@@rachelm9350 As a recruiter that worked job fairs years ago, I have only talked to 1 qualified person in maybe 20 job fairs. They are probably good for entry-level roles because that what most of the attendees were back then.
Me: Apply to ~90 IT jobs, got ~7 interviews, 2 job offers Wife: Help create her resume and apply to 6 Nursing jobs, got 6 interviews, and 6 offers.... Really depends on the job supply/demand
This is the most interesting perspective honestly. Like it's taking a new perspective that says maybe the market you're in is over competitive. And the other markets where ppl aren't complaining are where one should apply. I really appreciate this perspective buddy.
Completely true. The problem isnt so much that there aren't these opportunities it's that we push kids into the same jobs (like tech) that become oversaturated and aren't even what they wanted to do
Hiring is a joke, we need to get out of the hiring ways we do now. Someone applied for 836 jobs in the last 3 months, 836 applications??!!?!?!? WOW, how is that even possible. Out of those 836, only 15 reached out, and only 5 interviewed and landed 1 job. What is the percentage of that? That is archaic truly...
I applied for 6 jobs that matched my I.T. skills well. I got 4 interviews and 3 offers within a couple of weeks. Went with best fit for me. Then got 2 more offers from job and clients I had left. Now make 50% more money. Not all of us go thru that mess.
It’s because LinkedIn and Indeed make it super easy to apply to honestly junk. I know someone who hits those kinds of numbers and he applies for just everything.
When I moved to a new country at age 50 - with a "complex" work background - I spent several months networking intensely. The job I ultimately got was created by the organisation that hired me because they recognised that I could so something worthwhile for them.
I have worked in tech for 25 years. I have never once ever gotten an interview by applying directly to a corporate website for a job. Every single interview has always come through an American recruiter. Don't waste time on the Indian recruiters. They don't even have the requisition.
I have been lucky with Indian recruiters twice from the same company. I wouldn't say you can't get a job trough an Indian recruiter. It's just rare and highly unlikely.
If I see an Indian name in a text, or message on LinkedIn or indeed, I don’t even respond. Too many scammers and I don’t respect a company that outsources outside of the US.
The problem is, over 80% of IT and Tech recruiters in the U.S. are from India!! The American IT and Tech recruiters are rare in IT and Tech in the U.S.!!
I’ve gotten a lot of jobs from networking and it is the way to go. My network has all retired or passed away so I’m having to figure out new way to get a job. I work with a variety of recruiters for jobs. I do contract work so all of them don’t last very long. I have been looking for full-time work, but none of those are panning out. When I first got laid off in April, I spent 12 hours a day applying for jobs not one call not one. I reconnected with the recruiters I knew and I’ve been keeping busy but I need full-time work. You have given some great tips on the video.
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Companies do NOT want you to walk your resume into their company. These two guys may think that is a benefit but the truth is that you won't get past the receptionist and you will be told to apply online. I have been looking for a job for 1 1/2 years and have applied to over 100 positions and hear back less than 5% of the time.
You can get past the receptionist. You have to talk casually (converse) (network) and kinda find out what they are looking for or what their immediate needs. And present your skills/strength that you are the solution. That receptionist will call the hiring/manager for you. Once you have that oppurtunity treat that as interview and show your knowledge skill and how you can be the solutions to their problem. You have to research the company first to get the picture how they do things. I did that to evey single job. I once move to new state no network or connection. That receptionist was the first connection. She was able to call the HR manager and the COO to meet and talk to me. They were not hiring but was very interested (first impression last) and was ask to submit my resume and week later scheduled a formal interview and was hired. Being proactive and be in person so they can evaluate your skills and what you can do still work these days.
I've had three jobs at major organizations and got them all by contacting a bunch of recruitment agencies in the city (like twenty or thirty), writing down their contact details and following up regularly by telephone and email. I did this rather than applying to the organizations directly. Most recently I started again as a temp at the bottom, as a way in, and was encouraged by co-workers to apply for a permanent position, with a promotion, within a year.
Applying for jobs is the hardest way to get a job. You might not have the strongest resume, but knowing someone in the building is a game changer. It's all a SICK JOKE!!!
Exactly how I got my present job. I found a company that is 100 to 500 employees and did things old school. Hiring manager saw my resume, called me in for an interview, and hired me the next week. Both of us cut all this unnecessary nonsense. She knew her job...I know my job well. 6 months later we're happy with the outcome.
I don’t like this…I don’t like to rely on someone or make people feel they did me some favor. I’ll get jobs based on my merit…so that I can sink or swim based on my skills, education and experience. If I wanna leave the job I must not feel tied to it
Man of tomorrow - it’s the same thing. Doing good work for people and being a good person to work with builds those relationships. Along the way people forgot that people buy, people hire, and people work.
There used to be a plethora of jobs, then corporations began outsourcing. Now we're fighting for basic positions like those same countries they recruited from...
Recruiters have done nothing but create unnecessary roadblocks for good people trying to better themselves. Hiring managers need to get off their butt and start being more active in the recruiting process for people they would actually oversee.
Thinking back, im in my late 20s and ive gotten one job from online resumes. Everything else, serving, IT, construction, management, its all been walk in or somebody i know
How the heck is the advice to not apply but get a referral from someone internal. Like most people DON'T just know people who already work for the company and then trying to reach out to random employees asking for a referral is mad weird because they don't know you. But finding a job is time sensitive and sometimes life or death for some people so they can't just spend time trying to make friends and get to know these random employees. Applying is all most of us have right now. Be so fr please
The problem with employee referrals and personal connections to someone who works there is that it isn't always possible. You're not always going to know someone, and when you do, its most often going to be your neighbor's cousin's best friend's brother who is the janitor or something. If I only applied to places where a friend worked I'd never apply because I don't know anyone who works for companies I want to work for.
This has been my experience too. Job listings with a laundry list of requirements and laughable pay. Corporate greed is really the issue with this current job market.
Work with your strengths, know your advantages, and be persistent. Most of all leave a good first impression. If you get an in person interview things like Thank You cards help keep you in an employer's mind.
It's tricky to know the right someone. Everyone I ever knew was going for the same jobs as me, and were either themselves not knowing how to get in, or were NOT about to help me if they did!
The problem is, over 80% of IT and Tech recruiters in the U.S. are from India!! The American IT and Tech recruiters are rare in IT and Tech in the U.S.!!
"Might as well buy a lottery ticket while you are at it" Hopefully this quote from Ken resonates with job seekers and they understand the quality of your search is more substantial than the quantity. Great clip!
I've had over 20 jobs and not 1 came from being referred. You used to be able to apply and get a job. Now you have to network and look to make friends and kiss a** to get a pinkie toe in the door to keep a roof over your head. Also, we are no where near as social as we used to be because of technology so it is VERY difficult to do this. People in general you try to network with/ make friends to do this strategy are pretty closed off. We are living in an unsocial age.
I am very blessed to have intelligence, unique skills, and experience. I will choose one job, apply, get an interview, and then get a job. It's been like this for many years. The only problem is that there are not too many jobs for me. Maybe one job shows up once per month. I am looking for jobs on Indeed and on private agencies for household staffing. I make 6 figures and I am a combination of housekeeper/house manager/assistant/cook/personal shopper/pet sitter for high-net-worth clients.
People should not send in a ton of applications. They need to find sectors of the economy that are hiring and try to apply directly on their site. Research companies/ agencies first before applying.
Ken’s next suggestion is to print off 100 resumes and walk around to different businesses and hand them out. I swear this guy is the world’s youngest boomer. Hasn’t anyone ever told him that networking will get you a job, but it also ensures that you’re chronically underpaid because you’re relying on favors in order to be employed rather than skills that are in demand that you can demand a high high wage for?
@bg8753 Sounds like your in a bubble....I think a lot of people have "engaged" in the market and guess what...not everyone succeeds and you have to do more then "engage". If you think networking is just begging for friends for jobs then you obviously don't know how this country works.
I believe this but it just hasn't been true in my life. I've gotten almost all my jobs just through applying. Did I work my butt off to tailor each resume to the job I was applying for? Absolutely.
Great conversation. I'm also a recruiter by trade like Bryan. Yes there is some truth to it's who you you know. I've worked with a lot of hiring managers who tell me "hey I worked with so and so, and he/she is my top candidate." This is before they even apply to determine if the meet the min quals, or before I even screen then. So already there's some bias/partiality that I have to try and unpeel from the hiring manager. Most of the time the hiring manager will go with someone they know and worked with vs taking a chance on someone who meets all the qualifications. Im not saying it's right, but it does happen.
2024 and we're just figuring out how recruiters work? Not everyone is in some buddy buddy good ol' boy group like the Ramsey show click. It's a numbers game for most of us, no matter who you "know". Because if you really "knew" people, you wouldn't be applying for a 9-5 job.
I mean this recruiter definitely doesn’t represent most recruiters anyways. He’s always just wrong and I’m not sure if he’s a troll or grifter at this point. Might be both. Anyways to be honest the job market isn’t bad. I just got a new job. I see a lot of success out there. But people online are moping but I wonder if there’s something they aren’t disclosing that makes it hard for them. Like one of my old coworkers who very clearly lies on his resume and has been fired from 3 jobs in 1 year or another friend of mine who worked for a fraudulent company. Stuff like that.
@@ninjagirl226yeah when someone starts talking about networking instead of actual careers that are in demand I check out. There is no real information in just telling people to network.
I worked at a company where the internal candidates got put on blast for applying. It was typical for the Hiring manager for the job you applied to, to talk to your manager. It was very likely to blow up in your face so people didn’t apply internally much. Many times a person would quit the whole company and get rehired under a different manager. It was stupid considering RSU vestings and such but it occurred often.
In the company I worked for 10 years and had would apply for internal jobs and always got over looked they hired those outside. I think it was bc if you did great at one job they may not want you to go anywhere.
My fear with optimizing my resume is sending the wrong message that Id actually be great at the job when I know I won't. Then they be at the job looking at me like 😑
I would say, try to get in the company another way, unless you are really qualified, I would offer to meet with the operations manager, show up or call, be in person, speak so they can hear your voice, because applications are like looking through a needle in a haystack, and who wants to do that?
That’s the issue right there. Now you got to go out there and hustle and find it like everyone else and it seems like you don’t know how to navigate the market.
@@manoftomorrow5987 there was a learning curve. But it's more than that. I'm 60, 5ish years to retirement. A lot of companies don't want to invest the effort for a short term employee. Also I've been in my field 40 years. That puts me in the high end of pay range. I've low balled my salary requirements but companies see that as a flight risk.
If you don't mind me asking what industry are you experienced in? Trying to get an idea for what job markets are struggling and what job markets are fairing off a little better
I have found that if a company contacts me for an interview from submitting an online resume, the company is typically very unprofessional and toxic and desperate to hire. I stopped applying online and I go to the company in-person with my resume. Works every time! Please note: I do wonder if my last name has prohibited recruitment from reaching out to me, as well.
Why do they bring in a recruiter like they are an expert? It is like bring in a car salesmen as an expert on cars. They usually know very little. All a recruiter does is filters resumes based on keywords and schedules interviews. Just like a car salesmen usually knows very little about the car.
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I am going to be 64 and I almost always get hired. Why? Because I look nice, that is why. I exercise a lot, wear stylish clothes, and wear pretty makeup. My hair is not gray. I also have energy. The pace of my speech is fast and current. I do not smoke. You absolutely must exercise on a regular basis. When doing video interviews, make sure your lighting and background look good. Invest in a ring light. There are tons of videos showing you how to dress and look good on video interviews.
Oh my God! I read this response and had to laugh. It is superficial, shallow and archaic. Women are more than beautiful window dressing. What the hell does exercise contribute to the employment process? This was a high lighted response which is even more comical. You get hired because you look nice, as if we as women are silent, brainless mannequins that cannot utter a single independent, collective thought. That is an insult because if that is the sole reason someone is hired then that is simply vacuous and vain. Yes, appearance does play a role in whether you are hired, but it should not be the single determining factor. Skills? Experience? The novel concept of whether you would fit in the company. There are many variables and determining factors in who is selected for a position. I find it degrading that appearance is named as the most important factor. It is disgusting as well.
Yes that does work but should it? Should someone work at a nuclear reactor plant because they look nice or because they actually know what they are doing?
The hr guy is not being correct, AI is used for many things, they use filters based on email (example: if someone uses an AOL email it tells them that your older and your app is rejected, another point if you have an ethnic sounding name(rejected), he is telling people what they want to hear and not what is fact.
Bryan is clueless. Can you trust a guy who thinks candidates have had power over the recruiting process in the past. He fails to answer questions on his channel and gets butthurt when challenged
I applied to 6 jobs in 2022, that I felt well qualified for. I got interviews in 4, offers from 3 of them. I work in I.T. not everyone goes thru the ringer.
the aged old techniques still work. Submit your resume, follow up with a phone call. Ask to speak with the hiring manager etc. They still work in today's technology environment.
This does not work. I have done this and I was told it was inappropriate; I should only apply online. No one wants to speak with you directly to start.
Most of the time there is no way to make a phone call. It's all automated systems, and good luck if you leave a message that they actually call you back. Hiring managers won't take cold calls when they have a hundred resumes sitting on their desk already. Even networking is a crapshoot. I've had some people submit my resume by hand only to be told I need to submit my resume online and will be put in the pile like everyone else. It's brutal.
@@dazlederose From my experience it isn't that people don't want to talk to you, but it's that a bunch of other people are doing the some thing and they can't keep up so it's easier for them if you apply online and cross your fingers.
In my experience this advise is complete bullshit. -Unless your friend in the company is a/the hiring manager, the decision on whether or not you get a job is out of their control--and, by extension, out of your control -If you are the friend trying to help a friend get a job at the company you work at, and you yourself are not a/the hiring manager, again the decision is out of your control
This is all bs, how are you supposed to network when you don’t know a single person at the company you’re applying to? This only works if you have friends in high places or straight up nepotism. This advice is useless information for the typical person that just wants/needs a job.
People need to understand that these jobs are primarily OVERSATURATED. Go become a nurse. You will have a guaranteed job and make very good money... Instead people go for IT when everyone is doing that and are surprised when 950 people apply to one job
100 percent yes but it's deeper than that. You need schooling to become a nurse and the pay isn't always great for the hours. There is a reason some of these jobs are desperate for work.
My dad talks about this. Very qualified and experienced in management. He watches minority women talk about a new salad bar at the office all day and get paid what he is.
I can tell you from working in recruiting that this is 100% not true. In fact, minorities most often get passed over even when they are most qualified. At several firms the recruiters skip people with “hard to pronounce names,”even though the person had nothing to do with the name they were given. This is actually illegal but EXTREMELY common. Another illegal, but common practice is that for Hispanic or black female applicants it is generally assumed that they are single parents and many companies do not hire them because they feel they will need extra time off to care for sick children/pick up and drop off to school, etc., In regard to minorities I would say that the only advantages are usually Asian candidates which includes those from India Pakistan, etc. It is generally assumed that they are smarter and more qualified than even the white candidates, even if their résumés indicate less education or credentials.
@rightsideofleft6130 i can tell you from using my eyes that this is 100% true. Just a couple years ago a guy applied at duck duck go and was rejected, and then made an application as a woman with less experience and misspelling in the resume and was selected to move forward. HR is the biggest cancer of all organizations.
1. Internal Applicant
2. Employee Referral
3. Sourced Candidates
4. Inbound Applicants
pretty much!
I also think job fairs are crap unless you know exactly what you are looking for and are exceedingly talented.
@@rachelm9350 As a recruiter that worked job fairs years ago, I have only talked to 1 qualified person in maybe 20 job fairs. They are probably good for entry-level roles because that what most of the attendees were back then.
Me: Apply to ~90 IT jobs, got ~7 interviews, 2 job offers
Wife: Help create her resume and apply to 6 Nursing jobs, got 6 interviews, and 6 offers....
Really depends on the job supply/demand
This is the most interesting perspective honestly. Like it's taking a new perspective that says maybe the market you're in is over competitive. And the other markets where ppl aren't complaining are where one should apply.
I really appreciate this perspective buddy.
bingo
My ex gf didnt understand this. Shes an ex for a reason.
Completely true. The problem isnt so much that there aren't these opportunities it's that we push kids into the same jobs (like tech) that become oversaturated and aren't even what they wanted to do
You used to be able to walk up to a construction site and be hired. You still can do stuff like that, I saw a welder get hired on like that in 2022.
Hiring is a joke, we need to get out of the hiring ways we do now. Someone applied for 836 jobs in the last 3 months, 836 applications??!!?!?!? WOW, how is that even possible. Out of those 836, only 15 reached out, and only 5 interviewed and landed 1 job. What is the percentage of that? That is archaic truly...
I applied for 6 jobs that matched my I.T. skills well. I got 4 interviews and 3 offers within a couple of weeks. Went with best fit for me. Then got 2 more offers from job and clients I had left. Now make 50% more money. Not all of us go thru that mess.
@@DearSX what are you IT skills that you were able to hone so precisely on the job?
That's 10 a day. Not that impressive. Between Indeed, Monster, LinkedIn. Totally possible.
That just means most were not qualified and just spammed the job posting
It’s because LinkedIn and Indeed make it super easy to apply to honestly junk. I know someone who hits those kinds of numbers and he applies for just everything.
When I moved to a new country at age 50 - with a "complex" work background - I spent several months networking intensely. The job I ultimately got was created by the organisation that hired me because they recognised that I could so something worthwhile for them.
I have worked in tech for 25 years. I have never once ever gotten an interview by applying directly to a corporate website for a job. Every single interview has always come through an American recruiter. Don't waste time on the Indian recruiters. They don't even have the requisition.
I have been lucky with Indian recruiters twice from the same company. I wouldn't say you can't get a job trough an Indian recruiter. It's just rare and highly unlikely.
@@Bladorage That or they are scammers, I fell for one a couple of years ago.
A lot of times they are just looking for your info to sell to scammers.
Most of the time applying is a waste of time. The recruiter has to find you.
If I see an Indian name in a text, or message on LinkedIn or indeed, I don’t even respond. Too many scammers and I don’t respect a company that outsources outside of the US.
The problem is, over 80% of IT and Tech recruiters in the U.S. are from India!! The American IT and Tech recruiters are rare in IT and Tech in the U.S.!!
I’ve gotten a lot of jobs from networking and it is the way to go. My network has all retired or passed away so I’m having to figure out new way to get a job. I work with a variety of recruiters for jobs. I do contract work so all of them don’t last very long. I have been looking for full-time work, but none of those are panning out. When I first got laid off in April, I spent 12 hours a day applying for jobs not one call not one. I reconnected with the recruiters I knew and I’ve been keeping busy but I need full-time work. You have given some great tips on the video.
Bryan from A Life After Layoff! I'm retired, but I recommend Bryan to those who are not, and are looking for a career change. And I give out Ken Coleman books, too.
You can not treat human beings like algorithms.
Companies do NOT want you to walk your resume into their company. These two guys may think that is a benefit but the truth is that you won't get past the receptionist and you will be told to apply online. I have been looking for a job for 1 1/2 years and have applied to over 100 positions and hear back less than 5% of the time.
You can get past the receptionist. You have to talk casually (converse) (network) and kinda find out what they are looking for or what their immediate needs. And present your skills/strength that you are the solution. That receptionist will call the hiring/manager for you. Once you have that oppurtunity treat that as interview and show your knowledge skill and how you can be the solutions to their problem. You have to research the company first to get the picture how they do things. I did that to evey single job. I once move to new state no network or connection. That receptionist was the first connection. She was able to call the HR manager and the COO to meet and talk to me. They were not hiring but was very interested (first impression last) and was ask to submit my resume and week later scheduled a formal interview and was hired. Being proactive and be in person so they can evaluate your skills and what you can do still work these days.
I've had three jobs at major organizations and got them all by contacting a bunch of recruitment agencies in the city (like twenty or thirty), writing down their contact details and following up regularly by telephone and email. I did this rather than applying to the organizations directly. Most recently I started again as a temp at the bottom, as a way in, and was encouraged by co-workers to apply for a permanent position, with a promotion, within a year.
Applying for jobs is the hardest way to get a job. You might not have the strongest resume, but knowing someone in the building is a game changer. It's all a SICK JOKE!!!
Little fish in a big pond will never get noticed. Find the little pond.
Exactly how I got my present job. I found a company that is 100 to 500 employees and did things old school. Hiring manager saw my resume, called me in for an interview, and hired me the next week. Both of us cut all this unnecessary nonsense. She knew her job...I know my job well. 6 months later we're happy with the outcome.
I actually got my last two jobs by applying to a job post. It can be done!
I'm 56 and my resume has NEVER gotten me a job. It was always talking with someone or being referred by a previous co-worker/friend.
80 to 90% of the time doing that will get you an interview or a job.
I don’t like this…I don’t like to rely on someone or make people feel they did me some favor. I’ll get jobs based on my merit…so that I can sink or swim based on my skills, education and experience. If I wanna leave the job I must not feel tied to it
Doesn’t work so well right now when everyone is doing the same thing. Referrals today don’t even guarantee an interview.
Man of tomorrow - it’s the same thing. Doing good work for people and being a good person to work with builds those relationships. Along the way people forgot that people buy, people hire, and people work.
@@manoftomorrow5987 Just listening to your thought process has demostrated you do not have merit.
There used to be a plethora of jobs, then corporations began outsourcing. Now we're fighting for basic positions like those same countries they recruited from...
WE ALL KNOW THIS. I cant imagine being a young person trying to get in the club. Thats all it is a big country club of people who know eachother.
Recruiters have done nothing but create unnecessary roadblocks for good people trying to better themselves. Hiring managers need to get off their butt and start being more active in the recruiting process for people they would actually oversee.
Thinking back, im in my late 20s and ive gotten one job from online resumes. Everything else, serving, IT, construction, management, its all been walk in or somebody i know
So that's your big secret--just know somebody? Gee, I would have never thought of that
How the heck is the advice to not apply but get a referral from someone internal. Like most people DON'T just know people who already work for the company and then trying to reach out to random employees asking for a referral is mad weird because they don't know you. But finding a job is time sensitive and sometimes life or death for some people so they can't just spend time trying to make friends and get to know these random employees. Applying is all most of us have right now.
Be so fr please
The problem with employee referrals and personal connections to someone who works there is that it isn't always possible. You're not always going to know someone, and when you do, its most often going to be your neighbor's cousin's best friend's brother who is the janitor or something. If I only applied to places where a friend worked I'd never apply because I don't know anyone who works for companies I want to work for.
It is possible to network to get a referral. i.e. LinkedIn and cold email.
employers want someone who has a masters degree to work for 11 dollars an hour.
No then you get rejected for being oVeRqUaLiFiEd
true. A lot of jobs are like this.
Hyperbole
This has been my experience too. Job listings with a laundry list of requirements and laughable pay. Corporate greed is really the issue with this current job market.
It’s not WHAT you know, it’s WHO you know.
Work with your strengths, know your advantages, and be persistent. Most of all leave a good first impression. If you get an in person interview things like Thank You cards help keep you in an employer's mind.
So the secret was what everyone kind of already knew?...
Know someone.
It's tricky to know the right someone. Everyone I ever knew was going for the same jobs as me, and were either themselves not knowing how to get in, or were NOT about to help me if they did!
The problem is, over 80% of IT and Tech recruiters in the U.S. are from India!! The American IT and Tech recruiters are rare in IT and Tech in the U.S.!!
"Might as well buy a lottery ticket while you are at it" Hopefully this quote from Ken resonates with job seekers and they understand the quality of your search is more substantial than the quantity. Great clip!
Amen. Too many people just apply to random crap
I've had over 20 jobs and not 1 came from being referred. You used to be able to apply and get a job. Now you have to network and look to make friends and kiss a** to get a pinkie toe in the door to keep a roof over your head. Also, we are no where near as social as we used to be because of technology so it is VERY difficult to do this. People in general you try to network with/ make friends to do this strategy are pretty closed off. We are living in an unsocial age.
Get the right job!
I am very blessed to have intelligence, unique skills, and experience. I will choose one job, apply, get an interview, and then get a job. It's been like this for many years. The only problem is that there are not too many jobs for me. Maybe one job shows up once per month. I am looking for jobs on Indeed and on private agencies for household staffing. I make 6 figures and I am a combination of housekeeper/house manager/assistant/cook/personal shopper/pet sitter for high-net-worth clients.
This was clearly intended for me. Timely advice.
People should not send in a ton of applications. They need to find sectors of the economy that are hiring and try to apply directly on their site. Research companies/ agencies first before applying.
Ken’s next suggestion is to print off 100 resumes and walk around to different businesses and hand them out. I swear this guy is the world’s youngest boomer. Hasn’t anyone ever told him that networking will get you a job, but it also ensures that you’re chronically underpaid because you’re relying on favors in order to be employed rather than skills that are in demand that you can demand a high high wage for?
Sounds like you can't network.
@@Charlay_Charlay no, I’m speaking as someone who’s done well by just engaging with the market on market terms, not begging friends for a break.
@@bg8753 yup..can't network.
@bg8753 Sounds like your in a bubble....I think a lot of people have "engaged" in the market and guess what...not everyone succeeds and you have to do more then "engage". If you think networking is just begging for friends for jobs then you obviously don't know how this country works.
I believe this but it just hasn't been true in my life. I've gotten almost all my jobs just through applying. Did I work my butt off to tailor each resume to the job I was applying for? Absolutely.
Great conversation. I'm also a recruiter by trade like Bryan.
Yes there is some truth to it's who you you know. I've worked with a lot of hiring managers who tell me "hey I worked with so and so, and he/she is my top candidate." This is before they even apply to determine if the meet the min quals, or before I even screen then. So already there's some bias/partiality that I have to try and unpeel from the hiring manager. Most of the time the hiring manager will go with someone they know and worked with vs taking a chance on someone who meets all the qualifications. Im not saying it's right, but it does happen.
Good add at the end. It isn't right but our system functions more on whether or not people like you over how qualified you are.
2024 and we're just figuring out how recruiters work? Not everyone is in some buddy buddy good ol' boy group like the Ramsey show click. It's a numbers game for most of us, no matter who you "know". Because if you really "knew" people, you wouldn't be applying for a 9-5 job.
I mean this recruiter definitely doesn’t represent most recruiters anyways. He’s always just wrong and I’m not sure if he’s a troll or grifter at this point. Might be both.
Anyways to be honest the job market isn’t bad. I just got a new job. I see a lot of success out there. But people online are moping but I wonder if there’s something they aren’t disclosing that makes it hard for them. Like one of my old coworkers who very clearly lies on his resume and has been fired from 3 jobs in 1 year or another friend of mine who worked for a fraudulent company. Stuff like that.
@@ninjagirl226 This recruiter lost his job so started scamming people. Getting out of work desperate people to give him money for advice.
@@ninjagirl226yeah when someone starts talking about networking instead of actual careers that are in demand I check out. There is no real information in just telling people to network.
I worked at a company where the internal candidates got put on blast for applying. It was typical for the Hiring manager for the job you applied to, to talk to your manager. It was very likely to blow up in your face so people didn’t apply internally much. Many times a person would quit the whole company and get rehired under a different manager. It was stupid considering RSU vestings and such but it occurred often.
In the company I worked for 10 years and had would apply for internal jobs and always got over looked they hired those outside. I think it was bc if you did great at one job they may not want you to go anywhere.
My fear with optimizing my resume is sending the wrong message that Id actually be great at the job when I know I won't. Then they be at the job looking at me like 😑
I would say, try to get in the company another way, unless you are really qualified, I would offer to meet with the operations manager, show up or call, be in person, speak so they can hear your voice, because applications are like looking through a needle in a haystack, and who wants to do that?
Self-employment could be less of a bs hassle.
Since 1991 I've gotten all my jobs through my network, until now. None of them have positions open. I've been unemployed now 10 months.
That’s the issue right there. Now you got to go out there and hustle and find it like everyone else and it seems like you don’t know how to navigate the market.
@@manoftomorrow5987 there was a learning curve. But it's more than that. I'm 60, 5ish years to retirement. A lot of companies don't want to invest the effort for a short term employee. Also I've been in my field 40 years. That puts me in the high end of pay range. I've low balled my salary requirements but companies see that as a flight risk.
If you don't mind me asking what industry are you experienced in? Trying to get an idea for what job markets are struggling and what job markets are fairing off a little better
@@thespaceginger117 software engineering. It's brutal right now.
@@Thexbin now imagine trying to break into tech rn like me from a non trad background💀its tough out here
I have found that if a company contacts me for an interview from submitting an online resume, the company is typically very unprofessional and toxic and desperate to hire. I stopped applying online and I go to the company in-person with my resume. Works every time!
Please note: I do wonder if my last name has prohibited recruitment from reaching out to me, as well.
So when you go in to the building, who do you ask to speak with and when was the last time you had to apply for a job?
Why do they bring in a recruiter like they are an expert? It is like bring in a car salesmen as an expert on cars. They usually know very little. All a recruiter does is filters resumes based on keywords and schedules interviews. Just like a car salesmen usually knows very little about the car.
Bryan is kind of clueless
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AI is used to filter this very comment section.
I think Americans get 1000s of resumes from India. So they put those filtering apps up. Hahaha
Automated HR software is NOT helping hire the right person!! PERIOD
80% of people who are employed knew someone who helped them get it
Having great work experience, even if it is working at the same job while going to college for 4 years
Please don't judge people
So basically, it's not what you, it's who you know.
I would think the hiring hierarchy would be being literal family of those in the power of hiring before being an internal employee.
Yep. Nepotism is #1. It's not always who you know but who your mom, dad, or uncle is.
@@keneticchannel absolutely
I've met people who get a job because of family and are literally inept human beings on their own let alone qualified
I am going to be 64 and I almost always get hired. Why? Because I look nice, that is why. I exercise a lot, wear stylish clothes, and wear pretty makeup. My hair is not gray. I also have energy. The pace of my speech is fast and current. I do not smoke. You absolutely must exercise on a regular basis. When doing video interviews, make sure your lighting and background look good. Invest in a ring light. There are tons of videos showing you how to dress and look good on video interviews.
What does exercise have to do with getting a job?
You are off your rocker
Oh my God! I read this response and had to laugh. It is superficial, shallow and archaic. Women are more than beautiful window dressing. What the hell does exercise contribute to the employment process? This was a high lighted response which is even more comical. You get hired because you look nice, as if we as women are silent, brainless mannequins that cannot utter a single independent, collective thought. That is an insult because if that is the sole reason someone is hired then that is simply vacuous and vain. Yes, appearance does play a role in whether you are hired, but it should not be the single determining factor. Skills? Experience? The novel concept of whether you would fit in the company. There are many variables and determining factors in who is selected for a position. I find it degrading that appearance is named as the most important factor. It is disgusting as well.
Yes that does work but should it? Should someone work at a nuclear reactor plant because they look nice or because they actually know what they are doing?
You see two packages that contain the same product, one is in a beat up package and the other package looks new, which one do you want to buy?
The hr guy is not being correct, AI is used for many things, they use filters based on email (example: if someone uses an AOL email it tells them that your older and your app is rejected, another point if you have an ethnic sounding name(rejected), he is telling people what they want to hear and not what is fact.
That’s not true.
Bryan is clueless. Can you trust a guy who thinks candidates have had power over the recruiting process in the past. He fails to answer questions on his channel and gets butthurt when challenged
KNOW PEOPLE
When companies can descrm in na
We have to many people. We need less people and more jobs.
I applied to 6 jobs in 2022, that I felt well qualified for. I got interviews in 4, offers from 3 of them. I work in I.T. not everyone goes thru the ringer.
Ah so you're the guy who invented AI, got it.
You're the exception to the rule
Things have drastically changed since 2022.
It's pure luck, chance and who you know. I would not get a job in today's market.
ATS system is pure garbage
the aged old techniques still work. Submit your resume, follow up with a phone call. Ask to speak with the hiring manager etc. They still work in today's technology environment.
This isn't going to work with female hiring managers. They are going to feel like you are a stalker.
@@ad6417 no it won't.
This does not work. I have done this and I was told it was inappropriate; I should only apply online. No one wants to speak with you directly to start.
Most of the time there is no way to make a phone call. It's all automated systems, and good luck if you leave a message that they actually call you back. Hiring managers won't take cold calls when they have a hundred resumes sitting on their desk already. Even networking is a crapshoot. I've had some people submit my resume by hand only to be told I need to submit my resume online and will be put in the pile like everyone else. It's brutal.
@@dazlederose From my experience it isn't that people don't want to talk to you, but it's that a bunch of other people are doing the some thing and they can't keep up so it's easier for them if you apply online and cross your fingers.
20,000 applications for a job, meanwhile this guy will come on tommorrow and give us a talk about how nobady wants to work.
In my experience this advise is complete bullshit.
-Unless your friend in the company is a/the hiring manager, the decision on whether or not you get a job is out of their control--and, by extension, out of your control
-If you are the friend trying to help a friend get a job at the company you work at, and you yourself are not a/the hiring manager, again the decision is out of your control
This is all bs, how are you supposed to network when you don’t know a single person at the company you’re applying to? This only works if you have friends in high places or straight up nepotism. This advice is useless information for the typical person that just wants/needs a job.
This video was click bait.
People need to understand that these jobs are primarily OVERSATURATED.
Go become a nurse. You will have a guaranteed job and make very good money... Instead people go for IT when everyone is doing that and are surprised when 950 people apply to one job
Nurses are leaving nursing as well people are tired of bedside nursing
23 patients and no help for a 12 hr shift ain’t no joke
100 percent yes but it's deeper than that. You need schooling to become a nurse and the pay isn't always great for the hours. There is a reason some of these jobs are desperate for work.
yeah and then the market adjusts and then its the next job that you need to "just go commit 6 years to"
Let me guess try harder
Nepotism smh 🤦
Completely BS
very ignorant people
Nobody scared to work yet back to 1999 to 2024
Say you're a minority female (no matter what) and watch the offers come in.
Lies, Nepotism from any background watches the offers come in.
My dad talks about this. Very qualified and experienced in management. He watches minority women talk about a new salad bar at the office all day and get paid what he is.
I can tell you from working in recruiting that this is 100% not true. In fact, minorities most often get passed over even when they are most qualified. At several firms the recruiters skip people with “hard to pronounce names,”even though the person had nothing to do with the name they were given. This is actually illegal but EXTREMELY common.
Another illegal, but common practice is that for Hispanic or black female applicants it is generally assumed that they are single parents and many companies do not hire them because they feel they will need extra time off to care for sick children/pick up and drop off to school, etc.,
In regard to minorities I would say that the only advantages are usually Asian candidates which includes those from India Pakistan, etc. It is generally assumed that they are smarter and more qualified than even the white candidates, even if their résumés indicate less education or credentials.
@rightsideofleft6130 i can tell you from using my eyes that this is 100% true. Just a couple years ago a guy applied at duck duck go and was rejected, and then made an application as a woman with less experience and misspelling in the resume and was selected to move forward. HR is the biggest cancer of all organizations.
ai is completely fuckin random and you need to work out more