Patrick, another certification of a Big Block Chevelle SS. With your knowledge on the 1970 Chevelle system no one has to worry if you come to town. It's the Real Deal here in Oklahoma. Your comments and expertise is appreciated, nothing like the raw muscle of the old days. Keep going. Your Friend, Raymond
Thank you for making these videos ! I've owned 6 Chevelles in my 62 years and thought I knew a lot about them. Until I started watching you a few years ago !
That's crazy, a 454 with an open rear axle. A posi should have came standard with the 454 engine. It's a shame the original engine got lost, but a lot of stuff can happen in 53 years. Still a nice survivor. There is going to be a lot of paint to remove, in hard to reach areas, to be able to restore this one right. I hope for the owner and the person restoring it that the paint is not hiding bad news in the quarters and around the back window. Some low budget repair men are masters at carving cars out of a bucket of plastic. If all the panels are like the floors then all should go well. Thanks Patrick, I always enjoy your vids.
If you ever need a car inspected, Patrick Nichols is the one to call. He is very knowledgeable and informative. Thank you for making the trip to Hollis! Now we just need to finish the car!
Thanks for sharing this, your right this a really great car👍, l see,what you saying though, sometimes unfortunately pieces, can be missing, but we should appreciate it, for what it,is.
YOU ARE THE "MAN" - expert on 70's Oh how I would love to have a 69 SS 396 again...As a former Virginia State Trooper, I sold mine in 73 for 1200.00 OUCH! Gary - Wytheville, VA
Dude I'm nearly 29 now and me and my dad talk about it all the time we never jumped on some or the deals we used to see when I was like 10-19 but I feel like in the last 10 years everything has been shooting up luckily I held onto one of my Fd rx7's lol dad and mom still kick themselves for selling the corvettes and 4 speed firebird, 67 fast back list goes on I wasn't making the same mistake!
I have a 396 car i bought last September if you want to look at it sometime I'm not to far away from you in Trezevant TN. No build sheet no original motor or trans. Its nothing special but it makes me smile everyday.
Sounds like someone didn't want the fake VIN stamp video up- why let you in with a camera in the first place? But I suppose you have to respect privacy requests, if they are made in good faith.
Can you please do a video of your own cars ?? I'm sure I'm not the only person wanting to see your collection. I'm a die hard Ford guy have a original 69 mach1 428scj but God I love chevelles one of the sexiest cars ever made I'm looking for a 72SS my dad had one and I love it
Might be worth it to run a DMV check on it. Or talk with the previous owner and see how many previous owners .. see how far you might get back to find out more information.. doubtful but possibly , the original engine could be somewhere to be found which would be outstanding 👍
@@scotmandel6699 it has happened before for crazier stuff! It has been years since I read the article and I can't quite put a name on the particular model (I believe it was some sort of concept car from the 50s? ) anyways the original engine was located and reinstalled yes the engine more than likely had severe failure and ended up as scrap but its worth a shot and yeah even if it is around you most likely will not find it but why not check thats a huge difference in value and I would feel pretty good reuniting the body with its original engine wouldn't you?
In 1970 there was an LS 4, 345 HP, LS 5, 390 HP, and an LS 6, 450 HP 354 engines available in the chevelle. Source, 1970 chassis service manual. My dad owned an LS 5.
hi patrick , i bought one of these 35yrs ago and parked it in a garage, it has a CRV 1128B1 rear end and built in Arlington texas, what could that mean? it a 4spd and console, tach and gauge, cowl induction hood, but i dont have the original engine or trans.
@@patrickglennnicholsmusclec1674 thank you for the info, as a life long chevelle owner i love these videos because i learn something new about these awesome cars every time 👍
Not sure I gathered the difference between an LS5 and LS6, or rather, how to determine. Is it the presence of a particular numbers matching engine that seals it?
Sometime in the 70s GM started using a "spid" label, which listed the RPOs, but yeah, before then you had to find the build sheet or the window sticker to be 100% sure.
I concur. It's original only once. Endorsed or not, it's history at least partially disappears when restored. Restoration should be avoided when possible
@@emmett442 Restoration shouldn't be avoided, it should be done properly. I'll agree that they shouldn't paint it though, there are way to many OVER restored cars out there... but even though the original engine is missing, they could at least keep the original paint.
I have a question. Over 20 years ago I purchased a ground up restoration of a 67 Camaro. I just recently discovered that the metal tag inside the drivers door is Missing. Basically I checked many many items around and Camaro But somehow is missed the missing metal tag inside the door. WHAT ARE MY options Now ? Thanks
I've never owned any GM product in my 67 years. The only vehicle I've ever hated in my life was a '70 SS454 LS6, and at the same time the only GM I would ever own would be a '70 SS454 LS6. I spent 10 months and thousands of 1973 dollars for the sole purpose of beating that '70 I hated. I had two street/strip cars that had neither been beat by anything that could be called a slightly street car-until that '70 showed up in town sending them both home the same evening. Factory, the '70 were beast, and slight work they became monsters-but I whupped it.
@@rdh5961 The '70 beat my 67 GT, w/406 small block, framed, caged, and my '69 Torino w/428 CJ. I built a '64 Barracuda w/340LA only stroked to 410, 6-pack, caged, framed. I don't know what all the '70 had done to it, seemed fairly stock, had stock exhaust manifolds anyway, had a cam, hi-rise, maybe head work. I was walking him at 1000 and he shut down, didn't run the other two pulls. I was mistaken, did have a quarter ownership in a 383 in a shorty slingshot, have owned a GM product. Worked on it, never sat in it's seat, wouldn't do so.
This may sound like sacrilege on this channel, but if the original engine is gone without a trace... might as well build an LS6 for it... That's what I'd do. I honestly don't understand why anyone would order an SS454 with an M22 and then only get the LS5 and highway gears without posi. Why did they think they needed the HD M22?
I'd do my best to find the original engine, it's got to be near where you found the car. Ask whoever you got the car from, if they know the whereabouts of the original 454 engine.
LMAO, I went to Phoenix to buy a 340LA that had been pulled out of a very low mile car a guy was building into a strip car. That 340LA went to Northern Missouri, no where near it's original body. That took place in '73.
Someone near me was restoring a 1970 SS454 Monte Carlo that had its original engine taken out sometime in the 80s. It was found a few towns over under the hood of an El Camino and reunited with the Monte!
I knew where one of these was in the mid 80s. We pulled the engine and trans out of it and dropped it in a 74 camaro. I think the j/y crushed what was left of the totaled rust bucket.
Patrick if you read this I was wondering if you could help me understand this,in the video I heard yiu say that two of the cars rims weren’t original to the car,what is the actual difference from these style rims from the cars that had them such as Pontiac,Oldsmobile,Buick
Patrick please start doing some 1970 Monte Carlos especially 4 speed big block cars. And just like with 71 and 72 chavelle's nobody really cares, 1970 is the only you're the matters
First of all he doesn’t uncover them. Someone calls him to come and look and give his opinion if it’s real or not. Don’t really know why. All of the info that he quotes from memory is readily available to anyone.
That’s where your opinion is incorrect. The authentic VIN sequence stamp on a 1970 Chevelle Muncie M22 DEFINITELY proves with 100% certainty it was born a Z15 SS454 optioned car.
@@patrickglennnicholsmusclec1674 you’re the expert, and people are paying you to endorse these cars, but if you don’t believe that with the amount of money involved, people aren’t restamping parts and passing off cars for what they aren’t, well that’s your opinion. I’ll stand by “without a build sheet or documentation, you’re making an educated guess”.
Hey Patrick i enjoy your videos but i was wondering why you always do 70 chevelles ?never see you doing inspections on 71 or 72'S. They're the same body.!!!!! Just wondering !!! Cause i have a 72 Chevelle SS...
1970 SS Chevelles are the most sought after muscle car on the planet. The LS6 is the King of all muscle. I’ve concentrated the vast majority of my work and research on this model.
It doesn’t. It makes it 100% a Z15 SS454. The CRU rear in my opinion makes it more likely to be a LS5 and not a LS6. Not to mention the presence of the 5500 RPM tachometer.
Always get very excited when i get a notification from you . Another great car Patrick.
Patrick, another certification of a Big Block Chevelle SS. With your knowledge on the 1970 Chevelle system no one has to worry if you come to town. It's the Real Deal here in Oklahoma. Your comments and expertise is appreciated, nothing like the raw muscle of the old days. Keep going. Your Friend, Raymond
Imagine 10of these in triple black on hi po dealer lot in metro. NYC....yup saw em and sat in one on floor
Thank you for making these videos ! I've owned 6 Chevelles in my 62 years and thought I knew a lot about them. Until I started watching you a few years ago !
Gobi Beige one of my favorite colors on a 70 SS Chevelle.
Pontiac color. ,ayfair. Maize
That's crazy, a 454 with an open rear axle. A posi should have came standard with the 454 engine. It's a shame the original engine got lost, but a lot of stuff can happen in 53 years. Still a nice survivor. There is going to be a lot of paint to remove, in hard to reach areas, to be able to restore this one right. I hope for the owner and the person restoring it that the paint is not hiding bad news in the quarters and around the back window. Some low budget repair men are masters at carving cars out of a bucket of plastic. If all the panels are like the floors then all should go well. Thanks Patrick, I always enjoy your vids.
You've captured a beautiful Gobi Beige Z15 70 Chevelle Mr. Nichols! Thank you for sharing this wonderful muscle car example!
If you ever need a car inspected, Patrick Nichols is the one to call. He is very knowledgeable and informative. Thank you for making the trip to Hollis! Now we just need to finish the car!
Ever find the. Build. Sheets?;
Patrick you've got the best job ever.
Thanks for sharing this, your right this a really great car👍, l see,what you saying though, sometimes unfortunately pieces, can be missing, but we should appreciate it, for what it,is.
Very nice find!! Thank You Patrick!! Sure would like to get one!! Even if I have to build it up my self!! Well done!!
Beautiful Chevelle. Thanks for the video Patrick.
I sit and wait patiently for each new video, like a child waiting for Santa 🎅🏻
Thank you sir very much.
excellent work Glen. thank you
Thank you for the Video Patrick, again what's not to like! all the best to you.
YOU ARE THE "MAN" - expert on 70's Oh how I would love to have a 69 SS 396 again...As a former Virginia State Trooper, I sold mine in 73 for 1200.00 OUCH! Gary - Wytheville, VA
Great color! You're in my neck of the woods.
Patrick ....another great Fish Fry
I’ve learned so much from you. Thank you for the knowledge. I just wish I would have bought one back when they were cheap. My uncle has an LS5 car.
Dude I'm nearly 29 now and me and my dad talk about it all the time we never jumped on some or the deals we used to see when I was like 10-19 but I feel like in the last 10 years everything has been shooting up luckily I held onto one of my Fd rx7's lol dad and mom still kick themselves for selling the corvettes and 4 speed firebird, 67 fast back list goes on I wasn't making the same mistake!
Thank you Sweet Jesus!!!!....This car does not have one of those vinyl top contraptions on the roof......Glory,Glory, Hallelujah!
Love that Rock Crusher Nothing Sounds like it.Perfect compliment to a 454.
Thanks PGN.
Central California watching
Nice find!!!
I have a 396 car i bought last September if you want to look at it sometime I'm not to far away from you in Trezevant TN. No build sheet no original motor or trans. Its nothing special but it makes me smile everyday.
Dang dude
It's got real good bones
Hope that restoration goes well for them
Nice and easy
A new PGN Muscle Car Barn Finds!!!! Glory day!!!!!
Great video......i truly believe that this is the actor matthew mconnaghey doing voiceover.
Thanks
Patrick’s dad : “You’re going to make a living inspecting old cars?! . Son, you’re going to starve “
Lol
Little did we know lol.
Yup at least when we were 18 or 19 years bàck in the day, we knew what we wanted to do! Lol
Solid-bodied survivor... Nice!
That is really close to the same color on my original '89 Caprice with the color being called Copper Beige.
That's a good looking chevelle
Nice clean chevelle
God I love these videos
Awesome chevy as always
Beautiful car
Nice One !!
I really enjoy your videos but how come the video posted before this one where the car had a fake vin stamp was deleted?
The owner of the car lot asked me to delete it. They said they didn’t want the inside of their facility on RUclips. Lol
Sounds like someone didn't want the fake VIN stamp video up- why let you in with a camera in the first place? But I suppose you have to respect privacy requests, if they are made in good faith.
Can you please do a video of your own cars ?? I'm sure I'm not the only person wanting to see your collection. I'm a die hard Ford guy have a original 69 mach1 428scj but God I love chevelles one of the sexiest cars ever made I'm looking for a 72SS my dad had one and I love it
Might be worth it to run a DMV check on it. Or talk with the previous owner and see how many previous owners .. see how far you might get back to find out more information.. doubtful but possibly , the original engine could be somewhere to be found which would be outstanding 👍
I'd do a thorough search before giving up. It would be a cool journey
@@rdh5961 put down the crack pipe
@@scotmandel6699 it has happened before for crazier stuff! It has been years since I read the article and I can't quite put a name on the particular model (I believe it was some sort of concept car from the 50s? ) anyways the original engine was located and reinstalled yes the engine more than likely had severe failure and ended up as scrap but its worth a shot and yeah even if it is around you most likely will not find it but why not check thats a huge difference in value and I would feel pretty good reuniting the body with its original engine wouldn't you?
In 1970 there was an LS 4, 345 HP, LS 5, 390 HP, and an LS 6, 450 HP 354 engines available in the chevelle. Source, 1970 chassis service manual. My dad owned an LS 5.
I always wonder what happened to the engine. Tempting to try and find it? Does that ever happen?
hi patrick , i bought one of these 35yrs ago and parked it in a garage, it has a CRV 1128B1 rear end and built in Arlington texas, what could that mean? it a 4spd and console, tach and gauge, cowl induction hood, but i dont have the original engine or trans.
CRV rear is 3.31 posi. The date stamp you have is 1128B1 is November 28, 1969 Buffalo, NY assembly plant first shift.
@@patrickglennnicholsmusclec1674 thank you for the info, as a life long chevelle owner i love these videos because i learn something new about these awesome cars every time 👍
great video. i do like chevelles.
Did they assemble super sport Chevelles at the Fremont, Ca plant? I’ve had 3 Malibu’s from Fremont.
Not sure I gathered the difference between an LS5 and LS6, or rather, how to determine. Is it the presence of a particular numbers matching engine that seals it?
I am a bit confused myself the difference of the two.
I think he was saying that some options are standard for LS5 but not LS6 or its at least really rare for LS6, like the tach.
Ls5 454 400hp,454 ls6 450 hp. Different heads,cam,pistons,intake and carb
Right on, right on..👍👍👍
Its a shame Chevy doesn't have a fender tag like Mopar with all the options, but that's crazy they want to restore it with original paint that good.
At that time Chevy had a firewall or cowl tag with the rpo codes.
Sometime in the 70s GM started using a "spid" label, which listed the RPOs, but yeah, before then you had to find the build sheet or the window sticker to be 100% sure.
@@user-neo71665 The cowl tag only shows a few options, not all of them by any stretch.
I concur. It's original only once. Endorsed or not, it's history at least partially disappears when restored. Restoration should be avoided when possible
@@emmett442 Restoration shouldn't be avoided, it should be done properly. I'll agree that they shouldn't paint it though, there are way to many OVER restored cars out there... but even though the original engine is missing, they could at least keep the original paint.
Awesome.....prestine irene
Have you done a video on the Emerald Turquoise LS6 4 Speed Car that was in an Estate Sale but owner was keeping it ?
Nice!!!!
Love all these “barn finds” that weren’t found in barns 😂
It's a euphemism, figure if speech bro. They don't have to be found in a barn
@@nzuncovered1845 yeah I know but the term is SOOOO overused these days 😂
@@cliffklimas8324 Yeah you're not wrong there lol
Aren't LS5 Chevelles' usually the Air Conditioned equipped version??
sometimes
@@bobsilver3983 they are mainly the 454 360hp engine
I've found that for every "rare" mass produced car known, there's at least 3-4 more undiscovered. It's been like this for decades.
I have a question. Over 20 years ago I purchased a ground up restoration of a 67 Camaro. I just recently discovered that the metal tag inside the drivers door is Missing. Basically I checked many many items around and Camaro But somehow is missed the missing metal tag inside the door. WHAT ARE MY options Now ? Thanks
I've never owned any GM product in my 67 years. The only vehicle I've ever hated in my life was a '70 SS454 LS6, and at the same time the only GM I would ever own would be a '70 SS454 LS6.
I spent 10 months and thousands of 1973 dollars for the sole purpose of beating that '70 I hated. I had two street/strip cars that had neither been beat by anything that could be called a slightly street car-until that '70 showed up in town sending them both home the same evening. Factory, the '70 were beast, and slight work they became monsters-but I whupped it.
Now that was a great blast from the past story! thanks for sharing. 👍
What were you driving?
@@rdh5961 The '70 beat my 67 GT, w/406 small block, framed, caged, and my '69 Torino w/428 CJ. I built a '64 Barracuda w/340LA only stroked to 410, 6-pack, caged, framed.
I don't know what all the '70 had done to it, seemed fairly stock, had stock exhaust manifolds anyway, had a cam, hi-rise, maybe head work. I was walking him at 1000 and he shut down, didn't run the other two pulls.
I was mistaken, did have a quarter ownership in a 383 in a shorty slingshot, have owned a GM product. Worked on it, never sat in it's seat, wouldn't do so.
@@Ray56z thank you for sharing!
The only time I see floors this solid in Wisconsin is after I welded in a new AMD 1 piece reproduction......
Nice car
This may sound like sacrilege on this channel, but if the original engine is gone without a trace... might as well build an LS6 for it... That's what I'd do. I honestly don't understand why anyone would order an SS454 with an M22 and then only get the LS5 and highway gears without posi. Why did they think they needed the HD M22?
👍 🍺
wonder if that motor is out there?... somewhere
LOL
I'd do my best to find the original engine, it's got to be near where you found the car. Ask whoever you got the car from, if they know the whereabouts of the original 454 engine.
LMAO, I went to Phoenix to buy a 340LA that had been pulled out of a very low mile car a guy was building into a strip car. That 340LA went to Northern Missouri, no where near it's original body. That took place in '73.
Someone near me was restoring a 1970 SS454 Monte Carlo that had its original engine taken out sometime in the 80s. It was found a few towns over under the hood of an El Camino and reunited with the Monte!
What do you mean by "open"rear axle? Do you have any videos of the chevelles that you own?
Damn she looks nice.
The original engine is gone, the car was drag raced in the past....... most famous muscle car saying ever.
hey there,great video ? son-inlaw has72 ss 454 were would we find the build sheet some say under the seats ?? thank's 4 any help jz
I've seen them in the springs of the lower portion of the back seat
@@hottroddchevelle thanks 4 the info jz
I knew where one of these was in the mid 80s. We pulled the engine and trans out of it and dropped it in a 74 camaro. I think the j/y crushed what was left of the totaled rust bucket.
Patrick if you read this I was wondering if you could help me understand this,in the video I heard yiu say that two of the cars rims weren’t original to the car,what is the actual difference from these style rims from the cars that had them such as Pontiac,Oldsmobile,Buick
good luck trying to get a question answered.
Looks like doc loves shop ?
Patrick please start doing some 1970 Monte Carlos especially 4 speed big block cars.
And just like with 71 and 72 chavelle's nobody really cares, 1970 is the only you're the matters
interesting/strange that a upgraded big block car with an M22 has an open rear
You uncover one a week maybe more. How many did they make. Uncover a 71 Hemi cuda convertible tucked away for 30 years that would be impressive
First of all he doesn’t uncover them. Someone calls him to come and look and give his opinion if it’s real or not. Don’t really know why. All of the info that he quotes from memory is readily available to anyone.
I wonder why the trunk hinges weren't the same color of the body?
Did the factory run out of 6500 tach and use 5500 on the LS6 you own?
A 3963512 block dated March of 1969 with 4 bolt main hi performance stamp on block would be a late production 427 or early production 454 ?
The fact is without a build sheet, no one knows what it really is. Nice car, but I wouldn’t be endorsing anything based on a tach and transmission.
That’s where your opinion is incorrect. The authentic VIN sequence stamp on a 1970 Chevelle Muncie M22 DEFINITELY proves with 100% certainty it was born a Z15 SS454 optioned car.
@@patrickglennnicholsmusclec1674 you’re the expert, and people are paying you to endorse these cars, but if you don’t believe that with the amount of money involved, people aren’t restamping parts and passing off cars for what they aren’t, well that’s your opinion. I’ll stand by “without a build sheet or documentation, you’re making an educated guess”.
Why would a 12 second (with slicks and posi) muscle car come from the factory with a open rear end? That's strange
Hey Patrick i enjoy your videos but i was wondering why you always do 70 chevelles ?never see you doing inspections on 71 or 72'S. They're the same body.!!!!! Just wondering !!! Cause i have a 72 Chevelle SS...
1970 SS Chevelles are the most sought after muscle car on the planet. The LS6 is the King of all muscle. I’ve concentrated the vast majority of my work and research on this model.
Is it for sale can a man buy it
Why does the m22 make the car more likely to be an ls5?
It doesn’t. It makes it 100% a Z15 SS454. The CRU rear in my opinion makes it more likely to be a LS5 and not a LS6. Not to mention the presence of the 5500 RPM tachometer.
Gimmie a Big Block, 4 on the Floor and 1 wheel peel Rear. What?
Ls5??? What is that??
Hydraulic cam, iron heads round chamber. Cast iron intake
I'd sell it and buy physical Silver
Wrong headlight switch knob
That doesn't make any sense, a 454 that was drag raced, and it has an open diff??? !!!
Makes perfect sense. How the car was born can be altered. This car currently has a posi rear but wasn’t born with it.
Not worth the money to restore without the original motor.
Ls6 didn't have power brakes
Nasty color.
It's Got To Be A LS6, The LS5 Didn't Come Out
Till 1971!!!
Really
In 1970 there were 4 454s. A 345 hp, 360hp, 390hp and 450 hp. The 390 hp was the LS5.
So easy to FAKE Chevy like this