3D Printing Nozzle Size Comparison (0.2 vs 0.4 vs 0.6 vs 0.8mm Nozzle)
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- Here's another nozzle comparison test with .2, .4, .6 and .8mm nozzle sizes for a 4cm x 2cm bulbasaur test. In my opinion I'd go with .4mm nozzle for small items like this and 0.6mm for medium sized objects and only .8mm for large items or geometric items where detail isn't important. .2 was more detailed but took almost 3 times as long as the .4mm nozzle and wasn't quite that much better to make it worth it.
i think the problem with 0.2 noozle is that you can't use 0.2 layer height with it, it will not squeeze down the extruded filament cause it is equally as wide as thick. Try it with 0.1 layers height!
Certainly rigth. Since we use 0.20 layer for 0.40 nozzle.. just half..
0.8 Can't fool me. It's a ditto!!
Very cool Adam! Thanks for the honorable mention hahaha.
I'm not the most Tech savvy person and usually 3d print some models to satisfy my hobby of figure and miniature painting. To sum up what i've learned so far:
0.2mm nozzles are great for anything below 35mm tall, but at this scale, not all models are printable, I don't know why yet, but some just wont work, or at least fail at some areas, no matter the nozzle size, speed or layer height
0.4mm nozzles are what I use mostly for anything that has a reasonable amount of details and are 100mm~120mm tall at most.
0.6mm are the ones i'm mostly printing at. Since big figures are my favorites, when something is 150mm~ 200mm tall, those details really stand out even with the wider nozzle.
I've only user 0.8 and 1.0mm nozzles once, and It was for producing some simple toys for kids, without any details whatsoever, and it worked out just because it was so quick.
Keep the good content and this channel is going places! I think the information the way you provide is way more valuable than from huge 3d printing tech channels, those tend to loose themselves in technicalities, and make things way harder than it actually is, at least for people like me haha.
Thanks,
~Cheers from Brazil
Awesome glad you are enjoying the content, thanks for the kind words! I definitely take a more amateur approach and normal everyday guy take on printing. My Ender 3 is just in my spare bedroom like the average enthusiast haha, no fancy workshop or tools or anything like that. Yeah after this I think Im going to start using .6mm much more often. A significant time savings, good prints and still a good amount of detail. Thanks again and take care!
Very useful, but wouldn't it be better to normalise the height of the layers?
The price of the nozzle may not be the main problem. The slicer settings are more likely the issue. I hear things get really finicky at that size. Increase your temp and decrease print speed. Decrease layer heights, decrease line width. Some say you even need to upgrade your filament driving motor.
this isn't an accurate representation of what different nozzles can do. things start to look really good, even on 0.8, when the layer height is down. like you can print at 0.2mm on a 0.8mm nozzle, and it'll still be faster, and overhangs will be better.
Thanks man. That was an important fact for me. Started printing on a 0.8 some days ago and was somewhat disappointed in the results. But that makes sense!
Those bulbasaurs look like theve been through some shit
None of those come close to resin for detail. I'd just get a cheap resin printer for stuff like that.
Appreciate the info. Tired of waiting on prints using .4
AVOIDING NOZZLE CLOGS is the main concern for me.. i had to throw out so many models because of the .4 standard nozzle... i just bought a .8 and a 1.0... just how important is it to change the slicer nozzle size along with changing the nozzle size...
Many slicers will allow you to adjust layer height for specific layers... the top of the pokemon is a good contender for this. as most of the body looks fine you can just set it up to finish the top at a lower row height.
Nice, I'm not sure if Cura can, or maybe I just don't know how to. That would be worth investigating for sure
cura is even more advanced than the slicer on the FLashforge printer I have.@@OverExtrudedPhysicist
Cura can automatically adjust the layer thickness as it slices. The setting is called "Use Adaptive Layers", and is in the "Experimental" section if the slicer settings.
This was intesting, you should update that video with thr new arachne engine to compare again say 0.4mm nozzle with 0.6mm line width and 0.6mm nozzle with 0.6mm line width.
I print up to 0.8mm line width with my 0.4mm nozzle, no issue there at all, but there will be most likely secondary effects line filament swell, smaller volumetric flow and such stuff.
Not familiar with that arachne engine, but I can do the research and check it out, thanks for the suggestion!
@@OverExtrudedPhysicist I am a little surprised, it was a really big thing when Cura 5.0 and Prusa Slicer 2.6 released, this was a big update. Arachne basically increases or decreases line width automatically according to the part geometry. This works great and optimizes printing by a lot. However the line width change was useful even before arachne, arachne just helps utilizing it more.
In my course profile for example I use a line width of 0.8mm in my 0.4mm nozzle but my setting is that if fine lines come up within the print the slicer can automatically decrease my line width up to 0.45mm to preserve detail. This leads to much faste print times but I still preserve fine details as usual with a 0.4mm Nozzle. My nozzle basically runs between 0.45mm & 0.8mm line width.
20 mile layer height.
I het the .4mm with .1mm height would have looked perfect.
still kind of a rookie... I just went to a .8 on my old CR10. So when I download from Thiniverse and convert with the Cura, I change to the .8, but do I need to change the speed or does that auto change?
Settings will change for you. Feel free to alter if you'd like but I'd suggest keep the default settings, print something small just to test and then see how it goes. You may also need to level the bed again too fyi
How would layer thickness make effect to print you would use same thickness with all the nozzles. I mean if you use smaller nozzle with thicker layer, how would it change the results compared to bigger nozzle with same layer thickness.
Yeah good question, I think layer thickness would be prioritized over nozzle size. So if you have a .4mm nozzle with 1mm layer height and compare that to a .8mm nozzle with .5mm layer height the latter would look better. I believe. That would be a good comparison, maybe that's my next video!
@@OverExtrudedPhysicist Would be great to make another test for just first layer. trying different clearances between table and nozzle with different size nozzles. I think that would also help identifying the best layer thickness for the rest of the print?
Great test. What layer height did you use?
Thanks! I used the cura defaults to make it easy, .2. Thanks again for watching
Where do you buy your nozzles at?
great clip well detailed
what's the best layer height for a .6mm nozzle ?
I use 0.25 most of the times for 0.6 nozzle
What are the settings in your slicer software?
If you set it the same for all nozzles it will not be good.
Set each layer height to half the nozzle width at least to get better result.
I use 0.4mm nozzle set to layer height of 0.15 mm and that prints very well.
Your settings?
Layer height?
Speed?
I'm not as experienced yet, but from the research I did, as the rule of thumb, your layer height should be about half of the nozzle diameter. Lower layer height is possible, but you are losing advantage of having faster print speed with larger diameter nozzles. Bigger layer height is also possible, but the layers adhesion is decreasing- you are loosing strength unnecessarily. My limited experiments showed this to be true.
@@petersvancarek 0.8mm nozzles print fine at lower layer heights. you can totally do 0.2mm, even 0.1mm layer height on a 0.8mm nozzle. it'll still print faster than on a 0.2mm or 0.1mm nozzle because the 0.8mm nozzle prints thicker lines and therefore fills areas faster.
@@ThatJay283 of course they do. but that rule is there because higher layer thicknesses than about 0.6mm for 0.8mm nozzle will not holds together well. Ideally 0.4mm for 0.8mm nozzle. You may set smaller thicknesses of course, but you loose the speed and you won't gain much of strength.
Setting 0.2mm will lead to 2times longer print, 0.1 would lead to 4times as long print as if you used 0.4mm thick layer.
What kind of printer
That test was run on an ender 3!
Thanks for the video but it'd be much better without the music.
So what was the actual answer h u h