor but with experience under my belt. Took me ab a year in a half too get in but I did it. Finding the right person/ company is the hard part in my opinion 😭
I have probably applied to at least 100 different apprentice positions in the last few months with no calls, definitely going to need to save up and go to trade school.
You’ll find one I did
@@ryanthepianoman27 where if you dont mind sharing
@@ryanthepianoman27 curious about this too
@@ellgonzales6165 Sc in the union and outside
Just got hired with zero experience. If anybody is considering it in 2021/2022, now is a great time to get your foot in the door. Same for any trade. I had an offer for a plumbing apprenticeship or HVAC. Both employers commented that they can't even get people to show up for an interview. They are desperate. Wages are up a little bit as a result. No chance I would get the hourly wage they're starting me at just 2 years ago.
Congrats and good luck with your new position!
i would like to get the apprenticeship in HVAC kindly assist me i live in philadelphia
How do you apply for a apprenticeship or join one?
@@Dennis-ki5pgdid you end up joining an apprenticeship?
In what city and state if you don’t mind me asking?
It depends on the company you’re applying for. If they offer an apprenticeship position it’s because they’re willing to help you grow. I’ve seen guys fresh out of trade school very book smart but basically useless in the field which is normal. The way to learn is in real world scenarios. I went to school it took me 3 years to get an hvac job because employers want experience 3-5yrs minimum. Good luck!
Damn 3 years ?
@@moneyonmind2412 that’s just my experience I didn’t know anyone in the trade. It’s much different now
@@prodbyhostile so if u know someone in the trade u can work in the trade even if u dont go to trade school im new to all this
@@alexander_3923 yes you don’t even have to know anyone. Really depends on the company. It’s getting harder to find people that want to do this kind of work. If any schooling is required the company will let you know.
@@prodbyhostile gotcha yea im thinking about either electrican or hvac which one u think is better i live in vegas so during the summer im sure hvac can bring alot of money
There's also some careers where you take lile a year or two of trade school then go onto apprenticeship. Often if you go straight to apprenticeship, you must first pre-apprentice for a set number of work hours. Just an FYI😉
Yea got lucky and score a pre job for Hvac and start Monday. After 6-7 months schooling for the union starts so hopefully this experience will help me out before I hit the books.
What I have notice is when a company is willing to take on a apprentice they typically want that apprentice to have a minimum of 2 years before considering hire them on into their apprenticeship program. I feel like the best way to get in to be a HVAC tech is to maybe try and get in as a air duct cleaner and prove your worth there and hopefully that company sees that you have the desire and the want to become an HVAC tech. Keep in mind most air duct tech make about $16-18 an hour before you start to see the $24,$25 etc coming in. I personal think trade school is the way to go, Where I live once you finish the two year program you come in as journeyman. Most journeyman pay starts out about $35 an hour non union if you go the union route ( Sheet Metal) you'll start off higher then that $35 an hour rate
One thing that should be stated is looking into the school you are going into, my old boss was going to a expensive HVACR school and didn’t get much info about it or maybe was mislead but it was purely books and exams, he said he only did 2 lab days after being in 8 of the 10 months, he was passing the test with A,s and B,s but he wanted hands on knowledge that he didn’t get
That’s sounds like my trade school what would you recommend once I graduate?
@@zaitanx7407I did the same thing. My school I got a good grade and even got my epa license but honestly, I don’t know crap. It’s been years since I got license
Question: A retired HVAC tech informed me that going straight into the field instead of completing trade school is a disadvantage because a certificate will earn a higher rate of pay, and also allow you entry into a labor union. Is any of that true, or is it outdated information?
Hi James, thanks for the great question! Matt answered it personally in this week's video: ruclips.net/video/Kc2WMdfxzD8/видео.html. Hope that helps!
Good point. That concept is not out dated.
I've been doing this for almost 4 years now I went to school at 1st and it was hard to work and do school at the same time then I got in the union on my own I learned alot on my own and from learning what I could from the tech I worked with now the company I'm with they have me in union school so it all depends on if you get a good tech to teach you and things you do need to read on you're own and learn as well
Thanks for watching! Do you have any other questions about trade school vs apprenticeship? I can forward your questions to our technicians so their experience can help you make the best decision for you!
I didn’t went to any high school n, I’m new here in Minnesota so I want a learn electrician, so plz help me , I don’t know anything about electricity, I’m new , if u guys help me about electricity, so tell where I have to join , wt should I learn plz help me , i will do it , it’s is my carrier plz I don’t know anything help me
Yeah I’m going to school for construction management but i don’t know if this is what I want to do. I want the degree and I will get it that’s a promise but after words tho. I might go do hvac tech or get an apprentice for carpentry
Had a very hard time finding an apprenticeship at 22. No one wanted to give a green sparky an opportunity. Until I met a friend that was an electrician and hooked me up. Idk why I can flip patties at my local dickies burgers and get paid $22, but sweat my ass off while being yelled at everyday as an apprentice couldn’t get me $25 🙄. Trades aren’t for everyone terrible experience. Working my way up the management ladder at Costco now lot more comfortable work environment both mentally and physically….im no wimp either if you read this far I can probably beat you up as I did my journeymen 😅
As a soon to be veteran, would doing trade school be the best route since I won't have to worry about the cost of it because of my GI bill ?
Yes. I went through an HVAC school with the GI bill and learned alot without having to pay for it.
I plan on going to school and working at the same time (if I can get a job with hvac)
I’ll rely on trade school at a community college
Trade schools are very important in many, many ways. I wouldn’t hire anyone who doesn’t have some kind of a diploma/certificate. It tells you something about potential employees. Another item; I highly recommend a service tech to join RSES ( Refrigeration Service Engineers Society) & also get NATE ( North American Technician Excellence) certified. It is a definite plus on a technicians application when looking for a job.
You’re just trying to get people to join your apprentice program, someone who goes to trade school is much better prepared then someone who hasn’t
This is an absolute no-brainer for me. You have to go the apprenticeship route, but you must make sure that the apprenticeship program is credited through the state. A lot of these trade schools will not tell you or be honest with you that their school is not accredited by the state so pretty much you’re gonna waste thousands of dollars in a trade school and it’s not going to do you any good You’re better off going to a company that offers an apprenticeship program a real one that you actually have to still go to school or take online classes, but is credited in whichever state you’re in do not I repeat do not make the mistake of going to a trade school and thinking That now you have the same credentials as a guy that went to a accredited apprenticeship program
I got told no im in indiana u have to have the epa license insurance pollicy
Having a good personality will be hard for me because of my depression
go to Jesus bro, he'll EASILY take that away
@@timsetto amen
@@timsetto oh shut up
Wake up everyday with your A game face , don’t miss a day
How are things now?
Nobody talks about when you get a master license all these big companies want to make you sign legal non compete agreements....I think these big shops just want young kids or helpers.
I’m actually doing both ,But I’ve been and Apprentice for 3 years , and now finally I’m going to school, is it going to be worth it ?
Hey i had a question how do you know to find the right trade school I just don’t want to get scammed
It’s also the fact that if you know somebody you gonna get into that apprenticeship program. That’s just the way the world works, unfortunately.
Overall do you get paid the same or different and whats the difference or how big is it?
You would get paid more if you go to school because you have knowledge on what your doing and companies don’t have to pay to train vs apprenticeship companies have to pay for your training and take the risk if your going to stay once the apprenticeship is over so you get paid less.Go to school get your knowledge and hands on work and good teachers you can also join a union when you are fresh out of school hoped this helps.
@@therelaxedoutsider5279 how do you know what trade school is right I just don’t want to get scammed or a bs certification
Can international student apply for apprenticeship if not can igo to trade school and then go toapprenticeship how much time it takes before the actual apprenticeship starts
Hey pal,
I am Barbender and fixer by trade. What it is called in USA?
I have searched in Google but could not find out about it.I want to take courses related to Barbending in USA or skills acknowledging course so that I can transfer my 7+ experiences , do you have any suggestions?
Is it possible to do both at the same time?
The correct answer is-10 week trade school first.
Where can I apply in LA straight in no school I want experience.
Is there an age limit?
I’m 57 🤔
Hello sir. Have you started hvac work yet?
Apprenticees?? I think she meant apprentice 6:05
Good evening please I am from Africa how do I apply for this apprenticeship?
Google any local union trade in your city... That you are interested on... Good luck