She's very beautiful and intelligent. She delivered it with good timing and with emotions that was there. Indeed, I was able to hold...and I was held, too.
Dear TED, Please continue to post TEDwomen talks... if for no other reason than to help me determine who among your viewers are ridiculous misogynists in hiding. I now have a long list of people I never have to waste a second of my time on.
life is a right, not collateral or casual. i will dance and resist and dance and persist and dance. profits made. prophets ignored. language cant math me, i experience exponentially, everything is everything. do not fear what has blown up. if you must, fear the unexploded. so many incredibly powerful gems written and spoken that are still relevant to today. the timelessness of palestinian literature is haunting. long live the resistance & may we all live to witness a free palestine
@bluefootedpig Celebrating women is not an attack on men, it is an acknowlegdment of the experiences of women, which so often get ignored. Of course men are special, people are special, but the experiences of some people get projected more than others, thats why its important to have a venue for women's voices to be heard.
the world wide angel with heavenly grace, all i want more of is smiles upon her face, too sweet to believe its her purity of beauty, her eyes tranquilize like honey brown ruby's, but even if she smiles for just 1 second, ill take it as victory and certainly accept it, forever i promise with no more words to use, too properly explain my understanding of you, unselfish love she spoke to me, i follow the truth i value the need, please god this time let it be real, for no more loneliness one ever can feel, our similar interests allow us to see, that together is power, just you... and... me...
I liked it. Well spoken., the start was great, and it ended the same way. Poetry is art and many cannot ,or refuse to ,understand it. I am niether ., I can not refuse to try and understand and enjoy.
@himansku I can respect that. I appreciate that you at least supported your opinion with reason. Her poem to me, is just more of an art piece, something to be appreciated but not to be taken too seriously.
TED is also about entertainment. That's what the E is for. Poetry is one form of entertainment, and I thought these poems were great. I don't get this whole mass of thumbing down any TEDWomen conference video. Yes, some are not very good, but I think most who thumb down are only thumbing down because they dislike the idea of TEDWomen. There are so many posts I want to respond to, but I don't have the energy to. Feminism is still relevant and many attitudes on these comments illustrate that.
I very much agree. It's not treating women as equal to have TEDwomen if there is no TEDmen(which there shouldn't be, I'm not advocating for that), it's treating them as a sort of disadvantaged group that need help because otherwise no one will want to listen. There should be more female speakers in the main TED and the other offshoots and another offshoot for discussions of gender and related prejudices and inequalities, in which the participation of both men and women is allowed and encouraged.
That's pretty close to my opinion. I actually think women are well represented on the main TED stage. There are a myriad of brilliant talks by women at every TED conference, often garnering the most interesting comment threads and highest views/likes. I would very much like to see a conference dedicated to a balanced discussion of gender equality and how we attain it across the world. Ideas for improving access to education and providing reliable protection from violence, interest me most.
Why do so many assume that if someone says women have specific strengths to bring to the table that this is "sexist" or "anti-man"? No one is advocating that men take a back seat or relinquish social or political power. That is anti-man. Rather, these videos tend to say that there is an imbalance of power, of thoughts and ideas caused by the absence of women in certain circles. That women's presence in academia, professional jobs, and public offices bring a new vitality of discourse.
"Colin Powell: Kids need structure" As soon as I read your post I remembered that talk's dislike bar. That was just off the top of my head, there are many other TED Talks with male speakers that have a worse like:dislike ratio, and many TED Talks with female speakers that have a better like:dislike ratio than this one. It does seem to be true that TED and its talk's viewers do not treat women as equal, but the that problem seems to be much less prevalent and severe than you make it out to be.
@lemonrind Really? Your taste in poetry is so cultivated that if anyone appreciates poetry that is not up to par with your standards, they appreciate shitty poetry. Many words come to mind but contemptuous sums up what you are to perfection.
@Riselikethetide TBH I never got why you'd want that in the first place. I'm only 18 but I still have to learn why you'd give up a fine life, watching your kids grow up for some crazy ambition.
@Riselikethetide I didn't say underprivileged in every area. I said women wanted to be equal in mainly the areas you mentioned, but then in areas like, oh the draft. I don't hear women complaining that they aren't required by law to register for a draft. Do you protest that too? or only the areas women are not equal? That is what I am referring to. In court cases, women get less sentences, in divorce women often come out better than the male. I don't hear women fighting for these inequalities.
@t3tsuyaguy1 Oh sure. "which male child will perish a new day, our boys deaths galvanise, we cherish corpses" my reading of this was an acknowledgment of males as death symbols in culture. We're expected to lay down our lives, to die for our families, for our countries. However its not the point of the poem, it is about women affected by violence and war and it's not an indictment of men. I like this because it IS a poem about women and war, it is not about blaming men. It blames humanity.
That their absence fetters further progress as conversations and debates grow stale. The underlying assumptions are that women tend to have a different way of thinking than men, and that diversity of thought will bring about creative solutions to problems. This can also be said of a hypothetical society in which men are historically repressed. Thus, there is nothing anti-man in these premises.
@GameDevMonkey Maybe we heard different poetry just now. I thought the first peace was beautiful. It seemed to say most, "I will not be your weapon." The second piece was little false for me. It seemed to say "Woman need to have courage to overcome the male war machine." The wars of this world are not the way they are because of men alone. Women do not embrace peace with any greater readiness than men. If you got a different message, I'd love to hear it. I'd rather like it.
@MrDarkbloom There is couple problems here. It's simply not true that every society we know about has treated women poorly, let alone as property. We know of several societies in history, which were matriarchal. There are extant African tribes with exclusively female leadership. Even many European cultures worshiped women, before the Catholic Church. You also can't "take a look around the world" to judge gender equality. It is at different stages in different places.
Women are equal? Just take a look at the dislike bar for this video. Then compare it to that of any other male TED speaker. Surely, not ALL of them are better than this speaker? Yet she is looked down upon because she is speaking about a topic that she is passionate about. A topic that men tire to hear of because that's all women talk about. That attitude of "just another women talking about inequality" is what remains to be a strong issue in our society.
Man, TEDWomen would be so much better if they showed women implementing programs to aid their cause, stuff like that. I realize the E is entertainment, but this certainly doesn't qualify as that. Instead of saying bad poetry, TEDWomen, try showing us active efforts. I'll bet you won't see the 'misogynist' comments you see here. We're fed up of bleeding hearts doing nothing but bitch and complain. DO SOMETHING, and you'll earn the world's respect;
@dissent104 You don't "process" truth "processing" truth is what people do when they're looking to bend a truth to fit in to their "world view" and turn it in to a lie. What is expressed in poetry is feeling and opinion, and it's done so in such an esoteric and piecemeal way that it doesn't give most people even most of the story. There are so much more eloquent and direct methods of expressing one's thoughts without resorting to hiding behind an obfusticating form of "language art".
@Jotto999 I would rather take this as art. It would be to much to ask for poetry and solutions. She expresses a view of the world which you don't have to share but it is nontheless good to hear.
cue the misogynist comments from insecure adolescent boys trapped in men's bodies that totally infect the comments whenever a woman appears on a TED video.
@highway234 I agree that trying to distance yourself from fools is not intellectually lazy. The way you went about it was not successful, in my case. From my point of view, you were standing right next to them. However, I join you in condemning people who call these women bitches and whores, instead of commenting the content of their talks. I may be so dismissive of those people, that I didn't consider them the target of you original comment.
i love how every upload that has anything remotely to do with women or feminisim (or even nothing) is considered bad. and people try to argue that women have complete equal standing in the first world... psh-ha!
@GameDevMonkey Hmmmm.....like a flaw in how we deal with conflict? I think I'm getting a picture. More of a challenge to see the lesser side in all of us, so that we can overcome it together. Interesting.
@Riselikethetide You mentioned that women are less than 25% of published journalists, would you mind specifying in what field? when you take something like engineering, and only 20% graduating are female, then a 25% publish rate means more women are being published than men. And if published means engineering phds, then your rate is only around 17%. I really do wonder though, where do you get your numbers?
@reafdaw01 Not necessarily solutions, but art has messages, and it does reveal about the artist. I disagree with the messages. They seem to be of the variety where you must be a little naive or shortsighted to assert them. If you enjoyed her poetry, then that's fine, all I'm saying is that I didn't, even though she does have a nice skill with words.
This was quite awesome! It's going to get a LOT of hate though which is unfair. It gets a thumbs up from me anyway. Don't get me wrong I've some lambasted TEDWomen videos for hijacking important issues for gender politics, reducing them to laughably simplistic concepts or just plain old misandry, and I stand by those comments, but this will get undue criticism. Not everyone who criticises TEDWomen is a misogynist and not every TEDWomen video about women's issues has a misandric punch line!
I wonder how many thumbs down votes are american? All? Hm... In all cultures poets where respected as seers. Once. Before you flame me when was the last time you bought or even read a poem? Fear the unexploded. I agree. Xxx
@LiberaLib You have me all wrong. Kudos on your restraint, because someone arguing that there is no such thing as sexism would be the worthy target of a lot of anger. I am arguing that many of these woman ARE sexist. Just as intelligence does not have a gender, sexism does not have a gender. Women are just as capable of baseless sexism towards men as men are towards women. Some of these women are. "Switching the pronouns" is meant to illuminate how sexist some of their statements are.
This is a really sad bunch of comments. How is this misandry? Is it because she never really mentions men at all? How many male TED speakers have gone through their entire talk without using a single feminine pronoun? Is that an example of sexism? Is that an example of sexism deserving a huge avalanche of negativity like the ones found on virtually every talk from TEDwomen?
and to protect the women in need to get the rights that they all need to let them live in a free world sometimes we need to drop bombs and go to war war can infact be a good thing ... war is something we dont want to do but it is sometimes the only way
@MistressSerenity Sorry. That's just bullshit. Take a look at Liza Donnelly, or Cynthia Breazell, or Ali Char-Chellman. Examine their like/dislike ratio if you please. She isn't being attacked because she is talking about equality. She is getting thumbs down, because they don't like her poems. TEDwomen isn't getting a massive hate-on because "Men" are tired of "just another women talking about inequality". It's because those of us who believe in equality are tired of being talked down to.
@freemefromiowa Well, if you watch TED, many of these women blame men for many things. Men are more risky which lead to the economic collapse was one TEDWomen talk. There are many others, where women blame men for wars, economic collapse, oppression, and many other things. The main complaint among TED viewers is that we like innovation and solutions. Blaming, or just pointing out a problem is pointless. How did this poem in anyway offer a solution to our any problem?
@Nightriser271828 The problem isn't that they are showing the problem, but just that. They are only showing the problem. Yes we know there are inequalities, this is common knowledge at this point, at least among TED viewers. We like solutions. The men, although not always, tend to offer solutions, or projects they are working on, or new research about why it happens. Just pointing it out does nothing. Its like raising child abuse awareness, we already know it is bad, no awareness needed.
War isn't all that bad. If you live with the thought of a war-free world you live in an illusion. And do you strive for a war-free world you're striving for an illusion. Nice poem though.
Good poetry, unfortunately for some reason as a male I have the natural urge to hit the 'dislike' button because it is poetry and a female on TED... I 'liked' it though.
Dear Ms sour nickers I'll admit as a guy I'm crap and you women are great ! so please please can we have our old TED back ,I surrender at bad poetry ,please make the poetry stop.
@highway234 You see, you made a blanket assertion that anti-woman videos aren't hard to find, on youtube. I found this a little irrelevant, since anti-woman videos ARE hard to find on the TEDtalksdirector channel. I pointed this out to you. I then pointed out to you, what I see as sexism permeating TEDwomen. Your demand of a timecoded quote mine does not in anyway reverse the lazy thinking of your original statement. If you're convinced by that sort of tripe, then you're welcome to it.
@ 3:27 Holy fuck a guy! Fuck what the hell is going on?! I thought they went extinct during the great boxing wars of superbowl cheetohs! All jokes aside, I am neutral to the pacifist stance. I understand that violence is necessary in many instances, but we need to be careful. More people need a "violence is wrong" mindset, and that need a larger nation overpowering a smaller one and giving it a stable government.
She is lucky that she doesn't HAVE to march to the war drum. It's only young men that are conscripted, taken violently from their home and physically and emotionally beaten until they are sent out to die screaming in a foreign field. Thatcher, Mier, Gahndi all women who used male only conscription. This is so self-centered it's offensive.
@MistressSerenity I don't know about the other people who disliked this video, but I disliked it because it is bad poetry, not because of the subject matter.
I'm not sure when TED started it's feminism phase, but it's getting old quick. I'll grant you that being treated unequally is not fair. But writing a poem about it isn't going to do jack. If women are motivated to join the workforce and make something of themselves, that's great, their struggle is noble. But don't keep looking backwards at the ones that don't make something of themselves, pining for them to represent the demographic in a more positive light. Leave the deadbeats behind.
This is hard to understand. I don’t know what the fck she means by any of this. Too much fancy word choice. She should have been straight to the point.
I dislike this. Indeed, this rhetoric is passionate and appeals to our emotions very well. But behind it I see a very skewed view of the world. A male war machine, where sprinkling estrogen on the government buildings of the world causes war to vanish, and middle/upper class people can stop it by feeling pacifistic. I do not see beauty in this view. I see simplistic and misleading rhetoric, too vague to have substance. How about we discuss real causes of war, like poverty?
This isn't a bad video because of what her subject matter, it's bad because it's shitty poetry. Plain and simple. Read Woolstonecraft or Plath or Sexton or Barbauld or H.D., but please don't complain about bias when she's just a bad poet.
@highway234 Im not pro male or pro female...Id rather watch videos of new creative ideas, adventurers life stories, or technology that can better our society...Not some crazy voodoo woman and her poem using big words to sound important and deep.
TED Women? Wow, I lost a whole lot of respect after seeing that. What's next? TED Black, Disabled TED, TED Turner Commuinications Corp. Why not just stick to the original TED with no special target or interest group and just people who want to see other amazing people talk?
@highway234 You are asking me to engage in a kind of debate I find childish and intellectually dishonest. Watch each of the TEDwomen videos in their entirety. Ask yourself honestly if you would accept these talks if the gender pro-nouns were reversed. If, after that, you still think TEDwomen is a good thing, then that's your opinion. If however, you think pointing out that this woman didn't use the words "the problem is men" invalidates my argument, then you are not a very thorough thinker.
Suheir you are an inspiring speaker and the language of your words are jaw-dropping.
I used to watch this when I was studying in college. I can't believe it's been 10 years.. feels like yesterday!!!
I always come back to this poem thank you ❤
She's very beautiful and intelligent. She delivered it with good timing and with emotions that was there. Indeed, I was able to hold...and I was held, too.
I would love to see her! I wish she was at the TED Talk I was performing at!!!!
"before form, I was storm"
"don't look for a shadow behind me, i carry it within"
Great stuff, thumbs up, and yeah, I'm male THE END IS NEAR :-o
Dear TED,
Please continue to post TEDwomen talks... if for no other reason than to help me determine who among your viewers are ridiculous misogynists in hiding. I now have a long list of people I never have to waste a second of my time on.
life is a right, not collateral or casual.
i will dance and resist and dance and persist and dance.
profits made. prophets ignored.
language cant math me, i experience exponentially, everything is everything.
do not fear what has blown up. if you must, fear the unexploded.
so many incredibly powerful gems written and spoken that are still relevant to today. the timelessness of palestinian literature is haunting. long live the resistance & may we all live to witness a free palestine
She has a beautiful soul and a golden heart. And that makes her even more beautiful.
@bluefootedpig Celebrating women is not an attack on men, it is an acknowlegdment of the experiences of women, which so often get ignored. Of course men are special, people are special, but the experiences of some people get projected more than others, thats why its important to have a venue for women's voices to be heard.
she speaks with so much cool
the world wide angel with heavenly grace, all i want more of is smiles upon her face, too sweet to believe its her purity of beauty, her eyes tranquilize like honey brown ruby's, but even if she smiles for just 1 second, ill take it as victory and certainly accept it, forever i promise with no more words to use, too properly explain my understanding of you, unselfish love she spoke to me, i follow the truth i value the need, please god this time let it be real, for no more loneliness one ever can feel, our similar interests allow us to see, that together is power, just you... and... me...
love this poem. I cried. Expresses me deep feelings. thank you.
The Light! The One !
I liked it. Well spoken., the start was great, and it ended the same way. Poetry is art and many cannot ,or refuse to ,understand it. I am niether ., I can not refuse to try and understand and enjoy.
people, stop hating. this women is beautiful. this is true spoken word.
Heartfelt, Honest Powerful Thank you!
Shes wonderful!!!
@himansku I can respect that. I appreciate that you at least supported your opinion with reason. Her poem to me, is just more of an art piece, something to be appreciated but not to be taken too seriously.
truth usually encites a response like yours.
World Poetry of Peace. English Poetry with Tegal Dialect . Only in Guru Bangsa Chanel
TED is also about entertainment. That's what the E is for. Poetry is one form of entertainment, and I thought these poems were great. I don't get this whole mass of thumbing down any TEDWomen conference video. Yes, some are not very good, but I think most who thumb down are only thumbing down because they dislike the idea of TEDWomen. There are so many posts I want to respond to, but I don't have the energy to. Feminism is still relevant and many attitudes on these comments illustrate that.
I very much agree. It's not treating women as equal to have TEDwomen if there is no TEDmen(which there shouldn't be, I'm not advocating for that), it's treating them as a sort of disadvantaged group that need help because otherwise no one will want to listen. There should be more female speakers in the main TED and the other offshoots and another offshoot for discussions of gender and related prejudices and inequalities, in which the participation of both men and women is allowed and encouraged.
That's pretty close to my opinion.
I actually think women are well represented on the main TED stage. There are a myriad of brilliant talks by women at every TED conference, often garnering the most interesting comment threads and highest views/likes.
I would very much like to see a conference dedicated to a balanced discussion of gender equality and how we attain it across the world. Ideas for improving access to education and providing reliable protection from violence, interest me most.
I love her and I loved her performance.
Does anybody know what happened to Suheir? She has lost so much weight
powerful words
Why do so many assume that if someone says women have specific strengths to bring to the table that this is "sexist" or "anti-man"? No one is advocating that men take a back seat or relinquish social or political power. That is anti-man. Rather, these videos tend to say that there is an imbalance of power, of thoughts and ideas caused by the absence of women in certain circles. That women's presence in academia, professional jobs, and public offices bring a new vitality of discourse.
This remains relevant
Powerful!
"Colin Powell: Kids need structure"
As soon as I read your post I remembered that talk's dislike bar. That was just off the top of my head, there are many other TED Talks with male speakers that have a worse like:dislike ratio, and many TED Talks with female speakers that have a better like:dislike ratio than this one. It does seem to be true that TED and its talk's viewers do not treat women as equal, but the that problem seems to be much less prevalent and severe than you make it out to be.
Ojalá alguien lo traduzca y lo subtitule al español.
Cuando entras a la página de TED talks online, cuando encuentres y abras el video, puedes elegir los subtítulos 🥰
@@lo3506 muchas gracias
@himansku really? what didn't you like about it? I'm intrigued.
@lemonrind Really? Your taste in poetry is so cultivated that if anyone appreciates poetry that is not up to par with your standards, they appreciate shitty poetry. Many words come to mind but contemptuous sums up what you are to perfection.
Powerful and beautiful 🥰
it started legit, but went bad quickly!
2:36 here now. Sorry. I’ve been busy. Can anyone tell me if prawns feel pain?
did she just call out all of TED ??
3:23 ohhh shit, what did I just sign up for.
Counting bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drums*
@Riselikethetide TBH I never got why you'd want that in the first place. I'm only 18 but I still have to learn why you'd give up a fine life, watching your kids grow up for some crazy ambition.
@Riselikethetide I didn't say underprivileged in every area. I said women wanted to be equal in mainly the areas you mentioned, but then in areas like, oh the draft. I don't hear women complaining that they aren't required by law to register for a draft. Do you protest that too? or only the areas women are not equal? That is what I am referring to. In court cases, women get less sentences, in divorce women often come out better than the male. I don't hear women fighting for these inequalities.
Amazing my poetry Teacher showed me it Enjoy Thugg 3
I didn't feel she was being anti-man. I think she just likes poetry.
@t3tsuyaguy1 Oh sure. "which male child will perish a new day, our boys deaths galvanise, we cherish corpses" my reading of this was an acknowledgment of males as death symbols in culture. We're expected to lay down our lives, to die for our families, for our countries. However its not the point of the poem, it is about women affected by violence and war and it's not an indictment of men. I like this because it IS a poem about women and war, it is not about blaming men. It blames humanity.
That their absence fetters further progress as conversations and debates grow stale. The underlying assumptions are that women tend to have a different way of thinking than men, and that diversity of thought will bring about creative solutions to problems. This can also be said of a hypothetical society in which men are historically repressed. Thus, there is nothing anti-man in these premises.
@GameDevMonkey Maybe we heard different poetry just now. I thought the first peace was beautiful. It seemed to say most, "I will not be your weapon."
The second piece was little false for me. It seemed to say "Woman need to have courage to overcome the male war machine." The wars of this world are not the way they are because of men alone. Women do not embrace peace with any greater readiness than men.
If you got a different message, I'd love to hear it. I'd rather like it.
@MrDarkbloom There is couple problems here. It's simply not true that every society we know about has treated women poorly, let alone as property. We know of several societies in history, which were matriarchal. There are extant African tribes with exclusively female leadership. Even many European cultures worshiped women, before the Catholic Church.
You also can't "take a look around the world" to judge gender equality. It is at different stages in different places.
Women are equal? Just take a look at the dislike bar for this video. Then compare it to that of any other male TED speaker. Surely, not ALL of them are better than this speaker? Yet she is looked down upon because she is speaking about a topic that she is passionate about. A topic that men tire to hear of because that's all women talk about. That attitude of "just another women talking about inequality" is what remains to be a strong issue in our society.
Man, TEDWomen would be so much better if they showed women implementing programs to aid their cause, stuff like that. I realize the E is entertainment, but this certainly doesn't qualify as that. Instead of saying bad poetry, TEDWomen, try showing us active efforts. I'll bet you won't see the 'misogynist' comments you see here. We're fed up of bleeding hearts doing nothing but bitch and complain. DO SOMETHING, and you'll earn the world's respect;
Is the blond woman with short hair in the audience the chick from So You Think You Can Dance?
@dissent104 You don't "process" truth "processing" truth is what people do when they're looking to bend a truth to fit in to their "world view" and turn it in to a lie. What is expressed in poetry is feeling and opinion, and it's done so in such an esoteric and piecemeal way that it doesn't give most people even most of the story. There are so much more eloquent and direct methods of expressing one's thoughts without resorting to hiding behind an obfusticating form of "language art".
@Jotto999 I would rather take this as art. It would be to much to ask for poetry and solutions. She expresses a view of the world which you don't have to share but it is nontheless good to hear.
cue the misogynist comments from insecure adolescent boys trapped in men's bodies that totally infect the comments whenever a woman appears on a TED video.
@highway234 I agree that trying to distance yourself from fools is not intellectually lazy. The way you went about it was not successful, in my case. From my point of view, you were standing right next to them.
However, I join you in condemning people who call these women bitches and whores, instead of commenting the content of their talks. I may be so dismissive of those people, that I didn't consider them the target of you original comment.
i love how every upload that has anything remotely to do with women or feminisim (or even nothing) is considered bad. and people try to argue that women have complete equal standing in the first world... psh-ha!
So when is TEDMen going to be on? or does TED only support women as being special?
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@xXBarbeloXx well said..
@bluefootedpig TEDMen? Oh, wait, hasn't that been the past few millennia? Of course, I'm speaking metaphorically.
the dislike bar is big because she's a Palestinian not because of sexists
@t3tsuyaguy1 please show me exactly where she said "the problem is men." i'm gonna need an exact time code.
@GameDevMonkey Hmmmm.....like a flaw in how we deal with conflict? I think I'm getting a picture. More of a challenge to see the lesser side in all of us, so that we can overcome it together. Interesting.
@Riselikethetide You mentioned that women are less than 25% of published journalists, would you mind specifying in what field? when you take something like engineering, and only 20% graduating are female, then a 25% publish rate means more women are being published than men. And if published means engineering phds, then your rate is only around 17%. I really do wonder though, where do you get your numbers?
@reafdaw01 Not necessarily solutions, but art has messages, and it does reveal about the artist. I disagree with the messages. They seem to be of the variety where you must be a little naive or shortsighted to assert them. If you enjoyed her poetry, then that's fine, all I'm saying is that I didn't, even though she does have a nice skill with words.
This was quite awesome! It's going to get a LOT of hate though which is unfair. It gets a thumbs up from me anyway.
Don't get me wrong I've some lambasted TEDWomen videos for hijacking important issues for gender politics, reducing them to laughably simplistic concepts or just plain old misandry, and I stand by those comments, but this will get undue criticism. Not everyone who criticises TEDWomen is a misogynist and not every TEDWomen video about women's issues has a misandric punch line!
I wonder how many thumbs down votes are american? All? Hm...
In all cultures poets where respected as seers. Once. Before you flame me when was the last time you bought or even read a poem?
Fear the unexploded. I agree.
Xxx
'fear the unexploded'? is that a threat?
@LiberaLib You have me all wrong. Kudos on your restraint, because someone arguing that there is no such thing as sexism would be the worthy target of a lot of anger.
I am arguing that many of these woman ARE sexist. Just as intelligence does not have a gender, sexism does not have a gender. Women are just as capable of baseless sexism towards men as men are towards women. Some of these women are.
"Switching the pronouns" is meant to illuminate how sexist some of their statements are.
This is a really sad bunch of comments. How is this misandry? Is it because she never really mentions men at all? How many male TED speakers have gone through their entire talk without using a single feminine pronoun? Is that an example of sexism? Is that an example of sexism deserving a huge avalanche of negativity like the ones found on virtually every talk from TEDwomen?
and to protect the women in need to get the rights that they all need to let them live in a free world sometimes we need to drop bombs and go to war
war can infact be a good thing ... war is something we dont want to do but it is sometimes the only way
@MistressSerenity Sorry. That's just bullshit. Take a look at Liza Donnelly, or Cynthia Breazell, or Ali Char-Chellman. Examine their like/dislike ratio if you please.
She isn't being attacked because she is talking about equality. She is getting thumbs down, because they don't like her poems.
TEDwomen isn't getting a massive hate-on because "Men" are tired of "just another women talking about inequality". It's because those of us who believe in equality are tired of being talked down to.
@freemefromiowa Well, if you watch TED, many of these women blame men for many things. Men are more risky which lead to the economic collapse was one TEDWomen talk. There are many others, where women blame men for wars, economic collapse, oppression, and many other things.
The main complaint among TED viewers is that we like innovation and solutions. Blaming, or just pointing out a problem is pointless. How did this poem in anyway offer a solution to our any problem?
@Nightriser271828 The problem isn't that they are showing the problem, but just that. They are only showing the problem. Yes we know there are inequalities, this is common knowledge at this point, at least among TED viewers. We like solutions. The men, although not always, tend to offer solutions, or projects they are working on, or new research about why it happens. Just pointing it out does nothing. Its like raising child abuse awareness, we already know it is bad, no awareness needed.
War isn't all that bad. If you live with the thought of a war-free world you live in an illusion. And do you strive for a war-free world you're striving for an illusion. Nice poem though.
Good poetry, unfortunately for some reason as a male I have the natural urge to hit the 'dislike' button because it is poetry and a female on TED... I 'liked' it though.
Dear Ms sour nickers
I'll admit as a guy I'm crap and you women are great ! so please please can we have our old TED back ,I surrender at bad poetry ,please make the poetry stop.
i have a feeling about 70 percent of the audience doesnt even enjoy this but they just support it because they're a woman
ok...
@highway234 You see, you made a blanket assertion that anti-woman videos aren't hard to find, on youtube. I found this a little irrelevant, since anti-woman videos ARE hard to find on the TEDtalksdirector channel. I pointed this out to you. I then pointed out to you, what I see as sexism permeating TEDwomen.
Your demand of a timecoded quote mine does not in anyway reverse the lazy thinking of your original statement. If you're convinced by that sort of tripe, then you're welcome to it.
@ 3:27 Holy fuck a guy! Fuck what the hell is going on?! I thought they went extinct during the great boxing wars of superbowl cheetohs!
All jokes aside, I am neutral to the pacifist stance. I understand that violence is necessary in many instances, but we need to be careful. More people need a "violence is wrong" mindset, and that need a larger nation overpowering a smaller one and giving it a stable government.
@LiberaLib Sexism is very real, and one of the most destructive forces in our history. It must be opposed, regardless of the perpetrator's gender.
She is lucky that she doesn't HAVE to march to the war drum. It's only young men that are conscripted, taken violently from their home and physically and emotionally beaten until they are sent out to die screaming in a foreign field. Thatcher, Mier, Gahndi all women who used male only conscription. This is so self-centered it's offensive.
This is silly....
They are only subsidising themselves by having a TEDwomen....
@MistressSerenity I don't know about the other people who disliked this video, but I disliked it because it is bad poetry, not because of the subject matter.
@tantzer Yo dats IGNANT... yo
I'm not sure when TED started it's feminism phase, but it's getting old quick. I'll grant you that being treated unequally is not fair. But writing a poem about it isn't going to do jack. If women are motivated to join the workforce and make something of themselves, that's great, their struggle is noble. But don't keep looking backwards at the ones that don't make something of themselves, pining for them to represent the demographic in a more positive light. Leave the deadbeats behind.
HAHA! hell no do you think i can meet the same girl everyday?
No, im not that arab man! xDDDDD
ted talks = chick fest.
nice, but someone should tell her about Invisalign
This is hard to understand. I don’t know what the fck she means by any of this. Too much fancy word choice. She should have been straight to the point.
@LiberaLib Try re-reading my comments. I don't think you're paying very much attention. I think you are just interested in being indignant.
I dislike this. Indeed, this rhetoric is passionate and appeals to our emotions very well. But behind it I see a very skewed view of the world. A male war machine, where sprinkling estrogen on the government buildings of the world causes war to vanish, and middle/upper class people can stop it by feeling pacifistic.
I do not see beauty in this view. I see simplistic and misleading rhetoric, too vague to have substance. How about we discuss real causes of war, like poverty?
This isn't a bad video because of what her subject matter, it's bad because it's shitty poetry. Plain and simple. Read Woolstonecraft or Plath or Sexton or Barbauld or H.D., but please don't complain about bias when she's just a bad poet.
im sorry but its lame what is she trying to read out loud alot of our sociaty problems? ...or did i missunderstand something ? ....
@jackstorm777 What about this was sexist? Sure TEDwomen smells of sexism but where is it in this presentation?
@highway234 Im not pro male or pro female...Id rather watch videos of new creative ideas, adventurers life stories, or technology that can better our society...Not some crazy voodoo woman and her poem using big words to sound important and deep.
TED Women? Wow, I lost a whole lot of respect after seeing that. What's next? TED Black, Disabled TED, TED Turner Commuinications Corp. Why not just stick to the original TED with no special target or interest group and just people who want to see other amazing people talk?
it started legit, but went bad quickly!
p.s. its not that TED cant find good women speakers /poets. its that no one with a brain would be a feminist!
you dont have to dance to the war drum because you dont have to sign up for the draft
@highway234 You are asking me to engage in a kind of debate I find childish and intellectually dishonest.
Watch each of the TEDwomen videos in their entirety. Ask yourself honestly if you would accept these talks if the gender pro-nouns were reversed. If, after that, you still think TEDwomen is a good thing, then that's your opinion.
If however, you think pointing out that this woman didn't use the words "the problem is men" invalidates my argument, then you are not a very thorough thinker.