Death of a Ziroli P-38

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
  • Second flight. Had elevator flutter and then no elevator control.

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  • @donlawrence1428
    @donlawrence1428 2 года назад +2

    wow, bad ending for a beautiful plane. that was a very thorough crash. nothing left in one piece!

  • @tungstenkid2271
    @tungstenkid2271 2 года назад +4

    As Worf might say- "It died well"

  • @richardhead8264
    @richardhead8264 6 лет назад +8

    I got a _bad_ feeling when I heard the discussion about control surfaces at 0:57
    I thought to myself _"Nothing good can come of this."_

  • @mdoyle1981
    @mdoyle1981 6 лет назад +3

    I can relate, I lost a Bryon's Originals Kfir to elevon flutter on the first flight; called them and they said, "oh, you must have gotten an early kit without the counterweight update". A couple hundred hours of work, down the drain and nothing to fly at their event, so I cancelled my trip too.

  • @djstar39
    @djstar39  12 лет назад +11

    Thanks! Yeah, it doesn't really suck more than this. Had to pick it up with a leaf rake (pieces were so small). Complete loss. Bummer but it's part of the hobby.

  • @chocolatte6157
    @chocolatte6157 6 лет назад +4

    Aarrgghhh!! I cannot imagine how that felt after all those hours of work. Weirdly, it died in a like manner of the real ones that experienced compressibility in a dive and could not pull out.

  • @ConvairDart106
    @ConvairDart106 11 лет назад +6

    In my experience with General aviation and RC, High wing tends to pitch up while Low wing tends to pitch down with flap activation. It takes a healthy dose of trim to relieve the control pressure. This has been my experience flying almost the entire lineup of singles from Piper and Cessna as well as a few Mooney's and Beechcraft.

    • @tedsmith6137
      @tedsmith6137 5 лет назад +2

      I own a number of low wing r/c planes. One pitches up with flaps, one pitches down and one does not change trim one bit. It seems to depend on whether the flap is simple, split, slotted or Fowler and whether the t/e is straight or swept (forward or aft).

  • @96royalstar21
    @96royalstar21 2 года назад +2

    When I was younger, 35yrs ago I had a quickie 500 with the wing foam core cut for 1/2 thickness and sheet-ed with a webra speed 40 with tuned pipe. I notice that I had a gap in the elevator between it and the stabilizer no slop in the control rod or clevis and thought it would be fine. I could hear it fludder in high speed runs but did not stop flying it. After one such run, the elevator stopped working but the plane wings could roll but that was it. I helplessly watched it flying straight but could not turn it, I picked a spot in the pasture next to ours and killed the engine rolled wings to drop altitude. It looked fine but there was a maintenance road with curb and it skipped into the curb and destroyed all of it, lesson learned.

    • @JustFlyIt09
      @JustFlyIt09 2 года назад

      I wish that I could go back and prevent all of my self-inflicted RC wounds!🙂

  • @driedjello
    @driedjello 2 года назад +3

    That's a painful loss. What a beautiful aircraft.

  • @theoriginalrabbithole
    @theoriginalrabbithole 5 лет назад +2

    Damn! and it's a Ziroli too. A lot of work went into that plane. Sorry for your loss. bro.

  • @eclipser2004
    @eclipser2004 2 года назад +2

    Beautiful model. That really sucks. Sorry to see this happen.

  • @djstar39
    @djstar39  12 лет назад +15

    RCflyyer1, No, never really determined what caused the flutter. The elevator was pulled out from the horizontal stab but we're not sure if the flutter caused that or if it was the cause of the flutter. Sucks but part of the hobby. Gotta move on! :-)

    • @touristguy87
      @touristguy87 6 лет назад

      ...that's why you're a RC hobbyist and not an aeronautical engineer.

    • @kgambo5157
      @kgambo5157 6 лет назад +2

      +touristguy87 umm quite a few are both, like Bert Rutan

    • @darrellcook8253
      @darrellcook8253 2 года назад

      It was both, one works on another, gap makes flutter, flutter increases the gap , it flutters more violently the gap says HA ha you die. Ailerons, elevator and rudder although I've had flaps cause flutter failure too. Everything I build has tight gaps or sealed gaps.

  • @IFLYBELL
    @IFLYBELL 10 лет назад +17

    It'll buff out. Sorry for your loss!

  • @TheReddog170
    @TheReddog170 12 лет назад +3

    Man that just makes your heart stop. Total bummer.

  • @peterruiz6117
    @peterruiz6117 8 лет назад +8

    The elevator flutter was never completely overcome.According to the test pilots ,even the balance "torpedoes" top and bottom did nothing but endanger pilots bailing out.

    • @carmium
      @carmium 8 лет назад +1

      Is that what did in the model, then? It just seemed to power right into the ground.

    • @djstar39
      @djstar39  8 лет назад +3

      +carmium Yes, the elevator fluttered and then I had no elevator control. The elevator came unhinged from the horizontal stab. I did pull the throttles back when it started its dive.

    • @77Avadon77
      @77Avadon77 7 лет назад +3

      That really sucks. My grandfather did some of the M.E. designs at lockheed for the P-38. He died at 98 a few years ago. We need to dig him up and have a word with him about this!! :-( lol

    • @SpcPoole
      @SpcPoole 6 лет назад

      Elevator buffetting was caused by inboard turning props. When the props were changed to outboard turning that problem was fixed. The balance wights where added to try and help with the problems cause by compressibility at close to Mach 1. This could happen at speeds as low as 425 IAS. That problem wasn't dealt with the insulation of dive brakes on late J and L models. The sad part is they had made kits for every P38 flying that didn't all ready have them. They were loaded on to a C57 and sent to the U.K. only to have the C57 shot down by a RAF Spitfire off the coast.

    • @ChrisMcLaren
      @ChrisMcLaren 6 лет назад +2

      No. I have read a lot about this and I know RC.
      On the full size planes, compressibility was the problem. Dive flaps is what fixed it, to extent it could be fixed. From the first-model YP-38 on, the props always turned outboard. I repeat, from YP-38 onward, including every model designed and built thereafter - D, E, F, G, J, L - the props continued to turn outboard.
      I have no idea where you are getting your information. Do tell.
      The "prototype" P-38, the XP-38 did have inwardly-rotating engines (before it crashed). However, all subsequent P-38's (including the first batch of YP-38's) had outwardly rotating propellers; Warren M. Bodie, in his book The Lockheed P-38 Lightning: The Definitive Story Of Lockheed's P-38 Fighter, states that, "Engine rotation was changed so that the propellers rotated outboard (at the top), thereby eliminating or at least reducing the downwash onto the wing centersection/fuselage juncture. There was, by then, no doubt that the disturbed airflow, trapped between the two booms, was having an adverse effect on the horizontal stabilizer. No problem was encountered in reversing propeller rotation direction; they merely had to interchange the left and right engines."
      The kits you refer to getting shot down en route were dive brake kits. And (when they worked), they did prevent pilots from dying in unrecoverable compressibility dives. However the P-38 was never going to make more sense than a Merlin-powered P-51 as a long-range escort in Europe, and so it was soon relegated to other duties once that airplane became available in numbers. P-38s were more complicated to fly, more expensive to build and maintain, and less reliable (in Europe, especially).
      In any case, this whole presumption is hopelessly wrong. This MODEL P-38 could not have died from compressibility or elevator flutter due to aerodynamic issues at a high Mach number. To suggest that is ignorant of physics. This plane was flying at low altitude (obviously) and low speed (no more than 80-90 mph). It probably died of a poor linkage or electronics - a bad control or servo arm, bad physical or electrical connection, bad or overwhelmed servo or receiver, or some combination. That is the both the simplest and most likely explanation, and by the way, it happens quite often in RC, even with today's better tech. I lost a FW190 to a bad receiver. I almost lost a P-51 to a bad gyro last winter. I've had batteries die unexpectedly. I've had electrical outages. I've had props break off in flight. You name it, fly often enough, it will either happen to you or someone you know.
      Anyway, sure was heartbreaking to see the crash. Beautiful airplane.

  • @johnswilley6764
    @johnswilley6764 6 лет назад +5

    That was a beautiful aircraft, lots of work. As a full scale pilot who also flies RC, the only time at which you need full power is during take-off. I doubt that the control surfaces were balanced (elevator, rudders, ailerons); flutter usually only occurs at higher (very high speeds), the IMMEDIATE resolution is to reduce airspeed, which MAY allow you to regain control. I know that the crash hurt, and wish you better "luck" in the future. BTW RC flight is much more difficult.

    • @bernardw4842
      @bernardw4842 5 лет назад +1

      I had flutter in a model once, thread on a pushrod wore off under vibration and the clevis went loose on the rod. Then the aileron started fluttering very fast then the whole wing panel made like a hummingbird. I throttled right back, just a good, lucky instinct I guess. That stopped or mostly stopped the flutter and was able to land it. That was an RCM Trainer 60, that wing is a durable design, I'd added shear webs which the design didn't have so maybe they helped. That's about the only time I know of a model getting bad flutter right through a wing panel and coming home in one piece. I since switched to heavy nylon clevises so it can't happen again. I saw it happen twice more, both times the model tore itself to pieces in a couple of seconds before the pilot fully realised what happened. Once was elevator and the tailplane fell apart then the model was uncontrollable, the other time was aileron like mine and the wing panel disintegrated. You don't want flutter.

  • @trenthowlett3671
    @trenthowlett3671 7 лет назад +1

    I often find r/c crashes a bit of a laugh, but for some reason not this one... It was a gorgeous build, I'm really sorry for the loss.

  • @CarlLydickRC
    @CarlLydickRC 7 лет назад +23

    Ouch... Hate to see that. It was a beautiful model.

  • @Doggeslife
    @Doggeslife 4 года назад +1

    Flutter is a sign of a disconnected elevator. I know that feeling. I had a .60 powered sport low wing that gradually went from horizontal to 90 degree vertical with my elevator stick axis feeling like a limp noodle...no connection at all.
    I saved the tail! :-(

    • @darrellcook8253
      @darrellcook8253 2 года назад

      I have a collection of tails saved. The only sometimes surviving part. Sometimes not.

  • @areyouavinalaff
    @areyouavinalaff 7 лет назад +4

    minus the ball of flames it was a very convincing crash impact for a model.

    • @TheSolongsidekick
      @TheSolongsidekick 6 лет назад

      Hahaha what? I'd love to see all these impacts you remember where the entirety of the airframe of a real plane is demolished.

  • @gerardjones7881
    @gerardjones7881 3 года назад

    heavy model, big engines, flying at full power, max speed.
    ANy slight mistake in linkages or hinges will do that.
    most of them seem to wipe out.

  • @TOPHAT1966GS
    @TOPHAT1966GS 7 лет назад +1

    2 to 3 years of time invested and only about 1:57 Seconds of grace is hard to swallow.

  • @RBAERO
    @RBAERO 6 лет назад

    Very sad. What you think. Is a design fault? Has lot's of videos of Zirolli's P-38 crashes and in they Web Store this plans is not more available.

  • @Aviator111167
    @Aviator111167 12 лет назад +1

    Ive been flying for 30 years and have never had elevator flutter. I don't get it.

  • @chuckbrasch4575
    @chuckbrasch4575 3 года назад

    What kind of RC airfield has lampposts and street signs right next to it? ? ?

  • @michaelhannah5376
    @michaelhannah5376 3 года назад

    Flutter is a very effective way to re kit a Model. The main reason why I am total OCD about tight slop free surface and I could not give a rat’s hind quarters if it is scale or not!!

  • @superancientmariner1394
    @superancientmariner1394 6 лет назад +4

    Elevator flutter....thats taking accuracy of the real thing to the Nth degree.

    • @TheSolongsidekick
      @TheSolongsidekick 6 лет назад

      ORLY?!? You sure about that? Because the real P-38 never had any tail flutter.

    • @davidreid8727
      @davidreid8727 5 лет назад

      @@TheSolongsidekick The real P-38 had elevator counter balance weights. They were there for a reason. Can you guess what that reason was ?

    • @TheSolongsidekick
      @TheSolongsidekick 5 лет назад

      @@davidreid8727 Wow you seriously need to do your research, especially before attempting a condescending tone like that and making yourself look like an idiot. They were for what they incorrectly thought was tail flutter. It was discovered almost immediately that they didn't help at all because surprise! The issue wasn't tail flutter. It was kept in the design because it would have cost more to redesign the boom. Jesus, you can even find that in the basic P-38 wikipedia page. Way to instantly show you have no clue what you're talking about.

  • @88mike42
    @88mike42 6 лет назад +3

    If it had to crash...at least it did so in spectacular fashion.

  • @Rcflyyer1
    @Rcflyyer1 12 лет назад +1

    recently had this happen on a less expensive plane. It was an escapade 40. Elevator fluttered than cracked. Do you have any idea to have what caused the flutter?

    • @ChrisMcLaren
      @ChrisMcLaren 6 лет назад +1

      I would presume the servo was faulty or not strong enough to handle the task it was given. Bad electrical connection would be next guess. I have a P-38 (RC) and refuse to believe elevator flutter happens at such comparatively low speeds. I have certainly never had any trouble with it, and I don't know any one else (with a P-38) who has. Seems really implausible given low speeds involved, etc.

  • @chipfla933
    @chipfla933 6 лет назад

    I did not see a parachute. How did the pilot fare? Hope he survived.

  • @KenH300
    @KenH300 13 лет назад +1

    That sucks, sorry to see that beauty go in.

  • @grancanariaaeromodelismo3880
    @grancanariaaeromodelismo3880 7 лет назад +3

    it is a pity, the plane crash, but this is a good video!!

  • @haroldneely9253
    @haroldneely9253 Год назад

    I’m not laughing, that was a beautiful plane, sounded awesome.

  • @israelrivera835
    @israelrivera835 5 лет назад +1

    Did you find the "Black Boxes" yet? What was the cause of the Crash?
    Any survivors?
    So many questions, please report!

    • @thomasmcewen5493
      @thomasmcewen5493 5 лет назад +1

      The squirrel suffered head damage but turned his wings into the CO and wants to be posted to S-4

    • @israelrivera835
      @israelrivera835 5 лет назад

      @@thomasmcewen5493 That crash was really Catastrophic!😬 Can't tell it was a beautiful plane once, my condolences to the owners!🙁

    • @thomasmcewen5493
      @thomasmcewen5493 5 лет назад +1

      @@israelrivera835 I hate these crashes it makes me ill. My hat off to RC pilots, I flew for 40 years commercially and give me any RC plane and I guarantee it would be a smoking hole in a corn field in double quick time. Beautiful plane

  • @stevesloan7132
    @stevesloan7132 3 года назад +1

    After examining the debris field the RCNTSB should be able to give us the definitive cause of the tragedy rather quickly. After all, it was a small accident.

  • @jamesbomar3903
    @jamesbomar3903 3 года назад

    Wow! Spectacular! Authentic, too.

  • @flipper627
    @flipper627 7 лет назад +1

    Can someone explain to me why some clubs have nice asphalt and still take off/land on the grass? When my field got our asphalt runway we used the hell out of it, so much smoother and nicer

    • @mrow7598
      @mrow7598 7 лет назад

      Some feel the grass give more so if a land hard or a prop hits the ground it won't do as much damage. I know many people they'll take off on asphalt, but when they want to land they use grass.

    • @RaulBailey
      @RaulBailey 6 лет назад

      I take off on the asphalt and land on the grass. The grass is softer and slows the plane down and also causes the plane to bounce less on touchdown.

  • @MichaelDouglasSkewes
    @MichaelDouglasSkewes 6 лет назад +1

    That was a beautiful plane! That is why I stopped flying them,it made me sick when it crashed,all those hours .....smash!!! So I still have a few indoor helicopters and a R.C funny car that goes about 100 mph,but I let my friend fly my only plane,that way I have someone to yell at!

  • @yahatinda
    @yahatinda 9 лет назад

    Nothing wrong there that some muslege and time could not fix.Nick has some neat non-scale designs too. His big sports plane flies great on 62ccs

  • @triplanelover
    @triplanelover 12 лет назад +1

    too bad; such a nice one; you had those engines in perfect synch too....happened to me on a don smith B17, I was just a passenger...

  • @vonmarshall13
    @vonmarshall13 10 лет назад

    That is gutting. What a beauty! Hope you build another one some day.

  • @doyerknives6415
    @doyerknives6415 2 года назад

    Fantastic camera work, really.

  • @modshaman
    @modshaman 7 лет назад

    That crash spread Out just like the Full Scale in England , WoW !
    O & I thought the paint Job was COOL !

  • @fockwulf1
    @fockwulf1 9 лет назад +9

    wow. just like the full scale, crash from elevator flutter in a dive. it needed some lead ballast on each side of the elevator and not a plastic dummy. or just dont dive aggressively . When your planes get this big it helps to know the flight tendencies of the full scale, as they will start to act like the real thing. An example would be the Bf-109s left wing wanting to stall on take off. Or the P-47s elevator being very sensitive to other wise light compression resulting in lack of elevator authority

    • @SpcPoole
      @SpcPoole 6 лет назад +3

      One solution to the loss of control in a dive was the switch from inboard turning props to outboard turning. It was found that the inboard turning props would cause tail buffetting a contribute to loss of control of the elevator at high speeds.

    • @james66872
      @james66872 6 лет назад

      Andrew Poole I am now going outward on my build. Thanks man.

    • @touristguy87
      @touristguy87 6 лет назад

      "wow. just like the full scale, crash from elevator flutter in a dive"
      oh, please shut the fuck up.

    • @touristguy87
      @touristguy87 6 лет назад

      "One solution to the loss of control in a dive was the switch from inboard turning props to outboard turning"
      again, shut the fuck up.

    • @touristguy87
      @touristguy87 6 лет назад

      Do some research on the plane, please.
      You will find out the reason they switched the rotation (actually they just swapped the engines) was that pilots got confused when they lost an engine on take-off and the plane would flip inverted under normal engine-out recovery techniques. Maybe the two idiots who replied with bone-numbingly stupid shit will do the same. Fuck, it's amazing how quick the RUclips half-knowing half-wit will get on a video and pontificate with some amazingly stupid shit like they actually know what the fuck they're talking about.
      As for you, let this be a lesson when you spend 1000 hours building a replica of a 1940s twin-engine prop-fighter, to at least read up on the flight-test procedures and production refinements of the original before you take your own replica out for its first flight..
      and maybe google some other attempts
      ruclips.net/video/bBDLP4onEuY/видео.html

  • @jims6323
    @jims6323 2 месяца назад

    Sounds like something was "buzzing" pretty good!

  • @j.j.springer1099
    @j.j.springer1099 6 лет назад

    they sound good love listening to the motors, some guys cover it up with music which sucks because you can't her the equipment or plane in this case

  • @djstar39
    @djstar39  11 лет назад +2

    Thanks Funkhouser! Couldn't rebuild... literally picked it up with a leaf rake. Engines were destroyed with the cylinders bent over and split 90 degrees. The only think salvageable were the landing gear.
    Still will build another one someday! :-)

  • @dukecorso80
    @dukecorso80 10 лет назад

    Wow ure vid is got to be the clearest ever is it ure camera or the way u uploaded.?

    • @djstar39
      @djstar39  10 лет назад

      Probably the camera... it's a Sony HD camera. Thanks!!

  • @johnswilley6764
    @johnswilley6764 6 лет назад

    Also I must add that there may have been too much "slop" within the control system, and the use of lesser power servos (unable to accommodate the forces associated with bigger models, and higher speed) may also be a factor.

    • @TheSolongsidekick
      @TheSolongsidekick 6 лет назад +2

      Fucking what dude? Where in the hell do you get any of that? The elevator linkage broke, it's as freaking simple as that. Freaking armchair pilots.

    • @jackmehoffer1037
      @jackmehoffer1037 2 года назад

      Wow if you could only tell us what happened to Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 with your super powers.

    • @johnswilley6764
      @johnswilley6764 2 года назад

      @@jackmehoffer1037 There are others whom specialize in missing AC, you may want to give them a try. As for super powers...I retired.

  • @thomashockin4128
    @thomashockin4128 6 лет назад

    Some serious bad luck....I feel for you!!!! If you enjoy the build consider how much you learned from that one and incorporate it into the next!! Good luck!!

  • @TheRoguelement
    @TheRoguelement 12 лет назад +2

    I always figured it's the amount of free play in the control surface or low air pressure at that point that creates the flutter ? but after seeing your hard work trashed it's hard to get motivated back into the long process of construction while that demon lurks ready to leap out and render another airplane scrap bits..but very.Nice 38 anyway..

    • @TrueBlueYou
      @TrueBlueYou 2 года назад

      Absolutely difficult to see these crashes of these thousand dollar aircraft. We didn’t get into the hobby to constantly repair things and rebuild things. I have 400 flights with my $350 Apprentice STS w/ AS3X/SAFE with no crashes over a two year period. Remember, we do this for fun!!!

  • @djstar39
    @djstar39  12 лет назад +1

    Yeah, really sucks to feel so helpless! Building a Wingspan Models 1/9th B-17. Will do all I can to prevent flutter!! That couldn't have been good on the Don Smith B-17. Sorry to hear!!

  • @onyourkilllist6880
    @onyourkilllist6880 5 лет назад

    How historically accurate, it couldn’t pull out of a high speed dive. I heard the pilot was on the radio... he was on the canopy, and instrument panel too! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @jackmehoffer7819
    @jackmehoffer7819 Год назад

    I’ve been a NTSB investigator for at least 20 maybe 25 sec and I can tell you the cause of this crash was the the aircraft was flying to low.

  • @johnm8501
    @johnm8501 11 лет назад

    The worst accident ever is the camera use! Why so wobbly and out of focus?

  • @2prophets396
    @2prophets396 6 лет назад +7

    I gave the video a dislike only because I felt the pain that the builder went through. The video was Excellent, so I guess you could say I liked the video. I just hated to see such a Beautiful aircraft crash. I'm sorry for the loss of your airplane. The up side to this is that you can always build another one.

    • @BrightBlueJim
      @BrightBlueJim 6 лет назад

      Or a complete idiot, I meant to say.

  • @billwelter4101
    @billwelter4101 6 лет назад

    Really sorry, beautiful plane and a lot of work. They said in the 1940s it was elevator flutter, which balance weights should have fixed. I believe that the air coming over the main wing was too turbulent coming back over the elevator. Some twin boom aircraft have high-mounted elevators for this reason. Good luck on building another one!

    • @TheSolongsidekick
      @TheSolongsidekick 6 лет назад

      No. No on all counts. They originally thought it was tail flutter, but it wasn't. That's why the mass balancers on the tail did absolutely nothing. It was compressibility, which is the center of lift moving farther back than the rear surface of the wing.

  • @speedbuggy16v
    @speedbuggy16v 6 лет назад

    uhg, sorry for your loss...........thats heartbreaking

  • @andrewmorgan2537
    @andrewmorgan2537 6 лет назад

    "Ah crap." Sums it up. His wallet just started to cry.

  • @HarryPotter-gw6ee
    @HarryPotter-gw6ee 7 лет назад

    Really a big bummer. Such a beautiful plane. Sorry to see that happen and a huge disappointment.

  • @DataWaveTaGo
    @DataWaveTaGo 5 лет назад

    Does anyone make kits of carbon fiber materials?

  • @nopochoclos
    @nopochoclos 5 лет назад

    So much effort and money should put a parachute system, so much miniaturization technology I think they could do in these cases.

  • @mr.l6615
    @mr.l6615 6 лет назад

    That hurts to watch, the ass time that was put into that beastie only to watch it crash. Ouch.

  • @coyote5735
    @coyote5735 5 лет назад +1

    I hope he brought plenty of bin bags.

  • @glennfalzo3718
    @glennfalzo3718 5 лет назад

    Very sad 😥. All that work. Everyone knows, Anytime you have a crash, no matter how much or little time you have invested in your aircraft, it's a sickly feeling.

  • @djstar39
    @djstar39  13 лет назад +1

    Thanks Ken! It does suck! Part of the hobby though...

  • @michelkoolhaas1349
    @michelkoolhaas1349 Год назад

    Que macana cuál fue el problema 😢

  • @3DPeter
    @3DPeter 6 лет назад

    Lucky that all the pieces are still in tact, so a little glue, spit and elbow grease, and it's good as new.
    Next time i would built a model and do alot of flight test, and when al the bugs are gone and the plane
    is still in tact, then i would start the detailing.

    • @TheSolongsidekick
      @TheSolongsidekick 6 лет назад

      ...no shit. I guarantee that's exactly what he did. Are you completely unaware of mechanical failure?

  • @RTD1947
    @RTD1947 6 лет назад

    First flight is always a shake down flight...never fly twice until you tear it down and check OUT EVERYTHING!!!!!

  • @JoshWeaverRC
    @JoshWeaverRC 6 лет назад

    Oh man, what a good looking and great sounding model. Good you have it on video. Safety first. Kill the dead engines. Flew nice for a bit.

  • @kochj0713
    @kochj0713 10 лет назад +2

    If this was a ARF, Guy's would be screeming bloody murder...
    And how it was the ARF company's fualt for the flutter...

  • @dougthegreat1808
    @dougthegreat1808 5 лет назад

    That's got to suck big time.
    BTW how much of a sucking was tgat??

  • @grammophonecat
    @grammophonecat 10 лет назад

    sorry for your loss! I like how at the end the guy says "kill the engines" i think they are killed mate

    • @djstar39
      @djstar39  10 лет назад +1

      Thanks! Yep, killed is right. We found the engines about 280 feet away in the beans with the cylinders bent in half.

  • @thephantomflanflinger1108
    @thephantomflanflinger1108 5 лет назад +2

    Ouch!. Thats gotta hurt!.

  • @tomsawyer9403
    @tomsawyer9403 3 года назад +2

    Sucks. Was a gorgeous airplane.

  • @carlosmurphy4u1
    @carlosmurphy4u1 10 лет назад +3

    Wow, great job with the zoom lens....

  • @Armafly
    @Armafly 5 лет назад

    It’s better to give a call to Kelly Johnson to understand what went wrong.

  • @terryteed1903
    @terryteed1903 6 лет назад

    What a bloody shame. Sorry that happened.

  • @blakjack3053
    @blakjack3053 3 года назад

    Bogus! Heinous! Most non-triumphant!

  • @shawnjames573
    @shawnjames573 3 года назад

    Sorry for your loss,,,

  • @jerrymccrae7202
    @jerrymccrae7202 5 лет назад +1

    BEAUTIFUL CRASH! Loved it!

  • @karinlefevre9988
    @karinlefevre9988 6 лет назад

    OOHHH MAN........That is just so hard to watch!

  • @zoesdada8923
    @zoesdada8923 6 лет назад

    Man it really turned into confetti

  • @flylooper
    @flylooper 6 лет назад

    I think I'd toss my cookies if I watched all that work evaporate in a minute and a half of flight. Does the thought of stamp collecting ever go through your head when you take one on the chin like that? Oi!

  • @mtacoustic1
    @mtacoustic1 Месяц назад

    Another 'unplanned obsolesence' flight...

  • @janaarts6287
    @janaarts6287 Год назад

    a failure and crash can be a quikling of 25 cent

  • @viperBSG
    @viperBSG 2 года назад

    LOL!! That was funny! Do it again! do it again!!!

  • @JB-eq9nt
    @JB-eq9nt 6 лет назад

    I used to fly ORcs one I was just cruising along when all of a sudden one of the helicopters came straight up & almost through my airplane & I was about 175 feet up, didn't see it until a couple of tenths before he hit me did a little more damage to his than mine lol. Oh well flying was done for that day

  • @thomasmcewen5493
    @thomasmcewen5493 5 лет назад

    Why did I get up this morning moment.

  • @rbeckhoff89
    @rbeckhoff89 6 лет назад +1

    Heartbreaking

  • @dickdastardly2560
    @dickdastardly2560 7 лет назад +4

    Man that's hard to watch!

    • @djstar39
      @djstar39  7 лет назад

      Dick Dastardly, yeah it was tough. Part of the hobby though. Building another one. At the fiberglass stage.

    • @jdj62464
      @jdj62464 7 лет назад +1

      djstar39 Trust me I think I have more experience at crashing & rebuilding planes then most people. When I was just learning to fly 30 years ago there wasn't many experienced pilots around where I lived so I was totally on my own, I must have completely destroyed at least 5 Tower Hobbies/Great Planes .40 size "trainers" & rebuilt another 6😂😂😁😁. But I finally got it and have been hooked/addicted ever since. I also realize if you're not prepared to face the inevitable that at any time every plane, helicopter, & drone can and will crash, then this isn't the hobby for you. Crashing a plane like a Ziroli is a little more painful then your run of the mill ARF, not only for the $$$$ signs it the time and effort that goes into that kind of build.

    • @HeliZero
      @HeliZero 7 лет назад

      Build me one too now when youre at it. ;o)

  • @nateg6320
    @nateg6320 3 года назад

    Take that Mother Earth!!! Seriously that’s a bummer 😞

  • @atomicboy8972
    @atomicboy8972 7 лет назад

    It was so terrible, I had to watch it five times.

  • @Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8
    @Ford_Raptor_R_720hp_V8 7 лет назад +2

    great camera work

  • @steve2839jet
    @steve2839jet 12 лет назад +1

    I feel for you......

  • @1tnrebel
    @1tnrebel 7 лет назад +3

    heart breaking awful

  • @alanmydland5210
    @alanmydland5210 2 года назад

    It's my experience that all airplanes are doomed to crash

    • @JustFlyIt09
      @JustFlyIt09 2 года назад +1

      All RC airplanes have an expiration date stamped on them. I just don't ever seem to be able to find the stamp before the time runs out!

    • @alanmydland5210
      @alanmydland5210 2 года назад +1

      @@JustFlyIt09 I've crashed everything I've ever had, usually foamies

  • @jayc004
    @jayc004 11 лет назад +2

    "Perfect............Crap.......saw the fluter. Saw the elevator flutter. Killed the engines"...........actually my friend, unfortunately you killed the engines, servos, batteries and the whole airframe.
    I feel sorry for you as it was a beautiful plane, but scale aircraft should be flown scale and not balls to the wall full throttle all the time.

    • @TheSolongsidekick
      @TheSolongsidekick 6 лет назад

      Where do I sign up to hear your asinine and moronic feelings about other things?

    • @JoshWeaverRC
      @JoshWeaverRC 5 лет назад

      @@TheSolongsidekick You take a left into any Marine Corps recruiter's office and sign away.
      There you will learn hard work, loss and comrodery that you obviously don't have now.

  • @ronniecoleman2837
    @ronniecoleman2837 9 лет назад

    Wow! I know who you bought it from too, I fly with him and the club.

    • @djstar39
      @djstar39  9 лет назад

      Ronnie, I also bought his Ziroli Skyraider and you can tell him it's one of my favorites and I fly it all the time!

    • @ronniecoleman2837
      @ronniecoleman2837 9 лет назад

      Yes he told me that too. Ron builds the best looking and flying planes.

    • @djstar39
      @djstar39  9 лет назад

      Ronnie Coleman He sure does! Last time I was at his place he was working on a Corsair I believe. Tell him Dave says Hi!

  • @johno.698
    @johno.698 2 года назад

    Playboy to girl: Baby that dress looks great...the only way it could look any better is if it were in a heap at the foot of my bed. A P-38 in a heap at the end of the runway? Not so nice. Sorry for the crack up.