As a fellow middle-age RC pilot, most of these guys are flying planes above their skill level. Besides being a waste of money, time and effort, this can also be dangerous to others at the field. They should move back to flying more basic planes and practice landings.
Yep scale pilots will always deliver the crashes. Been that way since I started flying in the early 1970s, Too much time building not enough time flying. These landing approaches were awful.
Shocked at a lot of these approaches. Buying a fancy model doesn’t mean you get golden fingers delivered in the box. Learning how to walk before running, I.e. learning all about landings in a simple model, is far less expensive
I've been an RC pilot for about 15 years. Got my PPL on full scale planes last year. What we learned is that every approach ends in a go around with the option of a landing. Looking at your video, some of these incidents could have been avoided by just going around an trying again. 😊
LOL the tendencey to push the nose down to get it on the ground is strong.. and the beginning of a SNAFU in many cases. I've been flying RC since 1974, consider myself half ass decent at the circuit and landings, but I never take them for granted - you need to earn the good ones every time.
Absolutely, your insight is spot on. Whether in RC or full-scale aviation, the ability to recognize a less-than-optimal situation and opt for a go-around is a skill that comes with experience and a commitment to safety. Trial version of testing before flying is always good.
So the lesson to be learned is to make sure you get some really good photos of that beautiful model before you fly it. Always nice to have a "before" pic.
@@trevor5290 Regardless of the length you should be on the ground before the plane gets to you, let alone past. I have the benefit of about 40 metres x 40 metres, fences on 3 sides, one 8 feet high, and a street with light poles on the fourth. You get it down or go around, 3000' I would get lost.
I'm getting old. Been at this a long time. Watching those approach speeds makes me appreciate a Cub that much more :) I love Cubs ... I have 3 of them! :):):)
I hope there were survivors from the landings gone so terribly wrong. Hopefully no animals were abused also. It's times like these ,we should all come together and hold hands in prayer!
2:37 that aircraft had the glide slope of a box of coal, but considering the roller coaster take off, I'm going to bet that most of that "falling from the sky" was operator induced and not the aircraft.
This is the weird part of the hobby that makes it so rewarding. The failures! Because we all have them. Big and small. Foamies to the cherished birds. At any given moment when you take off you could be bringing that model back in a box. No matter how good of a pilot you are. It happens to all of us.
After examining the debris field the RCNTSB is expected to release the definitive report on the cause of the accident relatively quickly. After all, it was a small accident.
It looks like they are teaching a new RC landing technique. Dive at the runway, pitch up hard and hold it till it almost stalls then stretch out the glide until it stalls/snaps or pancakes in on the belly. 😂
Heartbreaking to watch, knowing how much time, effort, skill and money went into building them all.....but. No-one injured, property damage limited to dents in the earths crust, no endangerment of anykind.
Amazing how so many of them can't seem to find the runway!! Are you turning over your waypoints to ensure you're lined up? You can turn and aim it toward you, then kick it out slightly. You could also make a much lower down wind pass so you don't build up speed and slap the thing on the runway....
Funny thing is, although I haven't flown r/c for 40 years, I still have dreams at night in which I'm fiercely concentrating on flying them, I suppose it's so deeply embedded in my subconscious for the rest of my life..:)
What I see at the RC filed is people don't practice landings. They get the thing up in the air trim it out and go right to aerobatics. Should be doing touch and go's and learn to land the thing. If you can't land it should not be taking off. If your worried about crashing it learning to land buy a cheap foam plane for learning. If you never learned proper way to land, get some instruction.
This is why I have about 30 RC cars and drones, but zero airplanes. I just know I'd auger an RC plane into a spectator's cranium. LOL. The kicker is...I'm an actual pilot (1:1 scale 😂), but it's different. I love watching them fly on RUclips though.
don't go through life like an old lady with hemorrhoids crossing an icy street get a hobby zone carbon cub and you'll be flying like a pro in no time. a thin coat of epoxy fixes foam airplanes real well
@@thelightersideofrc I lost 3 r/c planes on separate occasions in cornfields, the amazing thing is that although I saw the exact spot where they went in just a hundred yards away, i couldn't find them despite trudging around through the corn for an hour. I eventually got 2 back months later when farmers found them and notified me, but they were in a soggy waterlogged state after months exposure to the elements..:)
"Why is R/C such an expensive hobby?" "Because the hardest part to learn is the landing." I've flown R/C, thirty-five or so years ago. Jets as we know them now didn't exist (ducted fans were new back then, and ran on high performance glow engines). I had a couple major crashes -- spun in after a "count the spins" went flat, repaired the airplane and was back at the field in two weeks; pulled the wings off an Olympic 650 glider flying with two pounds of lead ballast in slope lift and seeing how tight a loop I could pull (that one was a total, but I saved the radio and built another glider). I don't think I ever landed as badly as these, though. I always flew birds that could slow down...
@@johnnichol9412 This was in 1983, so Carl Goldberg. The one I wrecked was bought already built, the one I built to replace it (also CG) would not have broken under the same stress (the first one's spars weren't properly bonded to the shear webs, allowing the wing to flex just outboard of the mounting bands, which then allowed the ribs to crush and the wing to fold until the spruce failed).
"If you can walk away from a landing, it's a good landing. If you use the airplane the next day, it's an outstanding landing." - Chuck Yeager These were all good landings haha!
First guy had no business flying that low 5 secs before it hit, let alone by the time it was skimming the ground lol especially with no gear out and under power still. Gear battery guy did excellent an didnt hurt anything but the paint. amazing how many can find the runway when its 60+ft wide too
Old guys with diminished skills aside...it just boggles the mind to be this deep into the hobby and you can't find the center line of the runway. Even on a 100 foot wide runway guys are missing the center line! Did they learn to fly on park foamies and scale up everything except flying fundamentals? That's a lot of money in the dirt at the edge of a perfectly good runway.
I'm sorry, but I just have to say this, based primarily on the way this is presented. "AND NOT A SINGLE PILOT WAS INJURED IN THE CARNAGE. ABSOLUTELY MIRACULOUS!!!
@thelightersideofrc I'm old and learning on a Sport Cub S2. You learn to respect wind, trim and balance since it is light as a feather. Then, move up to UMX Timber Evolution and stay a park flyer bush plane.
😂😂😂😂 I know there’s lotta pilots the power back too premature. That’s why the airplanes tip stall you got to keep the momentum going don’t throttle back so early and also you gotta be careful don’t fly to slow it’s a right balance in the middle. You have a lot of spirit flying jet. You shouldn’t have this problem and also if you have lotta experience that helps.😂😂😂
Flown RC a long time and I can easily say this video is a case of having more $$ than skill set! I flew RC Heli’s in competition and I’ve seen it many times. Guys barely learn to hover and show up at the field the next week with big $$ competition Heli’s top of the line. All the while there’s some poor guy with duct tape on his canopy just shredding it.😂🤣 one thing you can’t buy is skill and experience. Which takes time and patience. The best advice I can give anyone is to remember power is for altitude and pitch is for speed when landing full scale or models.
Key issue I see that results in the major part of the damage is ... Poor Depth perception. I know because it happens to me. In these videos clearly the folks think they are over the runway when they aren't either in distance from runway start or lateral alignment on the runway. Now when it's going to be a gear up landing, yeah the grass apron might be softer but in most cases it's just simple depth perception, and when you add that to an engine out issue or something not working right, it clearly has bad results.
@thelightersideofrc Can't do much when the problems occur one the first loop, but one more reason to add an alignment and distance pass at least once or twice before landing AND consciously do those as pre-landing actions. For me... I'm always taking multiple approaches because I realize I'm not lined up. Pulling grass out of hinges and foam is not my favorite post flight past time.
Im guessing that some of these pilots jump straight into jet aircraft without learning the basics of flying. Doesn’t matter how good you think you are, ALWAYS start with a simple trainer or at least a simulator…
Ugh, still hurts to see the Diamond, that plane wasn't that old either. But as usual, we all know they have a built in number of flights, could be 1000+, could be 1, or in case of the mini-Mig, does that even count as 1??? 1/10th maybe????
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As a fellow middle-age RC pilot, most of these guys are flying planes above their skill level. Besides being a waste of money, time and effort, this can also be dangerous to others at the field. They should move back to flying more basic planes and practice landings.
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Spot on.
Yep scale pilots will always deliver the crashes. Been that way since I started flying in the early 1970s, Too much time building not enough time flying. These landing approaches were awful.
A few also so seem to need a renewed eyeglass prescription 😊
Could not agree more. Just because you can afford to put $10k+ into an airplane, doesn't mean that you'll be able to fly it.
Shocked at a lot of these approaches. Buying a fancy model doesn’t mean you get golden fingers delivered in the box. Learning how to walk before running, I.e. learning all about landings in a simple model, is far less expensive
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where is the fun in that?
I've been an RC pilot for about 15 years. Got my PPL on full scale planes last year. What we learned is that every approach ends in a go around with the option of a landing. Looking at your video, some of these incidents could have been avoided by just going around an trying again. 😊
Naah but the pride would been hurt :D
That is totally correct! Go Arounds save lots of aircraft!
Yeah , but then they wouldn't be learning
nuthin.
Exactly! Unless you are already out of fuel and making a dead stick landing, going around is a great idea!
Now admit it - it’s a lot easier than RC flying, eh? Congratulations on the PPL. 👍🏻
LOL the tendencey to push the nose down to get it on the ground is strong.. and the beginning of a SNAFU in many cases. I've been flying RC since 1974, consider myself half ass decent at the circuit and landings, but I never take them for granted - you need to earn the good ones every time.
Agreed!
Absolutely, your insight is spot on. Whether in RC or full-scale aviation, the ability to recognize a less-than-optimal situation and opt for a go-around is a skill that comes with experience and a commitment to safety. Trial version of testing before flying is always good.
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So the lesson to be learned is to make sure you get some really good photos of that beautiful model before you fly it. Always nice to have a "before" pic.
HAHA. Well said!
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Thanks for the video and also the reason I stay with foam, usually bigger and less pieces to pick up lol.
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way cheaper too!!
Shocked at how they can miss a hella big runway. Most of us don't have the benefit of big fields and have to land on a spaghetti strip. 😔
HAHA. It happens!
They love grass lol
I know.. and the paved runway is about 3000'+++ feet long and they all feel the need to land before reaching the taxi way or the world will blow up.
@@trevor5290 Regardless of the length you should be on the ground before the plane gets to you, let alone past. I have the benefit of about 40 metres x 40 metres, fences on 3 sides, one 8 feet high, and a street with light poles on the fourth. You get it down or go around, 3000' I would get lost.
I'm getting old. Been at this a long time. Watching those approach speeds makes me appreciate a Cub that much more :) I love Cubs ... I have 3 of them! :):):)
HAHA. Thanks Robert!
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I hope there were survivors from the landings gone so terribly wrong. Hopefully no animals were abused also. It's times like these ,we should all come together and hold hands in prayer!
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2:37 that aircraft had the glide slope of a box of coal, but considering the roller coaster take off, I'm going to bet that most of that "falling from the sky" was operator induced and not the aircraft.
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This is the weird part of the hobby that makes it so rewarding. The failures! Because we all have them. Big and small. Foamies to the cherished birds. At any given moment when you take off you could be bringing that model back in a box. No matter how good of a pilot you are. It happens to all of us.
Well Said.
After examining the debris field the RCNTSB is expected to release the definitive report on the cause of the accident relatively quickly. After all, it was a small accident.
HAHA!😂
It looks like they are teaching a new RC landing technique. Dive at the runway, pitch up hard and hold it till it almost stalls then stretch out the glide until it stalls/snaps or pancakes in on the belly. 😂
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The first one didn't appear to even be an attempt at a landing, but more like a low level high speed pass gone wrong.
Yea exactly.
Yay the baby mig made the blooper reel 😂 god that hurt even me 😢
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Thanks for the video ... ouchie!!! Lots of work and time lost there!!
You got that right! Thanks for watching
Jonathan looks like you will never have a Slow Year Building Airplane & Jets with these Guys Flying! lol.
HAHA. Well put!
This was a nice change
Thanks! Been Saving this one for a while.
Love the Snowbird model!
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Ugh... That debris field was brutal 😢
Yea no kidding. BOOM! YARDSALE!!!
Ah the pit falls of not being prepared before entering the air. Happens to all of us.
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This is why I love FT foamboard planes... because my soul doesn't get squashed when I crash..... and they're fun to fly.
Understandably!
Heartbreaking to watch, knowing how much time, effort, skill and money went into building them all.....but. No-one injured, property damage limited to dents in the earths crust, no endangerment of anykind.
Yea well put Keith!
Amazing how so many of them can't seem to find the runway!! Are you turning over your waypoints to ensure you're lined up? You can turn and aim it toward you, then kick it out slightly. You could also make a much lower down wind pass so you don't build up speed and slap the thing on the runway....
HAHA. It happens!
Been there, done that...more times than I'll ever admit too. 🤣
I'm sure most of us have!
Just a crap flying
Funny thing is, although I haven't flown r/c for 40 years, I still have dreams at night in which I'm fiercely concentrating on flying them, I suppose it's so deeply embedded in my subconscious for the rest of my life..:)
HAHA. once an RC Flier, Always an RC Flier?!
ive learned the hard way that you never give compliments until full stop on the runway lol
LOL. YES!
The first guy looked excited lol
LOL. Yea no kidding! WOOHOO! 😂😂
I’ve had some nice planes. My favorite was my boomerang jet. Man I flew the wings off it! Never really crash landed it. So much fun.
Totally! Such a great plane that grows with your flying ability!
Got to stick the landing. Very cool hobby.
Thanks for watching!
First clip is mine. Glad to see it here. Hope the owner of the tigercat is OK with you sharing it.
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He doesn't have a choice.....
Ouch! I’ve got that same Tigercat, haven’t flown it yet.
Well. Don't do what he did! HAHA
Well to you hotshots glad you are flying model planes not full size ones.
LOL.
Well, Certainly one way to keep the plane manufacturers in business..😂😂😂😂
HAHA. Totally!
I wanna fly at this field, my landings will look spectacular.. lol.
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What I see at the RC filed is people don't practice landings. They get the thing up in the air trim it out and go right to aerobatics. Should be doing touch and go's and learn to land the thing. If you can't land it should not be taking off. If your worried about crashing it learning to land buy a cheap foam plane for learning. If you never learned proper way to land, get some instruction.
Great Points!
You can't learn to land before you take off.
Nice to see I am not the only one....
HAHA. If your flying, you will have Ooops moments at some point!
Ha.. built a lovely low wing open cockpit early trainer....and forgot to to chk the CG.. strait up and down in about 10 secs...Matchwood..haha
Ouch!
F7F hits and smashes...pilot yells "Stupid plane, just lay there till you get it right!"
LOL.
This is why I have about 30 RC cars and drones, but zero airplanes. I just know I'd auger an RC plane into a spectator's cranium. LOL. The kicker is...I'm an actual pilot (1:1 scale 😂), but it's different. I love watching them fly on RUclips though.
But planes are so fun!!!! Thanks for watching!
don't go through life like an old lady with hemorrhoids crossing an icy street
get a hobby zone carbon cub and you'll be flying like a pro in no time. a thin coat of epoxy fixes foam airplanes real well
Almost did myself a little stall last weekend too😅
It happens!
That first one, Is that what they a touch and stay? That was a gorgeous model!
HAHA. Touch and Stay! I like that!
I used to fly r/c, their wrecks are scattered all over the countryside..:)
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@@thelightersideofrc I lost 3 r/c planes on separate occasions in cornfields, the amazing thing is that although I saw the exact spot where they went in just a hundred yards away, i couldn't find them despite trudging around through the corn for an hour.
I eventually got 2 back months later when farmers found them and notified me, but they were in a soggy waterlogged state after months exposure to the elements..:)
LOL! Too true. A burn barrel, the ultimate fate of all RC planes.
"Why is R/C such an expensive hobby?"
"Because the hardest part to learn is the landing."
I've flown R/C, thirty-five or so years ago. Jets as we know them now didn't exist (ducted fans were new back then, and ran on high performance glow engines). I had a couple major crashes -- spun in after a "count the spins" went flat, repaired the airplane and was back at the field in two weeks; pulled the wings off an Olympic 650 glider flying with two pounds of lead ballast in slope lift and seeing how tight a loop I could pull (that one was a total, but I saved the radio and built another glider). I don't think I ever landed as badly as these, though. I always flew birds that could slow down...
WELL SAID!
An Olympic with 2lbs of lead, yeh right.
@@johnnichol9412 Well, yeah. It wasn't a low-drag fast glider, and the wind was 15-20 that day, so I needed ballast to penetrate.
Carl Goldberg or TopmodelCZ?
@@johnnichol9412 This was in 1983, so Carl Goldberg. The one I wrecked was bought already built, the one I built to replace it (also CG) would not have broken under the same stress (the first one's spars weren't properly bonded to the shear webs, allowing the wing to flex just outboard of the mounting bands, which then allowed the ribs to crush and the wing to fold until the spruce failed).
Even experienced RC Pilots have bad days. I lost a beautiful Top Flite Cessna 182 to a bad battery pack. It happens and I've been a pilot since 1987.
If your flying it will eventually happen!
This could be an ad for the Sport Cub 2.
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🙈🙈🙈 Wurfgleiter aus Papier machen auch Spaß 😅😅😅
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Go bingo on fuel? BINGO !!! Youre done
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Looks like some of these guys either have too much money to throw away or need to go back to a trainer model to relearn the basics.
Exactly my thoughts. These guys are flying planes WAY over their skill levels.
Sometimes. Crashing is part of learning
"If you can walk away from a landing, it's a good landing. If you use the airplane the next day, it's an outstanding landing." - Chuck Yeager
These were all good landings haha!
haha. Well Said
I've done that. It's call loss os situation awareness.
HAHA. Totally.
almost thought my jet was done before I got to play with it 😅
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F7F wood for a bondfire now
F5J when you gotta land now 3:13
HAHA. Exactly!
First guy had no business flying that low 5 secs before it hit, let alone by the time it was skimming the ground lol especially with no gear out and under power still. Gear battery guy did excellent an didnt hurt anything but the paint. amazing how many can find the runway when its 60+ft wide too
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It happens I know the feeling. You just hope you can repair it or salvage what you can.
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This is an advanced technique, so-caled lithobraking.
HAHA.
Old guys with diminished skills aside...it just boggles the mind to be this deep into the hobby and you can't find the center line of the runway. Even on a 100 foot wide runway guys are missing the center line! Did they learn to fly on park foamies and scale up everything except flying fundamentals? That's a lot of money in the dirt at the edge of a perfectly good runway.
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I'm sorry, but I just have to say this, based primarily on the way this is presented. "AND NOT A SINGLE PILOT WAS INJURED IN THE CARNAGE. ABSOLUTELY MIRACULOUS!!!
HAHA. Phew!
What about the pilot’s family’s, so tragic. What a loss.St.Paul.
No Animals or pilots were harmed in the making of this film.
That first one for some reason was the worst to me. Hits the ground it's fine hits again and it's gone
HAHA. Yea that was the most brutal for sure!
Huh, didn’t see of of TBrum in there. Must not be flying much. 😉
Lol
In real aviation a good landing is any you can walk away from. What's the RC equivalent - any you can carry away in one piece?
Sounds about right!
Some very nice aircraft that shouldn't've been lost. And time/money/emotional distress.
Happens!
The goods and bads!!
Exactly!
its like most people don't know how to trim their planes for take off and landings.
Possibly!
That sucks, just lost my Pioneer in the sun. Crash and burn or a loss, just as sad..
Yea it's always sad to see one crash!
Always take a large plastic bag to the flying field :)
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Bad pilots put a trash bag inside their plane. That way, it's already there.
There’s only two types of RC planes. Those that have crashed, and those that have never flown.
LOL.
I have watched this clip many times and I still can’t figure out what the “ pilot” of the Tigercat was doing, he just seemed to freeze,
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It’s entertaining but hard to watch at the same time 😢😂
Totally understand!
Almost all these landings happened with elevator trim set for high speed.😢
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Not knowing anything about RC, is it safe to assume those fences and nets are to protect the operator from a plane that decides to kamikaze?
Sort of. Many purposes but if 2 are flying at once and someone has a bad take off it keeps the other pilot safe.
Some of these landing cut right to the soul....😥
HAHA. Well put!
been there, done that, filled the garbage bags...
LOL. Yea you and many others.
Some of those are not so bad.. Those are fast aircraft and survivable landings are 😊 better than no landing.
Well said!
@thelightersideofrc Rock on .I am training on the sport cub in all weather. . Then move up
@thelightersideofrc I'm old and learning on a Sport Cub S2. You learn to respect wind, trim and balance since it is light as a feather. Then, move up to UMX Timber Evolution and stay a park flyer bush plane.
This is some of the reasons RemoteID are here to stay!
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I love RC planes, but they love to crash all too often.
It Happens!!!
A lot wernt landing on the strip. When flying planes of that standard and cost ya gotta be able to land on that strip!!
Truth!
Zoom lens. Love the flights. Can see them
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2:37 is that a UFO at top right corner of screen?
YES!
@@thelightersideofrc In that case aliens are responsible for the prang..:)
😂😂😂😂 I know there’s lotta pilots the power back too premature. That’s why the airplanes tip stall you got to keep the momentum going don’t throttle back so early and also you gotta be careful don’t fly to slow it’s a right balance in the middle. You have a lot of spirit flying jet. You shouldn’t have this problem and also if you have lotta experience that helps.😂😂😂
Thanks Johann!
Flown RC a long time and I can easily say this video is a case of having more $$ than skill set! I flew RC Heli’s in competition and I’ve seen it many times. Guys barely learn to hover and show up at the field the next week with big $$ competition Heli’s top of the line. All the while there’s some poor guy with duct tape on his canopy just shredding it.😂🤣 one thing you can’t buy is skill and experience. Which takes time and patience. The best advice I can give anyone is to remember power is for altitude and pitch is for speed when landing full scale or models.
Fun Video hey! 😂 Thanks for watching!
*Let the Sunshine in...*
YES!!!
Airspeed!! / Landing too FAST! / What centreline!?!? / ARE YOU CLEAR OF OBSTACLES ON APPROACH TO THE RUNWAY!? :P :P :P
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I once made the mistake of trying to fly the plane with one hand and hold a camera in the other hand. buried it
HAHA. No kidding!
wenn die Leute sich im Straßenverkehr genauso verhalten....dann gute Nacht😂😂😂😂😂😂
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What is the fun of a plane that is very difficult to land in one piece?
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What happened to the Diamond? bummer. You rekitted that one. Sorry
I'll keep it simple. The Diamond was the Reason I switched to JETI. Much more to the story but that was the final push.
ouch to the wallet
Yes, unfortunatley.
Key issue I see that results in the major part of the damage is ... Poor Depth perception. I know because it happens to me.
In these videos clearly the folks think they are over the runway when they aren't either in distance from runway start or lateral alignment on the runway. Now when it's going to be a gear up landing, yeah the grass apron might be softer but in most cases it's just simple depth perception, and when you add that to an engine out issue or something not working right, it clearly has bad results.
Agreed! And Nerves I think add to some of the issue as well.
@thelightersideofrc Can't do much when the problems occur one the first loop, but one more reason to add an alignment and distance pass at least once or twice before landing AND consciously do those as pre-landing actions. For me... I'm always taking multiple approaches because I realize I'm not lined up. Pulling grass out of hinges and foam is not my favorite post flight past time.
I think that would get to be an expensive hobby.
It can be if you have lots of last flights with your aircraft.
Im guessing that some of these pilots jump straight into jet aircraft without learning the basics of flying. Doesn’t matter how good you think you are, ALWAYS start with a simple trainer or at least a simulator…
Very true. Still stressful for some.
Ugh, still hurts to see the Diamond, that plane wasn't that old either. But as usual, we all know they have a built in number of flights, could be 1000+, could be 1, or in case of the mini-Mig, does that even count as 1??? 1/10th maybe????
HAHA. Yea only had like 60 ish flights I think.
Jeez, all these jet flyers can’t land! Learn the basics before you move up. How did these guys get signed off?
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Lack of rudder use on a few landings
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Short final....inverted!
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Let’s pray and hope no one here actually flys real airplanes
LOL.
2,35 : celui ci a eu une panne moteur,qui peux arriver comme sur les gros avions ,c est un risque malheureusement,ce sont Tous de très beaux avions, dommage que certains aient des pannes ou de la malchance pour atterrir 🥺
It happens unfortunately!