Interestingly, they used a model version of this rifle for Stallone's Demolition Man because it looks nice and futuristic. It was a plasma rifle in that though.
I thought he was the Butcher of Baghdad? Interesting how he got his rise to power. foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-files-prove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/
The Bundeswehr was THIS close to having the most unique issue rifle of any military in the world, then the Soviet Union went and fell apart and the Germans decided to go in another direction. I can't help but wonder if we wouldn't see more caseless ammo firearms today had the Germans adopted the G11. For now it seems caseless technology is pretty well dead, unless someone is still working on it that I'm not aware of.
Caseless tech is NOT dead. Not at all. The LSAT program contracted out had been further developing it since the G11. The technology readiness keeps increasing. They are also developing polymer-cased cartridges that are at an even higher readiness. Now, the NGSW program has replaced the LSAT program (NGSW-AR and NGSW-R). The Army has selected a 6.8mm bullet size and prefers polymer casings apparently. The Marines is the branch pushing for caseless development. The first NGSW-AR prototypes will be given to the Army for testing in June 2019 after a 12-month deadline ends for the 6 contractors (including Textron) to make prototypes of the rifle and ammuntion.
The problem that would put me off from caseless ammo is what happens if the propellant doesn't burn fully and gets stuck in the chamber. They are messing with telescoping polymer case ammo though.
@@alchemist889 When manually charging this rifle, the finger that loads a round into chamber would eject any FTFs from the otherwise unused ejection port underneath the rear side of the rifle.
Damn, this rifle is like a Transrapid/Maglev train. Doable, futuristic, superior, but ahead of its time and too expensive and complex for mass adaption.
Watching Forgotten Weapon's new video, there's actually a small port on the bottom for ejecting unfired rounds, but I think it's only open when you're manually cycling it with the winding mechanism on the side. Does this weapon have a 'round chambered' indicator? That seems to be a common complaint about bullpups with difficult to check chambers: no simple way to see if it's loaded.
i love the g36 and ar but if this would go in further development and get a nice "suit" i cant understand why it is not implimented in the army its 3 round burst is epic
Probably the weird ass reloading. How tf are you supposed to push that button on that bulky stock with one hand, while pulling out the mag with the other? lol I'm searching for a video of someone who is reloading this thing while standing, but it seems like its near impossible.
The Bundeswehr got hit with severe budget cuts after the German Reunification and end of the Cold War, so many projects were cancelled. The G11 was actually adopted and approved for mass production. They planned on putting it on hold and produce it later on, but since that was gonna take a while, the other countries interested in the G11 project and NATO wanted to hurry up in standarnizing an intermediate caliber round and standarnized 5.56x45 with the STANAG 4172 promulgation in 1993.
I did a lot of damage with the G11 on the original Call of Duty: Black Ops. Lots of angry kids on the other end of this baby. By far my favorite weapon in the game!
Nice weapon...I really like HKs & own/have owned many over the years. I think these weapons had potential, I REALLY like the added round capacity, and I'd even PAY MONEY to put one through it's paces. Back in the day these were said to be the last word in combat rifles, as is common. That was the claim with the repeating rifle in the 1860s, the M1 in WW2 & the AK 47 later on. But when anyone tells me DON'T WORRY about maintenance/need to extensively strip & clean the weapon (as some claimed w/this one), I get worried. In the early 1960's, developers of the first M-16's said it was the perfect infantry weapon. The word to the troops was, "This weapon never needs cleaning!" That is until some anonymous decision maker decided that any old gunpowder would be fine for M16 ammo. That idiotic decision, made by someone who WOULD NOT have to carry it into combat (along with the humidity & general filth encountered in Vietnam) caused many American deaths due to jammed M-16s on the battlefield. It was EVENTUALLY corrected, but lesson learned. Murphy's Law, the inherent screw-ups in huge institutions, the unproven ballistic performance of the smaller caliber projectile. the weapon's lack of accuracy vs the M-16 other ACRs & the cost to revise/retrain/resupply failed to win the military over.
holy crap!that gun was a game changer,lack of development ,in time killed it.it is probably the future of assault rifles.2000 rpm on 3 shot burst.few modern weapons can match that.we britts are not allowed guns.but is on my wish list,for christmas 2020.only 1000 production rifles made.i just want one.
But none of the companys that were trying to make an acr (advance combat rifle ) made a sucseccful product because of costs amd things being to complicated for the time period
I wish the G11 had been ready for production five years earlier. (As it is NOT very correct to say it would have been ok if the West- and East Germany had reunited five years later!)
Caseless tech is NOT dead! Not at all. The LSAT program contracted out had been further developing it since the G11. The technology readiness keeps increasing. They are also developing polymer-cased cartridges that are at an even higher readiness! Now, the NGSW program has replaced the LSAT program (NGSW-AR and NGSW-R) for an M249 replacement. The Army has selected a 6.8mm bullet size and prefers polymer casings apparently. The Marines is the branch pushing for caseless development. The first NGSW-AR prototypes will be given to the Army for testing in June 2019 after a 12-month deadline ends for the 6 contractors (including Textron) to make prototypes of the rifle and ammuntion.
@@slopedarmor No, with a polymer case it's not caseless. Textron was contracted to develop their CT (cased telescoped) ammunition over many years and more recently in 6.5mm. Now that the army decided on a 6.8mm bullet, that's what they will present them with in June 2019. You can read more about the CT system online.
Nope. Dynamit Nobel produced a high ignition temperature propellant, HITP in short, which raised the self ignition temperature to about twice the temps you see on regular powder.
What a dream of a weapon! Too bad it had its problems. And I think it'd be better just giving out full long magazines to reload instead of the cumbersome reload with short mags.
Just imagine how the world would be if this was the standard rifle of the US military. I als wonder how many people in the comment section know so much about this thing... things debunked by Ian some days ago.
We would have to accept a whole new level of rifle inaccuracy, it looks to me. How many times did that guy miss his boom-boom targets at both ranges? I've seen kids right out of AIT shoot better with M16A2s at those distances on pop-up ranges.
@@boydgrandy5769 Sorry, but it _was_ more accurate than the AR platform rifles... just not as much as they wanted (100% increase in certain conditions).
Jason Bowen give the engineers some credit. Although the thing is a Rube Goldberg contraption, all of the complexity is not dealt with the infantryman but is instead an armorer level task. If something goes wrong with the barrel-breech assembly (the official term for that complex part), just remove the plastic cover and stuff in another bolt.
Germans just didn't need anything new because the war was over, America kept the m16 because it was cheaper, but if you youtube the gun it's not that complicated . Pretty cool
hey 5 inches at 300 is pretty damn good, he got it really quick too. probly a fairly light projectile too, 300 with some wind will really shift your group. it was decent shooting
@@bobthompson4319 he missed 3 shots? how many does it take you to make hits on a five inch target out at 300 with a non-magnified optic? that's about the size of your palm, btw. it wouldn't be bad shooting even without other factors, such as the inherent accuracy of the rifle (being generous, probly meets most mil standards ~3moa), the consistency of the ammunition, weather conditions like wind, and visiblity issues etc
@@ilovethatkatielovesclassic8771, as well as having the sun in his eyes to some extent, eh? I'd take a dozen or two plus 10 overseas containers (40' of course) full of ammo and spares, thank you.
A forgettable rifle by a forgettable company. HK can't engineer anything but product improved M4's. Poor civilian support and lots of contempt for contempt civilians - it seems like it is built into their business plan.
this is the most ive ever seen a g11 used
Wow, thats one heck of a rare video.
That 3 round burst.... Sounds and looks like a gun in the future of Terminator.
Interestingly, they used a model version of this rifle for Stallone's Demolition Man because it looks nice and futuristic. It was a plasma rifle in that though.
God I love that all three mode of fire even sound like different guns.
You can tell its an american crowd because as soon as something goes BOOM, someone shouts "YEAH!!" :D
Plus it was Saddam Hussein (the mad man in Irak)
You mean at 1:08?
I thought he was the Butcher of Baghdad? Interesting how he got his rise to power. foreignpolicy.com/2013/08/26/exclusive-cia-files-prove-america-helped-saddam-as-he-gassed-iran/
Damn kraut space magic
Forgotten Weapons just released a video with this title 🤔
We got a Sherlock here...
@@robojokes2274 we got an asshole here...
@@RubenKelevra Mimimimimimimimi
I'd forgotten how shit late 80s camcorders were, lol
@spankeyfish It's not that bad in my opinion. There are cellphone videos here on RUclips that are less than 10 years old that look worse than this.
That reloading!
An elegant weapon for a more civilized age
I like the blue bit at the end!!!😊
I was going to say the same thing.
The Bundeswehr was THIS close to having the most unique issue rifle of any military in the world, then the Soviet Union went and fell apart and the Germans decided to go in another direction. I can't help but wonder if we wouldn't see more caseless ammo firearms today had the Germans adopted the G11. For now it seems caseless technology is pretty well dead, unless someone is still working on it that I'm not aware of.
Caseless tech is NOT dead. Not at all. The LSAT program contracted out had been further developing it since the G11. The technology readiness keeps increasing. They are also developing polymer-cased cartridges that are at an even higher readiness.
Now, the NGSW program has replaced the LSAT program (NGSW-AR and NGSW-R). The Army has selected a 6.8mm bullet size and prefers polymer casings apparently. The Marines is the branch pushing for caseless development. The first NGSW-AR prototypes will be given to the Army for testing in June 2019 after a 12-month deadline ends for the 6 contractors (including Textron) to make prototypes of the rifle and ammuntion.
@@MrCarGuy Great info. Thank you very much. 👍
The problem that would put me off from caseless ammo is what happens if the propellant doesn't burn fully and gets stuck in the chamber. They are messing with telescoping polymer case ammo though.
@@alchemist889 When manually charging this rifle, the finger that loads a round into chamber would eject any FTFs from the otherwise unused ejection port underneath the rear side of the rifle.
well cartridges were invented in 1812 but were abandon until 1860, it's probably going to make a comeback some time in the future.
Amazing video! Thank you for posting it.
Neat how they demonstrated it buried in sand, at first I was like "wow the krauts really have made magic"
It is honestly an awesome weapon, and after watching Forgotten Weapon's video on it, I'd still show further interest in its capabilities.
Damn, this rifle is like a Transrapid/Maglev train. Doable, futuristic, superior, but ahead of its time and too expensive and complex for mass adaption.
This rifle is almost adopted, if not for the collapsed of berlin wall
donnerschwein that's not why it didn't got adopted, only politics stopped the K2
It was adopted, then unadopted due to the need to pay for reunification.
@@LucioFercho fuck off reunification, give this gun back :D
Dude on the left, ignored the rehearsal, went out the night before, and decided to wing it. Good Dig
I hope they still do demonstrations like this
caseless ammo gives the gun the advantage in adverse conditions because the magazine plugs the only way dirt could get in and there's no ejection port
Watching Forgotten Weapon's new video, there's actually a small port on the bottom for ejecting unfired rounds, but I think it's only open when you're manually cycling it with the winding mechanism on the side. Does this weapon have a 'round chambered' indicator? That seems to be a common complaint about bullpups with difficult to check chambers: no simple way to see if it's loaded.
and the barrel of course
I’m here from a forgotten weapons video...and this is awesome. You got one more sub now 👍🏻.
7:31 - "YEAH!"
Is that Jim Schatz solving a feeding jam at 7:26?
God I miss VHS.
“Video calibration” epic . Old times were so damn good ...
The water bit was pretty cool, I gotta say
i love the g36 and ar but if this would go in further development and get a nice "suit" i cant understand why it is not implimented in the army its 3 round burst is epic
Probably the weird ass reloading. How tf are you supposed to push that button on that bulky stock with one hand, while pulling out the mag with the other? lol I'm searching for a video of someone who is reloading this thing while standing, but it seems like its near impossible.
@@Kipp274 literally this video?
The Bundeswehr got hit with severe budget cuts after the German Reunification and end of the Cold War, so many projects were cancelled.
The G11 was actually adopted and approved for mass production. They planned on putting it on hold and produce it later on, but since that was gonna take a while, the other countries interested in the G11 project and NATO wanted to hurry up in standarnizing an intermediate caliber round and standarnized 5.56x45 with the STANAG 4172 promulgation in 1993.
Its a shame it never went into use/ never was adopted as standard issue by any military. Very impressive weapon.
Wow, i never thought i needed to see this, thanks RUclips!
Forgotten weapons did a good video on this
"Heckler and COKE"
Itachi21x is how it’s pronounced
KOCH not COKE
That is how COKE is pronounced, yes. Koch is pronounced Koch.
Anil Löeb Nope. Read their webpage.
It's with a long O sound.
I like the last 3 minutes, reminds me of my childhood.
I did a lot of damage with the G11 on the original Call of Duty: Black Ops. Lots of angry kids on the other end of this baby. By far my favorite weapon in the game!
Nice weapon...I really like HKs & own/have owned many over the years. I think these weapons had potential, I REALLY like the added round capacity, and I'd even PAY MONEY to put one through it's paces.
Back in the day these were said to be the last word in combat rifles, as is common. That was the claim with the repeating rifle in the 1860s, the M1 in WW2 & the AK 47 later on. But when anyone tells me DON'T WORRY about maintenance/need to extensively strip & clean the weapon (as some claimed w/this one), I get worried. In the early 1960's, developers of the first M-16's said it was the perfect infantry weapon. The word to the troops was, "This weapon never needs cleaning!" That is until some anonymous decision maker decided that any old gunpowder would be fine for M16 ammo. That idiotic decision, made by someone who WOULD NOT have to carry it into combat (along with the humidity & general filth encountered in Vietnam) caused many American deaths due to jammed M-16s on the battlefield. It was EVENTUALLY corrected, but lesson learned. Murphy's Law, the inherent screw-ups in huge institutions, the unproven ballistic performance of the smaller caliber projectile. the weapon's lack of accuracy vs the M-16 other ACRs & the cost to revise/retrain/resupply failed to win the military over.
And the end of the USSR lowered threat levels to where it wasn't really needed anymore.
Neat to stretch the video over the 10 Minute Mark with bluescreen......
Politics got in the way .... as we so many things/East Germany :(
Does anybody know if any technical data was released from this project?
"the perfect solution for the mad man from the Irak"
btw, the action starts at 8:12
Wow thx, glad i didnt wAste time on the first 8 minutes. I thought 9:00 was life changing personally!
Wow, this thing works like a dream
holy crap!that gun was a game changer,lack of development ,in time killed it.it is probably the future of assault rifles.2000 rpm on 3 shot burst.few modern weapons can match that.we britts are not allowed guns.but is on my wish list,for christmas 2020.only 1000 production rifles made.i just want one.
But none of the companys that were trying to make an acr (advance combat rifle ) made a sucseccful product because of costs amd things being to complicated for the time period
I had no idea tannerite has been around that long
My love of life gun. at least i got a copy of it at home, so i can do.... things...
Brilliant video, can’t believe it didn’t get adopted
I wish the G11 had been ready for production five years earlier.
(As it is NOT very correct to say it would have been ok if the West- and East Germany had reunited five years later!)
Mhh those 2000 rpm bursts sound awesome. Cool design high fire rate burst, lower firerate full auto.
Caseless tech is NOT dead! Not at all. The LSAT program contracted out had been further developing it since the G11. The technology readiness keeps increasing. They are also developing polymer-cased cartridges that are at an even higher readiness!
Now, the NGSW program has replaced the LSAT program (NGSW-AR and NGSW-R) for an M249 replacement. The Army has selected a 6.8mm bullet size and prefers polymer casings apparently. The Marines is the branch pushing for caseless development. The first NGSW-AR prototypes will be given to the Army for testing in June 2019 after a 12-month deadline ends for the 6 contractors (including Textron) to make prototypes of the rifle and ammuntion.
polymer casings doesn't sound caseless? or does the polymer also burn away?
@@slopedarmor No, with a polymer case it's not caseless. Textron was contracted to develop their CT (cased telescoped) ammunition over many years and more recently in 6.5mm. Now that the army decided on a 6.8mm bullet, that's what they will present them with in June 2019. You can read more about the CT system online.
I kinda wonder if cookoffs were still an issue.
Nope. Dynamit Nobel produced a high ignition temperature propellant, HITP in short, which raised the self ignition temperature to about twice the temps you see on regular powder.
I always wondered what happened if you had a dud primer. How did they clear it?
@@rifleshooterchannel208 by a hole in the bottom.
@@rifleshooterchannel208 Manually cycling the action inserts a new round and ejects whatever's in the chamber through a port on the bottom.
@@zibingotaeam3716 but the heat problem was still an issue with the rotary chamber lasting to only 3500 rounds
Field stripped = The plastic off & the barrel out :-l See (St. Ian the messiah @) Forgotten Weapons
HK has taught a clock how to be a soldier and marksmanship...lol
That’s where I had my fire training
What a dream of a weapon! Too bad it had its problems. And I think it'd be better just giving out full long magazines to reload instead of the cumbersome reload with short mags.
verfed it was canceld because of the renuification of east and west germany
It has 7 built in 50rounds long magazines
gunter901 no 2 spares on the sides, effectively giving 150 rounds on man.
@@Relayzy1 not to mention that the ammo was about 40% lighter than nato 5.56. So a single man could easily carry well over 300 rounds.
if they could have cracked the caseless ammo formula it would have changed firearms development permanently.
Call Of Duty - Black Ops brought me here.
Just imagine how the world would be if this was the standard rifle of the US military.
I als wonder how many people in the comment section know so much about this thing... things debunked by Ian some days ago.
We would have to accept a whole new level of rifle inaccuracy, it looks to me.
How many times did that guy miss his boom-boom targets at both ranges? I've seen kids right out of AIT shoot better with M16A2s at those distances on pop-up ranges.
@@boydgrandy5769 Sorry, but it _was_ more accurate than the AR platform rifles... just not as much as they wanted (100% increase in certain conditions).
Phantom Forces.
Now we are going to clean the weapon! (FFW 1 hour) the weapon is now field stripped!
But he field stripped it and but it back togheter in little less than 1 minute, stopping to show people the parts too.
Jason Bowen give the engineers some credit. Although the thing is a Rube Goldberg contraption, all of the complexity is not dealt with the infantryman but is instead an armorer level task. If something goes wrong with the barrel-breech assembly (the official term for that complex part), just remove the plastic cover and stuff in another bolt.
Actually it's to be cleaned in some seconds. There's even a cleaning tool integrated. :)
the guy is clearly drunk
Too bad these things were stupid expensive and complicated.
Germans just didn't need anything new because the war was over, America kept the m16 because it was cheaper, but if you youtube the gun it's not that complicated . Pretty cool
Would have developed into something seriously effective, too.
Not that complicated just different. Expensive very much so.
If everyone had your mindset we would still be communicating via grunts and beating each other over the head with rocks and clubs...
@@rodiculous9464 You haven't been to San Francisco in a while, have you?
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Germany is the shit!!!!
"At h and k we think we have the perfect solution to the problem of the man man mmemororac"
my proudest fap
Awesome demonstration commented by Donald Trump Jr himself !
винтовка которой просто не повезло!😑
he's going to demonstrate his inaccurate ability lol
I wonder why they didn't use the 3 round burst for the 300 meter target. That's what it was designed for!
hey 5 inches at 300 is pretty damn good, he got it really quick too. probly a fairly light projectile too, 300 with some wind will really shift your group. it was decent shooting
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ya but how many times did he miss the target?
@@bobthompson4319 he missed 3 shots? how many does it take you to make hits on a five inch target out at 300 with a non-magnified optic? that's about the size of your palm, btw. it wouldn't be bad shooting even without other factors, such as the inherent accuracy of the rifle (being generous, probly meets most mil standards ~3moa), the consistency of the ammunition, weather conditions like wind, and visiblity issues etc
@@ilovethatkatielovesclassic8771, as well as having the sun in his eyes to some extent, eh?
I'd take a dozen or two plus 10 overseas containers (40' of course) full of ammo and spares, thank you.
He didnt put it in water like the guy said 😦
@Gsfbffx Pdhhdf He did, just not at the point that the guy said he would.
Um guys you don't need to blow up an Iraqi model just to show your weapon capabilities.
Can‘t see jak shit
Coke haha
It won’t be long until they put real people down range as targets.
A forgettable rifle by a forgettable company. HK can't engineer anything but product improved M4's. Poor civilian support and lots of contempt for contempt civilians - it seems like it is built into their business plan.
Hater much?!?
you must be poor
Thats why so many SWAT-Teams around the world use MP-5s still today...
You just described Colt.
Poor Baxter. Must be hard being as stupid as you.