thank you for the positive history insight on black socialites. Some of us love The fuss and buss and fuel of American stories. It’s great to see a black one!
Agreed! I'm fascinated with this series, primarily because I grew up in NYC. I started listening to The Guilded Age podcast, and noticed several comments that Peggy and Oscar's characters are a form of "wokeness", and should not be "forced" in the storyline. This illustrates the limits of the American education system because I learned most of what I know about "upper class" Black Americans from my family, college level courses, and reading on my own like Mr. Fellows. Additionally, gay people have always been around, but obviously not out in the open, which is depicted in the story.
@@sparker7768 u know what’s cool tho. Sometimes I slip away from the tvs narrative and remember how racist American was/is… like I’m searching for evil or something… but then I get back into the story and realize they choose to tell a beautiful side regardless. U see all the black ppl dressed well. The creators decided to go a certain way instead of the other way and I respect that.
This show is UNDOUBTEDLY the best show streaming on the planet. I love the inclusion of the black Victorians. I'm usually not interested in always including different cultures for "representation's" sake, but this just works so well. I may be impartial because I love the Victorian era. Such a long span of time and so much movement. Thank you Mr. Fellows.
I agree with you. Had Mr. Fellows not taken the time to educate himself, Peggy's character would seem forced. We see that she was still being treated as "second class" despite her family's true standing, in a manner that was common at that time.
Nothing has changed - the old and new money are exactly the same today, in England anyway! Really loved the first episode and nice to see a NY perspective.
It's like that in New Zealand but I can't deal with it because New Zealand is so small and young a country anyway those people seem like petty little villagers. The old guard have 'tall poppy syndrome'. and it's supposed to be about egalitarianism but it is quite the opposite. Old families are incredibly envious of talent and skill.
America was supposed to be better. It’s one of the most interesting things this series details. We’d like to think we broke away from royalty and the class system. We really just recreated it in our own way.
All this shows imitating France France and France royalty!!!!!!! English wish to have 10% of the perfection that’s come from the French royalty!!!!!but I must say this is one of the best show , made very well !!! I love it because they made very authentic to history , I enjoy it very much !
THE GILDED AGE was the name of a novel written by Mark Twain in 1873 that satires the graft and the corruption that went on in the Grant Administration. It has nothing to do with the HBO mini series. I recently read the new novel and it was very entertaining. It should be reprinted so it can be made into a movie or a mini-series.
Well Lacroix was influenced by Worth and the gilded age, as was Vivienne Westwood. Corsets, bustles, tons of draping. Beautiful little hats. What I REALLY found impressive was that blood red velvet cape Bertha went to the concert in. That was very Worth AND Lacroix and it Killed me because it most likely took hundreds of hours to make that masterpiece and it was on screen for less than 30 seconds. GGRrrrr. It's said that there are only 75 seamstresses on staff for Guilded. I think it has to be much more. This is a huge undertaking because many of these gowns have to be hand done on a couture level. Then you have the millinery dept and the shoes and accessories dept.
Carrie Coon was 8 months pregnant and many of the costumes had to disguise that. Doubt we saw what the costumer designers would have chosen otherwise. We'll see in Season 2 though I hope.
The designs for Bertha are a weird mix of 19th century styles and modern details and fabrics. That's what makes them look more like Lacroix than Worth. I don't think you guys got the point I made.
The Gilded Age indirectly play a major role in nation development of Cuba via reporter one Jose Marti.He saw negative side effects in NYC society but had in his way of thinking.
I wish instead of showing the lazy stereotype of struggling African Americans this show had gone further to show some of the ACTUAL African American elite families that existed at the time in New York. An example would be The Downing dynasty, who literally created the concept of Oyster fine dining houses in New York City and were fabulously wealthy as well as patronised by the city's leading families and European royals.
Have you seen the latest episodes? They actually cover exactly that. In fact one of the characters assumes that Peggy is poor because she is in Brooklyn, and is in for a huge surprise to realize that she comes from affluence and so do those her around her. That's when the mentions of attending Howard University, holding businesses that are thriving amongst a few other things. Have a look again and see if you feel like that has been tackled, but I defo think it was. And there's more to come I hope. As someone who is black, and fun fact my last name is Downing, it was nice to finally see Black people Inc. in the show during this time era that wasn't rooted around slavery, or poverty. I personally hate those shows and it's painful and embarrassing that's the only time we get to be in things. Or unless we're slaves or some kind of drug dealer or gangster --So I get your concern. But let me know your thoughts.
Also, if you have any information on the Downing dynasty that I could read or at least point me in the right direction I'd be interested in learning. When I Google it nothing comes up
@@Skysdalimit247 Not sure the original person who made the comment saw the 4th episode where Peggy's family is shown. Hats off to Julian Fellowes for including a true and positive side of Black America. And also for pulling in black historians to help keep it authentic. I hope he keeps the positive focus on Peggy's character. Overall the cast is good as well as the series (he bases it on actual people like Ward McAllister and Mary Astor and her sacred "400 families").
@@ld1655 Honestly I never saw Peggy as "struggling", even from the first episode. Besides the way she presented (speech and dress), I believe we learned she'd finished college, and she had enough money to pay for a bus ticket for Marion.
She was new money, as Sky mentioned. She explained her designers were from Europe, not NY, in the first episode. They are period, just not conservative period. Bertha chose her fashions from Parisian up-and-comers, not the NY & London Old Guard. She wasn't about "fitting in," she was all about standing out.
@@srdfb2260 Aside from the obviously sexist and misogynistic claim you just made about her reason for success. Cynthia is a well known lesbian who’s been in a committed relationship with her partner for several years. Considering there aren’t many lesbian Hollywood producers for her to sleep with, I think her talent is what’s gotten her where she is. Or at the very least, a good agent.
Her acting credentials are impeccable! She is a well respected broadway performer, so unless you have two Tony's (Tony's are awarded by other other actors in the field) maybe your opinion is just that. Thanks for playing though
@@MikeA15206 Just because the elite gives you an award, doesn’t mean you are a good actress. She sucks in pretty much every she was in, and most especially, the gilded age. She is just a woke lesbian which makes her fashionable right now. By the way, most of my family members are of that persuasion and I support their happiness.
@@srdfb2260 Curious, what are your credential with regard to acting? Drama school? Film studies? Anything? Of course you are entitled to not like her but when these "elites" value her, it means the experts have. Wondering what you are an expert at?
How are those families facing financial ruin if they sold the stocks for a profit already? Make it make sense! If you buy a stock and it goes up and you sell it.. You MAKE MORE MONEY! Someone buying it after you sold makes zero difference to your money you ALREADY MADE
@@TheGenXer I alpreciate the insight. However they said they were already selling the stock which triggered Mr Russell to tell his guy to buy. Are you saying they only sold enough to trigger a drop so they could unload the bulk of it later?
They were shorting the stock. But Russell artificially raised the stock price so high the aldermen couldn't afford to buy back the stock they had borrowed to return to their brokers
Set Decoration: Totally wrong as far as the interiors of the "Old Money". They would not have highly ornate High Victorian furniture, but rather 18th Century as well as pieces right up to, but not after, The American Empire style. There would also be displays of fine China and many portraits! High Victorian would be trendy at this time and thought of as garish and "Jumped UP"! Amazing that snooty Fellowes would not realize this distinction! Class snobbery is often about what you don't (wouldn't) have than what you do! America adopted this attitude from The Brits. When ever you hear the phrase "so unpretentious" as a complement you are talking to "Old Money", or even, more likely, someone pretending to be!
I think you need to see more of the show. Those elements were definitely incorporated. In fact the last episode there was a tour of someone's home in one of the scenes and all those things you just mentioned were in there.
The set designer agrees with you, in an interview I heard him say he toned down to the High Victorian to make it more accessible to American audiences. Remember this is being filmed with considerations on focus and action requiring more emphasis.
This is simply a period soap opera it does not depict accuracy of this time. It is the story of fictitious Robber Barons and decline of the Mayflower reign, however, in terms of accuracy it simply tips the edge then walks from it.
You are right, but that is my problem with the show. Fellows is rewriting US history to suit his own political agenda. In the process, he’s undermining values that I hold dear. The real Alva Vanderbilt wasn’t new money. She was the granddaughter of an Alabama plantation owner. He owned 500 slaves, putting him in the 1% of the 1%. Alva spent the Civil War in Paris, because why should her family fight in a war to protect their “right” to own slaves. That’s a task for the 98%-ers! My ancestor died in a prisoner of war camp in Georgia, so I can’t share Julian Fellows love for Alva.
@@strawberryshortcake4342 A writer always "Borrows" BECAUSE they need to inject historical context in terms of gender, race, religious, and events of the period in order to tell a story. In this HISTORICAL SOAP OPERA OF THE GILDED AGE he is focusing on ROBBER BARONS and the MENATALITIEs OF the ERA. A writer who writes futuristic stories will "BORROW" context from the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION you see this in all futuristic films from DUNE on. STAR WARS took content from NAZI Germany a writer needs content and context, therefore, they will look at historical figures, events, and study what motivated them and build characters. This writers of this Time Period Soap Opera did the same.
Hahaha yes New York was famously thought to be the dirtiest city in the world. People were farming chickens and pigs in their houses as it crowded up. That would be cool to see! But I think they are being deliberately glitzy and artificial by what Julian says. After working in a country club I did find the gilded age thing of middle class Americans pretending to be European nobility to be quite goofy. I think that Julian has captured the spirit quite well and translated very idiosyncratically British ideas to the American context quite well. And I think people understand that that is essentially what this is. It is taking that Downton Abbey idea and translating it into an American context.
That's true but I think the 5th Avenue was the exception even if I agree still too clean in the show, it was rare to watch a lower class citizen walking through the 5th Ave, they only went there for work. The same is happening right now in billionaire row in NYC, there's not a piece of paper on the street because that row is really the priority of the city if not the country.
maybe if it was lower east side with the immigrants and tenements, but this was uptown in the "nice part of town". this area was still being developed and not overcrowded at this time. they probably had people cleaning up the horse shit too lol
To the writers of “The Gilded Age:” the audience is smarter than you think they are. If Julian Fellows is burned out or short on time, hire people to help him. Or hire new writers who know something about social history, that shouldn’t be so hard.
I am very disappointed in the quality of the acting on this series. There is something missing in several of the performances. I’m not sure if it’s a directing problem or the performers themselves. Not sure I will continue to watch.
It is a wonderful show, however we have noticed a few script errors, for instance a character refers to Muslims, well back then they were referred to as Mohammedans. In episode six either Marian or Peggy refers to “making dinner”; they would have said “fixing dinner” . Why is the script not checked beforehand is a mystery. Also in virtually every film I have ever seen suitcases are always carried around, handed to someone else, loaded on transportation weighing absolutely nothing. Don’t film makers know full suitcases are very heavy ?
I know right?!? So much talking and nothing blows up. WTH? We need a superhero or a Zombie to liven things up people! Every costume drama needs that!!! Come on HBO? Catch up it's 2022.
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I am so glad Mr Fellowes read Black Gotham.... there was a black middle class...and prosperous.
Thank You for including Black Gotham. One of the reasons I can’t get enough of this show.
thank you for the positive history insight on black socialites. Some of us love The fuss and buss and fuel of American stories. It’s great to see a black one!
Agreed 100% Good for Julian Fellowes to educate himself and include this part of NY and black history into the series.
Agreed! I'm fascinated with this series, primarily because I grew up in NYC. I started listening to The Guilded Age podcast, and noticed several comments that Peggy and Oscar's characters are a form of "wokeness", and should not be "forced" in the storyline. This illustrates the limits of the American education system because I learned most of what I know about "upper class" Black Americans from my family, college level courses, and reading on my own like Mr. Fellows. Additionally, gay people have always been around, but obviously not out in the open, which is depicted in the story.
@@sparker7768 u know what’s cool tho. Sometimes I slip away from the tvs narrative and remember how racist American was/is… like I’m searching for evil or something… but then I get back into the story and realize they choose to tell a beautiful side regardless. U see all the black ppl dressed well. The creators decided to go a certain way instead of the other way and I respect that.
This show is UNDOUBTEDLY the best show streaming on the planet. I love the inclusion of the black Victorians. I'm usually not interested in always including different cultures for "representation's" sake, but this just works so well. I may be impartial because I love the Victorian era. Such a long span of time and so much movement. Thank you Mr. Fellows.
I agree with you. Had Mr. Fellows not taken the time to educate himself, Peggy's character would seem forced. We see that she was still being treated as "second class" despite her family's true standing, in a manner that was common at that time.
Julian is a genius!! Love his writing , always historically accurate and so intriguing
Nothing has changed - the old and new money are exactly the same today, in England anyway! Really loved the first episode and nice to see a NY perspective.
It's like that in New Zealand but I can't deal with it because New Zealand is so small and young a country anyway those people seem like petty little villagers. The old guard have 'tall poppy syndrome'. and it's supposed to be about egalitarianism but it is quite the opposite. Old families are incredibly envious of talent and skill.
America was supposed to be better. It’s one of the most interesting things this series details. We’d like to think we broke away from royalty and the class system. We really just recreated it in our own way.
Denee is Beautiful! 💕
This has made me want to watch the Guilded Age
Fenomenal cast and sets... I'm hooked already!
Thank you, I love everything about this series!😍
It’s a great show I just love it thank you 😊 so much for filling it and showing how America was in that time
Love the Gilded Age!!
I absolutely LOVE this show !!!!
This show is everything! ❤️
Thank you for the series. Fascinating and interesting to learn about the other side of African Americans from another perspective
absolutely LOVE Christine Baranski, that woman could portray a brown paper bag and make it glorious!!!!!
So excited for the premie.
I love this show!
I love this movie!! The plot, theme, costume are stunning. I've watched it 7x already. I am going to read the book Black Gotham
All this shows imitating France France and France royalty!!!!!!! English wish to have 10% of the perfection that’s come from the French royalty!!!!!but I must say this is one of the best show , made very well !!! I love it because they made very authentic to history , I enjoy it very much !
THE GILDED AGE was the name of a novel written by Mark Twain in 1873 that satires the graft and the corruption that went on in the Grant Administration. It has nothing to do with the HBO mini series. I recently read the new novel and it was very entertaining. It should be reprinted so it can be made into a movie or a mini-series.
That's very interesting. I'll check it out.
I wonder if they will touch on the importance of religion at this time in the USA?
You ALL rock
Because she was ❤️
Bertha's costumes look more like Lacroix than Worth.
Maybe that's because Lacroix's earliest work and studies were based in the Gilded Age period and it inspired much of his work in the 20th Century.
Well Lacroix was influenced by Worth and the gilded age, as was Vivienne Westwood. Corsets, bustles, tons of draping. Beautiful little hats. What I REALLY found impressive was that blood red velvet cape Bertha went to the concert in. That was very Worth AND Lacroix and it Killed me because it most likely took hundreds of hours to make that masterpiece and it was on screen for less than 30 seconds. GGRrrrr. It's said that there are only 75 seamstresses on staff for Guilded. I think it has to be much more. This is a huge undertaking because many of these gowns have to be hand done on a couture level. Then you have the millinery dept and the shoes and accessories dept.
Carrie Coon was 8 months pregnant and many of the costumes had to disguise that. Doubt we saw what the costumer designers would have chosen otherwise. We'll see in Season 2 though I hope.
The designs for Bertha are a weird mix of 19th century styles and modern details and fabrics. That's what makes them look more like Lacroix than Worth. I don't think you guys got the point I made.
This is way better than Downton
The Gilded Age indirectly play a major role in nation development of Cuba via reporter one Jose Marti.He saw negative side effects in NYC society but had in his way of thinking.
What day and time?
I wish instead of showing the lazy stereotype of struggling African Americans this show had gone further to show some of the ACTUAL African American elite families that existed at the time in New York. An example would be The Downing dynasty, who literally created the concept of Oyster fine dining houses in New York City and were fabulously wealthy as well as patronised by the city's leading families and European royals.
Have you seen the latest episodes? They actually cover exactly that. In fact one of the characters assumes that Peggy is poor because she is in Brooklyn, and is in for a huge surprise to realize that she comes from affluence and so do those her around her. That's when the mentions of attending Howard University, holding businesses that are thriving amongst a few other things. Have a look again and see if you feel like that has been tackled, but I defo think it was. And there's more to come I hope. As someone who is black, and fun fact my last name is Downing, it was nice to finally see Black people Inc. in the show during this time era that wasn't rooted around slavery, or poverty. I personally hate those shows and it's painful and embarrassing that's the only time we get to be in things. Or unless we're slaves or some kind of drug dealer or gangster --So I get your concern. But let me know your thoughts.
Also, if you have any information on the Downing dynasty that I could read or at least point me in the right direction I'd be interested in learning. When I Google it nothing comes up
@@Skysdalimit247 I don't think they watched it lol
@@Skysdalimit247 Not sure the original person who made the comment saw the 4th episode where Peggy's family is shown. Hats off to Julian Fellowes for including a true and positive side of Black America. And also for pulling in black historians to help keep it authentic. I hope he keeps the positive focus on Peggy's character. Overall the cast is good as well as the series (he bases it on actual people like Ward McAllister and Mary Astor and her sacred "400 families").
@@ld1655 Honestly I never saw Peggy as "struggling", even from the first episode. Besides the way she presented (speech and dress), I believe we learned she'd finished college, and she had enough money to pay for a bus ticket for Marion.
Christine B from Buffalo, NY nothing gilded there
Bertha's wardrobe doesn't look period. It looks like a present day take on the period.
She's new money, it was done on purpose. Read about conspicuous consumption it will explain it all.
She was new money, as Sky mentioned. She explained her designers were from Europe, not NY, in the first episode. They are period, just not conservative period. Bertha chose her fashions from Parisian up-and-comers, not the NY & London Old Guard. She wasn't about "fitting in," she was all about standing out.
Building sounds a lot liek now😂Eveyone wants to look good regardless if they can afford to or not
I like this new series, however, Cynthia Nixon’s acting is not very good. They should have cast someone else.
I've always thought she was an awful actor and never got the hype.
@@srdfb2260 Aside from the obviously sexist and misogynistic claim you just made about her reason for success. Cynthia is a well known lesbian who’s been in a committed relationship with her partner for several years. Considering there aren’t many lesbian Hollywood producers for her to sleep with, I think her talent is what’s gotten her where she is. Or at the very least, a good agent.
Her acting credentials are impeccable! She is a well respected broadway performer, so unless you have two Tony's (Tony's are awarded by other other actors in the field) maybe your opinion is just that. Thanks for playing though
@@MikeA15206 Just because the elite gives you an award, doesn’t mean you are a good actress. She sucks in pretty much every she was in, and most especially, the gilded age. She is just a woke lesbian which makes her fashionable right now. By the way, most of my family members are of that persuasion and I support their happiness.
@@srdfb2260 Curious, what are your credential with regard to acting? Drama school? Film studies? Anything? Of course you are entitled to not like her but when these "elites" value her, it means the experts have. Wondering what you are an expert at?
How are those families facing financial ruin if they sold the stocks for a profit already? Make it make sense! If you buy a stock and it goes up and you sell it.. You MAKE MORE MONEY! Someone buying it after you sold makes zero difference to your money you ALREADY MADE
Maybe you need to rewatch and then do some reading on how margin stocks work.
I thought Mr. Morris and his old-money mates were shorting the stock?
They were shorting the stocks.
@@TheGenXer I alpreciate the insight. However they said they were already selling the stock which triggered Mr Russell to tell his guy to buy. Are you saying they only sold enough to trigger a drop so they could unload the bulk of it later?
They were shorting the stock. But Russell artificially raised the stock price so high the aldermen couldn't afford to buy back the stock they had borrowed to return to their brokers
“Until the new people invaded.” 👀
No the Eton boys have the power,old money
Set Decoration: Totally wrong as far as the interiors of the "Old Money". They would not have highly ornate High Victorian furniture, but rather 18th Century as well as pieces right up to, but not after, The American Empire style. There would also be displays of fine China and many portraits! High Victorian would be trendy at this time and thought of as garish and "Jumped UP"! Amazing that snooty Fellowes would not realize this distinction! Class snobbery is often about what you don't (wouldn't) have than what you do! America adopted this attitude from The Brits. When ever you hear the phrase "so unpretentious" as a complement you are talking to "Old Money", or even, more likely, someone pretending to be!
I think you need to see more of the show. Those elements were definitely incorporated. In fact the last episode there was a tour of someone's home in one of the scenes and all those things you just mentioned were in there.
The set designer agrees with you, in an interview I heard him say he toned down to the High Victorian to make it more accessible to American audiences. Remember this is being filmed with considerations on focus and action requiring more emphasis.
This is simply a period soap opera it does not depict accuracy of this time. It is the story of fictitious Robber Barons and decline of the Mayflower reign, however, in terms of accuracy it simply tips the edge then walks from it.
You are right, but that is my problem with the show. Fellows is rewriting US history to suit his own political agenda. In the process, he’s undermining values that I hold dear. The real Alva Vanderbilt wasn’t new money. She was the granddaughter of an Alabama plantation owner. He owned 500 slaves, putting him in the 1% of the 1%. Alva spent the Civil War in Paris, because why should her family fight in a war to protect their “right” to own slaves. That’s a task for the 98%-ers! My ancestor died in a prisoner of war camp in Georgia, so I can’t share Julian Fellows love for Alva.
@@strawberryshortcake4342 Ummm...LOL nobody rewrote history. This is a period drama soap opera it is not pretending to be anything but that.
@@sammythompson3598 He’s borrowing very heavily!
@@sammythompson3598 I think he’s trying to white-wash his own family history and justify his personal politics.
@@strawberryshortcake4342 A writer always "Borrows" BECAUSE they need to inject historical context in terms of gender, race, religious, and events of the period in order to tell a story. In this HISTORICAL SOAP OPERA OF THE GILDED AGE he is focusing on ROBBER BARONS and the MENATALITIEs OF the ERA. A writer who writes futuristic stories will "BORROW" context from the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION you see this in all futuristic films from DUNE on. STAR WARS took content from NAZI Germany a writer needs content and context, therefore, they will look at historical figures, events, and study what motivated them and build characters.
This writers of this Time Period Soap Opera did the same.
We are in the guilded age. ..All smoke and mirrors. ..nothing or no one is as they appear.
The street scenes are too clean. There was horse manure for instance.
My exact reaction! Recall a scene in "Sense And Sensability".."be carefull the horses have been here"! LOL!
Hahaha yes New York was famously thought to be the dirtiest city in the world. People were farming chickens and pigs in their houses as it crowded up. That would be cool to see!
But I think they are being deliberately glitzy and artificial by what Julian says.
After working in a country club I did find the gilded age thing of middle class Americans pretending to be European nobility to be quite goofy.
I think that Julian has captured the spirit quite well and translated very idiosyncratically British ideas to the American context quite well. And I think people understand that that is essentially what this is. It is taking that Downton Abbey idea and translating it into an American context.
It may be a period drama but no one wants to see shit on the sidewalk.
That's true but I think the 5th Avenue was the exception even if I agree still too clean in the show, it was rare to watch a lower class citizen walking through the 5th Ave, they only went there for work. The same is happening right now in billionaire row in NYC, there's not a piece of paper on the street because that row is really the priority of the city if not the country.
maybe if it was lower east side with the immigrants and tenements, but this was uptown in the "nice part of town". this area was still being developed and not overcrowded at this time. they probably had people cleaning up the horse shit too lol
I can't watch this series. I can't. I want to, but Cynthia Nixon just throws it all off. It's a nice try, but wow. No.
I feel the same way. Christine Baranski completely overpowers her. They needed a stronger actress for that re.
She's really good. Her acting is amazing in the Gilded Age.
Cynthia Nixon is terrible!
I will read Black Gotham. Your never heard about the black inventors or Doctors and Black universities.
To the writers of “The Gilded Age:” the audience is smarter than you think they are. If Julian Fellows is burned out or short on time, hire people to help him. Or hire new writers who know something about social history, that shouldn’t be so hard.
WHAT is going on with Cynthis Nixon's teeth??? I'm so upset that she looks bad. 😒
Where are the accents of the immigrants? Horrible representation of New York . Disappointing.
Every employee in the kitchen has an accent. English, Irish and French. That is correct for the time. They haven't shown "downtown" yet but they will.
@@cesnyc and German
And Polish.
Bertha Russell: "You think you finished the gilding, Mr. Kowalski?"
I am very disappointed in the quality of the acting on this series. There is something missing in several of the performances. I’m not sure if it’s a directing problem or the performers themselves. Not sure I will continue to watch.
It is a wonderful show, however we have noticed a few script errors, for instance a character refers to Muslims, well back then they were referred to as Mohammedans.
In episode six either Marian or Peggy refers to “making dinner”; they would have said “fixing dinner” . Why is the script not checked beforehand is a mystery.
Also in virtually every film I have ever seen suitcases are always carried around, handed to someone else, loaded on transportation weighing absolutely nothing.
Don’t film makers know full suitcases are very heavy ?
So boring and the characters drone on and on. Did everyone lose their creativity during Covid?
I know right?!? So much talking and nothing blows up. WTH? We need a superhero or a Zombie to liven things up people! Every costume drama needs that!!! Come on HBO? Catch up it's 2022.