That's something I've thought about a lot. I would've like to see Anakin become a grey Jedi. He knew the light side, then learned the dark, then he should learn how to control both. Makes sense to me.
That's why that bird is always following her around. The Mori (the bird's name) is either literally the Daughter, or is an extension of her will. I wouldn't say she is the embodiment of the light side, but she carries a part of the Daughter with her forever, and that makes her super powerful.
Easy to get away with it when there is zero chance of your emotions going dark. It's different for everyone else who have to.fight off temptation. All the Daughter has to do is sip the Light side Koolaid.
Ezra didn’t name morai either did he? She specifically follows ahsoka because ahsoka has part of the daughter with her forever after she used her life to bring ahsoka back. Also, ahsoka didnt “originally die” that’s not how time works, Ezra always saved her....and we literally saw her walking out of the temple at the end of that same episode she fought Vader. She was never even assumed dead. SWT hadn’t even watched rebels at this time
writing a good female character is like painting a portrait not everyone can do it and most people these days just prefer to copy off someone else's artwork and make it in a way that only satisfies you
@@michaelguth4007 it' s because the "standard male" isn' t demonized by anydoby, while the "classic female" is seen as anti-feminist, or some sort of insult. This leads to hot headed macho-men and poorly written trans women. Obviously the images are exagerated,a as both are signs of sheer bad writing, ehich is rare on such a level, but I did it for the sake of being clear :)
@@mckenziecalhoun316 It is even worse, because it doesn't matter how you write a female character. Someone will complain. If it is "classic", you named it. If it is not "classic", someone will come along and shout SJW-bs. It's like a female character is not allowed to stand for itself (it, because fictional), but always tied to an agenda for the gender.
@@michaelguth4007 imo it' s just thst there are the extreme feminists that will hate a classic female character, and normal people who will find the other extreme totally unrelatable...
Ninjaman712 no because anikan at his prime is the chosen one the strongest for user to exist these were just gods powerful but anikan at his full potential would destroy them
What if Ahsoka Tano formed a strong connection with the Daughter of the cosmic force after leaving Mortis? What if they had a force dyad unlike anything Sidious or any Sith has ever felt?
Keandre Green well no in what is and was Lucasfilms canon Luke was one of the strongest force users even with old age his ability to use the force was strong. He was not a sad old man who died from stopping his whiny bitching pathetic nephew from killing the Resistance leaders and also “training a Mary Sue”
I’ve been wondering, during their confrontation with Palpatine, was Ahsoka using a minor Force shield to deflect those blue flames or a low-level application of Tutaminis?
I'M simply loving these videos featuring Father/Son/Daughter.... I loved every part of the Mortis story! BEST part for me in Clone Wars and truly made me respect the wider spectrum of the force in Star Wars massively! ! 💙 O.O.K 👌😉
I said it before and I say it again: At the end of Season 2, we saw Ahsoka go through the same triangular doorway she would look at after returning to Malachor after being saved by Ezra. In-universe, her fate was NOT altered (I will NOT discuss whether or not the crew planned this all along as it is irrelevant to this. I'm speaking purly on an in-universe-level here). Everything played out EXACTLY as the Force wanted it to. Besides, it's been three years and we haven't seen that place pop up once (as far as I remember). I'm pretty sure you can only get it if the Force wants it and only do so much as the Force allows it. So the whole thing really ain't that big of a deal...
I agree. I think that this time travel can't alter the past or it can make the past happen the way you always knew it happened. It works the same way as in Harry Potter or the first Terminator.
Yeah and also, “Dume” told Ezra to “restore past, redeem future” which could be hinting at the force urging him to save Ahsoka, her “past” needs to be restored since she will appear in the future
@@Brick_One_A_Lego_Story terminator is the worst example you could bring up for what you’re saying lmao...there’s a million timelines and half of the story now never happened and it’s ridiculous.but yes. That’s actually what physicists believe. If you were to travel back in time. You can change anything, you always did arrive at that point in time, and your actions set in course the same future that you already knew. If you understand determinism it’s easy to wrap your head around which you seem to. But it can be pretty tricky for people to understand. The past the present at the future are all always happening at the “same time” it all just exists. If you travel in time, you always did, always are, and always will travel to that time.
One thing I've been rather curious about: The Father noted that a hypothetical excess of the light side of the force could lead to ruin. The SW series has given us boatloads of examples of how the force is unbalanced by an excess of the dark side, but we never really see the opposite scenario play out. How even would there be an excess of the light side of the force? Also, what would be the consequences of having the force unbalanced by excess light side?
Id like to see the idea of an excess of the light side corroding space and time, for example, the force could sense that it was unbalanced and in an effort to retune itself, it could start to return the black holes of the maw to their original positions, releasing Abeloth in the process. Or, maybe something along the lines of Jedi beginning to lose their connections too the force. Causing the Sith grow more powerful as the force attempts to rebalance itself. Either way it would be awesome to see the force represented as some kind of consciousness trying to rebalance itself and avert ruin, but unknowingly causing ruin in the process.
I’m ok with the time travel/world between worlds/dimensions/realities (legends happened then)... as long as they keep it mystical and don’t try to science the sh1t out of it 🖖
It would be a cool "What If" video to do on the Son successfully escaping Mortis and what he would do in the Galaxy, his interactions with the Jedi/Sidious, and how he would change the outcomes of the Star Wars timeline!
Do you think that by giving the Ashoka the daughter’s force energy it would have given her an unnatural lifespan? like the Tom Hanks Green Mile character.
Yea I would very much like to see more on The Ones! Also I feel that they are, if not thr same as those that Yoda talked with, than they are of equal caliber. Thanks for all that you bring to us through your channel! May the Force be with you!
Just watched rebels for the first time and also re watching Mando before season 3. After The Jedi episode in s2 i knew there was more too it, found Theories Breakdown of the episode which then lead me here. Thanks SWT for these awesome videos, i new i had to look deeper into this after i just watched Ezra & the painting of Daughter/family in rebels... not really ever thinking it had already been in Mando episode.
Since you are talking about The ones or the Celestial you should do one on Abaloth and her connection to them even though she is on Legends she explains a lot about them and honestly that Fate of the Jedi series is my absolute favorite of all Star wars
I have to admit that the possibility of altering time continuity that was introduced in rebels (although i hope it will not be repeated again as the portal was closed at the temple) is very disturbing. The existence of such possibility just adds a ton of what if scenarios (like imagine if one could save Qui-Gone from dying, just like Ezra saved Ashoka), that ultimately renders the gravity of such events somehow obsolete.
That’s what I’m thinking as well. Time travel is always such an easy way to retcon everything (like X-men). New force powers did show up every now and then but time travel would just be overpowered.
I don't think that it's possible to save Qui Gon because I feel like these portals work like the time travel in Harry Potter where everything that has been changed was already part of the original timeline.
I guess Qui gon' s disappearence rather than death would have changed the timeline, thus making it wrong to save him, like it would have been to ave Kanen
Morai never guarded ezra tho, she only ever appeared when ahsoka was near and who named her morai was ahsoka, not ezra. Ahsoka also never really "originaly died" on malachor, we can see her limping and entering the temple by the end of season 2, followed by morai, she was always going to be saved
ik i'm late, but something cool i noticed while rewatching rebels was that while mori was flying down to go to ahsoka, the voices in the background say "I am the daughter" hinting more towards that fact that mori is the embodiment of the daughter
Time travel in star wars is important and what is fascinating is that it is a topic not touched to often. I think will go good, over all with the star wars universe
The bird's name is "Morai"...like _Moirai_ , as in The Fates of Greek myth? The Fates are three: one that spins the thread of life for all mortals, one that draws its measure for each person, and one that cuts it at the end of their life. Hmm...I wonder where we've seen a trio representing life, death, and everything in between before?
I just noticed an interesting connection, The Grand Inquisitor looks like the Son, Vader was supposed to replace the Father and the Daughter gave her life force to Ahsoka. They became the next generation of the ones?!?
I try not to think of what Exra did as time travel. as far as anyone knows Ahsoka was always meant to fall through the portal and be rescued by him and her supposed death would just be a matter of "Well, I never saw the body, but..." They both go their separate ways back to their own time, they never set foot in a time they were never meant to be in. So not time travel, manipulation of a timeless dimension, maybe but that's all.
The Light Side and Dark Side exists in everyone. She would be really powerful since her Force power level and Living Force power level are so high up. Her two Force energy levels would have to be 50,000 or 60,000. That's around the same as Dark Pleg the wise. She would know how to reincarnate herself and how to become a Force Ghost or how to save herself from dying and how to bring someone back to life. So yes. She likely is that bird.
Hope Dave Filoni will make this official, that the daughters power is inside ahsoka protecting her and keeping her safe and alive, that’s why morai the owl looks after and watches over ahsoka, and the power keeps ahsoka from dying and slows her aging down too or stop her aging when she reached 35 or 40 years old so she could still look the same as she did after the end of rebels and have quick healing too and she can continue what she loves doing, helping and protecting innocent lives and her family and her surviving Jedi friends who are also her family. The remaining life of the daughter can sense all the goodness in ahsoka and sees her one of the ones that deserves to live and continue to help others and be the light to protect everybody including her family
My theory is that the daughters light was like a vaccine and the darkside was the virus murdering ahsokas spirit after the daughter soul destroyed the darkside in her, ahsoka and the daughter then connect basically the daughter (mori) doing things to keep ahsoka alive, the daughter also enhanced ahsoka force abilities and all that, so like a vaccine sticking around for ahsokas safty.
Funny how The daughter is the pure embodiment of the light side brought back Ahsoka from death. Then there is Palpatine lying to Anakin saying only the darkside can do that. If only Anakin remembered
I like time travel, hopefully it makes writers have some guts to write many non canon storylines for games, tv shows and comics etc for fun like a timeline where Fives saves the entire clone army from themselves and the Jedi permanently ending order 66 while also giving rise to a very large rebellion that is evil instead of good this time.
@@odette5031 he hadn’t actually watched rebels at the time of making this video. Ezra didn’t name morai either. I don’t know why he thought that....he also said ahsoka “originally died” ...that’s not how time travel works. Ezra always saved her....we literally saw ahsoka walk out of the temple in the same episode that she fought Vader...we just didn’t know how she escaped. He literally hadn’t watched rebels.....Im sure he knows now that he’s watched rebels...at this time he was going of things he read and RUclips recaps of episodes
Can't remember where i heard it but the force is split into the physical force which is influenced by emotions, time and all that Then there is the cosmic force which has no time and isn't infused by emotions The concept of a force ghost is about someone who has managed to retain some semblance of self in the selfless cosmic force and the manifesting as a ghost is that remains of self going from the cosmic force to the physical force According to a book from Qui Gon Jinn's perspective manifesting is both painful and disorienting because until you manifest you don't remember yourself Again no idea where i heard this or what book it is
Awesome video man! I love the mortis Family! Have you done an in depth video about Abaloth and the connection between them? And the connections the Skywalker's seem to have with these beings?
Are there star wars characters that were brown robes and were masks because my friend thinks that Yoda is one of the but Im not entirely sure what who he was talking about I thought Josh was talking about the wills but he said not the wills but he didn't know what else but he forgeted it was he talking about the clossest thing I could think of was the wills or is there another star wars character like that
Personally I love all the different aspects of the force introduced in clone wars/rebels live the One's, the Lothe Wolves and the world between worlds. Hopefully we see more of that.
1. Ahsoka named the bird Morai not Ezra... 2. We dont know if Ahsoka ever died..from what we know now its safe to assume Ezra saves her in every scenario...We just weren't aware of it until seeing it happen in season 4. 3. It's not really time travel if you think about it. He simply pulled her into a dimension where time doesn't exist..and she goes back to almost the exact same spot..It's a closed time loop.
Star Wars handled it simply for the most part though. Having it so there is only one timeline that happens, and Ahsoka does live during all of season 3 and season 4, just we don't see it. She didn't die originally, and it makes sense. Also, the one known entrance, the one in the Lothal temple is gone, so there would be little to no more time travel, and that's honestly a good choice.
They handled it well...ahsoka never died. She was shown walking out of the temple in the end of that episode and we just didn’t know how she escaped, they later showed Ezra pulled her into the world between worlds. Time travel is bad when it creates all different timelines and erases past storyline’s and becomes granulated and hard to follow. There’s only one timeline, nothing changed....which goes along with what physicists believe about time today. In that you can’t alter it. The future has already “happened”. The past the present and the future are all always “happening at the same time” if you went into the past to change something, you always went into the past your actions might set up the future, but you always did those things. The timeline can’t change
I think that time travel can work in _Star Wars_ if it's handled very, very carefully. It's exceptionally easy to screw up time travel, because of how easy it is to create plot holes and paradoxes. Even series that are entirely based around time travel, like _Doctor Who_ don't always get everything right, so you have to be extremely careful when you introduce time travel into something.
The daughter used lighningbending move to reflect The son’s lightning back on him! Also.....as a darkness can have small piece of light, light can’t be without small piece of darkness.
The story with the ones is a little bit tricky I like it, it works and it also feels a little off. But the question is now that the Sister energy saved Ahsoka, does it mean Ahsoka got her powers, or part of them Did she get immortal or got longer lifespan. Do you need the mortis dagger to kill her. For me Ahsoka can be around forever
I think that when AHSOKA was revived she was revived by using the soul of daughter therefore making her identical to her so there might be some hidden feature or personality of the daughter laying dormant in AHSOKA which might make her more powerful and maybe the daughter would come back within her when the time comes
Well the Whills in canon appear to be just a mortal species who record events in the galaxy and only one known member- a Shaman was confirmed to know the secret to eternal consciousness but there's no indication yet if that particular Whill actually was a Force Spirit or not or ever actually became one. In Legends, we know even less, just that they had an Order of Shamans who according to Yoda knew the secret to eternal consciousness. That's literally it. Everything else known about them in Legends is just speculation in-universe by various characters. Point is the Whills in canon and Legends have no feats for fans to use in a who would win in a fight debate. The Ones in canon and Legends do. In canon, the Ones are the most powerful known Force Users to ever exist period. In Legends, they are Celestials, a species that created celestial-scale constructs, some of which were made to imprison Abeloth, a Force Entity whose only known equal was the Father. The Celestials were speculated in-universe to have merged with the Force eons ago and guide its will and flow. What feats we do have for the Ones in both canon and Legends puts them above the Whills in canon and legends right now thus the Ones would win in a fight by default.
Really enjoyed these 3 videos you did. I will revisit this story arc when Disney+ starts up. Love the clone wars series. I even still like the 2D animated one that is no longer canon. keep up great work.
I don't remember who said this, but Star Wars rhymes in it's story telling. The Son and Daughter (what remains of them) duelled again on Malachor. This lightens my feelings slightly as to how Ahsoka was saved. I'm glad she is alive, being my favourite character and all, but I was iffy on if time travel was the way to do it. Primarily because it felt at first like Ahsoka was a character the creators didn't want to let go; I wonder if keeping her alive was a little inorganic to the story, so to speak. Realizing now, about the Rhyme or Echo that I mentioned above, I hope there is an excellent payoff for keeping Ahsoka alive. I don't have hope for Disney's Lucasfilm, but I do for Dave Filoni. But that's a tale for another time...
Obi-Wan at the parents conference: So if your children are that powerful, how to you manage them? The Father with a cup of vodka: *I have to yeet them to the floor before they accidently kill the other* Obi-Wan, spitting out his tea: W H A T?
I know this is 2 years old but even though time travel is dangerous to tamper with especially in star wars, I was actually pleasantly surprised at how it was introduced, also I feel they won't tamper with it too much as it could quite literally wipe out previous stories for nothing, who knows there might be more to The World Between Worlds than just time travel?
Looking at certain patterns seen in the nature of the force. The dark side is manipulative, power seeking, and is driven by the various passions we have. The light side is passive, knowledge seeking, and is driven by reasoning and strict discipline. The balance, or the gray side, is neutral, controlled, and is driven to find a way to combine the two sides successfully. All sides though are capable of imperfection and letting their way in the force get the better of them. Star Wars seems like a tragedy, where the force is power, and that power corrupts. All force users will lose to it's will one way or another, and you die. A pattern shows to bring balance to the force, is to die. Anakin, the chosen one, brought balance to the force twice. Once with the death of the ones, but also with killing all Jedi then later the last of the sith to protect his son. The natural order of the universe is chaos, and life there to meet it. The various sides of the force is a way to bring control. But Death is the will of the force. To be one with the force is to die.
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Something I've always noticed is that the force wants to keep Ahsoka alive
Filoni is madman
@@goodmind4940 indeed
To be fair, I don’t want my favorite Star Wars character to die either.
@@MelonDoesStuff agreed
Dave Filoni protection
The daughter is light, the son is the darkness, the father is the order. But the mother... Is chaos incarnate
Abeloth?
@@GlennTheSadMarinersFan yep
@@GlennTheSadMarinersFan who?
Abeloth is non-canon to Clone Wars. The Ones are kinda different in legends and canon.
@TheCustomSWFigure i did not know this! Thanks.
I wish we got to see anakin as the chosen one more. Watching him do things no one else could was really cool and made him seem much more important.
@EmperorJuliusCaesar nah more like a Star Wars Multiverse, it would be the best thing ever.
That's something I've thought about a lot. I would've like to see Anakin become a grey Jedi. He knew the light side, then learned the dark, then he should learn how to control both. Makes sense to me.
U know Mortis means Death
Therefore:
Dagger of Death
Realm of Death
Take what u will from that
Nice picture of Commander Cody
@@timbartschwolfman thanks
Actually it means "of death" (it' s the genitive)
Necronomicon ex mortis
There is no death, there is the force.
The light side is a pathway to abilities many consider to be natural. "Is it possible to learn his powers?" You ask? Not from a Sith.
Did you ever hear of the tragedy of Anakin Skywalker?
bemotivated who?
@@bemotivated8443 Is it a Jedi legend?
@@yourstruly4817 he was so powerful he could even stop his loved ones......... from living
@@bemotivated8443 no...
So Ahsoka's the embodiment of the light side? Since the Daughter did revive her with her life force
A little bit
Showed up when she became Ahsoka the White
That's why that bird is always following her around. The Mori (the bird's name) is either literally the Daughter, or is an extension of her will. I wouldn't say she is the embodiment of the light side, but she carries a part of the Daughter with her forever, and that makes her super powerful.
@@Exonorm27 probably enhanced her for her abilities as long as she continues training and all that.
Ironic that daughter is very emotional, yet the Jedi try not to be.
Shows their mistake.
Easy to get away with it when there is zero chance of your emotions going dark. It's different for everyone else who have to.fight off temptation. All the Daughter has to do is sip the Light side Koolaid.
Shihoblade lightside koolaid is lemonade flavor
Yet the father wanted the son to abandon the dark side. He had hope. Perhaps they can change. The force acts in mysterious ways.
My freakin thought exactly
Well, Morai was exclusively following only Ahsoka around, whenever she has appeared Ahsoka has always been present, Ezra notes that in the episode.
Ezra didn’t name morai either did he? She specifically follows ahsoka because ahsoka has part of the daughter with her forever after she used her life to bring ahsoka back.
Also, ahsoka didnt “originally die” that’s not how time works, Ezra always saved her....and we literally saw her walking out of the temple at the end of that same episode she fought Vader. She was never even assumed dead. SWT hadn’t even watched rebels at this time
The son - Darkness
The Daughter- The Light
The Father- Balance
The Mother/ Abeloth - Destruction
The Father - Order
The Mother - Chaos
The way Filoni did time travel in Rebels was actually very interesting and I found like it worked well for Star Wars
Ezra didn’t call the bird Mori, it was Ahsoka.
The daughter was actually related to Danny Devito, hence why she was so powerful
vexelghost nah man shaggy wasn’t as strong as Danny Devito during that era, it’s canon in the Star Wars comics
Ayy, Panini, don't you be a meanie
Thought you wanted me to go up
Why you tryna keep me teeny? I
Nobody
The father:
Erase mii
writing a good female character is like painting a portrait
not everyone can do it and most people these days just prefer to copy off someone else's artwork and make it in a way that only satisfies you
Rey
It is hard to write good characters. It doesn't matter which gender. But the audience has a tendency to be more forgiving with male characters.
@@michaelguth4007 it' s because the "standard male" isn' t demonized by anydoby, while the "classic female" is seen as anti-feminist, or some sort of insult. This leads to hot headed macho-men and poorly written trans women.
Obviously the images are exagerated,a as both are signs of sheer bad writing, ehich is rare on such a level, but I did it for the sake of being clear :)
@@mckenziecalhoun316 It is even worse, because it doesn't matter how you write a female character. Someone will complain. If it is "classic", you named it. If it is not "classic", someone will come along and shout SJW-bs.
It's like a female character is not allowed to stand for itself (it, because fictional), but always tied to an agenda for the gender.
@@michaelguth4007 imo it' s just thst there are the extreme feminists that will hate a classic female character, and normal people who will find the other extreme totally unrelatable...
Imagine Father's powers years ago, one of the most powerful force users for sure
He would of been the second strongest after anikan or Luke if they reached there potential
@@prezzyvcurrymuncher surely he would be anakins equal?
Ninjaman712 no because anikan at his prime is the chosen one the strongest for user to exist these were just gods powerful but anikan at his full potential would destroy them
@@prezzyvcurrymuncher but what about abeloth
Ninjaman712 anikan would be stronger he is supposed to be the strongest force user ever
What if Ahsoka Tano formed a strong connection with the Daughter of the cosmic force after leaving Mortis? What if they had a force dyad unlike anything Sidious or any Sith has ever felt?
Ahsoka would become a bit special
The question is what does Ashoka become. Morai wanted her alive for a reason.
I think Ahsoka is becoming somewhat important for Star Wars
Cautious with time travel, we should be. Risk falling into cliche, we will. Tread carefully, we must.
Let events play on, we shall. Great consequences, we may face.
The ONLY reason why I like time travel in SW is so they can go back n fix what they did to Luke!!!
Indeed!
!!!!
There’s nothing wrong with Luke they have him actual character development and you man children need to stop bitching
Keandre Green well no in what is and was Lucasfilms canon Luke was one of the strongest force users even with old age his ability to use the force was strong. He was not a sad old man who died from stopping his whiny bitching pathetic nephew from killing the Resistance leaders and also “training a Mary Sue”
But there's nothing to fix....
I’ve been wondering, during their confrontation with Palpatine, was Ahsoka using a minor Force shield to deflect those blue flames or a low-level application of Tutaminis?
I think it was a force shield. I would say Tutaminis but that requires the user to channel the energy somewhere else. Could be wrong though.
Force shield / Force push, cuz Ezra easily did the same too, the lightning was more like fire
I think she did the same thing as Kanan did when the bomb went of and used a force shield
I'M simply loving these videos featuring Father/Son/Daughter.... I loved every part of the Mortis story! BEST part for me in Clone Wars and truly made me respect the wider spectrum of the force in Star Wars massively! ! 💙 O.O.K 👌😉
I said it before and I say it again:
At the end of Season 2, we saw Ahsoka go through the same triangular doorway she would look at after returning to Malachor after being saved by Ezra.
In-universe, her fate was NOT altered (I will NOT discuss whether or not the crew planned this all along as it is irrelevant to this. I'm speaking purly on an in-universe-level here).
Everything played out EXACTLY as the Force wanted it to.
Besides, it's been three years and we haven't seen that place pop up once (as far as I remember). I'm pretty sure you can only get it if the Force wants it and only do so much as the Force allows it. So the whole thing really ain't that big of a deal...
I agree. I think that this time travel can't alter the past or it can make the past happen the way you always knew it happened. It works the same way as in Harry Potter or the first Terminator.
Yeah and also, “Dume” told Ezra to “restore past, redeem future” which could be hinting at the force urging him to save Ahsoka, her “past” needs to be restored since she will appear in the future
@@Brick_One_A_Lego_Story terminator is the worst example you could bring up for what you’re saying lmao...there’s a million timelines and half of the story now never happened and it’s ridiculous.but yes. That’s actually what physicists believe. If you were to travel back in time. You can change anything, you always did arrive at that point in time, and your actions set in course the same future that you already knew.
If you understand determinism it’s easy to wrap your head around which you seem to. But it can be pretty tricky for people to understand. The past the present at the future are all always happening at the “same time” it all just exists. If you travel in time, you always did, always are, and always will travel to that time.
Could you do a video on Abeloth? Because in legends I'm pretty sure she become like the mother
Abeloth is the mother if i'm not mistaking
father: order
mother: chaos
daughter: light
son: dark
DO I SMELL ALABAMA?
@@redbepis4600 more like "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"
I loved these 3 videos and you definitely need to do a video on Abeloth "the Mother" @Star Wars Theory
One thing I've been rather curious about: The Father noted that a hypothetical excess of the light side of the force could lead to ruin. The SW series has given us boatloads of examples of how the force is unbalanced by an excess of the dark side, but we never really see the opposite scenario play out. How even would there be an excess of the light side of the force? Also, what would be the consequences of having the force unbalanced by excess light side?
Id like to see the idea of an excess of the light side corroding space and time, for example, the force could sense that it was unbalanced and in an effort to retune itself, it could start to return the black holes of the maw to their original positions, releasing Abeloth in the process.
Or, maybe something along the lines of Jedi beginning to lose their connections too the force. Causing the Sith grow more powerful as the force attempts to rebalance itself.
Either way it would be awesome to see the force represented as some kind of consciousness trying to rebalance itself and avert ruin, but unknowingly causing ruin in the process.
I’m ok with the time travel/world between worlds/dimensions/realities (legends happened then)... as long as they keep it mystical and don’t try to science the sh1t out of it 🖖
yep
There is all kinds of mysticism in sw for me time travel seems likely if the being is powerful enough. The mysticism is why I love sw!
It would be a cool "What If" video to do on the Son successfully escaping Mortis and what he would do in the Galaxy, his interactions with the Jedi/Sidious, and how he would change the outcomes of the Star Wars timeline!
GENERAL CANNOLI!!!.....
YOU ARE A SWEET ONE ...
I like this one
@@buildingaction5670 if what you have told me is true you will have gained my trust.
GENERAL RAVIOLI
@@talkingcontroller9396 if what you've told me is true you will have lost my trust.
Do you think that by giving the Ashoka the daughter’s force energy it would have given her an unnatural lifespan? like the Tom Hanks Green Mile character.
Yea I would very much like to see more on The Ones! Also I feel that they are, if not thr same as those that Yoda talked with, than they are of equal caliber. Thanks for all that you bring to us through your channel! May the Force be with you!
You should consider doing a “what if” scenario of The Son managing to leave Mortis. How would it have affected the normal time line?
Just watched rebels for the first time and also re watching Mando before season 3. After The Jedi episode in s2 i knew there was more too it, found Theories Breakdown of the episode which then lead me here. Thanks SWT for these awesome videos, i new i had to look deeper into this after i just watched Ezra & the painting of Daughter/family in rebels... not really ever thinking it had already been in Mando episode.
Since you are talking about The ones or the Celestial you should do one on Abaloth and her connection to them even though she is on Legends she explains a lot about them and honestly that Fate of the Jedi series is my absolute favorite of all Star wars
"Only the dagger of Mortis could kill one of the members of this family"
Anakin: My lightsaber says otherwise lads
That's cos "The Father" removed his powers
I have to admit that the possibility of altering time continuity that was introduced in rebels (although i hope it will not be repeated again as the portal was closed at the temple) is very disturbing. The existence of such possibility just adds a ton of what if scenarios (like imagine if one could save Qui-Gone from dying, just like Ezra saved Ashoka), that ultimately renders the gravity of such events somehow obsolete.
That’s what I’m thinking as well. Time travel is always such an easy way to retcon everything (like X-men).
New force powers did show up every now and then but time travel would just be overpowered.
I don't think that it's possible to save Qui Gon because I feel like these portals work like the time travel in Harry Potter where everything that has been changed was already part of the original timeline.
I guess Qui gon' s disappearence rather than death would have changed the timeline, thus making it wrong to save him, like it would have been to ave Kanen
Exactly. Someone could simply kill Palpatine as an infant and **poof** no more Star Wars Empire trilogy.
I think time travel and dimensional or realm travel belongs in all pop culture because it's a way to cross things over and crossovers are awesome.
Next SWT video: Darth Toos, pure embodiment of RUclips.
Id love all of this explored. It was one of my favorite episodes
Morai never guarded ezra tho, she only ever appeared when ahsoka was near and who named her morai was ahsoka, not ezra.
Ahsoka also never really "originaly died" on malachor, we can see her limping and entering the temple by the end of season 2, followed by morai, she was always going to be saved
ik i'm late, but something cool i noticed while rewatching rebels was that while mori was flying down to go to ahsoka, the voices in the background say "I am the daughter" hinting more towards that fact that mori is the embodiment of the daughter
0:13 That's a lot of "today" in one sentence.
I really want a Mortis gods origin movie or live action series
wow me too
Time travel in star wars is important and what is fascinating is that it is a topic not touched to often. I think will go good, over all with the star wars universe
Is ahsoka more than just an ordinary mortal? Some of the daughters essence was put in ahsoka to revive her right?
And make Her stronger
The bird's name is "Morai"...like _Moirai_ , as in The Fates of Greek myth?
The Fates are three: one that spins the thread of life for all mortals, one that draws its measure for each person, and one that cuts it at the end of their life.
Hmm...I wonder where we've seen a trio representing life, death, and everything in between before?
Good one, I tend to think of the Ones as the Trimurti.
The difference is that the daughter follows Ahsoka because she's literally what's right.
I just noticed an interesting connection, The Grand Inquisitor looks like the Son, Vader was supposed to replace the Father and the Daughter gave her life force to Ahsoka. They became the next generation of the ones?!?
@Charles Mallonee in this Case Was not Anakin he was a separated being from them
I try not to think of what Exra did as time travel. as far as anyone knows Ahsoka was always meant to fall through the portal and be rescued by him and her supposed death would just be a matter of "Well, I never saw the body, but..." They both go their separate ways back to their own time, they never set foot in a time they were never meant to be in. So not time travel, manipulation of a timeless dimension, maybe but that's all.
The Light Side and Dark Side exists in everyone. She would be really powerful since her Force power level and Living Force power level are so high up. Her two Force energy levels would have to be 50,000 or 60,000. That's around the same as Dark Pleg the wise. She would know how to reincarnate herself and how to become a Force Ghost or how to save herself from dying and how to bring someone back to life. So yes. She likely is that bird.
I love the Mortis family
Hope Dave Filoni will make this official, that the daughters power is inside ahsoka protecting her and keeping her safe and alive, that’s why morai the owl looks after and watches over ahsoka, and the power keeps ahsoka from dying and slows her aging down too or stop her aging when she reached 35 or 40 years old so she could still look the same as she did after the end of rebels and have quick healing too and she can continue what she loves doing, helping and protecting innocent lives and her family and her surviving Jedi friends who are also her family. The remaining life of the daughter can sense all the goodness in ahsoka and sees her one of the ones that deserves to live and continue to help others and be the light to protect everybody including her family
My theory is that the daughters light was like a vaccine and the darkside was the virus murdering ahsokas spirit after the daughter soul destroyed the darkside in her, ahsoka and the daughter then connect basically the daughter (mori) doing things to keep ahsoka alive, the daughter also enhanced ahsoka force abilities and all that, so like a vaccine sticking around for ahsokas safty.
Could you do a video (or a series of videos) on Abeloth the Mother?
'Tis a 50-50 for me. I don't like the idea of time travel in Star Wars, but at the same time, AHSOKA LIVES! LOL so it's hard to turn that down. ;)
Do what if Anakin believed fives about order 66 before his death
Time travel, as seen in "Rebels" works for me. It's different than the slingshot around the sun hackneyed premise STAR TREK uses.
Lea was meant to replace the daughter, and luke the son
Funny how The daughter is the pure embodiment of the light side brought back Ahsoka from death. Then there is Palpatine lying to Anakin saying only the darkside can do that. If only Anakin remembered
I like time travel, hopefully it makes writers have some guts to write many non canon storylines for games, tv shows and comics etc for fun like a timeline where Fives saves the entire clone army from themselves and the Jedi permanently ending order 66 while also giving rise to a very large rebellion that is evil instead of good this time.
Wasn’t “The Daughter” with Ashoka during Rebels? Correct me if I’m wrong.
You’re right, don’t know how he saw a connection to Ezra, since she only appeared when Ahsoka was present.
@@odette5031 Was Morai just waiting for Ezra to fulfill the "prophecy" of saving Ashoka?
@@odette5031 he hadn’t actually watched rebels at the time of making this video. Ezra didn’t name morai either. I don’t know why he thought that....he also said ahsoka “originally died” ...that’s not how time travel works. Ezra always saved her....we literally saw ahsoka walk out of the temple in the same episode that she fought Vader...we just didn’t know how she escaped. He literally hadn’t watched rebels.....Im sure he knows now that he’s watched rebels...at this time he was going of things he read and RUclips recaps of episodes
Thank you for this. Like you suggested in the video about the son, I would love to see a video about the mother. You're awesome sir.
Why hasn't Funko made a Morai POP! vinyl bobblehead? They made Porgs, so they could definitely make Morai.
Can't remember where i heard it but the force is split into the physical force which is influenced by emotions, time and all that
Then there is the cosmic force which has no time and isn't infused by emotions
The concept of a force ghost is about someone who has managed to retain some semblance of self in the selfless cosmic force and the manifesting as a ghost is that remains of self going from the cosmic force to the physical force
According to a book from Qui Gon Jinn's perspective manifesting is both painful and disorienting because until you manifest you don't remember yourself
Again no idea where i heard this or what book it is
Man love The Mortis ark Thanks for cover all these 3🔥🐉👊👍
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U do this every video 😂
One of my favorite video of all your work.
Been looking forward to this one due to how little there is usually said of the daughter.
Could you do a theory video on what would happen if the daughter escaped Mortis
Wished I had watched Rebels 3 and 4 recently but it was a nice incentive.
Great vid again.
This is Outrageous!!!!!!!
Awesome video man! I love the mortis Family! Have you done an in depth video about Abaloth and the connection between them? And the connections the Skywalker's seem to have with these beings?
Star Wars Theory:
The dagger of mortis is the only weapon that can kill a member of the mortis family
Anakin’s lightsaber: Am I A JoKe To YoU
That only works if the Father is alive because his life force gave them immortality. Once the father died either child could be killed normally
r/wooosh
Are there star wars characters that were brown robes and were masks because my friend thinks that Yoda is one of the but Im not entirely sure what who he was talking about I thought Josh was talking about the wills but he said not the wills but he didn't know what else but he forgeted it was he talking about the clossest thing I could think of was the wills or is there another star wars character like that
Plo Koon?
Personally I love all the different aspects of the force introduced in clone wars/rebels live the One's, the Lothe Wolves and the world between worlds. Hopefully we see more of that.
1. Ahsoka named the bird Morai not Ezra...
2. We dont know if Ahsoka ever died..from what we know now its safe to assume Ezra saves her in every scenario...We just weren't aware of it until seeing it happen in season 4.
3. It's not really time travel if you think about it. He simply pulled her into a dimension where time doesn't exist..and she goes back to almost the exact same spot..It's a closed time loop.
Personally, I never liked the idea of time travel. It makes things far messier than they ever should be.
Star Wars handled it simply for the most part though. Having it so there is only one timeline that happens, and Ahsoka does live during all of season 3 and season 4, just we don't see it. She didn't die originally, and it makes sense. Also, the one known entrance, the one in the Lothal temple is gone, so there would be little to no more time travel, and that's honestly a good choice.
They handled it well...ahsoka never died. She was shown walking out of the temple in the end of that episode and we just didn’t know how she escaped, they later showed Ezra pulled her into the world between worlds. Time travel is bad when it creates all different timelines and erases past storyline’s and becomes granulated and hard to follow. There’s only one timeline, nothing changed....which goes along with what physicists believe about time today. In that you can’t alter it. The future has already “happened”. The past the present and the future are all always “happening at the same time” if you went into the past to change something, you always went into the past your actions might set up the future, but you always did those things. The timeline can’t change
I think that time travel can work in _Star Wars_ if it's handled very, very carefully. It's exceptionally easy to screw up time travel, because of how easy it is to create plot holes and paradoxes. Even series that are entirely based around time travel, like _Doctor Who_ don't always get everything right, so you have to be extremely careful when you introduce time travel into something.
15.31 in the trees In the new season of Mandalorian the jedi episode yup Morai is live action And Mortis is confirmed..
Time travel is ok if done right and rarely used as well as hard to do a as it makes it more believable
Watching this on my day off today
The daughter used lighningbending move to reflect The son’s lightning back on him! Also.....as a darkness can have small piece of light, light can’t be without small piece of darkness.
Hey what happened to daily audio podcasts? Love those and I’d love to get them everyday!
Great series of videos!!! Best SW channel in Galaxy!!
Always love time travel. But I need more fanfictions.
While The Morris Arc was great, I really can’t stand the notion of time travel in Star Wars.
Also I like time travel it it can explain legends and canon and some event causing the splitting of the two
You have made great Theories about Star Wars I'm excited for episode 2 of the Darth Vader fan film
Force is defined as many things, and power over many things. Time travel and dimensional shifts fit into to puzzle.
The story with the ones is a little bit tricky I like it, it works and it also feels a little off. But the question is now that the Sister energy saved Ahsoka, does it mean Ahsoka got her powers, or part of them Did she get immortal or got longer lifespan. Do you need the mortis dagger to kill her. For me Ahsoka can be around forever
I dont think she gained any special abilities but maybe became more powerful like enhancing her force abilities and all that.
Totally unrelated, but where can i read up on Legends Luke Skywalker?
I don’t really dig time travel in Star Wars, but it was awesome to see Ashoka battle Vader!
I think that when AHSOKA was revived she was revived by using the soul of daughter therefore making her identical to her so there might be some hidden feature or personality of the daughter laying dormant in AHSOKA which might make her more powerful and maybe the daughter would come back within her when the time comes
Who do you think would win in a fight?
The Wills
Or
The Ones
Clash of Gods
The Elite the real Battle of Gods
The Will's : why ? Because the ones embody the force, the Will's are it's masters and ergo the masters of the ones.
Well the Whills in canon appear to be just a mortal species who record events in the galaxy and only one known member- a Shaman was confirmed to know the secret to eternal consciousness but there's no indication yet if that particular Whill actually was a Force Spirit or not or ever actually became one.
In Legends, we know even less, just that they had an Order of Shamans who according to Yoda knew the secret to eternal consciousness. That's literally it. Everything else known about them in Legends is just speculation in-universe by various characters.
Point is the Whills in canon and Legends have no feats for fans to use in a who would win in a fight debate.
The Ones in canon and Legends do.
In canon, the Ones are the most powerful known Force Users to ever exist period.
In Legends, they are Celestials, a species that created celestial-scale constructs, some of which were made to imprison Abeloth, a Force Entity whose only known equal was the Father. The Celestials were speculated in-universe to have merged with the Force eons ago and guide its will and flow.
What feats we do have for the Ones in both canon and Legends puts them above the Whills in canon and legends right now thus the Ones would win in a fight by default.
It ain't very clear
Really enjoyed these 3 videos you did. I will revisit this story arc when Disney+ starts up. Love the clone wars series. I even still like the 2D animated one that is no longer canon. keep up great work.
I don't remember who said this, but Star Wars rhymes in it's story telling. The Son and Daughter (what remains of them) duelled again on Malachor.
This lightens my feelings slightly as to how Ahsoka was saved. I'm glad she is alive, being my favourite character and all, but I was iffy on if time travel was the way to do it. Primarily because it felt at first like Ahsoka was a character the creators didn't want to let go; I wonder if keeping her alive was a little inorganic to the story, so to speak. Realizing now, about the Rhyme or Echo that I mentioned above, I hope there is an excellent payoff for keeping Ahsoka alive.
I don't have hope for Disney's Lucasfilm, but I do for Dave Filoni. But that's a tale for another time...
Obi-Wan at the parents conference: So if your children are that powerful, how to you manage them?
The Father with a cup of vodka: *I have to yeet them to the floor before they accidently kill the other*
Obi-Wan, spitting out his tea: W H A T?
I know this is 2 years old but even though time travel is dangerous to tamper with especially in star wars, I was actually pleasantly surprised at how it was introduced, also I feel they won't tamper with it too much as it could quite literally wipe out previous stories for nothing, who knows there might be more to The World Between Worlds than just time travel?
Also it seems like Ahsoka was meant to be saved that way, regardless the means it was almost as if her fate is still just that
This makes me wonder about Abeloth. She isn't canon but would have made a cool and scary twist.
Looking at certain patterns seen in the nature of the force. The dark side is manipulative, power seeking, and is driven by the various passions we have. The light side is passive, knowledge seeking, and is driven by reasoning and strict discipline. The balance, or the gray side, is neutral, controlled, and is driven to find a way to combine the two sides successfully. All sides though are capable of imperfection and letting their way in the force get the better of them. Star Wars seems like a tragedy, where the force is power, and that power corrupts. All force users will lose to it's will one way or another, and you die. A pattern shows to bring balance to the force, is to die. Anakin, the chosen one, brought balance to the force twice. Once with the death of the ones, but also with killing all Jedi then later the last of the sith to protect his son. The natural order of the universe is chaos, and life there to meet it. The various sides of the force is a way to bring control. But Death is the will of the force. To be one with the force is to die.
Pro time travel with the way they did it.