"It had a good life." I can't tell you how much those words ease the feeling of losing a plane that you have thoroughly enjoyed. When you fly a plane so many times you know that it's not a question of "if" a plane will crash but "when."
arkansaswookie nope, he should have been checking the model before each flight, he should not have pushed its limits. Why was he doing that strange throttling as well? plus, his flying will damage the model, the way he just pulled up hard at speed was stupid
Right, and brake the wing off. I've had this happen before on a barrel roll, even with pre-flight wing check. It's a different kind of pressure involved when your airborne as opposed to sitting static checking for stress.
I've got one under construction and should be flying next year. Zenoah G-62 for power, covered with solartex and painted. The only thing that worries me is the flying wires. I've done pull tests and they seem like they are strong enough, but they are the only things holding the wings on. They are great flying models, hope you get one back in the air soon.
That was (an attempt at) scale flying. Many WW1 fighters had no throttle and the only way of modulating power was by switching ignition off and on. An early variant of PWM, come to think of it.
Did this model have a split wing design (2 wing halves)? It does appear the pilot's scale throttle management may have contributed to the excessive G load during this maneuver. Aren't these scale Bipes rated for 6 Gs+?
That sucks, but the best crash I’ve seen in awhile. Don’t know why people still build giant scale airplanes with wood spars when aluminum and CF is so readily available?
The man controlling it was smart as he got close to the ground to make sure it doesn't go somewhere else he hit full throttle so it went straight down.
They ought to use large scale models like this for WW1 movies, the wood-and-canvas construction and low-power rotary piston engines aren't far off the real thing!
You can clearly see exhaust pipe stick out behind the bottom of the engine cowling during flyby`s, this is a normal piston engine. He`s doing full/no throttle to make it sound like it`s a rotary engine. Incidentally, as you can see, that throttle on/off technique is also why it broke up mid-air, notice the engine deliver a lot of torque the split moment before the wing breaks off as he`s pulling up hard from that dive.
Sorry for your loss, but this kinda plane you need to fly it scale. You pulled too hard out of the dive and just put too much G's on the wing. Its just not built to handle that - unlike aerobatic planes.
I'm almost sure he was working the throttle like that on purpose to imitate how the real rotary powered Pups flew. They didn't have carbs, you had to blip the throttle to modulate power
Then at least you are lucky that you are not in the plane as a pilot and this is a scale model. But it's sad for the owner of this fantastically beautifully built model of the Sopwith Pup. Anyway, the hobby is, building, flying crashing and restoring or starting over. Every rc pilot has experienced et itself I guess so!
Dang, right on the runway. Bad enough you gotta stand around and pick up your broken plane pieces in front of everyone, but you have to bring a broom to finish up. BTW, nice video work.
What was up with pulsing motor? Man that was a bummer to lose it but I'll say one thing you did it with style. That was one of the best smash ups I've seen!
Terrible loss :L A few things I found odd however.. The throttle control seemed very weird.. with the off on off on.. it was lets just say, interesting. The camera work tho, impecable. The entire flight seems almost as if it was a simulation! Props to the entire group for the support to the pilot and the warning "Head's up" once something had gone wrong.
+Miliroxx28 Great question...The plane was being flown in a true scale manner. Aircraft of this era didn't have throttle controls. For slow flight (and landing) the pilot would push an "interruptor" which grounded the spark and killed the engine. He would release it quickly, so the engine would fire again from the momentum of the prop. That's the "burp, burp" of the engine that you hear.
DERP! I knew about how they didn't have traditional throttle controls and they would essentially turn spark plugs on and off, just didn't think that the craft was built to that scale!
Neither was it, as far as the engine goes. Notice no rotary engine as the plane would have come with. As mh annan says, the plane was being flown in a true scale manner. MANNER, being the key word here :)
i dont understand y people operating the camera ALWAYS zoom in so close before letting the viewer (ME) establish the relative size of the aircraft? i mean, it isn't until the plane actually hits the ground until we know how large (or small) it is. Without a point of reference (like a tree or a person OR SOMETHING) we have NO WAY of judging size????
Dear modellers. Please learn some engineering skills also. Didi you know you can test g-forces before actually flying. Else why not at least attach a parachute to the plane if you're going to attempt aerobatics..
That.......Was......Awesome!!! Sorry you had a complete mechanical failure and lost your beautiful airplane. I have sent quite a few into the ground myself over the years. It hurts, I know. ;-)
So... could this have been landed? With enough aileron and opposite rudder and elevator? Not knife edge but 45° or something? Seems like the pilot gave up. No one was hurt so probably the right decision though. Just wondering if it could have been flown out 🤔
he does not know how to fly scale maneuvers (sp?) ,, waaaay tooo much Gs on the wings for this scale,,happens all the time,,people think its a foamy and this is what happens,, ole USN vet
Jimmy Haley I agree that scale flying is different but I didn't see him do anything that really pushed the envelope. All he did was a loop or two, low throttle spin and a barrel roll attempt. Those maneuvers aren't really considered extreme IMHO.
the flying wires are what hold the wing together they failed an the right wings just came off the way is flying looks so animated u can put too much power on these birds an over stress the wings its a 1/3 scale bird where the real ones only went a top speed of 100 mph so this thing shouldn't really go over 35 mph max its a flying kite slow an relaxing
Sorry about that, but It made a GREAT video to watch. I would hazard a guess--It was a structural failure. Master of the obvious! Did that thing have a blip throttle on it?
+Mike Breen With a large-size plane, it has to disassemble for transport, and the connections that hold it together can be weak points. It didn't look like there were sleeving tube wing spars or other strong attachments involved.
First sorry to see this happen to such a great plane. And everyone wonders why i push the rule so hard about not flying towards the pits and pulling turns or loops. Glad he was in-line with the runway. Ahh our poor runway.
Id be devastated if that happened to mine. I wouldnt try. I once had a polestyrene plane that fell into a nose dive after the tail snapped in 2 at 20ft Lolz
"It had a good life." I can't tell you how much those words ease the feeling of losing a plane that you have thoroughly enjoyed. When you fly a plane so many times you know that it's not a question of "if" a plane will crash but "when."
there are two types of rc planes..... crashed and gonna crash
First RC plane in history to leave an impact crater... no bolt left unbent.
Wonder if the servoes were still usable.
I was spell bound there, the camera man did a great job, few get any good footage of a crash sequence like that. RIP.
to be honest i question the pilots skill because his flying was dodgy
No, the builders skill. The pilot did nothing wrong. If he had, then every pilot that does that same roll would have the same results.
arkansaswookie nope, he should have been checking the model before each flight, he should not have pushed its limits.
Why was he doing that strange throttling as well?
plus, his flying will damage the model, the way he just pulled up hard at speed was stupid
Right, and brake the wing off. I've had this happen before on a barrel roll, even with pre-flight wing check. It's a different kind of pressure involved when your airborne as opposed to sitting static checking for stress.
Jared Reabow hes throttling like that because ww1 biplanes had no throttle they used a blip switch that killed spark to slow down
At least the radio survived. That doesn't always happen in a crash.......
I think I saw a piece of fuel tubing that you could re-use.
🤦🏻♂️😝😝😝
the rest is scrap
also one tire
Maybe it should have been equipped with a ballistic recovery chute like those carried by hang-gliders.
Instead of yelling " heads up" yell "get a camera, get a camera."
Wife, "You look so tired, honey. Maybe take a nap." Pilot, "I crashed at the airfield." Wife, "I'm glad you got a nap in."
Tower controll: HEADS UP, HEADS UP, HEADS UP!!!.....AAWWW SHIT!
FAA report: Damn Kawasaki, "Wing broke!" "Must be pilot"
I've got one under construction and should be flying next year. Zenoah G-62 for
power, covered with solartex and painted. The only thing that worries me is the
flying wires. I've done pull tests and they seem like they are strong enough, but they
are the only things holding the wings on. They are great flying models, hope you
get one back in the air soon.
If each of your flying wires can hold your weight, you have done your job.
The twisting upward motion torn the wing off from the plane.
Heads up!
--Heads up!!
Heads up!
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Heads up!!!
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Heads up!!
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Heads up!
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Heads up!
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+DascCrescent Hey just a "HEADS UP" here the Heads UP!!!!!! ruined the video. lol
@RCmaniac 1:37
What's with the strange throttle control? The plane seemed to fly OK, but the wing failure seems to be a design/build problem.
Oudeis Eimi Yeah, the plane didn't seem to have been pushed beyond its capabilities.
It wasnt, he was pulling up hard and hitting the throttle at the same time.
That was (an attempt at) scale flying. Many WW1 fighters had no throttle and the only way of modulating power was by switching ignition off and on. An early variant of PWM, come to think of it.
That's not 800ft but nice crash.
No where near 800'
First that would of been too high for a AMA regulated field and it would of taken 3-4 times longer to reach the hole it made.
That was a very beautiful plane. Sorry to see that happen. Hope you got it replaced.
OMG
I feel sorry for the pilot. What was the reason of the broken wings?
"I feel sorry for the pilot. What was the reason of the broken wings?"..... He was pulling to much g therefore it was his fault!
800ft is a bit of a exaggeration...Unless that was above sea level.
Watch out for those Gs. The bigger the plane, the bigger the forces the planes structure has to cope with.
Sopwith Pulp.
Sean Coyne I
Lol
Sopwith Junk pile now!
Did this model have a split wing design (2 wing halves)? It does appear the pilot's scale throttle management may have contributed to the excessive G load during this maneuver. Aren't these scale Bipes rated for 6 Gs+?
That sucks, but the best crash I’ve seen in awhile. Don’t know why people still build giant scale airplanes with wood spars when aluminum and CF is so readily available?
the pilot pulled up too fast, if he hadn't pulled up so fast the wing would not have ripped off. I'm sorry for your plane.
The man controlling it was smart as he got close to the ground to make sure it doesn't go somewhere else he hit full throttle so it went straight down.
It sounds like they used the retract switch on the radio for the throttle!
the spars need to be made of carbon fiber,if your going to do a pull up after a lengthy dive like that.
They ought to use large scale models like this for WW1 movies, the wood-and-canvas construction and low-power rotary piston engines aren't far off the real thing!
You can clearly see exhaust pipe stick out behind the bottom of the engine cowling during flyby`s, this is a normal piston engine.
He`s doing full/no throttle to make it sound like it`s a rotary engine.
Incidentally, as you can see, that throttle on/off technique is also why it broke up mid-air, notice the engine deliver a lot of torque the split moment before the wing breaks off as he`s pulling up hard from that dive.
Sorry for your loss, but this kinda plane you need to fly it scale. You pulled too hard out of the dive and just put too much G's on the wing. Its just not built to handle that - unlike aerobatic planes.
Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! Couldn't agree more.
one of the worst wrecks on youtube. Good filming btw. I had to favorite this one.
J
Thank you for sharing Danny.
Damn, lovely aeroplane, lovely flying, great camera work. Gutted for the owner/pilot.
Scale flight performance. That is why he is on and off the power.
Puff of smoke at 3:22, the Red Baron got him...
Damn!...So sad.. R.I.P. little pilot.... :(
Sickening throttle management and knowledge of physics.
Wow man!!! That's what happens to a wing when the throttle go full on after a stall and the G's kick in
So sorry to the owner, but that's what happens to a biplane that was never designed for high speed diving.
I'm almost sure he was working the throttle like that on purpose to imitate how the real rotary powered Pups flew. They didn't have carbs, you had to blip the throttle to modulate power
Interesting.
Easy to blame pilot error when clearly the pilot is dead
Then at least you are lucky that you are not in the plane as a pilot and this is a scale model. But it's sad for the owner of this fantastically beautifully built model of the Sopwith Pup. Anyway, the hobby is, building, flying crashing and restoring or starting over. Every rc pilot has experienced et itself I guess so!
I feel sorry for the pilot.... cameraman was really "at the right time, at the right place"
Hell of a way to make an impression...
Dang, right on the runway. Bad enough you gotta stand around and pick up your broken plane pieces in front of everyone, but you have to bring a broom to finish up. BTW, nice video work.
I would have cried like a tiny little baby. If you need someone to talk to, I'm here for you.
Was there anything salvageable, aside from fuel line?
Very special! Nice sound and looks like really Sopwith Aircraft. Poor for crash down....
This is why pilots call their helmets "Brain Buckets". Sorry for your loss. What do you think caused the wings to seperate?
Id have felt lack smacking the chap who said "It's had a good life" whereas "Awwww, shit!!!" was definitely something to sympathise with.
I cant understand why he didnt land to check what was wrong with the motor !
I suggest the idea was to imitate the sound of a real rotary engine used in the full size back then. Wide open or off - no throttle
That's what I want to see in a good r/c crash. Usually they go down the nearest row of bushes LOL
What was up with pulsing motor? Man that was a bummer to lose it but I'll say one thing you did it with style. That was one of the best smash ups I've seen!
Is that why they call it snap roll lol
lol i see what you did u xD "oh. the pilot die....the pilot first to die.
this guy flying didn't really ever have a handle on it ,,,,too much time building, no fly-time ...sad....
That's the sad fate of scale model pilots: Built it for years, flew it for minutes.🤣
Props to the camera man who did his job!
What happened? Imo he flew the curve to aggressive and then went up too high which resulted in the wing breaking and the plane stalling.
That was painful to watch. Sorry about the loss.
Look like the two exhaust stacks and the one tire are still OK! :)
I tink wing broke .... HEADs UP!
Ouch man that sucks! Rip lovely pup!
I cried a little when I saw the wings break off.
Beautiful plane ... such a shame. Suggest that area made stronger on the next one ! As someone asked ... how big ?
Now that hurts. Sorry to the owner, but it was spectacular footage!
Just remember, the real thing used to happen all too frequently during WWI.
The invisible Red Baron strikes again
Poor Snoopy.
This is the "heads up" school of thought!:-) Very entertaining, these vids would be boring if it where not for the crashes:-)
Terrible loss :L
A few things I found odd however..
The throttle control seemed very weird.. with the off on off on.. it was lets just say, interesting.
The camera work tho, impecable. The entire flight seems almost as if it was a simulation!
Props to the entire group for the support to the pilot and the warning "Head's up" once something had gone wrong.
+Miliroxx28 Great question...The plane was being flown in a true scale manner. Aircraft of this era didn't have throttle controls. For slow flight (and landing) the pilot would push an "interruptor" which grounded the spark and killed the engine. He would release it quickly, so the engine would fire again from the momentum of the prop. That's the "burp, burp" of the engine that you hear.
DERP! I knew about how they didn't have traditional throttle controls and they would essentially turn spark plugs on and off, just didn't think that the craft was built to that scale!
+mh annan amazing accuracy
Neither was it, as far as the engine goes.
Notice no rotary engine as the plane would have come with.
As mh annan says, the plane was being flown in a true scale manner.
MANNER, being the key word here :)
2:44, Hideous, the pilot was decapitated but his eyes were still open!
It sounded and acted like my last weedwacker
Great plane. Hope to see you fly again soon!
Did someone say " it had a good life"??? LOL
Poor motor!
Poor scale pilot!
Construction error (field coonection error)? Two wings break like this!
i dont understand y people operating the camera ALWAYS zoom in so close before letting the viewer (ME) establish the relative size of the aircraft? i mean, it isn't until the plane actually hits the ground until we know how large (or small) it is. Without a point of reference (like a tree or a person OR SOMETHING) we have NO WAY of judging size????
Late to the party, but I couldn't agree more. It bugs me bad that they do this.
1:45 TOTALLY DESTRYED
1:30 for crash if you want ( worst noise ever hitting the ground )
Dear modellers. Please learn some engineering skills also. Didi you know you can test g-forces before actually flying. Else why not at least attach a parachute to the plane if you're going to attempt aerobatics..
That.......Was......Awesome!!! Sorry you had a complete mechanical failure and lost your beautiful airplane. I have sent quite a few into the ground myself over the years. It hurts, I know. ;-)
So... could this have been landed? With enough aileron and opposite rudder and elevator? Not knife edge but 45° or something? Seems like the pilot gave up. No one was hurt so probably the right decision though. Just wondering if it could have been flown out 🤔
Pilots still looks confident and optimistic!!!
What's with the throttle management? Off on off on etc etc.
Clearly lacking sufficient structure in critical areas, poor design.
John Smith camel was 25 plus years old,
Crashed and repaired old rebuild lead to joint failure at main spar and fuselage..
Pup
I'm not an expert on RC but is this style of plane just inherently hard to fly or is the pilot just not comfortable at the controls?
he does not know how to fly scale maneuvers (sp?) ,, waaaay tooo much Gs on the wings for this scale,,happens all the time,,people think its a foamy and this is what happens,, ole USN vet
Jimmy Haley I agree that scale flying is different but I didn't see him do anything that really pushed the envelope. All he did was a loop or two, low throttle spin and a barrel roll attempt. Those maneuvers aren't really considered extreme IMHO.
the flying wires are what hold the wing together they failed an the right wings just came off the way is flying looks so animated u can put too much power on these birds an over stress the wings its a 1/3 scale bird where the real ones only went a top speed of 100 mph so this thing shouldn't really go over 35 mph max its a flying kite slow an relaxing
Good thing you gave the heads up, I would hate to have that hit me on the head.
that's a shame.
As many times as it takes to alert everyone
The pilot didn’t do well either. 😂
Sorry about that, but It made a GREAT video to watch. I would hazard a guess--It was a structural failure. Master of the obvious! Did that thing have a blip throttle on it?
That's such a shame. Clearly some structural issue though.
+Mike Breen With a large-size plane, it has to disassemble for transport, and the connections that hold it together can be weak points. It didn't look like there were sleeving tube wing spars or other strong attachments involved.
First sorry to see this happen to such a great plane.
And everyone wonders why i push the rule so hard about not flying towards the pits and pulling turns or loops. Glad he was in-line with the runway. Ahh our poor runway.
Luckily the pilot is still being kept alive in a vat in a secret lab in Berlin.
I don't think it's a Kawasaki. Looks like a Husqvarna
Id be devastated if that happened to mine. I wouldnt try. I once had a polestyrene plane that fell into a nose dive after the tail snapped in 2 at 20ft
Lolz
Looked like it had no spar going thru the wing and it broke in half.
Why where they saying it's Clear right before that happen ???? Did they Rig the plane ?
WHAT???? The plane wasn't coming right AT SOMEONE!>>>>>
IT hit, exactly where it broke the wing....
80 feet?
WOW. WHAT A SHAME!
Sounds just like a real plane just before impact at 1:52
1:50 no problem your welcome
i can fix it! my dad is a tv repairman, he's got an awesome set of tools!
whats his name, *sammy?*
Foam core or balsa. with no wing spars.
1:54 was worth this video...
Ouch.....that sucks
01:56 ''there goes that kawasaki ohhh shiiiit''
That crash breaks my heart but that guy cracks me up every time.