Dean Saunders RAGES Over Nottingham Forest Sacking Steve Cooper After Getting Them Promoted! 😶🔥

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  • Опубликовано: 20 дек 2023
  • Were Nottingham Forest right to sack manager Steve Cooper? talkSPORT's Natalie Sawyer and Dean Saunders discuss.
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  • @user-oq3sx6ms4v
    @user-oq3sx6ms4v 6 месяцев назад +19

    Loyalty gave him extra time last season when at any other club, the manager would have been sacked. He’d used up the extra lives he earned from the promotion season and he had to go.

    • @dbz9393
      @dbz9393 6 месяцев назад +2

      true we gave cooper far longer than he deserved

    • @kirkdyer7294
      @kirkdyer7294 6 месяцев назад +3

      Would help if the owners hadn't bought 20 players he didn't want or approve of. You can't have cohesion with strangers. The owner has too much of a dictatorial style. He is 100% to blame, not Steve Cooper. This guy brought Forest from the BOTTOM of the Championship to the Premiership in 3/4 of a season. That takes talent. If Cooper had say in the recruitment, Forest would have landed in the top 8 last season and improved on that. The owner is an impatient bully. He has hired 5 different managers in less than 18 months at his other club, Olympiacos. That reflects poorly on him and proves his incompetence.

    • @matteoj226
      @matteoj226 6 месяцев назад

      This 'any other club' lark isn't exactly true is it. Burnley went down and kept Dyche on. Norwich went down and kept Farke on. Both of them got them back up again. Leicester kept Pearson on, when they looked doomed. Burnley look likely to keep Kompany on this season no matter what happens. Leeds fans were begging to keep Bielsa in. Its a perfectly rational and sensible thing to do for the long term, if you think the coach isn't the problem. It wasn't quite as unique as people are saying to keep Cooper on, and it proved to be the correct decision last season. We'll see of this was the right one.

  • @NickNicholsonNFFC
    @NickNicholsonNFFC 6 месяцев назад +13

    Lmaoo even if they get relegated we should keep him, get a grip deano. What fan wants to see their club get relegated rather than changing and trying to survive.If he did a bit of research he would realise there is a lot that has happened other than results that lead to coopers sacking.

    • @user-op7gl9rq2e
      @user-op7gl9rq2e 6 месяцев назад

      Hmm can u remember dyches Burnley, he got em up , relegated first season, came back established em as midtable to European team, no money required , stability

    • @adamwhite1556
      @adamwhite1556 6 месяцев назад +1

      I'd happily stick with Cooper if it meant forest getting relegated. It'd be nice to see forest playing competitive football again in The Championship and maybe being more ready next time for the Prem. We wasn't ready when we went up to the PL in 2021.

  • @colingeddes2172
    @colingeddes2172 6 месяцев назад +7

    Im not a notts forest fan, but from the outside it feels very harsh. Cooper took over when u were in the relegation zone in the championship, he not only got forest in the prem but kept them there quite comfortably last season. Its obvious that there are 3 worst sides in the league than forest, so what do the forest hierarchy expect forest to finish in the league? Realistacly mid table is the best they cud achieve and that they may do so. So why sack cooper? Hes arguably their best manager since brian clough. As the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for.....

    • @kidzhutch8993
      @kidzhutch8993 6 месяцев назад

      You are not a Nottingham Forest fan you are a notts Forest fan..... That don't exist 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @AchtungBaby77
    @AchtungBaby77 6 месяцев назад +7

    I'm still waiting for the part where Dean rages...

  • @martintotterdale765
    @martintotterdale765 6 месяцев назад +17

    I am grateful to Cooper, but Deano is uneducated on this issue. The championship run was largely due to Brennan Johnson maturing at the right time. Johnson was unplayable and Cooper just inherited this. Cooper made fundamental mistakes. 1) Trusting Worrall to defend, 2) Not holding MGW to account re possession and 3) he wasted lots of money on Jonjo Shelvey and Chris Wood. Add those 3 up and you have to be accountable for decisions. it is hard for anyone who follows club closely to make a good case for keeping Cooper, unfortunately.

    • @martintotterdale765
      @martintotterdale765 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@sitaylor Whilst Spence was great, I disagree, 19 goals, and 9 assists at his age was what separated him. Spence was important, but those goals and that finishing ability is rare. One got sold for £47 mill and one doesn't play for Leeds. As I stated Brennan was the difference!!!

    • @dbz9393
      @dbz9393 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@martintotterdale765 its true we also happened to have Brice Samba in net who now plays for a UCL side. We never hired him because cooper refused his pay demands. Now we have spent 2 seasons trying to replace him and we still do not have a reliable keeper.

    • @martintotterdale765
      @martintotterdale765 6 месяцев назад

      @@dbz9393 Yes, possibly, not sure of full reason. Bryce was brilliant but to be honest, I always felt he had an error not far away. But he was great and those pens!!!!

    • @martintotterdale765
      @martintotterdale765 6 месяцев назад

      @@sitaylor Scored 8 goals in a struggling team, provided many vital assists, scouted by several teams and eventually sold to a top 6 team for 47.5 mill.

    • @martintotterdale765
      @martintotterdale765 6 месяцев назад

      @@sitaylor Not sure what point you ar trying to make now, Different situations. The original point I made was the promotion was down to Brennan maturing at perfect time. Spence helped but was not instrumental like Brennan was --- see above!!

  • @Jiminy_Bob
    @Jiminy_Bob 6 месяцев назад +11

    Dean was completely uneducated on this considering he supposedly "follows" us.

  • @ryansmith240992
    @ryansmith240992 6 месяцев назад +5

    He only won 3 in their last 17 games. It’s about staying up for Forest & they can do that under Nuno

    • @SamTheNerd1
      @SamTheNerd1 6 месяцев назад

      Steve is not the problem! It's the players nuno ain't gonna change anything!

  • @dannygreene1122
    @dannygreene1122 6 месяцев назад +3

    Clickbait title! It should say, "Dean Saunders is slightly animated (at best) over Steve Cooper's sacking". LOL

    • @aaronbeat1136
      @aaronbeat1136 6 месяцев назад +2

      Slightly confused more like

  • @YOTD777
    @YOTD777 6 месяцев назад +10

    Who cares what Dean Suanders thinks 🤔

  • @petegonad
    @petegonad 6 месяцев назад +2

    It’s done now. We all know what the game is, and what it has been for the last 20 years. Us fans wanted forest to be different, but let’s face it we haven’t spent 200 million quid. The biggest surprise was him not getting sacked last season. This is the norm.

  • @David-rh6zg
    @David-rh6zg 6 месяцев назад +1

    Is this the geezer that recommended Villa didn’t pull the trigger on Gerrard when they did 🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @philwebberqualityplasterin3940
    @philwebberqualityplasterin3940 6 месяцев назад +2

    Love Coops but so many fundamental problems with our team.
    Playing ultra low block and conceding so many goals and being woeful both offensively and defensively on set pieces is just the tip of the iceberg .
    Thank you&Best of luck to the fella but we must move on
    COYR⭐️🌳⭐️

  • @franksinclair9608
    @franksinclair9608 6 месяцев назад +1

    let's be fair, the only reason people know forest will be safe is because the three promoted sides are so, so clearly out of their depth in the prem. if they'd kept cooper and finished fourth bottom on, say, 34 points, does that put them in good shape for next season?
    i like cooper, but i don't think it's a terrible time to change it up, for the short and longer term. plus they've got a proven prem coach who should see them progress

  • @paulfrith2681
    @paulfrith2681 6 месяцев назад +2

    Was time for a change he was getting like tommy cooper 😂😂😂😂

  • @thefootballpunnedit
    @thefootballpunnedit 6 месяцев назад

    1 win in 13 games... 2 away wins in 28 games... lower xG than newly promoted and relatively skint Luton. Are you having a laugh. Look at the stats and tell me any other club with any other manager would accept having a top 6 net spend and a bottom 3 xG simultaneously halfway through the season. I'm a Forest fan and I LOVE Steve Cooper with all my heart. There's hardly a man alive I'd rather buy a pint for... but sometimes in life the correct professional decision is a tough sentimental one.

  • @dantheman9228
    @dantheman9228 6 месяцев назад

    Personally i think Forest have done Cooper a favour he might not think that but if he had got them relegated then got sacked it would put him in a bad light for any other job with another championship club as it is now championship clubs will be wanting him if they need a new manager so he should have no problem getting another manager job.

  • @villaman4818
    @villaman4818 6 месяцев назад +2

    "Rages".... mmm..we do like our dog whistles.

  • @ashb3085
    @ashb3085 6 месяцев назад

    the same guy who said Villa couldnt get anyone better then Gerrard 😂😂

  • @user-iz9co4qf6z
    @user-iz9co4qf6z 6 месяцев назад +1

    Even if we got relegated Steve Cooper is the right man for the job.....Not sure about that

  • @macdrummer007
    @macdrummer007 6 месяцев назад

    Let's see. So someone saying that Forest have been signing players behind Cooper's back? Welcome to the 'World of Ross Wilson'. Whose delusions for grandeur continue to amuse and bemuse (depends which side of the fence you are on) in equal quantity.The man is a legend, in his own lunch time! Good luck Forest fans.You'll need it!

  • @jwalter-mo6hb
    @jwalter-mo6hb 6 месяцев назад

    What do Forrest expect, they undermined him and HE STILL stuck it out.i have no dog in fight but Cooper just isn't glamouris enough. Shame on owner

  • @nickroberts6050
    @nickroberts6050 6 месяцев назад

    He wouldn't be moaning if Cooper wasn't a fellow Taff! 🙄 Bore off!

  • @BaldricksTurnip1
    @BaldricksTurnip1 6 месяцев назад +1

    I hope the Coopernistas aren't gonna bet back he had plenty of time he wasn't good enough

  • @stephenplant6587
    @stephenplant6587 6 месяцев назад +1

    If we go down what a knob

  • @shamadam1
    @shamadam1 6 месяцев назад

    I think it was harsh on Cooper but having said that, clubs need to evolve. I remember Nigel Adkins did a great job of getting Southampton up but he was sacked in favour of Pochettino which was a master stroke, evolution of a club . Perhaps Nuno will make them better. It's still harsh on Cooper

  • @benwilds743
    @benwilds743 6 месяцев назад

    Expectations are too high and marinakis wants too much too quick. With Cooper we wouldve stayed up and continue to build towards what the owner wants now over the next few years. Instead now were in this position where nuno could take us sideways or it works out. Gotta back him either way coyr

  • @PhoneyPolitics2.0
    @PhoneyPolitics2.0 6 месяцев назад

    not got a clue Dean clearly has not been following Forest

  • @phsteele84
    @phsteele84 6 месяцев назад +1

    Where was the raging?

  • @BaldricksTurnip1
    @BaldricksTurnip1 6 месяцев назад +1

    Give Nuno espirito Santo s some time

  • @airdog1829
    @airdog1829 5 месяцев назад

    Perhaps best for Steve. He won't have to suffer our demotion.

  • @BaldricksTurnip1
    @BaldricksTurnip1 6 месяцев назад

    Cooper is not a premier League manager

  • @timothyhollins6010
    @timothyhollins6010 6 месяцев назад

    Please watch Jack Hibbs to hear what is really going on.

  • @robinhood007
    @robinhood007 6 месяцев назад +3

    I agree with Dean on this. He’s right. Mental. Can’t see Nuno doing much. Luton must be laughing at this.

  • @saab2906
    @saab2906 6 месяцев назад

    Pls get dean on for Xmas eve like last year people running around getting presents

  • @jamesfizz
    @jamesfizz 6 месяцев назад

    Steve, Cooper says he knew about every single signing

  • @Yaaman445
    @Yaaman445 2 месяца назад

    I mean some results which Steve was there was were horrible

  • @benrichards399
    @benrichards399 6 месяцев назад

    Steve the Jim diamond lookalike 🎶should have known better!🎶....

  • @JubbatheHatt
    @JubbatheHatt 6 месяцев назад +2

    You lot know nothing Coop's lost his job all by himself by alienating half the dressing room and other things Deano get some facts b4 bumpin yer gums please ta

    • @adamwhite1556
      @adamwhite1556 6 месяцев назад

      How did he alienate the dressing room?

    • @JubbatheHatt
      @JubbatheHatt 6 месяцев назад

      @@adamwhite1556 not the whole dressing room but its quite normal for a manager to have this happen to them when results aren't going their way he blamed players for results that players probably blamed his tactics. Squad we have need someone experienced n Coop's will probably thrive at CPFC where the squad is used to the prem

  • @pr1bob
    @pr1bob 6 месяцев назад

    1 win in 13 Dean

  • @andrewprotheroe9886
    @andrewprotheroe9886 6 месяцев назад +2

    Iam a Nottingham forest fan Cooper would have drag us down Cooper is just not premier league manager Cooper forest souid have sack him as soon as we got up to the premier league

    • @BaldricksTurnip1
      @BaldricksTurnip1 6 месяцев назад

      Cooper would take us back down

    • @adamwhite1556
      @adamwhite1556 6 месяцев назад +1

      So you sack a manager that's done the best thing for two decades for your club?

    • @andrewprotheroe9886
      @andrewprotheroe9886 6 месяцев назад

      Yes yes

  • @xrovyn
    @xrovyn 6 месяцев назад

    No clue what hes talking about

  • @Phil-jb9hh
    @Phil-jb9hh 5 месяцев назад

    No pther club with real ambition would sack a young up and coning manager for one win in 13 with the gargage we have. Brentford, Bournemouth, man u, chelsea, pakace all been on that run this reason didnt sack. Its bot that at all but a stupid clueless owner who couldnt stand how the fans felt about him, he has to be the biggest at the club, clubs a joke since narinakis took over get them out

  • @BaldricksTurnip1
    @BaldricksTurnip1 6 месяцев назад +2

    Cooper is not a premier league manager

  • @Afro-sport94
    @Afro-sport94 6 месяцев назад

    Newcastle 1-3 Nottingham Forest 😅

  • @tonys982
    @tonys982 6 месяцев назад

    Deluded!

  • @kidzhutch8993
    @kidzhutch8993 6 месяцев назад

    IT'S NOT NOTTS FOREST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    NOTTINGHAM FOREST

  • @nas8783
    @nas8783 6 месяцев назад

    Deans a clown

  • @kidzhutch8993
    @kidzhutch8993 6 месяцев назад

    Dean saunders you know nothing

  • @clydesandry5351
    @clydesandry5351 6 месяцев назад +1

    Totally agree with Dean👍🏻

  • @topcat4643
    @topcat4643 6 месяцев назад

    Nuno….hah, big mistake you mark my words come end of May 2024….😢😢😢

  • @mikesweeney1827
    @mikesweeney1827 6 месяцев назад

    Should not of sacked him..Hope they get relegated signing 23 players is a joke 🤬