486 100MHz MS-DOS PC Build!
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Woo! I'm finally ready to build my 486 DOS PC! I've been looking forward to this for a long time!
I have been having tons of fun with this thing and it's going to open so many doors for more videos now. I have a lot of stuff that just needed to be run with a proper DOS computer and this fits the bill perfectly. Not to mention that it's great for games as well!
Specs:
CPU: Intel DX4-PR100 Overdrive
Motherboard: Biostar MB-8433UUD-A
RAM: 20MB of EDO
HDD: 32GB SD Card through a generic SD2IDE adapter
Video: Diamond SPEA Mirage Video 1MB SVGA
Sound: Formosa SC1616 ? (Soundblaster Pro clone using ES688 and real OPL YMF262)
MIDI: PC-MIDI card ( www.serdashop.... )
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XT towers are so cool, really wanna build my own 8088 clone in something like that someday.
Awesome build man, as expected!
Thanks!
It's a super cool case, I wish I knew what it was. An 8088 clone would be fun to setup in something like it. The closest thing I have a clone PC board so it's only five ISA slots and would really underwhelm this case.
Was looking through the comments for lgr. I knew you couldn't resist a comment on the goodness of this video
Third!
@@TechTangents If you happen to figure out who made the case, please share. I have one just like it and would like to know more about it.
@ 52:00 i felt that he channeled you, hahaha.
An hour of 486 tinkering? I'm looking forward to this!
8:27 A Pentium 1, running XP, with a Wifi card. Jeez, someone wanted to get their money's worth.
That case. It's big, it has a giant red switch. IT HAS A TURBO BUTTON.
It is just going 'uuuuussseeee meeeeeee.'
You know what it does right?
@@johns3655 Depending on the motherboard the 'turbo' button downclocks to a set speed, or some even started in the slower speed until you hit the turbo button to go to the processor's rated clock speed. However the latter is very rare.
It''s a shame it only has a 2-digit Mhz indicator. Often there was a 1 extra at the left side, obviously to display "lol", or for the rare case that you have a +99 Mhz machine.
my friend used to turn off the turbo mode to slow the hell down the aladdin game slot machine bonus and get all the free lives every single time
@@pec1739 that was my trick too for some games. I loved the Sierra adventure games back in the day, so turned off turbo and set the game speed to slow for some tricker sections, such as the root monster maze in SQ2, or the quicksand maze in LSL3.
Back when I had a 486-100MHz PC, I used Windows NT 3.51 instead of DOS. It was a much more potent operating system. Hey, I see a TRS-80 MC-10 in the background! Now THAT is vintage.
100Mhz was a BEAST for a 486. I remember the original Pentiums(586) back in the day starting at around 75Mhz. This was the time period where your computer was unusable after a year or two. Now you can get by for at least a decade with a new PC before you HAVE to upgrade.
I have a 60Mhz Pentium, but along those line, yes.
Very true. I used to buy a top of the line desktop computer and buy a new one every 7 or so years. Due to moving and some other things, last time I upgraded after 13 years. It would obviously not run triple A titles anymore in early 2022, but it was and still is a fine computer.
@@incumbentvinyl9291 Yeah, I was a teenager when the Pentium first came out, and as the de-facto IT department for the family business I convinced my parents that we needed to upgrade from our Packard Bell DX2 66Mhz. Even though the Pentium was only 60 Mhz, I remember it ran my games way better than the 486. The business applications ran fine too, lol.
I believe that was the first system I built. I remember picking up the processor from the store. It was crazy expensive...I don't remember exactly, but I believe it was $800 or $900.
Several years ago I was given some old computers from a doctor's office to wipe/scrap. They had Pentium processors, and I was able to sell them since people apparently scrap the gold out of them.
@@indianapolisindiana7856 Interesting. 800USD sounds cheap for this new technology at that time to be honest. A decent computer easily cost 3-4k.
That's odd. One would think the processors are worth more if functional, than the miniscule amount of gold in them.
Yeah the first pentiums came out at 60 and 66MHz. Rumor back then was the 60s were 66 rejects.
At that time the best I could afford was a cyrix clone of a 486DX2-50.
Immediate hype when I hear that inflected “Thiiiis...is a...”
thiiiis is a 2015 toyota camry, i'm gonna go over it's quirks and features and give it a doug score.
galaxymode would watch
@@ctommy205 same
A literal power hour of DOS 486 goodness? Hell yes. That was a neat little experience that left me feeling significantly less under-educated on the ins and outs of 486 PCs.
To be honest, I don't even watch these because I'm particularly interested in old PCs, but more because OP seems to be savy and so passionate about technology in general that comes off genuine and wholesome.
Good on you, OP!
THIS VIDEO IS FREAKING AWESOME!!! What a blast seeing all that hardware/software working together and just having plain fun. Reminds me of all the things I wish I had time to do when I was working on computers in the past but never had time for after I got home from work. So satisfying. Thanks a million.
My first pc was a 468, my dad surprised me when i got a perfect score in 2nd grade back in 1990.
I still remember unloading all the boxes from my dad’s car.
Btw it was during the war here in Beirut.
Shout out to the Lebanese, you're not often seen on the Internet! My dad worked in Beirut during the war, in the embassy of my country, and talks fondly of his time there, and the (chilling to me) experience of crossing the green line to shop for electronics.
djdjukic cool, which embassy? It’s a small country and a small capital so i probably know where ur dad worked.
Edit: i wish we weren’t on the internet, if that was the case my road rage level would have been way down, every single car driver checks his social media while driving.
It was the Yugoslav embassy. I suppose they sold it, or stopped renting it after the country fell apart, as only Serbia has an embassy in Lebanon now and it's no longer in the western part of Beirut, but in an office building in Kaslik. It must have not been far from the (original) US embassy - dad recalls the diplomatic staff going to the Americans to get a couple of cartons of eggs during a food shortage. One egg per day per man.
I'm with you on the distracted drivers - I prefer to encounter ones that drive slowly instead of badly...
djdjukic djdjukic you’re right,the Serbian embassy is in Kaslik, 20 minutes away from where i live and the current US embassy is 5 minutes away, the old US embassy which was bombed was in western Beirut.
We didn’t have much food shortages here, i do remember bread shortages going on for a week or 2 with people waiting in line.
I’m happy your father finished finish his term here and returned safely, in the late 80’s Hezbollah targeted and kidnapped westerns but East Europeans were’t targeted.
Interesting to read about you guys 😊, just got a 8088 computer 🤣
486 was a build I abandoned back in 1999. It could do about anything for the day except play MP3 files, and avi videos, but mp2 did work. Upgraded to a AMD K6/2-500, and it was a beast compared to the 486. I however soon noticed that it too would not play some movie formats. Wasn't until I got a Athlon 800mhz did every limitation seemed to go away. At least until adobe changed coding for flash player, making internet obsolete again. Seems that software developers always got you by the balls, telling you when to upgrade your computer, filling landfills with perfectly functional hardware.
I built an AMD 133mhz 486 back in 04 or so. Overclocked it to 150mhz. I loaded it up with Windows 98SE and managed to get it to run with a Quantum Bigfoot drive a little over 2gb. Had a Opti video card with 512kb ram and a generic sound blaster compatible. 48mb edo ram. Also put in a USB 1.1 card. It handled media well enough. We had Napster on it and would download and watch DragonBall Z in Mpeg2. Mp3s worked well. Gameboy color emulators were playable but a little slow unless set to a very tiny window. Starcraft and Diablo ran well.
I really want to build that system again
@@xBruceLee88x best part, with win 98, you could run those programs. I remember using the first word processor Ami- pro. Still have a Win95 image with it. Brings memories. Win98 worked really well except for a memory hole running it too many days and 4gb file size limitation with FAT32. The latter was the killer for the OS. I did manage to get a 200gb hard drive working with it, when 120gb was pretty much the max size you could use.
Bought my k6-2 300 in 1998, there's was no k6-2 500 yet at time. It was my first computer and it was very expensive. Since then, I only change pc when my motherboard malfunctions. Sometimes not even then, as I'm still with my Ryzen 5 2400g since 2018 (changed motherboard this year and kept the rest of the configuration intact).
@@Neomalthusiano I have a 3900 ryzen. I absolutely love AMD since Ryzen. I found a hack resource so I can operate Windows 7 with it. Fairly detailed process to enable usb with boot disk. AMD did that intentionally, because if you code drivers for the 2000 series to load for the 3000/5000 series, everything works great.
One day consumers will recall the games manufacturers played and will pull the plug on them.
@@pixels303at-odysee9 If I recall correctly, this issue with Windows 7 was the other way around. It was Microsoft that didn't want to update W7 to solve the issue it had with usb drivers when in modern hardware. Their intent was to force users to update to W10, even more forcefully than they do it nowadays pushing W11.
Except for a time when I got a Pentium 4 in late 2000s (couldn't find AMD Sempron at time), I'm an AMD user since 1998 and I have no intention to change...there's too much that Intel does behind the scenes. As I survived the AMD stagnation in early 2010s, I'll handle anything.
"DOS=HIGH,UMB" probably would have given you that extra 20k :)
Menu configs for when needing even more RAM is nice though.
Also, he could have tried running the "memmaker" command. Ah, the memories. :-)
There is also LOADHIGH or LH. here is the wiki en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOADHIGH
Yes, and Ak should use Memmaker, and make sure that Autoexec drivers are ran with the LOADHIGH command (or LH) to get more RAM back.
I once made a boot disk with mouse and CD support that had 624k of convetional memory free. Don't remember what it was for, though, but there was some game that actually needed it.
Yep, all of the drivers could be loaded into high memory using memmaker. That would solve the driver problem (more than likely).
5 mins in and already two things worth their own videos: Inwin cases and fixing dallas rtc's. GOOD STUFF
MS-DOS 6.x does not support any more than 64 MB of RAM, although PC DOS 7.0 and 2000 do. And that PS/2 port next to the keyboard connector is non-standard for a Baby AT motherboard. The later AT boards that had a PS/2 mouse port usually had it mounted on an expansion slot bracket.
In Soviet Alabama, PC does not have motherboard, it has uncle-cousinboard
In Soviet Russia computer uses you
@@F27838 babouskaboard
Stalinboard
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Wow! This video brings back memories. The last computer I built, for a customer, was a 486dx40 in a Prolinea case...heheheh...that was a very long time ago. I really enjoyed your video...sigh, those days are forever gone...Thanks for the memory!
I'm a complex man, I see the DOS logo, I click like. 👍
1:35 - Frequency LED displays are fake, they have two states that are manually hard-coded, they don't read the actual freq. :-\
2:15 - Ah, the good old OverDrive! 😀 I still have some of the Intel promotional materials and floppies for them.
2:54 - I swear I almost miss configuring motherboard jumpers. Almost. (What are those resistor packs for? 🤔)
5:12 - …cache, tag-RAM…
6:35 - Good old pre modular, interchangeable-part case days. Many a case was modded to accommodate stuff.
11:06 - Agreed. ☹
12:36 - Why didn't you just attach the coin-cell holder to the top of the existing battery box? 🤨
15:00 - Yeah, they're surprisingly complex and simple and disappointing all at the same time. :-|
44:00 - A kid in my school fried a motherboard at work by doing that in the 90's, but that was an IBM PS/1. I've never had issues hot-plugging PS/2 with other motherboards.
54:37 - *packet-driver 😉
54:45 - You could go back in time 15 years and use Lynx or Arachne to surf the Internet.
57:23 - My favorite disk-copying tool for DOS is the select-and-save-to-file functions of Norton Disk Doctor.
Regarding the LED displays... yeah, they were. I remember "programming" them with jumper blocks to display the correct values in both turbo and non-turbo modes, and of course having to update it after an upgrade. You really didn't want to lose the bit of paper with the jumper map! XD
Arachne is super slow though. Dillodos is much more modern and works much better ^^
Microsoft also had their own program called DSKIMAGE.EXE, which I still use on my 386DX-40. "dskimage a: image.img". Though it doesn't do retries on faulty diskettes, so perhaps I should switch to the DSKIMAGE shown in the video.
Trivia: Microsoft's DSKIMAGE has a copyright date of "1991-1992" so I suspect it was written around the time of very early versions of Windows NT 3.1. Curiously it's a bound executable (built with Microsoft C 6.0) that will run as both a DOS real mode app and also a native protected mode 16-bit OS/2 app, which also makes it one of the few OS/2 apps Microsoft released after their split with IBM in 1991. At that time (and until Windows XP was released) Windows NT could run 16-bit OS/2 apps, so it was one of the few programs I know of that would run under DOS, OS/2 & Windows NT without modification.
54:45 Aracne ! Yesss man
Comments like these need to be on every single RUclips video.
I loved my 486 DX4 system! For its time it was a beast.
I came across a new-old-stock of these cases (IN-Win A500) about 2 years ago, posted on reddit and had like 15 people send me money, I bought the cases and then shipped them out. I was poor AF and couldn't afford my own- Once of the nice chaps sent extra money and told me to buy one for myself, BEFORE I had even shipped his out. It's sitting behind me as a Pentium-120mhz confuser
Three of those blokes are now pretty good retro friends.. And I've got a collection of retro hardware now that probably rivals LGR. (No where near the software collection though) Sadly, I haven't come across anything to whet Clint's appetite yet.. Yet. ;)
Any suggestions for how to find old hardware? I scan Craigslist every week or so but haven't found much after 2 years. Mostly looking for a early 90s tower case
That red power switch reminds me of my IBM PS/2 Model 80
No it doesn't. What did I tell you about lying to the internet to just impress your internet friends? They are not real people. Have you ever met people off the internet? Didn't think so. Just ask the "surprise guest stars" on chris hansons "to catch a predator. You are probably a predator if your real. "Come here little boy I'm a friend of your mother. There is candy in the van, get in the van!
@@daveb5041 wtf?
It's a very IBM PS/2-style switch.
As a kid, I remember being excited when a version of DOS was coming out. How geeky was that, lol!
I like the incongruity of the colorful and aesthetic DOS 6.22 retail box, with the same old black/white screen with a blinking text prompt.
Holy crap, we had that case -- the super tall one -- in a 386/33 when I was a kid that ran NovelDos. Later, we upgraded it to a 586/133 with Windows 95. Well, a local guy built it, and he basically hot-glued everything in. Our next dimension was a Pentium III Dell machine at 500 mhz. Where did you find this, I must have a new one!
Unfortunately I got it at Goodwill, I have no idea what it even is. If I knew I'd gladly tell you!
Very cool setup! I love the super tall case. You don't see those any more.
45:30 Microprose F1 Grand Prix (AKA World Circuit) from 1992 has the same problem - it needs about 600K free RAM or it will bounce you back to the prompt with a not-very-helpful error.
46:49 I don't bother running SMARTDRV on my 386DX-40. It boot DOS from a CompactFlash so it seemed a bit superfluous. It probably speeds up CD-ROM access on your system, though.
48:33 You have no UMB memory available which is why you're having trouble cramming all the drivers into conventional memory. Normally you'd have "DEVICEHIGH=C:\DOS\EMM386.EXE NOEMS" and "DOS=HIGH,UMB" in CONFIG.SYS, then you'd have about 615K free RAM, then "LOADHIGH C:\DRV\CTMOUSE" in AUTOEXEC.BAT. As I recall MS-DOS 6.x also supplies the MEMMAKER program which was intended to automate all that, though you have to run it manually.
I'm also a big fan of substituting COMMAND.COM with the (now open source) 4DOS shell, especially for things like filename Tab completion. Unzip 4DOS to C:\4DOS then put "SHELL=C:\4DOS\4DOS.COM" in CONFIG.SYS.
55:11 A cool alternative to mTCP if your server runs Linux (and you don't want to run an FTP server) is EtherDFS. etherdfs.sourceforge.net/
sometimes I come watch your videos when I got to bed. it's so relaxing to have a soothing voice and computer tinkering in the background
God I remember those days. How time flies.
Man. Love that old Simpson analog meter. I still use one for finding ground faults on fire alarm systems.
Just like the lgr video, your pc builds so far have been amazing. Hope the comparison isn't rude, I love your focus on hardware.
I quite enjoy them too!
@@LGR seeing all my favorite channels watching each other never gets old, thank you for showing off E3's unintimidating guard dogs
OMG, seeing that Leading Edge logo brought me WAY back, that 486/16 was our first computer!
LOL This brings back memories. My first PC build was a 486DX4-100. I put it in this massive server case that was at least 3 feet tall. Everyone who saw it, the first thing out of their mouths was man that must be a fast computer.
My Uncle had that case, we went to TN to visit & I remember how excited he was lol (he's only 12 years my Senior, so he was in his early/mid-20s)
He had a Giant Case with Wolfenstein 3d! a Drawer for his Floppies took up 1 or 2 of the bays,
It was a KILLER! 386 System!
we can notice the joy when you are talking and explaining this stuff, that with the 2 or 3 brains inside your head make this awesome videos . youre like an encyclopedia .
tks for all your work man. keep them coming.
The other two pins in a PS/2 connector are for combination connectors that you split into keyboard and mouse connectors using a splitter cable.
I so miss this era. I lived it and breathed it, while growing up abroad in Taiwan, which just so happened to be the OEM country for practically everything found in PC Mag or PC Computing. Those were the days of Macromedia, AOL, Juno, VIewSonic, Creative, US Robotics, etc. Practically all of these brands were manufactured in the 3 import export processing zones in Taiwan, one of which was a stone's throw from my house. There were also the computer shows and computer streets that sold them all, sometimes before other countries got them. Although I admit my era was a bit late, the 386 era, it was amazing. You have no idea how many nightmares I've had because of the old machines I stupidly threw out. At one time I even worked at a computer recycling company, where I easily let thousands of old hardware and software go straight into recycle bins. Oh, the nightmares. I had free access to more items that any RUclipsr could have ever dreamed of. Oh the pain. I literally threw out truckloads of every type of computer software/hardware you could imagine. They were sold by their weight to China or local raw material recycle plants. Trucks of monitors. Trucks of motherboards. Trucks of unopened Windows software. Oh the pain. Occasionally, I saved a few, because of this inner feeling, but through thee years, during moves, threw them out. I have sinned.
I LOVE that case. It's very cool how it can accept full height drives. Even the HDD caddy accepts a full height 5.25 HDD. That case looks to be a close copy of a PS/2 tower.
It's amazing that new old stock like This exists. I remember this stuff when it was sold at computer shows. Before you bought your stuff online you went to computer shows and bought all your components at hundreds of vendors gathered in one place and built your new computer in one day
Holy cow, I remember the shows in the late 486 days just as Pentiums were coming out.
Some of the vendors were playing a video of Top Gun in a little tiny window to show just how ripping fast their computers were. I was really impressed by that little 240 x 480 (?) window and the super jerky motion!
My first PC (1999) was a 486 DX4 100 MHz, 32 MB RAM, 2 GB HDD, CD-ROM, S3 graphics card, ESS1868 AudioDrive soundcard, Windows 95 + MS-DOS 6.22, Office 97, software, games, etc. I even spoiled part of my college (university) engineering studies to learn how to be a pro as an advanced PC user!! :D
33:30 - OH GOSH! Someone else made the 'menu' on their computer too! Man, that takes me right back... I also made bat files that would unzip, and then run a game, and then once it was done it would zip the game back up again, and even split the game up AND make a checksum file to be sure that they copied correctly... Since hard disk space was always running out, I had to get creative to keep at much free as I could.
Oh yes I did something Ike this menu on my 8088 also!
I've only gotten to 15 minutes, but this is already very educational, especially for the segmented display how-to link, which is something I will have to use myself soon in my restoration. My restoration as it came to me is a 25.5-inch tall case, disabled turbo button, disabled segmented display, Micronics motherboard with 386DX-25 processor, 387 math coprocessor, controller board with controller BIOS and capacity for 4 floppy drives, a full 8 MB. RAM board (full of 128 kB. chips) (expandable to 16 MB.), 4 outward facing drive bays and 2 internal drive bays, and a 33600-baud modem card.
brings me back to my early computer days with my 286, HD is dead but I got the feeling I'll be playing with it a little bit more in the future, you got me motivated to do so
I love the way you organize your workplace. It's neat and clean, probably it simply reflects the way of your thinking: smart and clean as well. I really envy your ability to make it all clean. 😄😄
Good lord, Whiplash! That is the game that taught me DOS. It was a nightmare to get to run and there were always some issues with sound. Of course I didn't "learn" DOS, but more like I had to teach myself how to navigate the dark void of merely blinking lights guiding me that is DOS to get to my destination. As a kid in 95 this could be quite scary. Managed to get the sound running from time to time, other times not so much. The game itself was (and is - I have a DOSBOX copy of it on my computer now) insanely fun. Zizin is my car of choice thanks to the fun drifting.
When we experienced the times they were frustrating as hell. Now I just miss them. Miss the sense of adventure to even get a game running. That feel of first time running it, hoping it would run smooth.
Good call on the cardboard. Back in around 2001 I decided to attempt to fit an AT motherboard into an ATX case. Needless to say, there was smoke!
Ahhhhh ..... the good old days of 486s and DOS!
The days of the old modem going "do-do-do-do-do-do-do.........SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE......."
Great times!
My first step into x86 was a 486 - 120 mhz.. Before that I owned a C64 (yes I waited a while to upgrade). Not to long after I got my computer I installed a Matrox Mystique and then later a Power VR card. Both cards made it to my next computer which was a Cyrix pr166. So many hours of Dungeon Master 2, Diablo, Fallout 1 and 2, Everquest... I don't remember another time in my computer history that I had so much fun gaming.
Congratulations on the video, I had one in my childhood.
That is nostalgic. 486 + MS-DOS 6.22 .
Windows 95, 98, 2000, XP, 7 a 10 byli především velmi výkonné s neskutečně velmi vysokou výdrží. Současně modely už neodpovídají zrovna takové kvality jako byli ještě doposud.
OH DAYM! One of my father's friends was a graphics designer and had that HUGE case! This was the early 90's and I have know Idea what he had in there at the time (i was like 12 and was just getting into computers) but I do remember all the sounds it made when starting up. When my parent went over to their house for dinner engagements (or whatever adults in the 90's did. I didn't give a shit) he would let me play all the DOS game he had, Kings Quest I through IV, Space Quest, Attack chopper, some tank game, a couple of "cyberpunk" like adventure point and click/action game that for the life of me I can't remember the name of. Man. those were good times....
That case is truly glorious.
Watching someone discover the Extended/Logical partition kludge the hard way was priceless. :)
I had a DX 4 100mhz laptop, with internal CD rom and LCD display. This was back in 1996 and I was in High School. I worked all summer to save up for it.
It was AMAZING!!
I built the same system in 95/96. I would test my build with Lightwave renders. Used to upgrade so often in those days because processors and graphics cards were doubling performance every 12-18 months. Remember....$100 graphics cards.
I remember going from having paper workbooks at school, to saving all of my GCSE exam work on 3-1/2 floppy disks and we would have floppy's for English, Maths, Science etc in a little space in the classrooms filing cabinet. I remember beiong told to "stop fiddling" with the springloaded metal bit on the floppy lol by a teacher worried I would delete all my work. Dark times. A mix of Blackboards with chalk and glass overhead projectors with plastic sheets and upcoming new technology like the internet and PC's in every classroom with floppy disk drives. Crazy mix of old and new.
When I was a junior in high school (87) I took computer science class... We learned BASIC programming on old 1981 TRS80s... The one and only old computer I would have ZERO interest in having these days.
Bro you got me so into Retro Gaming now I'm going to go out and buy an old computer wow bro thank you I've just have been been watching your videos
Wow that MS-DOS install was so nostalgic, with pc speaker beep every time to change disks. I used to install MS-DOS and Windows 9x so many times on so many computers when I was younger.
I love how his "Uh uh." sonded like the galaga death sound.
Back in the day I had this exact case. I mounted my Commodore Amiga 1000 board and PC sidecar board in it! Took a bit of modification as I remember but I got it working. The PC XT sidecar allowed the use of a hard drive controller and I had (I think) a 20mb HDD with an RLL controller configured for two 15mb partitions, one for Amiga and one for the XT. As you probably know the RLL controller allowed formatting of some high-spec drives with more sectors or something (I can’t remember the details), and it basically added on third to the rated ST506 capacity.
My first PC was a DX4-100. It came originally with a 750MB harddrive for which I got mocked at school -- it was considered 'unnecessarily large'.
750mb, and today you can get a 4tb HDD quiet cheap! The same as when he mention the max ram for the motherboard is 128MB!
64GB of ram is becoming the norm recently.
Same. Mine had an 850 MB Western Digital Caviar and I guess my friends were jelly, because I could copy an entire 650 MB CD to it!
Unnecessarily large? 😂😂 I wonder they would think of today's drive sizes (I've got a 500gb SSD and a 3tb hard drive)
@@IanC14 That's what I was thinking buddy. I've only just got back into pcs after 8 years and remember when ssds became mainstream. I paid about £140 for a Samsung 60gb SSD, now you can get 240gb for £25!
As soon I saw this pop up on my recommended feed, I just knew I had to click. This really takes me back. I had a 486 DX2 up till about 2000, a great machine. Prior to that I had a 8088 XT, and recall getting an EGA card for Christmas in 1987, and trying to install it to not effect. I didn't know about DIP switches at the time, so didn't set them to the new card...or I was just a decade or so ahead of myself for the "plug n play" era we're in now :)
16:05 16bit ISA is slower than 32bit PCI, for sure.. ISA+VLB, however, could rival PCI's performance. It just lost the war due to lack of ACPI, BusMastering, IRQ sharing, and PnP.
Also because of the inherent transition to ever smaller cards and slots. At least until nVidia showed up, anyway.
LOL how ironic my friend, all the cases you shown in this video apart from the big one I have actually owned at one point or another in my builds and upgrades to my own computers at the time of the 486 and Pentium, I actually used to build the CYRIX and the OVERDRIVE chips they were pretty good to fiddle with trying to get the speeds right back then lol but as a novice back then it helped me learn how to tinker with old tech. oh my they have it so easy now with everything built on to the boards .. back then it was so much more challenging ... excellent video as per usual
The reboot at first was to mark the partition active, then after reboot, you can have 4 active partitions, or 3 active, and 1 extended. I use a Partition manager from HiRens for all that.
And LVM can do it all too, you just have to be aware of the limitations of a FAT16 Partition. ( DOS 6.22 and DOS 7.0 both have this limitation of 2GB. )
I am just poking around for a Tandy 2000 or 286 Motherboard.
And by the way F3 key gives you last command.
Man love your vids always! They are very informative and I'm still looking for a 486 board similar to that one without breaking the bank LoL. That case looks like Adrian's Digital Basement has with a 286 in it it's awesome too. Can't wait to see the next vid. Thank you very much!
Saved this to watch later, love this stuff, so glad I found your channel. 🙂
That's a fine build and a great video, I haven't much to say, but a couple of things:
You should have a tag ram chip slightly faster that the rest of the cache (since it needs to go thru it first) -12 would've been good for example but it's not that big of a deal.
Don't put 128mb of memory, the cache (by that I mean the tag chip) can only do up to 64mb and dos 6.22's memory manager only supports up to 64mb anyway.
Dos doesn't care with capitalised letters unlike linux.
I tried to doing 2 floppy controllers, it won't work unless either the bios supports it or you get a floppy controller card with it's own rom to have that support.
Sadly I was too young to see any of this and now I think that is a real shame but I absolutely enjoyed and loved this video. I started soon after with a Windows 95 laptop and almost instantly there was Windows 98 and then Windows ME + Windows 2000 Professional. Gosh though, I wish I could have had been able to use and play with computers like this and learn hey!! I absolutely enjoyed every moment of this video and I sent the link to many of my friends so they can watch it and hopefully get something out of it like I did :)
0:40 Bahahaha, I used to have a *bunch* of systems in those Inwin cases-my main PC lived in one of the taller ones for years and years. XD
7:20 Haha, and those cases on the left too... and maybe even that 50× CD drive.
9:43 Oh dear... commenting while watching... I would be inspecting the pinouts in the manual for the motherboard very very carefully, but I'd be willing to bet you haven't got it. I sure hope that works out for you!
11:30 Awesome!
15:41 Ooooh, S3, the first company to make a video *de*celerator. XD
16:23 LEADING EDGE! Haven't heard that brand name in _forever!_
I had the InWin Q500 through a few systems, until I lost it in a house fire. Never found anything that could properly replace it. It got so banged up on occasions that I had to re-do a lot of rivets.
@@SenileOtaku Oh no! So sorry for your loss! I _do_ have an amusing anecdote about banged-up cases, however... A friend of mine, a bit over 20 years ago, flew from Washington DC to visit his family in Auckland, NZ, and he thought his desktop computer would be fine packed back into the styrofoam inserts in the box it came from, as checked luggage. He got away with this for two trips, but on the third, on the leg back to the US, it apparently sustained some kind of *_massive_* impact. The CPU had been knocked clear out of its ZIF socket and then banged around a bunch inside the case - _all_ of the pins were bent - and the case itself had been bent from a rectangle into... sort of a trapezoid-shape. I think he said it took him something like three hours to very, very carefully straighten all the pins on his CPU, but... other than that, everything still actually worked, and he kept using it for at _least_ another three years after!
I'd love to see this thing with a drive-bay CRT monitor in it, it looks like it'd be a perfect candidate for one of those
Can't wait to see this build more.
Due to personal nostalgia, this video receives an obligatory 'like' even before it starts playing.
Looking forward to that separate video on the LED mhz display. I have
one and would love to get it working properly. So far I've only been
able to get a couple of segments lit, but no further.
"I like when I dont burn down my house" to each their own.
Some people like burning down their house. That's why they use Intel!
@@sqwyd nah that's when you want to be exposed to security vulnerabilities
@@IanC14 Spoken like someone that never used a Prescot P4. Those were legendary firebeasts. Less of a hot computer, more of a space heater that also did computing.
@@CptJistuce true that
Pentium 4 draw intensifies...
PC magazines back in the day would have done front page feature articles on doing such an ultimate fantasy 486 build.
I remember those tower cases! Had 3 or 4 of them in the late 90's. Big enough to throw in just about anything, multiple floppy drives, extra HD's, even had a ZIP drive in one. The vertical drive bay was in my opinion useless (never liked mounting drives vertical) so I just removed them. That created easier access to the MB which was a bonus. They of course didn't have the 3.5" drive bays, but I had plenty of the adapters at the time. Great memories!
This reminds me of my first real computer (After a TRS 80). An IBM PS/1 DX 2-50. I upgraded it to an AMD 4-100. I forgot how much crap you had to go through in DOS. This was a great trip through the old neighborhood. Thanks.
*That's my old monitor and keyboard! Seriously I had a leading edge computer as a kid then we upgraded to a gateway 2000 because 2000 was futuristic and not a time before the country lost it's mind politically. The leading edge was 3 or 7 MHz so fast running dial up to bbs's... Yeah my parents were pissed when I found the phone jack on the back of the computer and a modem floppy disk; 5 1/2" with that leading edge triangle on it, that was mixed in with the setup disks that it came with. Remember when 100$ phone bills were outrageous and not something the phone company tricked you into buying to make your smart phone able to just turn on? Ahhh choices as a consumer, really miss that* Hell I miss $100 phone bills too!
You can still get Maxim (formerly Dallas) RTC modules new from e.g. Digi-Key.
For a maintainable alternative, I made a PCB to adapt the SMT version of the RTC and a CR2032 holder into a DIP that goes into the old socket. There's a Vogons thread on it with OSH Park link and BOM.
Brings me back to the good old DOS days. Back when you could really make a buck, building a machine. I have become a vintage computer collector now.
I have pretty much all the full DOS versions up to 5.0 and a lot of the Windows version starting with a sealed Windows v1.03.
I love the old computer, from the Altair 8800 to the Atari 800 and many in between. Take a quick look and let me know what you think... I do not think you will be very disappointed.
Keep up the good work AkBKukU !!!
With the weird video output issues, that was quite common back then because there were so many different video cards and no set standard. One possible solution, if you can even find it is something called Univibe. It was a universal VESA driver that fixed a lot of issues like that for me back in the day. Plus I love the Realistic system, for those not old enough to remember Realistic was Radio Shacks in house brand.
Realistic stuff is pretty good from my experience. I have some sound equipment from them that is quality.
I thought it'd be an unfinished video, actually it's one of the most complete build a dos pc I've ever seen!
I really liked it! Thanks and enjoy it :)
Oh hey, I love that VVVVVV metal remix album by SoulEye and FamilyJules! Of course I'd be the one video game music turbonerd in the comments that recognizes it. Excellent choice!
wow, instant time machine video here.... takes me back to the good ol' days of PC building....
IDK why but you're like the perfect combo of Gamers Nexus, and Druaga1!
16:12
Also you should totally invert the polarity on the Turbo button to make it run at 100MHz when turbo'd.
That makes it extra cool.
This video gave me just the nostalgia trip I needed haha
My dad had a PC back in the early 2000s using that smaller InWin case! Now I know what to search for, thank you!
I remember it had a 733MHz P3 in it with 768MB RAM. I know what i'm building next!
I have an A500 case hanging out that is the home of my original P2 Celeron 500MHz build. (192MB RAM, whoa.) I put it together again thinking I'd need to use some legacy hardware needing an ISA slot (MLSSA card), but that didn't materialize. Because it's lived most of its life in storage out of the sun, it isn't yellowed.
My first IBM PC system was a 486 DX2 66 system, this brought back a lot of good memories. Prior to that my first computer was a Commodore 128. Great memories.
Awesome, I really like these long-form videos, and you did cut out a lot of the stuff that's been already seen, which greatly contributes to the quality!
If I may make a videographic suggestion, that 7-second long racking focus at 36:00 messes with one's eyes as there's nothing else to focus on for such a long time; it would have looked right at maybe twice the speed.
this is totally awesome .....brings back my childhood fun of dos an early windows :) keep up the good work :)
I had the very exact ATX pc case back in the day, as I think everybody did, and I think i must have carried it from 1995 till 2010 when i switched to laptops
1.2Mb drives *are* backwards compatible to 360kb disks. You can even format 360kb disks in it: that's what "FORMAT B: /F:360" is for (among other options).
RPM was never an issue. I think it's because RPM mainly affects data rate and is a function of the controller. It doesn't automatically make the disks incompatible.
An important point to remember is that the width of the tracks is different. 1.2 Mb DSHD disks are 80 tracks compared to the 40 tracks of the 360kb DSQD disk. This theoretically means that if the alignment is out on the 1.2Mb drive you may have trouble reading it on a 360kb drive but I don't remember it ever being an issue. It's not a problem reading 360kb disks in a 1.2Mb drive however which is the normal use for this (reading old data or installing from an old disk set). If you have trouble reading old 360kb disks in a 1.2 Mb drive it's more likely to be due to signal degradation. In this case it might theoretically be worth trying the 360kb drive (contrary to what I just wrote) as it might be able to read more of the remaining signal on the media. That would only be a problem with remaining signal strength though, not a track/sector compatibility issue.
Removable Motherboard tray? 100% Kickass Product. 3DGAMEMAN approved.
Rodney if you're out there, I'm missing you, and I hope you're well.
3D GAME (pause) MAN
My case has a removable motherboard tray
A true 486 is only with ISA and VLB!
Good video! (Y)
@Jacob Turner VLB doesn't have that much problems... Decent I/O and graphics can go on to VLB with no problems.
Shelby, The PS/2 mouse port actually uses an IRQ on the system. The reason why you shouldn't connect it while powered on, is that the IRQ could've been used already by another device if the mouse hasn't been connected during POST. PnP at it's best! :) (nice vid btw!)
No sub! Man you take me back, amazing how much I've forgotten. I used to have an old DOS 2.2 diskette I would copy I think config.sys and autoexec.bat to the hd to trick an upgrade version into thinking there was an existing full install on the machine. I miss these old beasts and dr. DOS as well. I still had an actual working amstrad 8086 up till a few years ago. Great video man.
This brings back such good tech memories
Good to know I'm not the only one who made a retro rig RUclips video take an hour lol... great job sir
Great stuff, really enjoyed it. My "first love" PC was my first self build PC, a 486DX4/100 (albeit an AMD one) with 16 megs of RAM, way back in 1995. I thought it was a beast of a machine back then, and it really was. But then one day not so long after, Quake happened.
This video brings back memories of working on our family 486/66, making boot discs for specific games with all kinds of specific configurations for stuff that required a CD but no mouse, or mouse but no CD, and so on. I seem to recall the strictest config was for either Abuse or Blackthorne, or possibly some other game that looked a bit like that.
I think I eventually replaced physical boot discs with a menu system like that, once I got some more DOS confidence.