i spent the 20 for the fake one, but for a valid reason. 1) ive never owned a balisong and im now getting into them. 2)i heard that the fakes are not that bad and are good fake balisongs if you know what I mean. i dont mind the fact that i dont have the "quality" or real "value" cause frankly i dont really care, i just want to have a balisong that i can keep at home and play around with. im not really trying to show off or impress anyone. i just want a balisong for cheap.
kinda same here, just bought an bst alpha beast fake for 120 bucks cause sharp blades are not legal in my country and I want the best trainer I can get
I picked up a fake 42 at a gun show today. I was obvious handles were a plate design not a cast and it didn't have torque straw pins but it does have the balisong butterfly 42 engraved on it and the bench made us 440c on the opposite. Solid 20$ investment
the fake ones actually are pretty good, I have one and it's amazing, flips very well, I think thanks to these guys making the fake bm 42 a lot of people can at least get pretty close to what it's like having a real one, besides the benchmade guys are kind of jerks for discontinuing what most of the flippers claim to be the best balisong ever made, and even if they start making them again, the price they ask for their knives is insane, so stop whining about the chinese making these clones, I think they're great balis, and what makes them even greater is that they are affordable for most people
Kenneth Kourt The value going up on a product due to supply and demand is theivery? So I guess when the price of gold went up that was theivery. Or when stocks increase in value that is as well? You really can't decipher between someone making a knock off product and something going up in value due to increased demand?
#knifezoid, do you really think that I'd give up on Benchmade, the name that made me love the knife, so easily? What knife have you owned that came close? Benchmade closed their doors to me. I found a way to get close again. So here's the real deal: Benchmade is not making the 42 EVER again. People want to charge me imaginary prices for a knife I owned. Will I pay super--reasonable prices for a near-match, after spending countless dollars buying shitty knives? YEAH. FUCK YEAH.
Benchmade 42 handles are made of cast titanium and total weight of 4.1 oz(116.2 gm). Titanium is non magnetic, weighs around 40% less than steel. (geek specs: specific gravity Ti 4.5 gm/cc vs Fe 7.8 gm/cc) In other words the stainless steel fake will weigh more. Since the genuine handles are cast no milling marks, should you see milling marks around the holes then request a lower fake price. The color of Titanium tends to be darker grey vs the silvery bright stainless steel. You can see the subtle color difference at 7:01. Also the stainless steel fakes will be thinner to reduce weight. Hope this helps.
I noticed the number 42 indicating the model under the butterfly logo on the real 42 is smaller font and further away from the butterfly image, somethings VERY consistent from the fake to, all the fakes I have seen so far has larger closer numbers...
for me, the fake one was the best option, i live in Brazil and here an BM 42 cost aprox. R$1400 and i dont want and dont have this money to spent on a Knive.
The main differences that I could see that weren't mentioned were: The tang pin on the real 42 looked smaller and neater, it seemed quite large in comparison on the fake. Also the grooves in the kicker of the fake were much deeper and more pronounced than in the real one. Lastly, the number 42 itself on the blade was much smaller, neater, and further from the logo on the real deal. With that being said, unfortunately, the 42 has been discontinued. This means that small changes to the design to throw off counterfeits will no longer occur and replicas will get even harder to distinguish as their design improves.
I agree with alot of what you say however consider the following 1# chinese consider it to be an honor to be able to copy high quality items 2# its not hurting benchmade because benchmade stopped making the BM42 and they have stated they have no plans to make it again. so where there is a demand there is a market.
It took you roughly 5 minutes to actually get into the comparison. 10/10 would waste 5 minutes of my life listening to some guy babble on about creativity again.
theyre made out of cheap metal like he says in the video after a couple weeks theyll fall apart and usually the screws strip easily you would be buying a saftey hazard, just bad shit waiting to happen
I just bought a t4 titanium bm42 fake. Still waiting on it, but I would like to say its stupid to be so anti-fake knives. People want the bm42, and benchmade could make them, but they don't. Instead they make shitty, heavy, overpriced new stainless steel models, that don't even have a spring latch. The fakes are SO similar. They flip almost identically, and are a tenth of the price. Fuck benchmade, (but fuck exiled cuterly too). I have no problem with the chinese fakes, and I don't think most people that want a good flipper for a good price do either.
+biteme I got mine off DhGate. flipped it as my main until I got my replicant, but when I did it was Hella nice.. came shaper then the REP... as in literally hair popping razor sharp. I loctited mine, tolerances were tight, flipped amazing, well worth the 80 I spent on it. love the sound of the Ti too. still flip it almost every day, not a single issue with it
@Benjamin Huffman My videos usually require at least an attention span of 5 minutes. I know it's a lot to ask. BTW, you can fast forward youtube videos. Just FYI.
Well then bench made should star making the 42 again and people wont have to purposefully buy working 10 dollar fakes cause the real ones are still 400
***** The Benchmade 42 is not a $500 knife, it's a $170 knife that costs $500. I would never ever pay MORE than the retail price for a knife. That's why I'll never have a 42. I'd buy another 62 or 51, or an Alpha Beast or Replicant, or any other high quality balisong.
You're fine, get the cheap fake one, save your money. Most damages you can fix yourself, and if it breaks completely, just buy another one for 20 bucks... You can get 50 fake ones that would be good enough for a lifetime before you could ever get a real one.
Just watched your video and I can honestly say it helped. I work in a weapon shop and we deal with a lot of knives daily. we had have plenty knockoffs go through our store it happens. But the one seriously bad thing is we got a shipment of balisongs in I took it out of the box checked it over nothing looked off. went to flip it open and the handle I held snapped and sent the blade straight into my leg. can't tell you how upset I was.
You asked about our experience with fakes, so here is mine. I'm from Krakow in Poland. It's touristic town and in the down-town I know the shop, that sells balisongs, shurikens, bongos and all kind of crazy stuff, of course as souvenirs and NOT as tools for doing "not-good" stuff. Half of butterflies there are fake Benchmade's. I don't know, how it is with you, but when I am holding a fake, I can just feel, that it's about to fall apart when I'll first use it. Also, the blade part of fake one is often moulded and grinded, not forged. However, these two are indeed really similar, as you said
pliners1 A Flick balisong (www.bladeplay.com/item--Silver-Flick-Butterfly-Knife-Drop--12813) is only 15 dollars but its a great beginners knife but the handles are a bit weak they won't break on ticks but I don't recommend throwing them (personal experiences).
We had our back and forth almost a year ago. I still have 1 real Benchmade 42 and 2 fake 42s. I still stand by the 42, and I am a big supporter, but I still use the fake as my practice knife, and seriously, I don't find anything wrong with it. After a year, it still holds up as a good knife. Much better than what you'd buy in an Army surplus store. The fakes are both ALL steel, and not stainless, so don't put them in the dishwasher, otherwise, the fakes feel and work almost the same, after a year of use. The latch is threaded and adjustable, and it takes the same Torx tools to adjust and fix. Frankly, I agree that your review was sound, in that, you shouldn't get scammed. If you do find yourself paying for the real deal, and end up with a cheap knock-off, you should scream to the hills. However, some knockoffs are fine knives for 1/8 of the cost. Get those. Practice diligently and then decide to buy the real deal.
lmao I got one more video on the FU42 coming...a viewer sent me one of the originals which proves some things that were hidden on newer versions, let the drama begin once again, whatever right, its info, info is good...
I recognize that knife. In fact, If I'm not mistaken I sold it to you way back in the day. I'm glad you're still enjoying it man. -Cody Mertens (Linett)
Hey man, where you been?! Haha, yes I remember buying from you. You still flip? Get on the Jerzeedevil and Balisong Technique if you're not already there man. Good to hear from you. She is still running strong.
My mom ordered a bench made ballisong for me for Christmas, I was real happy til she started worrying because it wasn't showing up,creep in mind she ordered it on thanksgiving and it still didn't show up, we check her email and it says it's on a boat from China.... I asked her where she ordered it from and she said EBay.... I feel so bad because she payed full price for a bench made and it's a fucking cheap piece of shit. I just hope it doesn't break the day I get it.
real quick, just for people who don't know and are here for learning purposes. the Benchmade 42 is actually cast, not milled. thats how they get a solid handle and are able to have the smaller holes along it, whereas the fake is drilled and why they hit the back of the divet. just a quick fact for you guys, and again it is CAST, NOT MILLED from a billet like the majority will say.
Many of the things you're pointing out are only seeable if you have both a real and a fake side by side, which doesn't really happen in the real world. In reality, you won't have anything to compare the fake to.
clones would not be so prevelent if the origonals cost wasent so outrageous. There is not any where near 400$ worth of materals and machine work in those knives. Now if they were made out of aircraft grade Ti with a Titanium nitride coated blade or somthing similar it would be a different story.
not really when you think about how expensive the metals are and then the process that goes into making them all handmade or not they all have to be absolutley perfect and then of course a big company like that has a lot of overhead they need to pay off so its worth it. plus the markup on retail thing can be up to 75 percent so they are actually profiting not just breaking even. and the stores need to make money to
nsquezada27 thats the thing tho the metals are not that expencive they can be found in plenty of other quality knives of much lower cost. The machine work isint that complex infact its fairly basic. i realize that the company needs to make a proffit but unless they only are making a few hundred of these knives and have to recoup all of the tooling costs and such they shouldent be 300 / 400 dollar knives.
Honestly I see what you mean and I get your point about ripping a product off. Some people may not have a budget to purchase an original knife (even the non discontinued models) for $300+ but want to have a cool looking/feeling knife. The design rip-off is ok for me as long as they don't steal the logo and claim to be them
Ye I understand, honestly though, I prefer balisongs like you showcased for Palethius much more than ones from benchmade. Sadly for me I live in the UK where it is illegal to import balisong knives so I'm gonna have to either get a training one or a comb =(
Ehh good video but to be honest, it is about the money issue with em, a few hundred for a benchmade is complete bullshit to me, yeah nice knife but a few hundred bucks FOR A KNIFE? thats a bit much for me tbh, i do have a fake one, its cool and close to the real deal, cause i cant afford a nice real one at the moment, also forget the money, like me we have to buy fake ones cause in the UK theyre illegal other than the trainer, and i dont fancy buying the trainer benchmade for 280dollars
You're paying for the material it's s made of, the manufacturers, the time put into the knife, and the shipping/handling for the delivery, as well as the process itself. Knives are expensive tools. If you buy one, respect it. I could save your life.
I just bought a fake one for 11 dollars. Had no idea of the original price though. Also, I didn't know Benchmade was an actual company. The model name is A316 and I don't know if I should feel bad for spending 38 dollars in total for 3 fake knives.
People support local inustries. This industries keep the jobs in you country and keep your economy running! Imagine everything you buy comes from china, what do you think will happen to your community of unemployed people?
Melder92 Okay you don't listen, we can't if we want a 42 we can't have it so basically we're gonna buy it some where we can still got one no matter where it's from neither how it's made
Thank you for the video. I'm very late to the game. This video was very informative. I'm a noob and heard that there are many fakes out. This'll make me weary of purchasing any secondhand knives.
How does that have anything to do with being a millennial? He wasn't necessarily wrong, you kinda did ramble a little in the beginning. Also, some people can't afford to pay over 500 dollars for the real thing, despite having jobs. Some people need to pay bills, or pay rent. That's the reason a lot of people buy fakes.
Lots of theories but no solid answer. The most common one I heard is the mold and Tooling for the handles was running towards the end of life and they decided not to redo them. Manufacturering Tooling is very expensive.
i got my first butterfly knife about 4 years ago when i was still in taiwan, got it for about 10 bucks. i believe it was made in china, only works for about 2 months. actually after about a week it had some very serious rattle problems and finish came off super fast. but that knife got me into the whole knife world. oh, and the lock on it did not work at all.
The people commenting in support of clones don't seem to understand what it's like to have something they created stolen. Likely because those same people have never created something worth stealing in their life. (EDIT): The one question I have for people who support clones is, why does it need to be a near EXACT copy of the original? It's not like there is an end all be all perfect design so what is the point of making a clone other than to make a quick buck off of an already popular design?
Tim Bain that I couldn't answer, there's some speculation that the balisong was only popularized in the Philippines but was actually invented in France
OK, thanks for the review first by all means. Got some facts and have to find a way to solve: 1 - the BM42 is not longer available 2 - US do not ship such item to my place even if they are available 3 - I want one So in order to have this knife for collection or whatever, there is only one place to go.
I don't really think it's my place to judge a person based off if they buy a knock off or not. I know people have strong opinions on it, but I won't make a personal attack on someone cause they do it. However, I advise people against it cause I do feel it supports the wrong side.
I m not a very smart person, nor do I have any knowledge on knives what so ever. I was just interested in the video cause I saw a balisong in a movie and wanted to know more about it. Just passing a dumb question, would it be possible to tell apart a fake one from a real one by the magnetic properties of the metal used? (one being titanium and the other being cheaper mild steel as said in the video) Again just a dumb question, go easy on me guys.
I think the best way to prevent this kind of stuff is to order right off the manufacture website, or from some of the official distributors listed by the manufacture.
basically a real BM 42 is about 400$, while a fake is anywhere from 30$ to full price. The real ones are very good quality, just about the best balisong you can get. The fake ones look nearly identical, but I guess they can have a lot worse quality.
Another noticeable difference between the real and fake is that titanium has a darker tone to the metal when polished. stainless steel is lighter. if u have a titanium ring or bracelet u can use that as a reference
This comment might be a bit late, but did you ever consider that benchmade doesn't produce 42's anymore? It wont hurt their business. Not to mention even if I had the money for a 42, where would I find one to buy?
I honestly think if the people making the fake replicas would just come up with their own design and logo, the knives would be more respected. I bought one from dhgate, and it flips pretty well actually.
i was thinking about buying a fake benchmade cuz i never heard of someone breaking a fake 42 and i really wanted to know if the qwality of the fake one is good
5:04 to not waste your time
Thank you
Schlomo Kikestein Those 5:04 are mine to keep. You'll never get them back. My ranting has consumed a portion of your life. Woohoo!
Schlomo Kikestein thank you
thank you
Thx dog, May Harambe be with you.
i spent the 20 for the fake one, but for a valid reason. 1) ive never owned a balisong and im now getting into them. 2)i heard that the fakes are not that bad and are good fake balisongs if you know what I mean. i dont mind the fact that i dont have the "quality" or real "value" cause frankly i dont really care, i just want to have a balisong that i can keep at home and play around with. im not really trying to show off or impress anyone. i just want a balisong for cheap.
Exactly
Same here
Parsa Vahdati fake
kinda same here, just bought an bst alpha beast fake for 120 bucks cause sharp blades are not legal in my country and I want the best trainer I can get
@@misterbaker9728 Well hello there
“Thank you, we will make those changes.” - China
I need a order form
I picked up a fake 42 at a gun show today. I was obvious handles were a plate design not a cast and it didn't have torque straw pins but it does have the balisong butterfly 42 engraved on it and the bench made us 440c on the opposite. Solid 20$ investment
payed 35 for one of these and i love it regardless
Why
@@sambeijer6970 to castrate simps like u
@@darreylbee tell em soldier 💯 we don't take kindly to simps around here 😤
@@sambeijer6970 Where at? Did it have that latch?
@@TheReichGamers
MEGAKNIFE prolly
the fake ones actually are pretty good, I have one and it's amazing, flips very well, I think thanks to these guys making the fake bm 42 a lot of people can at least get pretty close to what it's like having a real one, besides the benchmade guys are kind of jerks for discontinuing what most of the flippers claim to be the best balisong ever made, and even if they start making them again, the price they ask for their knives is insane, so stop whining about the chinese making these clones, I think they're great balis, and what makes them even greater is that they are affordable for most people
***** perhaps, but I just use mine for flipping, so I don't care too much about the blade
+serchu taki If benchmade starts producing 42s again, you can bet your ass they will be far above the original $150.
serchu taki you can remove the blade and put a short metal bar in the placea
Owned both knives.The clone is SO close to being right. $500 vs $40? Its the best.
Kenneth Kourt Except that you are supporting theivery...
Nope. $500 for an $180 knife is thievery.
Kenneth Kourt The value going up on a product due to supply and demand is theivery? So I guess when the price of gold went up that was theivery. Or when stocks increase in value that is as well?
You really can't decipher between someone making a knock off product and something going up in value due to increased demand?
There is no increased demand without SUPPLY. Buy me a Benchmade 42. I'll give you a week. I spent YEARS trying to buy a knife I used to own.
#knifezoid, do you really think that I'd give up on Benchmade, the name that made me love the knife, so easily? What knife have you owned that came close? Benchmade closed their doors to me. I found a way to get close again. So here's the real deal: Benchmade is not making the 42 EVER again. People want to charge me imaginary prices for a knife I owned. Will I pay super--reasonable prices for a near-match, after spending countless dollars buying shitty knives? YEAH. FUCK YEAH.
Benchmade 42 handles are made of cast titanium and total weight of 4.1 oz(116.2 gm).
Titanium is non magnetic, weighs around 40% less than steel. (geek specs: specific gravity Ti 4.5 gm/cc vs Fe 7.8 gm/cc) In other words the stainless steel fake will weigh more. Since the genuine handles are cast no milling marks, should you see milling marks around the holes then request a lower fake price. The color of Titanium tends to be darker grey vs the silvery bright stainless steel. You can see the subtle color difference at 7:01. Also the stainless steel fakes will be thinner to reduce weight. Hope this helps.
I noticed the number 42 indicating the model under the butterfly logo on the real 42 is smaller font and further away from the butterfly image, somethings VERY consistent from the fake to, all the fakes I have seen so far has larger closer numbers...
for me, the fake one was the best option, i live in Brazil and here an BM 42 cost aprox. R$1400 and i dont want and dont have this money to spent on a Knive.
The main differences that I could see that weren't mentioned were: The tang pin on the real 42 looked smaller and neater, it seemed quite large in comparison on the fake. Also the grooves in the kicker of the fake were much deeper and more pronounced than in the real one. Lastly, the number 42 itself on the blade was much smaller, neater, and further from the logo on the real deal.
With that being said, unfortunately, the 42 has been discontinued. This means that small changes to the design to throw off counterfeits will no longer occur and replicas will get even harder to distinguish as their design improves.
I agree with alot of what you say however consider the following 1# chinese consider it to be an honor to be able to copy high quality items 2# its not hurting benchmade because benchmade stopped making the BM42 and they have stated they have no plans to make it again. so where there is a demand there is a market.
It took you roughly 5 minutes to actually get into the comparison.
10/10 would waste 5 minutes of my life listening to some guy babble on about creativity again.
You'll never get those 5 minutes back. They are forever mine.
@@knifezoid You are truly evil...
You know when you're bored when you watch butterfly knife videos
Not when u have one ordered and can't wait 3-4days for it
lmfao so true
+Maysey lol I'm in the same sit except mine is a come because they are illegal in Australia 😭😭
Yeah its so fucking boring here in Australia. (No Sarcasm)
So you're breaking the law and should be fined.
If they're such a perfect imitation then what purpose does it serve to buy the real one besides being self righteous?
theyre made out of cheap metal like he says in the video after a couple weeks theyll fall apart and usually the screws strip easily you would be buying a saftey hazard, just bad shit waiting to happen
idiot...
what i did was i took out the screws and out actual rivits, 3 years and its still going strong :P
Very good they are identical it's just people are retarded and think that the more expensive version is better for absolutely no reason.
Benchmade has to make money to make more knives
If I want a good balisong, is a 99€ fake one okay, or will it fall apart? Just by looking at it, it seems well built.
I just bought a t4 titanium bm42 fake. Still waiting on it, but I would like to say its stupid to be so anti-fake knives. People want the bm42, and benchmade could make them, but they don't. Instead they make shitty, heavy, overpriced new stainless steel models, that don't even have a spring latch. The fakes are SO similar. They flip almost identically, and are a tenth of the price. Fuck benchmade, (but fuck exiled cuterly too). I have no problem with the chinese fakes, and I don't think most people that want a good flipper for a good price do either.
Benchmade are amazing knives. You should give them respect.
where'd you get your fake? eBay?
+biteme I got mine off DhGate. flipped it as my main until I got my replicant, but when I did it was Hella nice.. came shaper then the REP... as in literally hair popping razor sharp. I loctited mine, tolerances were tight, flipped amazing, well worth the 80 I spent on it. love the sound of the Ti too. still flip it almost every day, not a single issue with it
Right on , I couldn't agree more.
overrated is benchmade.
I am VERY new to balisongs/butterfly knives and I don't know much about them, however I enjoyed this video and found it very informative. Thank you.
lol yeah...Ill take the heat
@MJ lol
Same
Who are you 👽
You are right, they are very close in those regards. The fake is steel, but still flips fine. To me it's more of a moral issue. But to each their own.
@Benjamin Huffman My videos usually require at least an attention span of 5 minutes. I know it's a lot to ask.
BTW, you can fast forward youtube videos. Just FYI.
Well then bench made should star making the 42 again and people wont have to purposefully buy working 10 dollar fakes cause the real ones are still 400
Yeah Nike should lower the price on Jordans to $20 so people don't have to buy fakes. Yeah...
+knifezoid I see in the video that fake balisong doesn't open fully and it hasnt got the logo on the knife.
***** I dont play that much
+knifezoid where did you buy your real Benchmade 42?
2015 update: Now they even actually come in titanium.
+Sun Praiser Yes. To avoid AIDS.
+Sun Praiser To each their own, but I still don't support it.
***** The Benchmade 42 is not a $500 knife, it's a $170 knife that costs $500. I would never ever pay MORE than the retail price for a knife. That's why I'll never have a 42. I'd buy another 62 or 51, or an Alpha Beast or Replicant, or any other high quality balisong.
link please?
westsenkovec www.dhgate.com/store/product/the-one-bm42-butterfly-knife-balisong-knife/200974249.html
The tang pin is usually the biggest give away.
The fake might be heavier since it's steel and not ti. Though they are sandwich and thinner to help compensate the heavy weight
does it really matter if you get a real or fake practice balisong
yes, because if you get a fake, the 'blade's' bolts aren't very strong and they can break making the 'blade' fly off mid spin
You're fine, get the cheap fake one, save your money. Most damages you can fix yourself, and if it breaks completely, just buy another one for 20 bucks... You can get 50 fake ones that would be good enough for a lifetime before you could ever get a real one.
Unknown I'd always trust a pig over the sinister, letter E.
A practice one absolutely not but if your getting one to show off and become skilled at it then yes it does matter
Just watched your video and I can honestly say it helped. I work in a weapon shop and we deal with a lot of knives daily. we had have plenty knockoffs go through our store it happens. But the one seriously bad thing is we got a shipment of balisongs in I took it out of the box checked it over nothing looked off. went to flip it open and the handle I held snapped and sent the blade straight into my leg. can't tell you how upset I was.
you do know that you are pointing out all of the things for the fake balisong manufacturers to improve in their fakes by making this video. xD
I doubt they need the video bro.
Completly agree with your opinion on originality and theft of others ideas.
I think fake is ok as long as you don't sell them as real
Reasonable.
I agree. The only thing that bothers me is the fake logo.
The new Ken Fong ones have real titanium handles and have changed the logo. They keep the butterfly but the new logo has a different name (Theone).
@@MegaBrokenstar Just bought one with that logo. Steel handles but no machine marks like the video had. Paid $45 and am happy with it. 😀👍
You asked about our experience with fakes, so here is mine. I'm from Krakow in Poland. It's touristic town and in the down-town I know the shop, that sells balisongs, shurikens, bongos and all kind of crazy stuff, of course as souvenirs and NOT as tools for doing "not-good" stuff. Half of butterflies there are fake Benchmade's. I don't know, how it is with you, but when I am holding a fake, I can just feel, that it's about to fall apart when I'll first use it. Also, the blade part of fake one is often moulded and grinded, not forged. However, these two are indeed really similar, as you said
just remember homie no everybody can afford to buy a real buttlerfly knife...
You don't have 80 bucks? 80 bucks buys you a Kimura. That's quite real. Homie.
im not talkin about me ese im talkin about poor ppl
pliners1 A Flick balisong (www.bladeplay.com/item--Silver-Flick-Butterfly-Knife-Drop--12813) is only 15 dollars but its a great beginners knife but the handles are a bit weak they won't break on ticks but I don't recommend throwing them (personal experiences).
knifezoid In my country 80 bucks is a shitload.fuck you too portugal
Kimura's are ugly tho, dawg!
We had our back and forth almost a year ago. I still have 1 real Benchmade 42 and 2 fake 42s. I still stand by the 42, and I am a big supporter, but I still use the fake as my practice knife, and seriously, I don't find anything wrong with it. After a year, it still holds up as a good knife. Much better than what you'd buy in an Army surplus store. The fakes are both ALL steel, and not stainless, so don't put them in the dishwasher, otherwise, the fakes feel and work almost the same, after a year of use. The latch is threaded and adjustable, and it takes the same Torx tools to adjust and fix.
Frankly, I agree that your review was sound, in that, you shouldn't get scammed. If you do find yourself paying for the real deal, and end up with a cheap knock-off, you should scream to the hills. However, some knockoffs are fine knives for 1/8 of the cost. Get those. Practice diligently and then decide to buy the real deal.
lmao I got one more video on the FU42 coming...a viewer sent me one of the originals which proves some things that were hidden on newer versions, let the drama begin once again, whatever right, its info, info is good...
I recognize that knife. In fact, If I'm not mistaken I sold it to you way back in the day. I'm glad you're still enjoying it man.
-Cody Mertens (Linett)
Hey man, where you been?! Haha, yes I remember buying from you. You still flip? Get on the Jerzeedevil and Balisong Technique if you're not already there man. Good to hear from you. She is still running strong.
I don't flip nearly as much as I used to. I'm doing the college thing now. Every now and again I wonder through the forums and miss it though.
My mom ordered a bench made ballisong for me for Christmas, I was real happy til she started worrying because it wasn't showing up,creep in mind she ordered it on thanksgiving and it still didn't show up, we check her email and it says it's on a boat from China.... I asked her where she ordered it from and she said EBay.... I feel so bad because she payed full price for a bench made and it's a fucking cheap piece of shit. I just hope it doesn't break the day I get it.
Ah that sucks. And another reason why I don't support fakes
Well what happened?
TheMysteriousDumbaz1 is everything ok
You got it yet
@@adi-lk1zm oh yea. Thing was pretty good at first. But after like a day the entire handle broke. Rip
real quick, just for people who don't know and are here for learning purposes. the Benchmade 42 is actually cast, not milled. thats how they get a solid handle and are able to have the smaller holes along it, whereas the fake is drilled and why they hit the back of the divet. just a quick fact for you guys, and again it is CAST, NOT MILLED from a billet like the majority will say.
Many of the things you're pointing out are only seeable if you have both a real and a fake side by side, which doesn't really happen in the real world.
In reality, you won't have anything to compare the fake to.
If the fakes can be made at a fraction of the price and still be profitable, it goes to show that Benchmade have marked up the sale price enormously.
i buy chinese fake now !!!
Why doesnt dhgate sell anymore butterfly knives?
Just ordered a fake one and cannot wait to get it
clones would not be so prevelent if the origonals cost wasent so outrageous. There is not any where near 400$ worth of materals and machine work in those knives. Now if they were made out of aircraft grade Ti with a Titanium nitride coated blade or somthing similar it would be a different story.
And if benchmade still even made the 42.
Shabbernigdo Xingjian but they make them in the U.S which really jacks up prices due to our much higher wAges
nsquezada27 true but even still the price on them seems outrageous unless they are all hand made.
not really when you think about how expensive the metals are and then the process that goes into making them all handmade or not they all have to be absolutley perfect and then of course a big company like that has a lot of overhead they need to pay off so its worth it. plus the markup on retail thing can be up to 75 percent so they are actually profiting not just breaking even. and the stores need to make money to
nsquezada27 thats the thing tho the metals are not that expencive they can be found in plenty of other quality knives of much lower cost. The machine work isint that complex infact its fairly basic. i realize that the company needs to make a proffit but unless they only are making a few hundred of these knives and have to recoup all of the tooling costs and such they shouldent be 300 / 400 dollar knives.
If others are copying you it means you became excellent in what you doing. Even copies of BM42 are excellent.
I wonder which is the fake one he never even says in the video
Left
it was a joke
Honestly I see what you mean and I get your point about ripping a product off. Some people may not have a budget to purchase an original knife (even the non discontinued models) for $300+ but want to have a cool looking/feeling knife. The design rip-off is ok for me as long as they don't steal the logo and claim to be them
+Liberal Gaming - Casually Hardcore Not for me but probably cause I"m a designer myself.
Ye I understand, honestly though, I prefer balisongs like you showcased for Palethius much more than ones from benchmade. Sadly for me I live in the UK where it is illegal to import balisong knives so I'm gonna have to either get a training one or a comb =(
After checking many websites i found:
Fake: 10$
Real: 50$-100$
Well I ain't gonna spend 5 times the price.
what 50$?
where is it for 50 bucks lol. i cant even find 1 for 800 bucks.
Hahahahhhahahhahahaha $100 your funny more like $400 - $600
the true's one cost around 250$, and the fake one costs 25$ in DhGate... its your decision xd
javi pulpillo I found one for 470 couple months ago, bought it love it :)
its a good reference video for the makers of the fake knives...
Ehh good video but to be honest, it is about the money issue with em, a few hundred for a benchmade is complete bullshit to me, yeah nice knife but a few hundred bucks FOR A KNIFE? thats a bit much for me tbh, i do have a fake one, its cool and close to the real deal, cause i cant afford a nice real one at the moment, also forget the money, like me we have to buy fake ones cause in the UK theyre illegal other than the trainer, and i dont fancy buying the trainer benchmade for 280dollars
You're paying for the material it's s made of, the manufacturers, the time put into the knife, and the shipping/handling for the delivery, as well as the process itself. Knives are expensive tools. If you buy one, respect it. I could save your life.
if I could buy something that would last me for an amount of time I would. seriously. but I cant so Im limited to rip offs. theyre ok. :s
Shadrik Easton He said it's machined from titanium. Assuming that's true, it should last longer than you.
***** The 42 is molded titanium. If I said machined I was wrong.
If anything, this video just encouraged me to go with the fake. If you say I'm not gonna know the difference, then that's an extra ~$300 in my pocket.
god damn Chinese > _
I just bought a fake one for 11 dollars. Had no idea of the original price though. Also, I didn't know Benchmade was an actual company. The model name is A316 and I don't know if I should feel bad for spending 38 dollars in total for 3 fake knives.
People support local inustries. This industries keep the jobs in you country and keep your economy running! Imagine everything you buy comes from china, what do you think will happen to your community of unemployed people?
Yeah support local industry by buying a dicontinued knife ?
Noox38
It was more like general speaking.
I know and i was kind of asking you a question about what should we do now ?
Noox38
In my opinion we should support our local industries as good as possible.
Melder92
Okay you don't listen, we can't if we want a 42 we can't have it so basically we're gonna buy it some where we can still got one no matter where it's from neither how it's made
If you want a decent balisong on the cheap, just get a fake bm42. I got my fake back in high school in 2010. It’s still alive and kicking.
Cut the crap and get into the knife. Omfg
Ikr
Thank you for the video. I'm very late to the game. This video was very informative. I'm a noob and heard that there are many fakes out. This'll make me weary of purchasing any secondhand knives.
u talk to much
Millenials...
Talking a lot in a video meant to inform people?
You don't say
Talk leeeesss
Logan Heath Listen more.
How does that have anything to do with being a millennial? He wasn't necessarily wrong, you kinda did ramble a little in the beginning. Also, some people can't afford to pay over 500 dollars for the real thing, despite having jobs. Some people need to pay bills, or pay rent. That's the reason a lot of people buy fakes.
Why did BenchMade discontinue the original?
Lots of theories but no solid answer. The most common one I heard is the mold and Tooling for the handles was running towards the end of life and they decided not to redo them. Manufacturering Tooling is very expensive.
the fake one was alot brighter, too
so if the chinese can make these almost 1 to 1 copies for $20 why should people pay 15x the amount for the original....
If you're willing to pay 450 for a knife, you deserve to get ripped off.
Xd, ikr
This is a hobby for some people and even a job who are you to judge whether or not someone buy one of the best made knives in the world?
Wow, that was a great impression of a stupid person you did there
i got my first butterfly knife about 4 years ago when i was still in taiwan, got it for about 10 bucks. i believe it was made in china, only works for about 2 months. actually after about a week it had some very serious rattle problems and finish came off super fast. but that knife got me into the whole knife world. oh, and the lock on it did not work at all.
The people commenting in support of clones don't seem to understand what it's like to have something they created stolen.
Likely because those same people have never created something worth stealing in their life.
(EDIT): The one question I have for people who support clones is, why does it need to be a near EXACT copy of the original? It's not like there is an end all be all perfect design so what is the point of making a clone other than to make a quick buck off of an already popular design?
50 Blades of Grey truth
50 Blades of Grey probably to tell the original maker to fuck off and stop selling overpriced shit
bountY lol if that's what you think of the original maker why would would you even want something that resembles their product in the first place?
So butterfly knives originated in the USA? Or were they copied from the Phillipines? :)
Tim Bain that I couldn't answer, there's some speculation that the balisong was only popularized in the Philippines but was actually invented in France
That's true, but some people polish up their ti 42s which can give it the same appearance.
Is a fake 42 better then no 42
No.
I just want a Benchmade Balisong, dont matters if are real or fake, i just want one man!
OK, thanks for the review first by all means.
Got some facts and have to find a way to solve:
1 - the BM42 is not longer available
2 - US do not ship such item to my place even if they are available
3 - I want one
So in order to have this knife for collection or whatever, there is only one place to go.
I dunno, mine is really worn and is real and the handles get really close.
I don't really think it's my place to judge a person based off if they buy a knock off or not. I know people have strong opinions on it, but I won't make a personal attack on someone cause they do it. However, I advise people against it cause I do feel it supports the wrong side.
I m not a very smart person, nor do I have any knowledge on knives what so ever. I was just interested in the video cause I saw a balisong in a movie and wanted to know more about it. Just passing a dumb question, would it be possible to tell apart a fake one from a real one by the magnetic properties of the metal used? (one being titanium and the other being cheaper mild steel as said in the video) Again just a dumb question, go easy on me guys.
jilles de lange they have a question don't answer if you don't have an answer.
NotSoBrown "Again just a dumb question, go easy on me guys."
I went easy on him. HEHE :D
I'm not to into knives either but i think that would be an interesting way to find out
I think the best way to prevent this kind of stuff is to order right off the manufacture website, or from some of the official distributors listed by the manufacture.
i didnt really know about this problem but if the two are so similar... why does it matter?
Is the only problem getting mis-priced?
basically a real BM 42 is about 400$, while a fake is anywhere from 30$ to full price. The real ones are very good quality, just about the best balisong you can get. The fake ones look nearly identical, but I guess they can have a lot worse quality.
Another noticeable difference between the real and fake is that titanium has a darker tone to the metal when polished. stainless steel is lighter. if u have a titanium ring or bracelet u can use that as a reference
I love how you said "the real one is thicker, it has a little more meat" lol
What's the purpose of a butterfly knife? I personally could never figure it out.
Its just to show off how much of a badass you are
+rusza j That actually makes sense. So it's just Bruce Lee shit. Waste of titanium in my opinion.
Buck Shot basically
Concealment.
It's like a normal nice, but it's also cool, and really fun to do tricks with.
Is the fake bad for flipping?
If you did not have enough money for a 42 (second hand) would you get the clone?
Hey brother, just got into butterfly knives. Gonna get one from BladePlay, are they a good company to get knives from?
Yeah they are a sister company of BladeHQ
+knifezoid Alright good to hear, thanks for the quick reply mate.
How was the purchase? Seen their site but don't know if they are legit.
+WeeJamonP2 Ended up just buying from BladeHQ, their prices are the same anyways, bought a Remington Tanto.
+Riley French nice! thanks for letting me know
i ordered a benchmade 62 im worried it might be a fake got it from blade hq is that good plz tell me!!!!!
BladeHQ is as legit as it gets
+Edwin Castorena its legit
This comment might be a bit late, but did you ever consider that benchmade doesn't produce 42's anymore? It wont hurt their business. Not to mention even if I had the money for a 42, where would I find one to buy?
Forums are the best way. Buying used. They do show up from time to time.
I am usually happy to find a fake 42. They are literally the exact same imo, and are maybe a sixth of the price~!
I bought a fake 42T off of eBay a few years back. Thankfully it was only $20.
I bought it for $8 :D
u cant get it for 8 dollars, u can get a sandwich constructiun and its shit
It's safe if you got fake because it is not sharp so you don't get hurt or scar in hand right?
the 42 is out of production right? is any way of getting one still?
Is there a really good balisongs like the Benchmade ones, but for training? Thnx.
Honestly you can always just buy a real one and put masking tape over the blade when practicing
will the screws loosen on the fake becouse im ordering it today
Can confirm- after ~2 months of flipping the fake balisong I've had no issues. $20 well spent.
so benchmade is good right?
where did u get the fake one and where did you get the real one
I honestly think if the people making the fake replicas would just come up with their own design and logo, the knives would be more respected. I bought one from dhgate, and it flips pretty well actually.
I don't understand. If these are so similar, who cares if you bought a fake? It's practically still the same thing, right?
Mines polished... although after a while the ti oxidises and it loses some of the initial shine.
Can we have a link to a real one?
So the right one is fake?
i was thinking about buying a fake benchmade cuz i never heard of someone breaking a fake 42 and i really wanted to know if the qwality of the fake one is good
where did you get it ? the fake one ?
Weight usually will be different. Fakes are usually heavier due to cheap materials being hevier.
Are those 42's double bladed? Looking to purchase one and I only want one that single sided so that I can do tricks.
It has what's called a swedge. Looks like an edge, but it is dull.
Videos of an Average Gamer Yeah, it isn't sharp, but I'm pretty sure you can sharpen it if you want
wait, which one is fake?
So what if I bought a copy of a 42 is it metal or is just the cheap kind of stuff
The damage are the same ?