Which Air Compressor? Comparing ABAC, Bambi, Clarke, Hyundai, Orazio, Scheppach, SIP and Swan
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- In this video I choose a new air compressor by comparing specs and reviews in order to determine which is best for my needs. My critera was as follows: small in size, reliable and good quality, quiet running motor, good airflow (as high CFM as possible) and with a budget of around £250.
Follow up video: • Getting Started With P...
I compare the following offerings currently available to us here in the UK : ABAC Montecarlo OS15P OS20P and Pole Position OS15P, Bambi BB24, 24D and 50D, Clarke Shhh 100/24 and 50/24, Hyundai HY7524 and HY27550, Orazio 24l and 50l, Scheppach HC24si and HC50si, SIP QT24/10 and QT50/10 and Swan DRS-207-22, DRS-210-30 and DRS-215-50.
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My Choosing A Table Saw Video: • Choosing My New Table Saw
Andy Mac at Gosforth Handyman's Swan Compressor Review: • Swan DRS-210-30 Air Co...
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:06 My Critera
1:11 My Current Air Compressor
2:17 My Spraying Requirements
3:36 Comparing Available Air Compressors
6:00 Choosing An Air Compressor
7:50 A Final Conundrum!!!
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I love the spreadsheet breakdowns!
I have the Hyundai and can say it is hands down the best I have had so far. I had a few issues at setup but that was me not the equipment. The customer support was great and guided me through. It is very quiet compared to my previous model and almost 6 months on no issues at all. I would definitely recommend.
"And onto my current compressor. Here it is, covered in dust." Ha! Knew this was going to be a great video. The return of the spreadsheet. The outlines, the color coding, simply amazing. Great analysis. Can't wait to see what you get.
That's why I enjoy Keith's videos so much. He puts more time and detail into getting new tools than many people do getting a new car lol helped me when getting my new compressor last week
Good video Keith... Looking forward to the follow-up.
Perfect timing as I am about to buy my first compressor. Thank u
Actually not as helpful as I thought having watched it. Definitely food for thought tho.still a great video
Hi Keith, I have an ABAC baseline (yellow) 40l belt driven compressor about 3 years old and it’s one of the best I’ve ever used. Airflow is good and as long as you drain the tank (I do it but-weekly) water is no problem at all. It’s quiet compared to other compressors, belt driven comps usually are and I have to say, if recommended it in a heartbeat. The brand is good and the build quality is spot on 👌🏻 great video, always love your direct and honest approach with these tool decision vids👍🏼 stay safe!
I’m glad you took the time to make this video,I was on the verge of buying a SGS SC50V as it claims to have a CFM OF 14.6.
I didn’t do any research just Google’s high CFM compressor and the SGS fitted my budget
Looks good, shame about the 97db
@@RagnBoneBrown yeah I know , noise isn’t really a issue for me as I was going to build a housing outside the garage for it
Always love the spreadsheets
Hi Buddy been running my Hyundai compressor for over 14 months now never missed a beat very happy with it
Was kicking myself for buying a new compressor last week when I saw this vid pop up Keith! As it happens, I bought the Hyundai, but not the one you’re looking at, a smaller model, as I’m done with spraying. Plugged it in for the first time yesterday; it’s quiet, and it doesn’t leak, yet. 🤷♂️👍
Done with spraying completely? The Graco annoyed you to much?
"over to you Keith"
"thanks Keith. The weather across much of the Midlands..."
Great vid Keith, its very good point to be careful when choosing a compressor. Something i didnt when i bought mine many years ago.
"I just don't trust it any more" is always a very valid reason to move on and get a replacement. Holds true for domestic appliances (fridges and washing machines etc) as well.
Came here from a comment on a Gosforth Handyman compressor video, good stuff!
I bought the Hyundi 50 L back in the summer, I was impressed at the build quality for the money. No problems whatsoever with it. It is only used for blowing on the cutter of my CNC and driving the odd nail so it hasn't exactly been hammered tho.
Great video, cheers! I would hope the monte carlo isn't too much of a gamble ;)
Totally missed this video when it first came out! Been a bit offline with the house moves and renovation 😊. Only found it via Peter's recent vid. Thanks for the shout out bud! Excellent vid. By way of an update my Swan is still working after Axminster repaired it. I still think it's vastly over priced though. I'll watch your spraying vid next! 👍😁🛠️
Cheers Andy, glad to hear it's still going! 👍
Interesting video. I have an sgs 24ltr compressor & have been wondering whether or not I could use a spray gun with it. Not sure without looking what the specs are.
Hi
I use the sgs 50 l compressor with an ani hvlp spray gun with a good quality hose and fittings, I spray with pu enamel and waterbased never any issues. You can build a simple box insulated with rockwool to dampen down the noise.
Personally I'm not a fan of the lvlp guns, they just don't perform aswell as the hvlp . Hope this helps 👍
Looking forward to your spray gun review! I own a 24 L Hyundai but I’m not sure it will be powerful enough for a LVLP gun. I haven’t been brave enough yet to buy one :).
You may considering looking into Makita’s compressors. They don’t have large tanks, but their the quietest compressors I’ve ever been around, they’re super reliable, they’re small, and they have great CFM.
Hi Keith, I left a comment on the last video blog recommending ABAC when you mentioned about buying an air compressor. I bought the same 50l MonteCarlo from a company called PJL Allsorts Ltd for £200 incl. free delivery. I got it off their eBay site as it was less for some reason, but I had no issues. It was delivered quickly and it’s been great ever since. This is just my experience, I can’t speak for others.
Hi great video, personally would go with the ABAC as I have sold them in the past after sales is very good with spare parts available. I know that the Hyundai products can be hard to obtain spare or get technical help. If you are in Norfolk give a Ernest doe branch a call (Wymondham, North Walsham or Fakenham) they are dealers for these machines and although not in stock will be able to get you a price on ordering.
Damn it!! An eff-you cliff hanger ending lol. I know nothing about compressors, nor am I looking for one but I need resolution here!!
Certainly keeps the pressure on....
I was looking at the Abac Pole Position OS20P 24 lt 2,0Hp which just has the smaller tank. You could repurpose your old one for more volume
Hi Keith, consider making a small , weather proof enclosure located outside, possibly behind your workshop. Put the compressor in the enclosure (which could also be soundproof) and feed the connecting hose through a hole in the wall. This would save space and ear ache:-)
I did that at my old workshop. Not practical here unfortunately
I'm looking at the Hyundai myself (50ltr twin pump). I noticed they are a bit misleading on the specs. Looking at the spec sheet it states Air Displacement as 10 CFM, and air flow in brackets as 7 CFM, the latter being much more realistic, I'm sure you'll agree. This seems to be quite common to see piston (or diaphragm) displacement specified separately to flow, but then Hyundai seem to have been happy to let people assume that 10-11 CFM is the flow figure by publishing the displacement figure in the "features" list. 7 still meets my requirements mind.
Great video by the way, very helpful and objective. Thank you for making it.
I have a 9lt table top 'silent' compressor from Rutlands Keith. I only use it for my vacuum clamps and nail gun mind so I don't need a lot of capacity. Would be no good for you, but it is very quiet and takes up little room😀
i purchased a 50 litre air compressor from aldi 5 years ago good cfm good for hvlp spraying it was about 180 pound the one from machine mart was just under double the price exactly the same but it is loud keith....i also expanded air with a extra tan about 100 litres works well
Your first investment should be a separate regulator/filter/drier. Put it in a user-friendly location so you actually adjust it to suit the task at hand.
On these amateur / diy pumps the cfm usually refers to Free Air Displacement (FAD) ie the swept volume of the piston(s) at atmospheric pressure which is misleading.
I would be looking at 4hp (3kw) minimum for single phase use. You might try looking at Compair units. Motor power is related to output, a higher power motor will give a higher output
Which compairs are under £250?
None that I know off but remember "you only get what you pay for" and "buy cheap buy twice". FWIW, our compair (150l, soft start 5kw) is over 30 years old, run daily, drained daily, serviced regularly and still running as it did when new. I wonder how many of these amateur/ diy pumps will still be going strong 30 years from now.
FAD stands for Free Air Delivery, and this is the volume of compressed air that an air compressor will actually discharge as a result of the compression process. CFM is typically a third less than displacement or swept volume
ABAC is a professional product, they have good reputation in general. I found a 24 liters silent Hyundai at a local store, I took it off the scaffold and the tank was full of rust/debris of some sort. Another good but pricey brand for silent compressors is Gentilin, made in Italy, very good quality; I dont know if they are available in your country.
Yeah can get gentilin compressors at spray direct online
My Hyundai MIG/MAG/MMA welder HYMIG180 has worked well for me thus far, only had it for about a year or so, seems to be made from robust components when I have looked under the skin.
I'm looking for a replacement for my Powercraft TA25/180 which has just died. I only got 21 years out of it 🤔. This video is very helpful, thanks.
I own a (very) large SIP and I have to say it has been very good. I use it to run a sandblasting cabinet so it is on full pressure all of the time and it does a great job at keeping up with the CFM requirements of the gun. It is really noisy though.
Consider the Hyundai, really quiet.
aha! I got your choice spot on in 30 seconds of knowing your desired spec, and assuming it was me. i often do lists and comparisons in the same way, its like a game. i felt like i had won the lottery when you got down to crossing off the bingo numbers at the end. I live in Thailand so my choice of manufacturers is totally different, but surprisingly theres no hyundai here!
Can not really comment on any of the specific compressors mentioned in the video but maybe just a word of caution regarding the whole setup. I have a 50 litre compressor from aldi, which at least on paper has a more power and higher cfm output. I used it with HVLP gun (amazon around 40 GBP) at first for painting furniture and I was not pleased with it, because the tank is just too small and it pretty much has to run constantly. So I bought a cheap LVLP gun from amazon (around 30 GBP) and tried that, however only saw a marginal improvement in compressor running time, but the painting was slower as I had to reduce the amount of paint on the gun to avoid the orange peel look. As far as I know it is supposedly bad for compressor to run continuously the rule of thumb I've heard is supposedly 1/3 of the time running, 2/3 not running.
The other things that really bothered me about it running pretty much constantly are:
- the noise (probably less of an issue for you since you're looking at the silent ones),
- smell of engine/oil after a while of running (my shop air quality monitor was showing very high number of particles and severe pollution) After spraying for an hour or so I couldn't wait to pull the mask of and the air in the shop was too polluted because of the compressor running (even though my air filter was running all the time), so it wasn't healthy to work on something else without a mask, while the panels or cabinets were drying. Maybe wouldn't be an issue if you go for an oil free one
- in longer spraying sessions (30 min+) condensation trap would get full and I would get water coming through and onto the piece I was finishing/painting. Very frustrating!
I am not trying to claim that you'll be facing all the same problems, maybe a better spray gun could fix a lot of the problems but I just didn't want to sink any more money into finding solutions that I wasn't confident that they will work So I finally decided to bite the bullet and bought the Fuji turbine and gun from Axminster, after seeing a lot of positive reviews online. I am super satisfied with it, just holding the gun it is in completely different league, but the price also reflects that.
I’ve changed from an aldi compressor to the Silent Hyundai 50l, a massive improvement in every way.
Hi. I might have missed on your other videos but what did you end up getting in the end. Watched this video when it came out but just recently blew up my compressor and thought I would go back to see what you got but could only find this and your old Orazio one. Keep up the great work
There's a link in the description
Thanks for the review - which is helpful especially for a first-time compressor (FTC) buyer. I did end up ordering the Hyundai 50L because it is particularly quiet. Your review mentioned the SIP versions - but with so little info to go on, I also decided against it. The ABAC isn't so quiet, so your review helped in not choosing this one. Where I went a separate way (I also have spreadsheets with colouring) was to include the Orazio and Hyundai. They may be similar, but that's not a reason to reject them both? FWIW Orazio and Hyundai are the same prices but it's easy to ask for a discount with the Hyundai. Both these models now have twin outlets and the Orazio has a wing nut on the drain now? All compressors seem to operate the same way e.g. it pumps up and stops and then starts again at a lower limit. Mostly there is an output regulator e.g. pumps to 7 or 8 bar and set an output e.g. 5 bar. If there is a big swing e.g. 5 - 7 bar between off/on, how do tools that need something in the middle work e.g. 6 bar for a spray gun? Perhaps they all allow up to (say) 6 bar but work at a lower pressure (within reason). Until you mentioned a low volume sprayer I had no idea there were different types - something else to look into. Thanks, Keith again, for all your videos. Simon
Cheers Simon. If they look similar, it's often an indication that they were built in the same factory by the same standards
great video, are any of this compressors capable of sand blasting? ( motorbike frame / engine.... nothing too big.
It'll be interesting to see how your new one fares.
Hi, I'm looking for my first compressor for a new home workshop. Following you, I wonder if you are still happy with your decision on ABAC compressor? Thanks
I want to know about the tanks E.G Strength, thickness and rottability.
A quick Value Engineering lesson. You are buying: Max Pressure, CFM at Pressure, and warranty. So establish a system to award points based on those items. Figure out how many points each compressor rates, and divide that by the cost. In the US there is an ASTM standard of how to rate the CFM, and it is at a set pressure. I’m not sure if the EU or UK have something similar. Personally I’d just evaluate on the CFM per Dollar.
I have the sip air-mate which is a great compressor and has more that enough power for spraying although is not that quiet
Just had a look at the ABAC Vs the Hyundai, the ABAC has max pressure of 9 bar, the Hyundai only has 7 bar, I'd prefer to have 230l at 9 bar of the ABAC, than 300l at 7 bar of the Hyundai, as I'm not likely to need to go above 200l bit the extra 2 bar would definitely come in useful. I say this as an owner of Hyundai welding equipment that I'm very happy with.
As an update, I purchased the Hyundai 50L silent compressor. The first unit to arrive had to be returned as it was not in new condition. Reading the reviews on Hyundai at Pembroke does not make good reading, they have very poor service reviews and something clearly is wrong there. However, the second unit arrived promptly and along with all the other Hyundai products I have bought has turned out to be a fabulous piece of kit. It is really quiet, recharges in 65 seconds and easily keeps up with a spray gun.
Whats the most reliable silent compressor. Mine went down after a year..motor popped.
If you're buying the ABAC from SGS, I can highly recommend their customer service. Bought my first compressor from them and they were fantastic with patient phone support for setting it up as well as instantly replacing a bottle of oil that had cracked in transit.
I bought one of their cheap own brand starter kits. Accessories are pretty flimsy but the compressor Seema like good quality.
Thank you
Worth noting that the 'Silent' model is called the ABAC MONTECARLO OS20P UK - 2HP 50L SILENT AIR COMPRESSOR & the non silent model is called the ABAC MONTECARLO O20P DIRECT DRIVE OIL-LESS 2HP 50 LITRE AIR COMPRESSOR. They appear & are named very similarly. This I didn't realise so ordered the non-silent model in error. Any easy mistake to make to the uninitiated, but the quality of the unit is certainly very impressive, although mine was delivered without any front rubber feet. The dB rating is louder than my old slightly smaller AirMaster compressor & am after the quieter model so will return it. Also with noting it connects using the Euro coupling as opposed to 1/2” BSP (not surprising since it’s an Italian brand).
Thank you for the info 👌
Hi im completely new to this field. Im looking at a compressor for art works big canvas body work pictures on to vehicles.NOT model making. But also would be handy to get one that also allows me to use hand tools in the workshop.
Would yor stear away from second hand ?
Ive heard good things about the scheppach models
So which one did you go with in the end?
Hi Keith, I have had several compressors in my time and I would tell you to avoid Scheppach, SIP and Swan as I had trouble with all of these makes, my choice would not work for you as I was given a large garage compressor when a friend of mine decided to retire and give up this business. I now have the air flow etc. to work my spray guns with power to spare so I am happy on that account but I did get a phone call from one of my neighbours asking me to turn off my compressor as it was stopping them from being able to sleep, I apologised because it was late and I could not hear it as I worked in Norway for a while so when I bought my house in the UK I insisted on getting treble glazing in even though I had to pay a premium for it, it is standard in Norway and one of the benefits is that you can’t hear any noise from outside.
With air flow (CFM) you need to make sure you're comparing apple to apples. Some manufacturers like Hyundai are advertising the Air Displacement CFM which is not the same as what your tools will be getting FAD/Free Air Delivery (CFM). That Hyundai actually only outputs 5.28 CFM which is hidden away in the spec sheet.
Hi Keith The SGS 3hp twin drive, 50L kicks out 14.6CFM which is ideal for spraying . At £240 it’s very good value but it runs at 97db which might be to loud after what you said. I’m not sure on their compressors but their generators are real quality so that’s the one I’m going to opt for I think. Great review as usual 👍
Any idea if that would keep up for Sandblasting? Iv not used a spray gun so not sure if air required is the same. Cheers
@@shaunwhiteley3544 I think I small sandblaster uses 10-20CFM so I’d check the spec on your blaster mate👍
FYI CFM differs to Peak flow rate which is what actually matters. When you see 14CFM it’s more like 9 ish peak flow rate.
CFM is a marketing trick.
How did you get on with the compressor? I am currently in the middle of choosing either the hyundai HY27550 or the SGS SC50V. Any thoughts would be much appreciated.
@@moneyoyoyowhich one did you pick and if it’s sgs how is it
free air delivery of a compressor is normally measured at 90 psi because this is the normal pressure that air tools work at but thats not a given, i know sealey rate theirs at 90 psi.
I've followed your table saw and dust extractor videos and found both really helpful in making my own decisions. Is there a way you can make the table available for us to download/copy? I typed out the dust extractor one and I'd rather not go through that again...
Can you pause and take a screen grab? I just assumed that I'd what people would do...
Have already done so! The screenshot certainly helps, but my criteria aren't quite the same as yours so there are some I'd like to add and sort by etc.
No worries if not, I just thought I'd ask in case it was easy to do. Thanks for doing so much of the research for us
I can send it to you if you drop me an email (ragnbonebrown@gmail.com)
The silent motors dont seem to last long?
Thanks for an honest and really detailed review, if it helps, from their eBay site I have so far purchased from Hyundai ; An electric start Lawn Mower, a 70cc Chainsaw, a petrol Hedge trimmer, a petrol Earth Tiller and now I’m going to add a 50litre Compressor thanks to your review.
They are based at Pembroke Dock and the packaging and delivery time on every purchase has been first class. I’ve had no problems with any of the equipment I’ve bought. No, I don’t work for them or have any connections (honest) . I need something quieter than the unit I’ve got ( Aldi )
Thanks again.
In this video I choose a new air compressor by comparing specs and reviews in order to determine which is best for my needs. My critera was as follows: small in size, reliable and good quality, quiet running motor, good airflow (as high CFM as possible) and with a budget of around £250.
I compare the following offerings currently available to us here in the UK : ABAC Montecarlo OS15P OS20P and Pole Position OS15P, Bambi BB24, 24D and 50D, Clarke Shhh 100/24 and 50/24, Hyundai HY7524 and HY27550, Orazio 24l and 50l, Scheppach HC24si and HC50si, SIP QT24/10 and QT50/10 and Swan DRS-207-22, DRS-210-30 and DRS-215-50.
My Orazio Compressor Review: ruclips.net/video/Wda1U4wUxsc/видео.html
My Choosing A Table Saw Video: ruclips.net/video/p1M7U-4JBvA/видео.html
Andy Mac at Gosforth Handyman's Swan Compressor Review: ruclips.net/video/g-Ypz6RvKOk/видео.html
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:06 My Critera
1:11 My Current Air Compressor
2:17 My Spraying Requirements
3:36 Comparing Available Air Compressors
6:00 Choosing An Air Compressor
7:50 A Final Conundrum!!!
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Hyundai has 2 years warranty, so they give you more securety
I laughed thats the same abac i bought. Im not a paint sprayer though so cant comment, i do like how this thing always works. I ordered mine from airsupplies took a while but arrived from italy, the bolts for the wheels were the wrong size but bought some from amazon and was fine. Bit shoddy but ok
Hi Keith. You really need the largest CFM available for your budget for spraying otherwise you will always be waiting around while
the tank pressure builds up to resume spraying. It's frustrating I went from a 9 to a 35 CFM many years ago. The extra cost in
the unit saved many hours of lost production time and running out of air half way through a large job. Great comparison work. Tony
Hi Tony, as I'm only spraying small items (typically pieces of furniture) I'm hoping it won't be an issue. I'd rather have something silent and small and compact and wait for it to refill than have something noisy that I don't have space for.... I won't know until I try it though 🤷♂️
@@RagnBoneBrown Hi Keith. You'll probably be okay then. If you need any more air quickly you could always double up with another small compressor. You could store it elsewhere and just run an air hose/line to your workshop when needed.
Do you have any thoughts about Milwaukees compressor? Seems like interesting choise, capacity is 34l/ min, propably just not enough for paintgun? 495€ here in Finland.
That's about 1.2 CFM, LVLP spraying requires 6 to 9 as a minimum
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Not nearly enough then. I have been using abac's compressor in my farmshop for 5 years or so, no issues what so ever. 150 liter tank, 3 phase model. Well made brand.
Hi Keith, why not have a look at Pacini I purchased a Pacini pillar drill a couple of years ago and I'm very happy with it and I had a compressor on my tools and machinery list and I see they have a good range
There is a 50lt silent compressor for sale on IGE for €269 seems a good price
Cheers, IGE actually offered me one for free a couple of years back, I said yes please but then they never responded to me 😟
That's a shame they must be popular they have a lot out of stock. I really like these style of videos I now do my own spreadsheets 👍
great review keith i am searching for a new compressor have you got to use your hyundai yet and what do you think of it need one for an 18mm brad nailer
I didn't get a Hyundai...?
@@RagnBoneBrown i know now found the one you got last night . how are you getting on with the one you got now please
ps love the in depth reviews gives people confidence in what to buy
Did he do a follow up video on what he got cant seem to find anything
the link is in the description box
Hi Keith, if the majority of your time you may be spraying, go for the highest CFM you can otherwise it will break your heart waiting for the tank to pressurise. Joining your older tank to your new one would give you more volume too if you didn't want to go for anything bigger than 50ltr.
I have no experience in this but do you mean to remove the motor on the old and connect the remaining tank with a hose and open valves btw the new and the gun?
You could pipe the old compressor tank to the new for more reserve air for spraying and to keep a constant pressure.
Space is the issue
I know what you mean I have an old compressor in the back corner of my garagen and it tucked in under shelves for working on my old car with. But the other tank doesn't need to be right next to the compressor just piped up to it. Could be outside and if you put a fitting outside you'd be able to air points outside. Instead of trailing loads of air line from the garage to the shed like I have to. Or sell the old one and put the money against the new one.
Was oiled vs oil-free part of your consideration? I mean, service intervalls, duty cycles, noise, ease of use etc?
No not really, although the one I bought was oilless
They all seem to use the same motor?
Any updates. Which compressor did you end up getting
ruclips.net/video/pNnEHZBy3ik/видео.html
ABAC have a good reputation.....a good clue to quality of a small compressor is where it's made...smaller italian made compressors are generally very good, albeit a little more pricey than generic Chinese models....you get what you pay for!
Thanks
I have just received my 'new' hyundai 24ltr......it was not new. Broken airflow gauge and all packets already torn open on delivery. It was meant to be collected for return today but no sign of the collection company and no reply to my emails. To say I'm unimpressed is an understatement!
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Did you buy the abac? Im thinking of buying one.please let me know if you did and if your happy with it..i had a cheap silent compressor..the motor only lasted a year so looking for something reliable
There's a video about it on my channel
@@RagnBoneBrown i tried to find that one?
Did sip give any indication when theirs are being released?
They told me some time in February👍
@@RagnBoneBrown possibly worth waiting a few weeks then?
Nice Blog Keith... I'll be waiting and watching for next update. I'm personally nowhere near needing a compressor yet, but I'm sure at some point I will so I interested very much in the out come this this. Just my 2p'z worth - out the two left... 2 year warranty looks favorable. I have a saying though! your only a customer until they have your money!! take care everyone, x
So true!
Luckily you dumped the Scheppach. Not that I have tried the Schappach compressor, but I have their planer-thicknesser, and it is a shamefully low quality product. All they have done is mark up the price on it. I know never is a very long time, but the chances of me ever bying another Scheppach product or recommending one is miniscule.
Great vid, by the way. And thanks for sharing.
Cheers Goran 👍
Have you added the Hyundai to your basket. There may be similar charges added?
There are no additional charges on the Hyundai
OK, shame. Back to the spreadsheet!
If you can source an old gas cyclinder you can easily add a connector and have a reserve tank. It also makes for a good portable rig by filling a small bbq size gas cyclinder for use with a nail gun or other small air use.
Cheers. Space is a bit of an issue ! 👍
I have the 25ltr Hyundai and have had no problems at all in a year of mostly nailing, dust-blowing and tyre-inflating. Quality feels good and it is really quiet - doesn't frighten the life out you if it cuts in while you're working. Sprayed a small area and coverage was good. There's a lot at stake and I respect your opinion so this is just my experience. Cheers.
Thank you!
Only SIP give the airflow stats in real world useable free air delivery. The other manufacturers give the airflow in how much air the pump puts into the tank. I've had a 25lt SIP compressor in the past and it was great for about 15 years and only gave up when I forgot to check the oil level and it seized up.
I've the Hush 150 and it's performed quite well. There's a review video on my channel.
-Ken
If it was priced in £ it should have known about the tax for the UK. This sort of stuff puts me off buying a particular product as I (rightly or wrongly) assume their customer care will be wanting.
Yeah it's pretty frustrating... 😒
@@RagnBoneBrown But trades can usually claim VAT back so often the VAT price isnt the right price in terms of what it is actually costing the tradesperson. Often sites will have a toggle to turn on/off VAT so Joe public and trades can see the price appropriate to them. It isnt usually reflective of the companies customer service but more reflective of their usual customer type, i.e. trade/public.
@@C4sp3r123 If you watch Andy Mac's YT channel, you can learn that the treshold for VAT registering is rather high. I'm not sure if Keith already reaches that level,
since he's started up full time only recently.
@@hansdegroot8549 For trades it isn't actually that high, £85,000 in 2020 is 'only' £1,635 a week in turnover which really isn't that much. My point was that if you are a tradesperson you don't really care about the price including VAT as that isn't ultimately what you are paying as you claim the VAT back so you want to know the Exc. VAT price. Hence why most websites that are predominately used by trades people show the Exc. VAT price and then add VAT as seems to be what happened with Keith in this video.
If you look at Screwfix for example, it has the option on their website to toggle VAT on or off at the top right of their site. It is on by default which to me indicates they mainly have retail customers use their site but trades people can easily switch to Exc. VAT.
I get Keith is unlikely at the moment to be VAT registered but I was aiming to explain why sites price their products like was seen in this video and to make the point in response to the original poster, Michael Kelly, that such pricing shouldn't be taken as a negative in terms of customer care, you could argue the opposite in that they are trying to make their websites as user friendly to the people who use it most. But you could then potentially think that the site is aimed at trade customers more than retail customers and as such may not be as good/use to customer service for retail customers.
@@C4sp3r123 I understand you. Further in this comment section (other thread) I had already written put a comment about advertising B2B or B2C.
Hi Keith I know them ABAC ones are good as my friend has 2 in his garage, he is a mechanic but does refurbish alloy wheels which is why he has 2. I did talk to him about them a good while back and he said nothing but good things about them (I have a workshop and want one some day) but I cant tell you anything about the Hyundai, hope that helps.
Thank you, very useful 👍
Don’t waste your time,14 c fm,is the ideal size for spraying, don’t forget to use a filter regulator to take the moisture out,15 x 40 inch air receiver is required ,
Any thoughts of getting an HVLP turbine sprayer instead?
Not something I know much about, but from the little research I've done (just now! 🤣) Looks to be a bit more money than I wish to spend. Thanks though 👍
Fair enough, I was lucky enough to get a small single stage one second hand for about $50 USD. Looks the the model I got is about $350 USD new.
www.rockler.com/earlex-spray-station-5500-with-15mm-fluid-tip-needle
Abac is a Professional brand and is Italian product, very good quality.
I'm late to your videos, but I am looking to buy a new Air Compressor and came across this review of Compressors.
Now I would like to find review of the Compressor you did purchase, but I can't find it, can you send me a link to the Compressor you did purchase please, to help me decide on my Compressor purchase. 👍
It's in the description box!
@@RagnBoneBrown Sorry but at the end of this video you said you're waiting for the delivery of your new Compressor, but I can't find the video of the Compressor you have chosen. You said it's in your description? So where do I find that the ? I am still no wiser on what you chose and whether it's any good at all. Please send me some link! 👍
@@RagnBoneBrown Sorry forget my new reply, I found which Compressor you chose, it's the one where you're spraying the door? Sorry for bothering you, I need to be more observant. 👍🙂👍
Mag kano po yan
If the priority is spraying get an HVLP unit and just use your current compressor for blowing.
Hvlp requires more CFM than any of the compressors I'm looking at are capable of
@@RagnBoneBrown By unit I mean a turbine system like Earlex, Apollo, Fuji, etc. Wouldn't be able to use those LVLP guns though.
NEVER Hyundai Keith. I am having very bad experience with the after sales service. They kept my machine 3 months in the warehouse and still have not seen it.
If it was my money i would get a normal compressor and build a cabinet to house it in as these quiet cheap ones dont seem to last ive had my clarke 24litre for 6 years now and its just as good as the day i got it plus with machine mart in the city any problems is a quick fix
Just my opinion take that as you see fit
I have an Abac 150 l 3hp (no silence version) for 4 year and no problems so far.
Hi there. Thank for sharing.
The Hyundai 50Ltr compressor isn't 11 CFM. It is fact 5.28 CFM. 11 CFM is probably piston displacement. Manufacturers should not be allowed to state anything but the FAD. ( Free Air Delivery ) Anything else is misleading. From your review anyone watching would believe that the Hyundai is 11 CFM when in reality it is less than half that @ 5.24 CFM. The real specification can be seen if you navigate to the Hyundai website and check the specification.
Get the Hyundai...They go to 11 :D
I know it's a late response but I couldn't resist the spinal tap reference. lol
Hi Keith , why noy an Atlas Copco ?
Because none of them fit my criteria?
Yes have done that left on over night , rest of the household were not impressed.
Done the same, live on a very built up residential estate, I'm guessing a lot of people around 2am on that day were trying to work out where/what the noise was.
Hate it when taxes aren't included in the advertised price!
Me too!!
@@RagnBoneBrown In many countries ads B2C must include the VAT, B2B may be without (but it even there it should be written excl. VAT).
Is this not the case in the UK?
@@hansdegroot8549 I don't know if it has to be but it normally is written as you suggest, excl. VAT
I would highly recommend you read the Google review feedback on the import company called Hyundai Power Products of Pembroke Docks. I bought a wood splitter from these muppets and was subjected to threats, abuse and awful accusations by their staff (including a director of the firm) when I tried to return the substandard pile of cr*p.
They are a dreadful company and it seems I am not the only one to think this...
Also trade under the name Genpower Ltd, so worth checking the reviews on Google Maps for that name too....