If ya really wanna have fun just take the handles apart from both reels and most *importantly take the grips off * when you take the grips off pull the bearings out(see for your self).... between the reels .....does it really matter ? you guys decide ..( for me, i thought it was cool to see the diff. ) P.S I love both the reels,But for me just my opinion i like the Kastking better. Thx and tight lines !
I spooled it with 8 LB test mono for lighter lures, gave it some practice casts and found that it did cast well ruclips.net/user/postUgkxSlytCJqozTF7EbdP4LWP-HUXf9WRDJ0e , except that the anti-backlash setting had to be turned up almost all of the way to keep the "overcasts' ' down. I disassembled it, and found that if I potted some "shim washers" behind that anti-backlash magnet assembly, it got the magnets closer to the spool without rubbing, and I could get better control with about a 6 to 7 out out 10-Max setting. I also noticed that the handle shaft had some internal end play, maybe only 2 or 3 thousands of an inch, but it's still noticeable. If the anti-backlash and shaft tolerances were "tightened up" this would be a fantastic value. I've only used it for 4 days of fishing in a month's time, but I plan on keeping it.
The fact the Torrent casts better than the Royale with half the bearings speaks for Piscifun in general. I own 6 Torrents and am having a hard time using any other reel. Piscifun is the real King.
have a torrent got it when they first appeared I live in Florida have caught over 50 Spanish Mack’s already on this real plus a few doll head shark great drag capability I am 70 years old have fished penn Reels all my life hard to believe the quality of these reels thank you for great video
Here is my experience - I went with the Piscifun for my first baitcaster because of this video. Out of the box and in the yard practicing, it was beyond my expectations. I was thrilled. Then I took it fishing. First two trips out, again, I loved it and was agreeing with all the hype about it performing like a reel that cost $100 or more. After the third trip, the retrieve became really rough, and dull grinding noise developed. Mind you, I performed maintenance on this reel after each use. After the noise developed, I stripped it down and tried greasing and oiling everything. Still was rough and noisy. Luckily I was still within the return period for Amazon. I swapped it out for the KastKing. So far, the KastKing to me feels about the same as the Piscifun did. It is the durability that I am concerned about, with any $40 reel. Not too hard to make a reel look and feel good for the first 100 casts. But the Piscifun, at least in my experience, broke down quickly. Time will tell if the KastKing is any better.
Bought my 12 year old son and myself the Piscifun this summer. We both love them. Super smooth and casts very easy. My 12 year old can out cast me with his, often cast plastics without any added weight. He cast with great distance with light or heavy lures
I have the Torrent myself and for a reel made by child laborers in China I have been pleasantly pleased with the Torrent. Compared to a higher priced Piscifun and my $160 Abu reel, the Torrent is right there with both of them.
Bought the piscifun torrent and it feels like a $200 baitcaster. The brakes are excellent, the clicking spool tensioner and the oversized handle makes it an awesome reel. Going to buy another one and pair it with the kastking royale legend rod. Cant wait to get it.
Good honest review. I have not used the Piscifun reels, but I do actually own the Royale Legend reel and that was the first baitcaster from KastKing I ever bought from them. That was about 2 1/2 years ago and even using it a few times inshore to catch flounder (of course after saltwater use a good cleaning is required) is still like new. As far as casting the Legend it can be a little bit tricky to cast if not set up properly. But once you get it dialed in it casts like a dream. Tip for you, pop the left side plate off push in switches 1 & 3 to the center, put the side plate back on and turn your outer brake to about 8 or 8.5 and then set your tension control knob to the bait you are using and that should have you casting a lot better.
This is one of the things I like about the KastKing. Although it takes a little longer to dial in, it is nice to have that option. I have 2 and 4 on the centrifugal pushed in, and set the outer brake to 8. Using 35 lb braid, I have no issues with backlashes at all.
I own the Kastking. Awesome baitcast reels. Virtually backlash free once you set the brakes properly. In fact my speed demon won't backlash even with the brakes ignored. It's like using a spincast. More importantly the company was started by 2 guys from Syracuse University in NY so let's give some American entrepreneurs some love. Especially my fellow NY'ers!
I have used many expensive reels such as my Pfluger Patriarc ($200) and Shimano Curado ($180) and the Piscifun Torrent still out preforms them. The Pfluger and Shimano are good reels but dang, I don't know how Piscifun does it. Their reels are amazing.I dare you to cast one! They cast nearly the entire spool! When the bass are schooling and you want to stay back, cast a Piscifun as far as you want. The bearings are rediculously smooth. Like REALLY smooth. Go grab you a Piscifun reel. They are cheap, real cheap. Like I've spent more money on a 300yrd spool of fishing line then I have on their reals. Trust me you will not be disappointed!
Where do i begin. All around i love the torrent reel. the castability is off the charts. eatch cast is smooth and i can cast my frog super far without putting a lot of power into a cast. its built tuff and durable.
I've got both reels and I agree with you, the Piscifun is the better reel. The no. 1 reason for my choice is the "oil" port on the PCF. I fish salt water and that ability to lubricate the reel without having to dismantle it is a big deal for me. And you're right, it has a better, smoother cast.
I'll start out, I have owned a Kastking centron, and a Piscifun Torrent, as well as an Ardent Apex Grand. Although the Centron is a spin caster, let's start with the build quality, at a 30 dollar reel you can't expect much but when you have a fish on the other side of the reel. You can feel where the reel seems like it wants to fall apart the handle is made of a cheap plastic that bends and flexes. Going to the Ardent Apex Grand the most expensive reel a $220 baitcasting reel , with 12+1 Ball bearing and a 12lb drag. From day one of ownership I have had issues with the reel from the reel getting shipped without a tensioner to bad spools. Comparing that to a 40 dollar Piscifun torrent, you'd expect the expensive reel to outcast and out perform the 40 dollar reel by 10 fold. After owning the Ardent since March of 2017 and the Torrent since October of 2017, putting the reels side by side the piscifun outperforms the apex grand hands down. After the great experince with the Piscifun I'd defently not only reccomend them to friends but I'd spend more money on their reels
Haven't used either but would like to remind folks that a faster reel is not always better. It all depends on how you plan to fish it and with which baits.
also ball bearing count..if the bearings are placed correctly and support the gears / pinion/ structurally..you don't need as many..this 10-13 bearings all over the place just adds cost and complexity..more fail points..some pro told me anything over 8 is very excessive..i'm not a pro, but can grasp what he is saying..2 ball bearings in the handle end--just to get the count up..crazy..lol
Never had a bait caster but going to try the piscifun for the first time . Hey don't bash the guy for his hair style (said in the comments ) he is a die hard fisherman. It's a great community to belong to.
I'm new to baitcasting. I owned a reel years ago and couldn't figure it out. I'm ready to try again after 20 years. Thank you for your video. I think I will get the Piscifun via Amazon. The oil port is why. I will let you know how I do later.
Thanks for your comment. I am about to buy either a Piscifun or Katking from Aliexpress and was not sure which one to buy. I am thinking Piscifun phantom but i am not sure which model to buy. Here in South Africa i fish farmdams mostly with a lot of grass so i think the phanton will do it for me. I am just worried if it will last.
Your videos are always awesome. I picked up the torrent and wouldn’t have even given it a try if it weren’t for this video. Thank you so much I am loving it
Lojo.fishing, I have 4 AbuGarcia, 1 Shimano caius 201 and 1 Piscifun Torrent and in my opinion Torrent is really really good, and I dont say “for the price only”.... is a good real for fishing all the time... I waiting the second one, with this guy Abu-BlackMax is history. Thanks for your videos...
Most of my life I've been an Abu Garcia fan since 40 years ago, I was never satisfied with Shimano and Daiwa reels performance. When the phantom came up to the market I was hesitating about geting it. First tought was it may be a good backup reel. After watching your video I decided to go for it. Once in my hands I was really surprised, the look, the quality, the lightnes, the performance, I understand that the ball-bearings are Japan made. And is so cheap! It's my first chinese reel and I'm so happy with it! I only hope it lasts as much as my abus. Thanks for your advise!
I don’t have any problems with my KastKing reels on normal use, they work fantastic. They only way I’ve ever had problems with them is after abusing them like dipping them in mud (that’s a no brainer, you’d shouldn’t do that with any reel). You should review a piscifun vs KastKing spinning reel
I just received my torrent today and was comparing the same two reels on Amazon last night. I chose the piscifun. It seems to be sturdy and well made. Can't wait to try it out. Thanks for the video. You have a new subscriber.
I just bought a piscifun torrent last week and I've used it about 3 times out in the boat but I don't use it for bass I use it for my top water setup for specks and reds inshore and it has worked really well so far it cast smooth and the drag is pretty smooth but I don't know how long it will last but I really like it so far it casts just as good as my revo my orra inshore and my casitas. I recommend it
Have 2 of the Piscifun Torrents , have used one for salt water and the other for fresh, both are doing great. Very smooth with no problems. The salt water one went thru Harvey and is still working ok. Have two Kastkings , one is the 9.1-3 and I have a problem with the release button . Not that happy with either one of them.
I'm very late to this post since i just started looking for a new baitcaster. Will you share how are these piscifun reels holding after several months of use? I was actually looking for a piscifun phantom and ended up in this review. I will use the reel exclusively in salt water, just like you.
Bearing count has no effect on casting performance. There's only 2-3 bearings on the spool, depending on the reel design. Those arw the only ones that affect casting.
lojo.fishing Whether there's 4+1 or 11+1 only 3 touch the spool shaft. All of the others don't turn during a cast. There's a few exceptions with reels that have a bushing replacing one of the spool shaft bearings. Also some that have a shorter spool shaft, so only two. Also of note, I just bought a piscifun phantom, and the inside diameter of the bearing under the cast control cap is larger than the shaft so the shaft just spins inside it without contacting the bearing.
The bearing placement has more to do with the overall performance and stability and smoothness of the reel the more bearings one has makes the reel more stable for the long run over time my other reels with less bearings get sloppy on performance while my reels with more bearings stays smooth longer over time you will find that out.
I own then both and I find that the Piscfun cast better, but when it comes to backlashes. The Kastking backlash is less often and there much easier to get out compared to Piscfun. Sorry but I love all my Kastking products I like Piscfun too. I just like Kastking more over all even over my Diawa reels.
I love my Piscifuns. Pf-1400 sl20 destroyer and my two torrents. I love the torrent for the price. And i love the long extended handle for the torque. I love the casting also. Glad to hear it!
i have the picifisun torrent with picifisun branded braided 35lb line, cast pretty good. I tend to get an average of 50 to 60 yard casts from the pier with a 3 ounce lure or lead.
Guys, i bought the Piscifun Phantom and carbon xcs casting reel. Absolutely stunning reels from Piscifun. I love both reels and fish them all the time. The carbon xcs is even smoother than my Shimano casting reels. You cannot go wrong for the money you pay for them.
I can't speak to the quality of the KastKing. I had looked at buying one but they don't ship to Canada from their store and they are overpriced on Amazon.ca. I bought a Piscifun Torrent instead and I'm really happy with the purchase. It is not just a great baitcaster for the price, it is a great reel period. I also own a Shimano Curado I-series that cost almost 5x what the Piscifun sells for and the Torrent casts just as far and is just as smooth. I don't have any backlash problems, drag works well. BUY ONE BEFORE THEY RAISE THE PRICE!!
Cool video. I was given the Kastking Royale Legend for my *cough* 50th birthday... This is my first baitcasting reel and the first non-spin cast reel since I was given a Zebco 202 for a MUCH earlier birthday. While I really don't have anything to compare it to, I've had fun working on getting it to cast without birdnesting. Varying success! Long story short, I like it! It's a much different feel than a spinning reel.
Owned both of them, ended up returning the Kastking Stealth for a refund cause didn’t like it. I still own the Piscifun and now that I paired it with a Piscifun Torrent Rod its like a match made in heaven! Without bashing Kastking cause i own the KK Assasin and I Love it, this Piscifun reel is a beast!! I have pulled 5-6lbs LM Bass with no problem with this reel. Dragging hasn’t fail me yet. Great Video, keep it up Man, I will follow. 👍🏻👍🏻
I own a torrent. Cast great, smooth, brass main gear, hardly to backlash, easy to use, sturdy body etc. Only 1 downside from me bout this reel, the drag is sticky. Need to rub some reel grease to smooth it up.
I did not read all the comments, but look at the parts break down and see how many bearings are in the KastKing handle, 4 maybe 6? which have nothing to do casting performance.11 bearings is advertising hype
I own both. Both are great in the price point of those reels. the torrent is better imo just for the handle size. Although I love a larger crank and I own the KK speed demon. 9.3.1. Super fast but only 13.5lbs drag. But what blew my mind is you can cast that a country mile and had a larger crank as well. Imo the over all brand would be KastKing
I have owned a Piscifun Torrent for about 3 years. It is a once-a-year muskie reel for me (despite the fact that it is not intended for muskie.) My buddy said it's a great reel for the price and at that price you can get a new one every few years when it wears out. It has been rock solid for me. I love the low profile and the thing casts like a champ. (80 Power Pro braid + 100 lb fluorocarbon leader and muskie lures.) I'm due to get a new one this year, but part of me thinks I can get another season out of it. Was looking at the Kast King, but after watching the video and my own experience, I am likely to stay with the Piscifun. (Plus you get a 10% discount.) Thanks for the Video LOJO. Rock them Bass!
I purchased the kastking in early spring. First trip out it done great,I landed 5 fish that day. However on the second trip out two days later I hook a large fish. The drag started to squeal very loud and then locked up. I figured the line would snap so I continued to fight it but nope the gears chewed themselves to pieces and went free spool. The fish spooled my 50lbs braid. The kastking was promply placed in the dumpster at the boat launch!!!
HOW BIG WAS THE FISH? please tell all..100lb flathead catfish...understand all fell apart...6lb bass not....you had 50lb braid..and drag was smoking.kastking drag 18 lbs or close..just interested...thanks..i know you don't have actual weight--never landed..sorry..wish you could have..i miss the I landed a 25lb catfish on a zebco 5lb test reel stories..those were the days..now we just overpower them all..lol
I currently own and use the KastKing Royale Legend along with much more expensive reels, a couple of Abu Garcias and one Lews. Setting up the Royale was much more tedious than the others, but worked well when I finally got it tuned in. I only apply two of the centrifugal brakes, and the magnetic brake which of course varies with lure weight and wind conditions. The spool tension knob has no clicks, which is easy to adapt to. It doesn't feel as sturdy as my other reels, but does handle big bass as well as the others, no problems pulling 3 and 4 pound bass through thick lily pads. The release lever malfunctioned for a while, but has been working fine for the last few months. I have not disassemble it to inspect for a possible quick repair. I may get the Torrent to compare, because as all fishermen know, we can never have too many rods and reels!
I have not used these specific models, but a have a piscifun chaos 60 conventional baitcast and love it. A buddy of mine only uses Abu 6500s and said he loves my piscifun.
I've got both, and they're both really good reels for the money. I had to clean and oil both of them when I first got them tho; the torrent was whining/screaming with hard cast, and the royale legend just felt a little rough, but a little 3N1 oil made them both feel great and got rid of the "problems"
I personally do not have either reel but my brother bought a Piscifun Torrent and practicing with it, I love the way it feels and casts. I am intrigued by the KastKing too. Decisions, decisions! Thank you for your honesty in going over both reels. Unfortunately you like them both. It just may come down to Heads/Tails!!! lol Take care and have a Blessed Christmas 🎄
Great video, the fish jump at 3:20 was sweet too. I picked up a torrent shortly after it hit amazon. It's been a great reel in fresh and salt water and is extremely smooth, last weekend I caught 3 coho on it in tidewater with the biggest being 10lb and it didn't miss a beat. The magnetic are strong and the drag is solid. Piscifun really pays attention to the small details on this reel and still kept it affordable to your weekend warrior fisherman.
From what I have seen on some of the RUclips videos, that I've watched, where a KastKing baitcasting reel is used, the person invariably likes it. I have also seen favorable reviews on their spinning reels like the Sharky ll and lll. Contrariwise, I haven't seen too much said, good or bad about Piscifun reels; not that there's anything bad about them. I like it when guys like you do reviews like this so I can learn more. As an aside, Piscifun also makes some real nice fishing tools such as hook removers, etc.. They also have a beautiful fishing backpack for $84.95 on Amazon.
This is my story. I’ve been a spinner guy for over 60 yrs. Love fishing and wanted to try something different and lighter. I didn’t want to invest a lot for my experiment so I ordered a kastking rod and baitcaster from Amazon. First drip out, I caught one fish with no problems. My second time out was on a boat. I noticed a loud grinding noise and the drag slipping..it got worse the more I used it, so I switched to my old spinner rig. I took my kastking apart when I got home but didn’t notice any wear on any of the gears which I thought was odd. I put back together and tried it in my driveway..same problem. I did it it about five or six times trying several different things, including ordering replacing a gear. In my frustration I threw my reel in the trash a couple times but ended pulling it out because I didn’t see any wear. While looking at an exploded diagrams on the internet I came across an exploded diagram of a demon (I ordered a Royale Legend ll). It had a note that many came from the factory with drag pressure washer came )) which was wrong, should be ()..note: my reel was in the trash can at this time. So I pulled it out again and flipped one washer over. That seemed to solve the problem.. Okay, why did I go thru all that trouble, you might ask? I loved the feel of the rod and the smoothness of the rig. I think it is a great reel for the price and convinced me to use it for shallow water dropping.. while I was trying to figure out my problem, I ordered a Shimano so I now have two baitcasting setups.
I have both and the Torrent is by far the better of the two. The Royal rattles when you reel it, took it apart lubed it,still has a rattle but I think it is the worm gear and pawl. Never had a problem with the Torrent!
Thanks for putting this type of video out. I do not own either one but I have been looking at getting a new reel but don't want to spend 100 dollars on one. Pleases keep doing these type of videos. they are helpful. Thanks again for what you are doing for the sport. Tight lines
I don’t own either, but I own reels from both companies. Kastking is great to work with and has great customer service. Both ship very quick. I find Kastking overall as a slightly better company with their complete product line up. They are also a bit more active on social media. I just bought a Kastking Brutus for $33 to try a left hand for the first time. I just bought a Picisfun to try for a musky reel??? We will see
I've had the royale legend for over 3 yrs. In the beginning it was great, but the last year of owning it has been giving me issues. The spool tensioner always comes loose which causes backlashes and the handle wobbles a little bit, but it could be just my particular baitcaster. I just recently purchased the torrent which replaced the kastking. Heard many good things and knee of my fishing buddies owns one and recommended it
I bought the torrent for a beach caster thinking if it dies I am not losing much money and it had great reviews (although most of them mentioned "this is my first baitcaster") . It has been on 5 saltwater trips so far, always rinsed with fresh water at the end of the day and is still working like new. Only caught a few small fish on it so drag has not been tested. The bigger bites just happened to be on spinning reels. For what it costs I think it a great reel. I plan to take it on my paddle board btb. If I get dunked and happen to lose it what am I out of? Just buy another. I have never tested kastking so I cannot make a comparison.
Better question for me is WHO has the better customer service for cheap reels? How much effort do the offer to help when there is an issue. Another is if I send it back who or how is the shipping handled?
Ok. I have been fishing with K.K. and Piscifun for the last 2 years. The best of the of the best is the Piscifun SAEX ELITE. I like it so well in fact I sold my Dawia steez and Shimino cores an bought 3 more SAEX Elites. They really are a sweet reel.
I bought the torrent over a year ago & i fish with it more than my lews, abu garcias its just a fun little reel works great smooth, Forty dollars you can,t beat it 5 stars.
Wow this was my first time seeing this LOJO video and I find it ironic that LOJO is the one that got me back into fishing after like 10 years and I bought the piscifun torrent reel a few weeks ago and its my first baitcasting reel. I grew up on spinning reels. Love the content LOJO!! 👌
Been using the Piscfun PF-1400 baitcaster and Venom 3000 spinning reel,which I fought a 3ft, stingray for about 15 min. did great, plenty of muscle . Fishing saltwater so far no complaints. great reels, worth the money. I will buy a KastKing to review myself, great review my man.keeping real.stay true, brother.
I saw your review then I bought the Piscifun Phantom reel from Amazon and when I received it I put 30lb braided line onto the reel the line did not sit properly on the spool. The line was off to one side. The reel was obviously defective. The next day I contacted Piscifun customer service about the problem and they asked me to take pictures of the line on the reel and send it to them, which I did. Then they asked me if I could disassemble the reel and replace a some washer, I did not want to disassemble change out parts. So, I Asked if I could exchange my defective Phantom reel for a properly working reel. Piscifun asked me to ship them the defective reel first and pay out of my own pocket for shipment, and they told me NOT to return the reel to Amazon. By this time I had already spent my time and fishing line and money on the Piscifun Phantom reel which arrived defective. I also missed out of fishing time. Please beware when you buy Piscifun products they are not the quality you expect, and the Piscifun is not good at customer satisfaction. I ended up returning the Piscifun Phantom reel to Amazon.
I have the Kastking and I like it very much, as long as I'm throwing heavier than 3/8 oz. i have a Piscifun also but it's not the Torrent. It also doesn't like to throw light stuff. For throwing light baits, I like the Black Max 3 in this price range. It works great for small squarebills and jerkbaits. They all work great at doing different things.
I have and fish both brands of reels and overall pisicfun is my go to. put my piscifun thunder through hell and back and is still my best reel. Love your videos keep it up.
I have them both, and love them both. They are in my experience close to equal. You are right KastKing is a cool name but the game changer for me is the precision adjustments on the Piscifun the drag and the spool tension have click stops and I like that!
Piscifun torrent all the way. This reel only has 5+1 bearings, you guys should try the ones with more bearings!!! I can spook a reel casting into heavy wind casting with light baits with some of piscifuns other reels! Plus on the torrent, the oversized handle which is noticeable in the video really helps you to wench fish out of heavy cover!
I have the Piscifun Torrent and I love that reel but I also just bought a Kastking Royale Legend on EBay for a great deal and waiting for its arrival. Honestly from the videos and reviews that I've seen. I have high hopes for this reel. Can't wait....
KastKing I have the kastking royal legend and really hope to get a speed demon if you look on my RUclips channel you will see a review of the royal Legend it's the only video of ever put up LOL sure would be nice if you guys could hook me up with a deal on that Speed Demon
Thank you for the information. I have a Torrent and plan on getting a KastKing soon! From what I have heard you can't go wrong with either one. Sort of neat that you can get a really decent reel and Not spend a ton of money. I applaud both companies for thinking "out of the box" and looking out for the end users. I hope my way of thinking is they will make just as much money because people can afford to purchase more. Just my 2 cents. Ooops, I need that money for my next purchase.
So I didn’t get the royal legend 2 I went with the crixus and I really enjoyed it. I had to send the first one back bc i felt grinding right away but the second one I still use today
For that money I think they are both amazing reels. I have chosen Kastking Royale though, for the fact I like to use as light lures as possible and this new dual 7 magnets braking system on Royale seems to me to be much more effective for such lures than just plain 5 magnets on Torrent. It gives much more room for adjustments in various wind conditions, especially if one is using free running spool (the tension knob is set as light as possible as not to hinder the cast). The other thing in favor of Royale is that I don't like "horsing out" the lure but prefer nice smooth casting in which I believe the Kastking Royale Legend (and Stealth even better) is absolute champion amongs non UBF specialized castings reel of any price range that I would ever consider (buying a 300$ or more $$$ reel is just ridiculus in my opinion)! Nice way to present them both, you have got one more on your subscribtion list, though...
Without reading all the reviews, what about the braking systems? Most of us are using a $40 reel are beginners. I think the kastking has dual breaking where the torrent has just magnetic. That is a gamechanger for most when learning baitcaster. Your thoughts?
that second break system on the Kastking Spartacus I got really is nice! It really does help a novice like myself out while i'm trying to learn how to use a baitcaster.
I've got a bunch of bait casters but i became a devoted kastking connoisseur after i purchased and used the kastking spartacus maximus. Loved catching 25lb+ striped bass with it in the bay from kayak. Bought the brutus and started using it in my local river systems and had no complaints. I got a few different sizes of the sharky III spinning reels as well. All around good reels at a good price. I saw some bad reviews on amazon for some of the kastking reels but from what i read, it sounded to me more like typical novice bait caster errors which will happen with any reel they touch. 🤷♂️
I have both and find the exact opposite. Not only does the Royale Legend cast farther for me, I have had it for a year trouble free. The Picifisun, which I've had for three months, is not as smooth with both casting and retrieval.
Hi @Jeff Jones Thank you so much for the feedback! Please contact us by email piscifun@piscifun.com for the details of the problem you have. We will try the best to help you. Any of your idea will be appreciated. Look forward to hearing from you.
i my favorit bait caster i have ever used is the abu garcia black maax but i fish in maine which the water down here is colder so the fish dont get as big
Just bought a Piscifun Torrent for my first baitcaster, pairing it with a budget Lew's Speed Stick. Figured I'd start with budget stuff to make sure I can use it! Reel feels unbelievably smooth and well made for the price I'm impressed. I'm curious on your claims about casting distance, if the amount of bearings in the Kastking might actually be a downside. Assuming the bearings are the same grade, say abec 5 for example, then more bearings would mean more friction... just a thought.
Actually only 2 to 3 bearing count for the casting. The rest are just in the handle knob and any other place. I have not own any of them but for the price seem like a good deal.
i did not have a good experience with the royal legend, worked great for a few weeks and all the sudden became a birds nest freak. Kastking did contact me for a review of the issue and offered my money back with a free replacement in which i told them if if it works better for me this time i will consider keeping using kastking and change my review of them. I did not receive my free replacement reel just money back so my review stands. I will be trying the other brand you review for sure tho, thanks for the review
I have the KastKing Royale Legend, and am considering the Piscifun Torrent. I love the Royale Legend, and if this vid is anything to go by, then I will love the Torrent even more.
Ratio doesnt matter, i wish reel manufacturers put amount of line retrieved per turn. Also bearing count doesnt matter either, some reels have better free spool performance.
lojo.fishing Free spool performance rate of retrieval and drag rating is all that counts. i dont stick to any brand but alot of times a inexpensive reels are about the same, big difference in a 1000 dollar reel to a $100 reel, than a $100 reel to a $40 reel. great vids keep em coming
COMMENT below if you guys have used either one of these reels before! Hope you guys have a great weekend and catch lots of fish!!!
lojo.fishing I agree with you, more ball bearings doesn't always mean it's better.
If ya really wanna have fun just take the handles apart from both reels and most *importantly take the grips off * when you take the grips off pull the bearings out(see for your self).... between the reels .....does it really matter ? you guys decide ..( for me, i thought it was cool to see the diff. )
P.S I love both the reels,But for me just my opinion i like the Kastking better. Thx and tight lines !
lojo.fishing your review made me subscribe, and finish made my dessition, in 5 days i should me getting my reel
lojo.fishing I have the torrent and I love it I have been thinking of getting a kastking but Iam really debating it
lojo.fishing because of my reel they have something different sow I thing you got rong spect
I spooled it with 8 LB test mono for lighter lures, gave it some practice casts and found that it did cast well ruclips.net/user/postUgkxSlytCJqozTF7EbdP4LWP-HUXf9WRDJ0e , except that the anti-backlash setting had to be turned up almost all of the way to keep the "overcasts' ' down. I disassembled it, and found that if I potted some "shim washers" behind that anti-backlash magnet assembly, it got the magnets closer to the spool without rubbing, and I could get better control with about a 6 to 7 out out 10-Max setting. I also noticed that the handle shaft had some internal end play, maybe only 2 or 3 thousands of an inch, but it's still noticeable. If the anti-backlash and shaft tolerances were "tightened up" this would be a fantastic value. I've only used it for 4 days of fishing in a month's time, but I plan on keeping it.
The fact the Torrent casts better than the Royale with half the bearings speaks for Piscifun in general. I own 6 Torrents and am having a hard time using any other reel. Piscifun is the real King.
+JGood Fishing nice!!!
Lol, thanks for making me laugh
blowup in the background at 3:20
+Shane gibson probably a gar lol
GREAT fishing eye Shane. I was beginning to think I was the only one!
Shane gibson I was just gonna say that lol
Shane gibson I saw the same thing
Wow
have a torrent got it when they first appeared I live in Florida have caught over 50 Spanish Mack’s already on this real plus a few doll head shark great drag capability I am 70 years old have fished penn Reels all my life hard to believe the quality of these reels thank you for great video
wow that's awesome!!!
Here is my experience - I went with the Piscifun for my first baitcaster because of this video. Out of the box and in the yard practicing, it was beyond my expectations. I was thrilled. Then I took it fishing. First two trips out, again, I loved it and was agreeing with all the hype about it performing like a reel that cost $100 or more. After the third trip, the retrieve became really rough, and dull grinding noise developed. Mind you, I performed maintenance on this reel after each use. After the noise developed, I stripped it down and tried greasing and oiling everything. Still was rough and noisy. Luckily I was still within the return period for Amazon. I swapped it out for the KastKing. So far, the KastKing to me feels about the same as the Piscifun did. It is the durability that I am concerned about, with any $40 reel. Not too hard to make a reel look and feel good for the first 100 casts. But the Piscifun, at least in my experience, broke down quickly. Time will tell if the KastKing is any better.
Great input, and like you said...40 dollar reel will always have durability issues in the long run
How is the kastking holding up?
Bought my 12 year old son and myself the Piscifun this summer. We both love them. Super smooth and casts very easy. My 12 year old can out cast me with his, often cast plastics without any added weight. He cast with great distance with light or heavy lures
+e schmidt nice to know 👍
+ e schmidt Great to know that, hope you enjoy more time together in the future! Go with family!
I have the Torrent myself and for a reel made by child laborers in China I have been pleasantly pleased with the Torrent. Compared to a higher priced Piscifun and my $160 Abu reel, the Torrent is right there with both of them.
Bought the piscifun torrent and it feels like a $200 baitcaster. The brakes are excellent, the clicking spool tensioner and the oversized handle makes it an awesome reel. Going to buy another one and pair it with the kastking royale legend rod. Cant wait to get it.
+bry954rr great input man
Does it still feeling like a $200 dollar bait caster? Mine went downhill real quick.
Good honest review. I have not used the Piscifun reels, but I do actually own the Royale Legend reel and that was the first baitcaster from KastKing I ever bought from them. That was about 2 1/2 years ago and even using it a few times inshore to catch flounder (of course after saltwater use a good cleaning is required) is still like new. As far as casting the Legend it can be a little bit tricky to cast if not set up properly. But once you get it dialed in it casts like a dream. Tip for you, pop the left side plate off push in switches 1 & 3 to the center, put the side plate back on and turn your outer brake to about 8 or 8.5 and then set your tension control knob to the bait you are using and that should have you casting a lot better.
+Southern Outdoors Fishing great input
This is one of the things I like about the KastKing. Although it takes a little longer to dial in, it is nice to have that option. I have 2 and 4 on the centrifugal pushed in, and set the outer brake to 8. Using 35 lb braid, I have no issues with backlashes at all.
I wasn’t sure what beginner baitcaster to use, but after watching reviews like this one i went with the piscifun
+Héctor Vega Rivera nice! Glad I could help
Héctor Vega how’s it holding up? I have a black max, but need another baitcaster setup.
@@seabass22 hows the black max i was looking at that at walmart last night?
I own the Kastking. Awesome baitcast reels. Virtually backlash free once you set the brakes properly. In fact my speed demon won't backlash even with the brakes ignored. It's like using a spincast. More importantly the company was started by 2 guys from Syracuse University in NY so let's give some American entrepreneurs some love. Especially my fellow NY'ers!
true. but the reels are actually made in China....so.....lol
Joseph NY Wayfarer Yay backlash least of my problems if the dam thing breaks after your oth outing and only caught 2 bass on it.
lol...he wont be back
I have used many expensive reels such as my Pfluger Patriarc ($200) and Shimano Curado ($180) and the Piscifun Torrent still out preforms them. The Pfluger and Shimano are good reels but dang, I don't know how Piscifun does it. Their reels are amazing.I dare you to cast one! They cast nearly the entire spool! When the bass are schooling and you want to stay back, cast a Piscifun as far as you want. The bearings are rediculously smooth. Like REALLY smooth. Go grab you a Piscifun reel. They are cheap, real cheap. Like I've spent more money on a 300yrd spool of fishing line then I have on their reals. Trust me you will not be disappointed!
+Jx Bassin' wow that is awesome
The first nice baitcaster i have and used for a year is a Pflueger. Ill have to give these Piscifun a try.
Where do i begin. All around i love the torrent reel. the castability is off the charts. eatch cast is smooth and i can cast my frog super far without putting a lot of power into a cast. its built tuff and durable.
+Michael Rose Fishing great info
I've got both reels and I agree with you, the Piscifun is the better reel. The no. 1 reason for my choice is the "oil" port on the PCF. I fish salt water and that ability to lubricate the reel without having to dismantle it is a big deal for me. And you're right, it has a better, smoother cast.
I'll start out, I have owned a Kastking centron, and a Piscifun Torrent, as well as an Ardent Apex Grand. Although the Centron is a spin caster, let's start with the build quality, at a 30 dollar reel you can't expect much but when you have a fish on the other side of the reel. You can feel where the reel seems like it wants to fall apart the handle is made of a cheap plastic that bends and flexes. Going to the Ardent Apex Grand the most expensive reel a $220 baitcasting reel , with 12+1 Ball bearing and a 12lb drag. From day one of ownership I have had issues with the reel from the reel getting shipped without a tensioner to bad spools. Comparing that to a 40 dollar Piscifun torrent, you'd expect the expensive reel to outcast and out perform the 40 dollar reel by 10 fold. After owning the Ardent since March of 2017 and the Torrent since October of 2017, putting the reels side by side the piscifun outperforms the apex grand hands down. After the great experince with the Piscifun I'd defently not only reccomend them to friends but I'd spend more money on their reels
+Zachary Powers wow that's awesome
Haven't used either but would like to remind folks that a faster reel is not always better. It all depends on how you plan to fish it and with which baits.
+BEARDed Outdoors very good point 👊
BEARDed Outdoors Totally agree, inches per turn should vary depending on the bait
yes but its easy it reel slow but reeling faster all day is terrible I always use a 7:1 or faster
also ball bearing count..if the bearings are placed correctly and support the gears / pinion/ structurally..you don't need as many..this 10-13 bearings all over the place just adds cost and complexity..more fail points..some pro told me anything over 8 is very excessive..i'm not a pro, but can grasp what he is saying..2 ball bearings in the handle end--just to get the count up..crazy..lol
Never had a bait caster but going to try the piscifun for the first time . Hey don't bash the guy for his hair style (said in the comments ) he is a die hard fisherman. It's a great community to belong to.
+hm mahoney true that! Thanks 👊👊👊
I'm new to baitcasting. I owned a reel years ago and couldn't figure it out. I'm ready to try again after 20 years. Thank you for your video. I think I will get the Piscifun via Amazon. The oil port is why. I will let you know how I do later.
+Wesley Hunt nice :)
I agree, I think Piscifun reels are better than KastKing! I have reels from both brands and Piscifun reels are superior to KK!
Thanks for your comment. I am about to buy either a Piscifun or Katking from Aliexpress and was not sure which one to buy. I am thinking Piscifun phantom but i am not sure which model to buy. Here in South Africa i fish farmdams mostly with a lot of grass so i think the phanton will do it for me. I am just worried if it will last.
I bought a KASTKING BRUTUS on Amazon for 25.99. I am very impressed with how smooth it is. It casts a mile with no backlash! It is a very good reel!
Your videos are always awesome. I picked up the torrent and wouldn’t have even given it a try if it weren’t for this video. Thank you so much I am loving it
I used a KK reel for 15 minutes and have never picked up another. I agree with your findings 100%.
Nice
Lojo.fishing, I have 4 AbuGarcia, 1 Shimano caius 201 and 1 Piscifun Torrent and in my opinion Torrent is really really good, and I dont say “for the price only”.... is a good real for fishing all the time... I waiting the second one, with this guy Abu-BlackMax is history. Thanks for your videos...
nice input, thanks
Most of my life I've been an Abu Garcia fan since 40 years ago, I was never satisfied with Shimano and Daiwa reels performance. When the phantom came up to the market I was hesitating about geting it. First tought was it may be a good backup reel. After watching your video I decided to go for it. Once in my hands I was really surprised, the look, the quality, the lightnes, the performance, I understand that the ball-bearings are Japan made. And is so cheap! It's my first chinese reel and I'm so happy with it! I only hope it lasts as much as my abus. Thanks for your advise!
I'm glad it worked out for you
I don’t have any problems with my KastKing reels on normal use, they work fantastic. They only way I’ve ever had problems with them is after abusing them like dipping them in mud (that’s a no brainer, you’d shouldn’t do that with any reel). You should review a piscifun vs KastKing spinning reel
+TheMasterCasters you got it bro
I just received my torrent today and was comparing the same two reels on Amazon last night. I chose the piscifun. It seems to be sturdy and well made. Can't wait to try it out. Thanks for the video. You have a new subscriber.
I just bought a piscifun torrent last week and I've used it about 3 times out in the boat but I don't use it for bass I use it for my top water setup for specks and reds inshore and it has worked really well so far it cast smooth and the drag is pretty smooth but I don't know how long it will last but I really like it so far it casts just as good as my revo my orra inshore and my casitas. I recommend it
+Christian Chambers nice! Glad you are enjoying it
+Christian Chambers Sounds great! Hope you enjoy more with it!
Have 2 of the Piscifun Torrents , have used one for salt water and the other for fresh, both are doing great. Very smooth with no problems. The salt water one went thru Harvey and is still working ok. Have two Kastkings , one is the 9.1-3 and I have a problem with the release button . Not that happy with either one of them.
+Bruce Scott nice!!!
+Bruce Scott Hope the Torrent can help you hook up more salwater fish!
I'm very late to this post since i just started looking for a new baitcaster. Will you share how are these piscifun reels holding after several months of use? I was actually looking for a piscifun phantom and ended up in this review. I will use the reel exclusively in salt water, just like you.
Thank you. I’ve been watching a million vids on these two and this was the most helpful.
I'm glad I could help
Bearing count has no effect on casting performance. There's only 2-3 bearings on the spool, depending on the reel design. Those arw the only ones that affect casting.
I wouldn't say number has nothing to do with it, but I understand your point
lojo.fishing Whether there's 4+1 or 11+1 only 3 touch the spool shaft. All of the others don't turn during a cast. There's a few exceptions with reels that have a bushing replacing one of the spool shaft bearings. Also some that have a shorter spool shaft, so only two. Also of note, I just bought a piscifun phantom, and the inside diameter of the bearing under the cast control cap is larger than the shaft so the shaft just spins inside it without contacting the bearing.
The bearing placement has more to do with the overall performance and stability and smoothness of the reel the more bearings one has makes the reel more stable for the long run over time my other reels with less bearings get sloppy on performance while my reels with more bearings stays smooth longer over time you will find that out.
I own then both and I find that the Piscfun cast better, but when it comes to backlashes. The Kastking backlash is less often and there much easier to get out compared to Piscfun. Sorry but I love all my Kastking products I like Piscfun too. I just like Kastking more over all even over my Diawa reels.
+KingZion Aahluminhaa sounds like a fair and honest opinion to me :)
I love my Piscifuns. Pf-1400 sl20 destroyer and my two torrents. I love the torrent for the price. And i love the long extended handle for the torque. I love the casting also. Glad to hear it!
Nice!
I own both (KK speed demon & a Torrent) and they both work equally well....The test will be on the durability over time
So any conclusion on the durability??
i have the picifisun torrent with picifisun branded braided 35lb line, cast pretty good. I tend to get an average of 50 to 60 yard casts from the pier with a 3 ounce lure or lead.
+OHMYGURD LOL nice! That's pretty awesome
Guys, i bought the Piscifun Phantom and carbon xcs casting reel. Absolutely stunning reels from Piscifun. I love both reels and fish them all the time. The carbon xcs is even smoother than my Shimano casting reels. You cannot go wrong for the money you pay for them.
I own two Torrents.
They just work.
I also picked up a Piscifun Warrior rod. Not bad either. The whole combo never broke a hundo.
+xOPER8Rx can't beat that
I can't speak to the quality of the KastKing. I had looked at buying one but they don't ship to Canada from their store and they are overpriced on Amazon.ca. I bought a Piscifun Torrent instead and I'm really happy with the purchase. It is not just a great baitcaster for the price, it is a great reel period. I also own a Shimano Curado I-series that cost almost 5x what the Piscifun sells for and the Torrent casts just as far and is just as smooth. I don't have any backlash problems, drag works well. BUY ONE BEFORE THEY RAISE THE PRICE!!
nice stuff!!!
i own the picifun torrent and i LOVE it! This video made up my mind on which one to pick, so thank you!!
glad I could help
I love that u actually picked one that was better I hate when people compare 2 things and then don't tell me wich is better
lol I know right
Thanks for the non bias review. I've been looking at both those reels and was leaning towards the Piscifun.
:)
Cool video. I was given the Kastking Royale Legend for my *cough* 50th birthday... This is my first baitcasting reel and the first non-spin cast reel since I was given a Zebco 202 for a MUCH earlier birthday. While I really don't have anything to compare it to, I've had fun working on getting it to cast without birdnesting. Varying success! Long story short, I like it! It's a much different feel than a spinning reel.
Owned both of them, ended up returning the Kastking Stealth for a refund cause didn’t like it. I still own the Piscifun and now that I paired it with a Piscifun Torrent Rod its like a match made in heaven! Without bashing Kastking cause i own the KK Assasin and I Love it, this Piscifun reel is a beast!! I have pulled 5-6lbs LM Bass with no problem with this reel. Dragging hasn’t fail me yet. Great Video, keep it up Man, I will follow. 👍🏻👍🏻
wow, there you go
so the rod is good stuff ...any insight there...thanks
I own a torrent. Cast great, smooth, brass main gear, hardly to backlash, easy to use, sturdy body etc. Only 1 downside from me bout this reel, the drag is sticky. Need to rub some reel grease to smooth it up.
Great info
I did not read all the comments, but look at the parts break down and see how many bearings are in the KastKing handle, 4 maybe 6? which have nothing to do casting performance.11 bearings is advertising hype
definitely true in a way
agree....but must keep pace since people buy off b.bearing count..just part of the game..also more FAIL POINTS ....AND COMPLEXITY...
I own both. Both are great in the price point of those reels. the torrent is better imo just for the handle size. Although I love a larger crank and I own the KK speed demon. 9.3.1. Super fast but only 13.5lbs drag. But what blew my mind is you can cast that a country mile and had a larger crank as well. Imo the over all brand would be KastKing
great input
I don't have either reel but I do own reels from both companies and have been pleased with their overall performance.
good to know
i am one of those researching wich reel to buy. thank you for your valuable information. and the time and effort you put into your video.
Glad you enjoyed
I have owned a Piscifun Torrent for about 3 years. It is a once-a-year muskie reel for me (despite the fact that it is not intended for muskie.) My buddy said it's a great reel for the price and at that price you can get a new one every few years when it wears out. It has been rock solid for me. I love the low profile and the thing casts like a champ. (80 Power Pro braid + 100 lb fluorocarbon leader and muskie lures.) I'm due to get a new one this year, but part of me thinks I can get another season out of it. Was looking at the Kast King, but after watching the video and my own experience, I am likely to stay with the Piscifun. (Plus you get a 10% discount.) Thanks for the Video LOJO. Rock them Bass!
I purchased the kastking in early spring. First trip out it done great,I landed 5 fish that day. However on the second trip out two days later I hook a large fish. The drag started to squeal very loud and then locked up. I figured the line would snap so I continued to fight it but nope the gears chewed themselves to pieces and went free spool. The fish spooled my 50lbs braid. The kastking was promply placed in the dumpster at the boat launch!!!
+kayak life fishing wow that's unfortunate
HOW BIG WAS THE FISH? please tell all..100lb flathead catfish...understand all fell apart...6lb bass not....you had 50lb braid..and drag was smoking.kastking drag 18 lbs or close..just interested...thanks..i know you don't have actual weight--never landed..sorry..wish you could have..i miss the I landed a 25lb catfish on a zebco 5lb test reel stories..those were the days..now we just overpower them all..lol
I currently own and use the KastKing Royale Legend along with much more expensive reels, a couple of Abu Garcias and one Lews. Setting up the Royale was much more tedious than the others, but worked well when I finally got it tuned in. I only apply two of the centrifugal brakes, and the magnetic brake which of course varies with lure weight and wind conditions. The spool tension knob has no clicks, which is easy to adapt to. It doesn't feel as sturdy as my other reels, but does handle big bass as well as the others, no problems pulling 3 and 4 pound bass through thick lily pads. The release lever malfunctioned for a while, but has been working fine for the last few months. I have not disassemble it to inspect for a possible quick repair. I may get the Torrent to compare, because as all fishermen know, we can never have too many rods and reels!
good info
I bought a piscifun Torrent, for 40 dollars is a GREAT reel. It holds up great to sight casting some big redfish
glad you had a good experience
I have not used these specific models, but a have a piscifun chaos 60 conventional baitcast and love it. A buddy of mine only uses Abu 6500s and said he loves my piscifun.
I've got both, and they're both really good reels for the money. I had to clean and oil both of them when I first got them tho; the torrent was whining/screaming with hard cast, and the royale legend just felt a little rough, but a little 3N1 oil made them both feel great and got rid of the "problems"
I personally do not have either reel but my brother bought a Piscifun Torrent and practicing with it, I love the way it feels and casts. I am intrigued by the KastKing too. Decisions, decisions! Thank you for your honesty in going over both reels. Unfortunately you like them both. It just may come down to Heads/Tails!!! lol Take care and have a Blessed Christmas 🎄
+Dino Harrison thanks!
You should review the Piscifun Alijos now that it is out. 300 size reel, with a 33lb drag system.
Great video, the fish jump at 3:20 was sweet too. I picked up a torrent shortly after it hit amazon. It's been a great reel in fresh and salt water and is extremely smooth, last weekend I caught 3 coho on it in tidewater with the biggest being 10lb and it didn't miss a beat. The magnetic are strong and the drag is solid. Piscifun really pays attention to the small details on this reel and still kept it affordable to your weekend warrior fisherman.
+matt roberts wow that's impressive
From what I have seen on some of the RUclips videos, that I've watched, where a KastKing baitcasting reel is used, the person invariably likes it. I have also seen favorable reviews on their spinning reels like the Sharky ll and lll. Contrariwise, I haven't seen too much said, good or bad about Piscifun reels; not that there's anything bad about them. I like it when guys like you do reviews like this so I can learn more. As an aside, Piscifun also makes some real nice fishing tools such as hook removers, etc.. They also have a beautiful fishing backpack for $84.95 on Amazon.
glad you enjoyed
This is my story. I’ve been a spinner guy for over 60 yrs. Love fishing and wanted to try something different and lighter. I didn’t want to invest a lot for my experiment so I ordered a kastking rod and baitcaster from Amazon.
First drip out, I caught one fish with no problems. My second time out was on a boat. I noticed a loud grinding noise and the drag slipping..it got worse the more I used it, so I switched to my old spinner rig.
I took my kastking apart when I got home but didn’t notice any wear on any of the gears which I thought was odd. I put back together and tried it in my driveway..same problem. I did it it about five or six times trying several different things, including ordering replacing a gear. In my frustration I threw my reel in the trash a couple times but ended pulling it out because I didn’t see any wear.
While looking at an exploded diagrams on the internet I came across an exploded diagram of a demon (I ordered a Royale Legend ll). It had a note that many came from the factory with drag pressure washer came )) which was wrong, should be ()..note: my reel was in the trash can at this time. So I pulled it out again and flipped one washer over. That seemed to solve the problem..
Okay, why did I go thru all that trouble, you might ask? I loved the feel of the rod and the smoothness of the rig. I think it is a great reel for the price and convinced me to use it for shallow water dropping.. while I was trying to figure out my problem, I ordered a Shimano so I now have two baitcasting setups.
I bought the Torrent and was so impressed I also bought the bigger Piscifun Alijos which I want to use for Musky
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I have both and the Torrent is by far the better of the two. The Royal rattles when you reel it, took it apart lubed it,still has a rattle but I think it is the worm gear and pawl. Never had a problem with the Torrent!
very nice
Thanks for putting this type of video out. I do not own either one but I have been looking at getting a new reel but don't want to spend 100 dollars on one. Pleases keep doing these type of videos. they are helpful. Thanks again for what you are doing for the sport. Tight lines
+James Queen no problem. Glad I could help
I don’t own either, but I own reels from both companies. Kastking is great to work with and has great customer service. Both ship very quick. I find Kastking overall as a slightly better company with their complete product line up. They are also a bit more active on social media. I just bought a Kastking Brutus for $33 to try a left hand for the first time. I just bought a Picisfun to try for a musky reel??? We will see
I've had the royale legend for over 3 yrs. In the beginning it was great, but the last year of owning it has been giving me issues. The spool tensioner always comes loose which causes backlashes and the handle wobbles a little bit, but it could be just my particular baitcaster. I just recently purchased the torrent which replaced the kastking. Heard many good things and knee of my fishing buddies owns one and recommended it
good to know
I've only used the Royale Legend but loved it. It's a steal of a reel for $39!
+DEBO'S Fishing true that
i just ordered a piscifun to replace my pinnacle lp100 ive been throwing for over ten years cant wait to try it out on my 5'6" cherrywood
Own both of these reels,started out with the kastking but I prefer the piscifun reel.. it casts smoother and has a bigger winding arm too.
I like it a little better as well
I bought the torrent for a beach caster thinking if it dies I am not losing much money and it had great reviews (although most of them mentioned "this is my first baitcaster") . It has been on 5 saltwater trips so far, always rinsed with fresh water at the end of the day and is still working like new. Only caught a few small fish on it so drag has not been tested. The bigger bites just happened to be on spinning reels. For what it costs I think it a great reel. I plan to take it on my paddle board btb. If I get dunked and happen to lose it what am I out of? Just buy another. I have never tested kastking so I cannot make a comparison.
very good point
Better question for me is WHO has the better customer service for cheap reels? How much effort do the offer to help when there is an issue. Another is if I send it back who or how is the shipping handled?
great question!
At that price customer service really don't matter. It's a $35 reel not a $200 Shimano
Ok. I have been fishing with K.K. and Piscifun for the last 2 years. The best of the of the best is the Piscifun SAEX ELITE. I like it so well in fact I sold my Dawia steez and Shimino cores an bought 3 more SAEX Elites. They really are a sweet reel.
I have the Kastking Royal Legend and I have 12lb Fluorocarbon spooled and people comment on how far I can cast it. It's awesome!
NICE!!!
I bought the torrent over a year ago & i fish with it more than my lews, abu garcias its just a fun little reel works great smooth, Forty dollars you can,t beat it 5 stars.
Wow this was my first time seeing this LOJO video and I find it ironic that LOJO is the one that got me back into fishing after like 10 years and I bought the piscifun torrent reel a few weeks ago and its my first baitcasting reel. I grew up on spinning reels. Love the content LOJO!! 👌
Been using the Piscfun PF-1400 baitcaster and Venom 3000 spinning reel,which I fought a 3ft, stingray for about 15 min. did great, plenty of muscle . Fishing saltwater so far no complaints. great reels, worth the money. I will buy a KastKing to review myself, great review my man.keeping real.stay true, brother.
very nice, thanks so much
3:18 look on the water in the background on the left side of his head
haahahah
I saw your review then I bought the Piscifun Phantom reel from Amazon and when I received it I put 30lb braided line onto the reel the line did not sit properly on the spool. The line was off to one side. The reel was obviously defective. The next day I contacted Piscifun customer service about the problem and they asked me to take pictures of the line on the reel and send it to them, which I did. Then they asked me if I could disassemble the reel and replace a some washer, I did not want to disassemble change out parts. So, I Asked if I could exchange my defective Phantom reel for a properly working reel. Piscifun asked me to ship them the defective reel first and pay out of my own pocket for shipment, and they told me NOT to return the reel to Amazon. By this time I had already spent my time and fishing line and money on the Piscifun Phantom reel which arrived defective. I also missed out of fishing time. Please beware when you buy Piscifun products they are not the quality you expect, and the Piscifun is not good at customer satisfaction. I ended up returning the Piscifun Phantom reel to Amazon.
I have the Kastking and I like it very much, as long as I'm throwing heavier than 3/8 oz. i have a Piscifun also but it's not the Torrent. It also doesn't like to throw light stuff. For throwing light baits, I like the Black Max 3 in this price range. It works great for small squarebills and jerkbaits. They all work great at doing different things.
Great input
I have and fish both brands of reels and overall pisicfun is my go to. put my piscifun thunder through hell and back and is still my best reel. Love your videos keep it up.
thanks so much
Great review. I have four of the Torrent reels and they are extremely quiet and smooth, better than another I've used.
I have them both, and love them both. They are in my experience close to equal. You are right KastKing is a cool name but the game changer for me is the precision adjustments on the Piscifun the drag and the spool tension have click stops and I like that!
good points
Piscifun torrent all the way. This reel only has 5+1 bearings, you guys should try the ones with more bearings!!! I can spook a reel casting into heavy wind casting with light baits with some of piscifuns other reels! Plus on the torrent, the oversized handle which is noticeable in the video really helps you to wench fish out of heavy cover!
+Wesley Sandifer nice!!!
I have the Piscifun Torrent and I love that reel but I also just bought a Kastking Royale Legend on EBay for a great deal and waiting for its arrival. Honestly from the videos and reviews that I've seen. I have high hopes for this reel. Can't wait....
Cool
We know which one we are voting for :) Stay tuned...big things coming from KastKing!
+KastKing lol much respect 👊👊👊
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KastKing love your reel
Thank you! Which KastKing products do you have?
KastKing I have the kastking royal legend and really hope to get a speed demon if you look on my RUclips channel you will see a review of the royal Legend it's the only video of ever put up LOL sure would be nice if you guys could hook me up with a deal on that Speed Demon
Thank you for the information. I have a Torrent and plan on getting a KastKing soon! From what I have heard you can't go wrong with either one. Sort of neat that you can get a really decent reel and Not spend a ton of money. I applaud both companies for thinking "out of the box" and looking out for the end users. I hope my way of thinking is they will make just as much money because people can afford to purchase more. Just my 2 cents. Ooops, I need that money for my next purchase.
+Dino Harrison haha thanks man I agree
So I didn’t get the royal legend 2 I went with the crixus and I really enjoyed it. I had to send the first one back bc i felt grinding right away but the second one I still use today
For that money I think they are both amazing reels. I have chosen Kastking Royale though, for the fact I like to use as light lures as possible and this new dual 7 magnets braking system on Royale seems to me to be much more effective for such lures than just plain 5 magnets on Torrent. It gives much more room for adjustments in various wind conditions, especially if one is using free running spool (the tension knob is set as light as possible as not to hinder the cast). The other thing in favor of Royale is that I don't like "horsing out" the lure but prefer nice smooth casting in which I believe the Kastking Royale Legend (and Stealth even better) is absolute champion amongs non UBF specialized castings reel of any price range that I would ever consider (buying a 300$ or more $$$ reel is just ridiculus in my opinion)!
Nice way to present them both, you have got one more on your subscribtion list, though...
great input!!!
Without reading all the reviews, what about the braking systems? Most of us are using a $40 reel are beginners.
I think the kastking has dual breaking where the torrent has just magnetic. That is a gamechanger for most when learning baitcaster. Your thoughts?
that second break system on the Kastking Spartacus I got really is nice! It really does help a novice like myself out while i'm trying to learn how to use a baitcaster.
I've got a bunch of bait casters but i became a devoted kastking connoisseur after i purchased and used the kastking spartacus maximus. Loved catching 25lb+ striped bass with it in the bay from kayak. Bought the brutus and started using it in my local river systems and had no complaints. I got a few different sizes of the sharky III spinning reels as well. All around good reels at a good price. I saw some bad reviews on amazon for some of the kastking reels but from what i read, it sounded to me more like typical novice bait caster errors which will happen with any reel they touch. 🤷♂️
I have torrent also the phantom and the new alloy m and i love them and all my other set up are high end set up and ill put the up to all of them
I have both and find the exact opposite. Not only does the Royale Legend cast farther for me, I have had it for a year trouble free. The Picifisun, which I've had for three months, is not as smooth with both casting and retrieval.
well there ya go, everybody has their own experiences
Hi @Jeff Jones Thank you so much for the feedback! Please contact us by email piscifun@piscifun.com for the details of the problem you have. We will try the best to help you. Any of your idea will be appreciated. Look forward to hearing from you.
Now let's go over some rods . I just broke my medium heavy . I need some good suggestions for a new one.
+alex turner any Garcia vengeance or veritas.
alex turner Berkley Lightning Rod works very well for $35 from bass pro 👍🏻
i my favorit bait caster i have ever used is the abu garcia black maax but i fish in maine which the water down here is colder so the fish dont get as big
Just bought a Piscifun Torrent for my first baitcaster, pairing it with a budget Lew's Speed Stick. Figured I'd start with budget stuff to make sure I can use it! Reel feels unbelievably smooth and well made for the price I'm impressed. I'm curious on your claims about casting distance, if the amount of bearings in the Kastking might actually be a downside. Assuming the bearings are the same grade, say abec 5 for example, then more bearings would mean more friction... just a thought.
yeah there's a lot that goes into it all, but that sounds like a solid budget combo
I have the KastKing Spartacus Plus, slightly more expensive, it's my first baitcaster. Been a few months and I've enjoyed it so far!
cool deal
Actually only 2 to 3 bearing count for the casting. The rest are just in the handle knob and any other place. I have not own any of them but for the price seem like a good deal.
good input
i did not have a good experience with the royal legend, worked great for a few weeks and all the sudden became a birds nest freak. Kastking did contact me for a review of the issue and offered my money back with a free replacement in which i told them if if it works better for me this time i will consider keeping using kastking and change my review of them. I did not receive my free replacement reel just money back so my review stands. I will be trying the other brand you review for sure tho, thanks for the review
+Ben Tech no problem man
I have the KastKing Royale Legend, and am considering the Piscifun Torrent. I love the Royale Legend, and if this vid is anything to go by, then I will love the Torrent even more.
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Just bought the Piscifun Torrent. Hoping you are correct.
(3:20) anyone else catch the fish in the background?
Ratio doesnt matter, i wish reel manufacturers put amount of line retrieved per turn. Also bearing count doesnt matter either, some reels have better free spool performance.
very good points
lojo.fishing Free spool performance rate of retrieval and drag rating is all that counts. i dont stick to any brand but alot of times a inexpensive reels are about the same, big difference in a 1000 dollar reel to a $100 reel, than a $100 reel to a $40 reel. great vids keep em coming