How to pick the best gaming laptop for MS-DOS games.

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  • Опубликовано: 4 мар 2016
  • In this episode, I walk you through the pros and cons of many laptops from the 1980's and 1990's and show some of the differences.
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Комментарии • 4 тыс.

  • @Aguyontheinternet
    @Aguyontheinternet 7 лет назад +1847

    I both laughed and cringed at the two player demonstration. You're awesome!

  • @kdekov
    @kdekov 3 года назад +162

    12:44 that laugh cured my depression

    • @FireguyNtx
      @FireguyNtx 3 года назад +6

      Loved Duke Nukem in serial mode with my buds brings back memories.

    • @sicorange3
      @sicorange3 3 года назад +2

      @@FireguyNtx Man I always wanted to... that was my first pc game when in my introduction to a computer, and win95 lol

    • @Wreckedftfoxy
      @Wreckedftfoxy 2 года назад +1

      Lol

    • @a2pabmb2
      @a2pabmb2 2 года назад +1

      That wasn't depression, comrade. It's called a bad day.

  • @bikkiikun
    @bikkiikun 4 года назад +65

    FYI: DOSBox does have the capability to use Nullmodems and even IPX.

  • @Leinhauser01
    @Leinhauser01 4 года назад +215

    Me: *Learned computers in MS-DOS era*
    8-Bit Guy: MS-DOS are the ancestors of modern computers...
    Me: Damn I feel old.... :(

    • @NaturalSelection1452
      @NaturalSelection1452 3 года назад +20

      Kids now: What is computer, a very big smartphone?

    • @kingdededelicious
      @kingdededelicious 3 года назад +10

      @@NaturalSelection1452 sadly, they're becoming that (on the low end at least)

    • @astratheboop
      @astratheboop 2 года назад +2

      @@NaturalSelection1452 stfu, nobody acts like that

    • @ElDipsy69
      @ElDipsy69 2 года назад +1

      Aunque hables inglés no te dejaré salir

    • @Pdrum2
      @Pdrum2 2 года назад +1

      I remember one of my first computers I had with DOS, you pop in the CD and type in the command to Install.

  • @1un0_1n0
    @1un0_1n0 7 лет назад +326

    AWWW MAN NOT THE VOLCANO

  • @liamsamples2965
    @liamsamples2965 4 года назад +284

    "Aw man, not the volcano!" Lol

    • @rayzen_undogen
      @rayzen_undogen 3 года назад +8

      **volcano starts shooting**

    • @circuit_official
      @circuit_official 3 года назад +1

      Aw man not the hsydgdudhdh i mean.. 8-Bit-Guy

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 2 года назад +1

      "Aw man, not the volcano!" Lol

    • @santi100a
      @santi100a 2 года назад +3

      12:58

    • @poble
      @poble 2 года назад

      @@circuit_official ???

  • @MarkMcDaniel
    @MarkMcDaniel 4 года назад +66

    Wow, I loved how those old laptops had removable modular drives and peripherals.

    • @medexamtoolsdotcom
      @medexamtoolsdotcom 2 года назад +8

      They weren't made to scam you like now, they were made to work for a long time and have the individual parts be replaceable when they went bad.

    • @hornox4life
      @hornox4life Год назад +6

      Design decision driven by engineers instead of a marketing.

    • @alpzepta
      @alpzepta Год назад

      You gotta see how you opening up the IBM Thinkpad 755 series

  • @TonyDeCoste
    @TonyDeCoste 6 лет назад +36

    Seeing the two player setup and you having fun with a friend genuinely made my day, thank you David

  • @Podcastage
    @Podcastage 7 лет назад +264

    This has to be one of the most interesting channels on youtube. Thanks for all the awesome videos!!!

    • @miaouew
      @miaouew 2 года назад

      Agree. Very relaxing.

    • @Liam-McFaddem
      @Liam-McFaddem 2 года назад

      quien fue el saco wea que puso el titulo en castellano ?

  • @ndfan1993
    @ndfan1993 2 года назад +37

    I would love to see an update on this - I feel prices on this vintage stuff have gone out of sight lately. That same Compaq he won for $25 is now $100+

    • @JamesKnox
      @JamesKnox Год назад +6

      judging by the comments the prices already went way up just as soon as he posted the video

    • @Tranzisto
      @Tranzisto 9 месяцев назад +2

      That's just the thing with all this retro stuff - everybody looks up the same people on RUclips, and unless you're already "in the know" from reading forums or Reddit or something to get to the stuff early, as soon as a video like this is posted the prices go way up. Simillar thing happened to the gameboy collecting - you can see people from ~5 years ago uploading videos of restoring "$5 junk gameboy" with ebay screeshots and all that - well, good luck finding a broken rusty piece of crap of a gameboy for less than 40 bucks nowadays. I am not complaining, though, since restoring a couple of those brought me a lot of enjoyment, just that since I was late to the party as well (being oneof those who learned about gameboy repairs on the RUclips) I noticed the same thing that these vintage electronics are nowhere near as cheap as they were 5-10 years ago due to all the info available on them in a convenient form of a short and concise vdeo.

  • @apparentlyretrograde
    @apparentlyretrograde 2 года назад +37

    I distinctly remember running a DOS clock limiter that throttled the CPU cycles on old hardware. I had to make use of these to enjoy all the stuff I had on my 8086, once I upgraded to my 486DX40 (quite a leap at the time).

    • @spanellaful
      @spanellaful Год назад +1

      Exaclty, I remember that too.... You needed a clock limiter to play old games!

  • @faisalal-ghamdi9868
    @faisalal-ghamdi9868 6 лет назад +46

    14:54 i remember this game ( the frog crossing the street ) when i was in first or second grade at my school in Saudi Arabia.
    It was very rear seeing a pc back days and crazy thing to use one

    • @notnice-9623
      @notnice-9623 4 года назад +11

      That'll be Frogger. Played it on the Xbox 360 Live Arcade.

    • @wohao_gaster7434
      @wohao_gaster7434 2 года назад +1

      rare*
      also the game is called frogger

  • @coolGreloaded
    @coolGreloaded 8 лет назад +37

    I'm not gonna build a vintage gaming PC, and yet I watched the whole video with utmost attention :/

  • @Plague470
    @Plague470 8 лет назад +30

    Even though i will probably never buy one of these, i had to stick around for the whole video, because it is so well made and interesting.

    • @thegardenofeatin5965
      @thegardenofeatin5965 8 лет назад

      +Plague470 That's like me and parrot videos. RUclips lets me enjoy adorable birds with bright colors, neat tricks and cute antics without the huge amount of effort it takes to raise one.

    • @kuroibuta
      @kuroibuta 8 лет назад

      +Plague470 Yeah me too. I just subbed recently. He is very good at making videos. I don't really care for the topic but I end up watching the whole thing.

  • @alfredthegreatkingofwessex6838
    @alfredthegreatkingofwessex6838 2 года назад +4

    I can’t wait for MS-TRES to come out

  • @goncalodumas
    @goncalodumas 13 дней назад

    March 2016! This was the masterpiece that sent me through the retrocomputing rabbit hole. Eight eventful years! Thank you!

  • @xisumavoid
    @xisumavoid 8 лет назад +84

    5:03 Tyrian! Love that game :-)

    • @natesmith9007
      @natesmith9007 8 лет назад +15

      Didn't expect to see u here

    • @CASTCorp
      @CASTCorp 8 лет назад +1

      I know you!

    • @Windwalker95
      @Windwalker95 8 лет назад +5

      I really did not expect to see you here as well!

    • @gbarrancos1
      @gbarrancos1 8 лет назад +1

      +xisumavoid Played it extensively. I do love Raptor - Call of the Shadows from Apogee which plays on the same league

    • @The1Rausch
      @The1Rausch 8 лет назад +1

      +xisumavoid knew it. born between 79 and 83... love your streams , keep it up x.

  • @wutzerface77
    @wutzerface77 7 лет назад +261

    i'm not even really that interested in playing old DOS games, but this was actually just a really good video. keep em coming dammit!

    • @aawwmm
      @aawwmm 5 лет назад +1

      Same here, just interested in old tech but most old games are not for me

    • @warrax111
      @warrax111 4 года назад +1

      that era was special, no grandmother, and parents could play it, and it was basicaly first generation, that could have computer at home, and play at least something. It was cool to watch even pixelated games, it was like miracle, because you knew, that all people that lived 10 years ago, never in their lives could play any computer games. And also, only nerds did it, as it was superexpensive. It had special magic. So it's only interesting for people, that lived through 80's and early 90's, because they remember that atmosphere, that ms-dos games had. For all rest, dos box is enough.

  • @kiyoshimatsutsuyu1931
    @kiyoshimatsutsuyu1931 4 года назад +1

    You're the best - this is EXACTLY what I was looking for; moving from classic PowerBooks to PCs of this era

  • @Rhamsody
    @Rhamsody 2 года назад +2

    I truly admire your passion and knowledge. It's a joy to watch, and yes, this is giving me great nostalgia. Thanks for posting!

  • @abloogywoogywoo
    @abloogywoogywoo 6 лет назад +113

    Me: I love old retro games! :D
    8-Bit Guy: You'll need this and this and this. This might not work and this might not work. This and this and this.
    Me: :c ...Maybe I'll just watch you play instead.

    • @suprlite
      @suprlite 4 года назад +8

      Or, as he said: you can just use your modern computer and a ms-dos emulator 😜

    • @leap123_
      @leap123_ 4 года назад +1

      @@suprlite like dosbox

    • @Raven10241
      @Raven10241 3 года назад +1

      @@leap123_ or better yet just install ms dos and your good to go

    • @Razerin
      @Razerin 3 года назад +2

      i watched this after the fact
      me: well sh*t

    • @supakusuta
      @supakusuta 3 года назад +3

      @@Raven10241 MS-DOS won't work properly on modern hardware, that's why DOSBox exists, I heard there was a modern version of DOS tho.

  • @obsoletegeek
    @obsoletegeek 8 лет назад +209

    Love love LOVE old portables! It's an addiction!

    • @Austin_2600
      @Austin_2600 8 лет назад +5

      Exactly

    • @armankordi
      @armankordi 8 лет назад +1

      +The Obsolete Geek got myself a PS/2 P70 with a gas plasma.

    • @lemonslice2233
      @lemonslice2233 8 лет назад +1

      My idea of an old gaming portable right now is the backlit Game Boy Advance. I spent too much time already gaming on old laptops (one 486 and one Pentium MMX)

    • @Austin_2600
      @Austin_2600 8 лет назад

      +LemonSlice I like to play Game & Watch systems.

    • @lemonslice2233
      @lemonslice2233 8 лет назад

      Austin 2600 Nothing against those. :)

  • @discovermajid
    @discovermajid 5 лет назад

    theres something about these videos - I end up watching them full because I don't know the pacing is perfect or your voice is perfect for this subject. in any case, awesome job. keep em coming

  • @AmigaBoingBlog
    @AmigaBoingBlog 4 года назад +86

    The older dos games what run too quickly, you can use a tool such as SLOWDOS or MOSLO and they will steal CPU cycles, making the game play at a decent speed. - also SLOWDOS and MOSLO work both on proper hardware and DOSbox Emulation as well

    • @wittgen80
      @wittgen80 2 года назад +8

      thx

    • @firerat1653
      @firerat1653 Год назад +8

      @Joe Beef Hash These videos don't really appear in yt suggestions; you got to be a weirdo to find them

    • @DanTDMJace
      @DanTDMJace Год назад

      @@joebeefhash3455Well, they are hobbyists.

    • @Kennephone
      @Kennephone Год назад +2

      @@joebeefhash3455 For some people the hardware is just as enjoyable as the games.

  • @TheTraumaFactor
    @TheTraumaFactor 8 лет назад +7

    I always get excited when I see a new post from +The 8-Bit Guy. We love you 8-Bit Guy!

  • @HarmonicaMustang
    @HarmonicaMustang 8 лет назад +25

    I use DOSBox for playing my old games. What I find interesting is that on some games, I still can't get past the same level I couldn't get past 15 years ago. I guess I'm a terrible gamer.

    • @ToonEugen
      @ToonEugen 8 лет назад

      I also use DOSbox to play some weird MS-DOS games. xD

    • @b747xx
      @b747xx 8 лет назад +1

      +DJ Shuffle Dosbox is the solution, as you can adjust the "CPU" speed

    • @Dxceor2486
      @Dxceor2486 7 лет назад

      You can also do this with a real computer

  • @mohhingman
    @mohhingman 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for producing this video 8bitguy. I liked how you explained the principles of getting the right type of TFT screen with 640x480 resolution, and get a sound blaster card in the laptop. Applying your principles, I picked the Panasonic CF-41 Toughbook. Mine is a pentium 90 with a 640x480 TFT screen and ESS audiodrive soundblaster.

  • @ABeardedDad
    @ABeardedDad 4 года назад +1

    This video is sensational. You are a master of your craft sir.
    some serious research and effort went into putting this together.

  • @pentiummmx2294
    @pentiummmx2294 5 лет назад +140

    Desktops
    Good: Easier to work on
    Bad: Too big and bulky and too heavy
    Laptops
    Good: Portable and small and easy to carry
    Bad: Harder to work on, find drivers for, or find parts for.

    • @cesaru3619
      @cesaru3619 4 года назад +3

      Solution: get a new house or a bigger room for desktop computers...

    • @lalalala5089
      @lalalala5089 4 года назад +17

      Or get a portable house to put your bulky desktop on

    • @itepk0522
      @itepk0522 3 года назад +1

      This is why I hate and love both of them

    • @Crixer234
      @Crixer234 2 года назад

      Laptops are good for overseas people with freight forwarders, shipping costs aren't way too high, 486/early Pentium desktop PCs are extremely expensive for shipping.

    • @QuantumScratcher
      @QuantumScratcher 2 года назад

      Also, desktops were LOUD (especially the older models).

  • @smal7812
    @smal7812 3 года назад +3

    That LAN party with a friend killed it :-D. Thanks so much for your great videos. Making quarantine easier...

  • @stevedevice1866
    @stevedevice1866 2 года назад

    I find your content uniquely calming. Looking forward to more.

  • @justinlloyd-jones1658
    @justinlloyd-jones1658 2 года назад +1

    Love these videos. Right from the opening music jingle. Like when your favourite tv show would start as a kid. Keep them coming :-)

  • @phictograma
    @phictograma 4 года назад +5

    12:23 That was awesome! I used to play DOOM a long time ago. Your channel is nostalgic! :)

  • @Fizzle738
    @Fizzle738 4 года назад +9

    I use this video for fun and studying English. Thank you 8 bit guy!

  • @DhinCardoso
    @DhinCardoso 2 года назад

    What an outstanding piece of info we have here - surfed through a dozen of videos and no one even came close.

  • @mikebez32420
    @mikebez32420 2 года назад

    I really enjoy your content David! Thank you for this stuff, I find everything you post just fascinating !

  • @nafion112
    @nafion112 3 года назад +5

    10:56 YES, very yes!!! I have like 12 oldschool systems, but by far my favorite for DOS retro gaming is my Toshiba 400cdt. If you're wanting to get into DOS retro but you don't yet have your first system, hold out for this one and pay the extra for it if needed, it's worth it.

  • @akgh2010
    @akgh2010 2 года назад +9

    I can't thank you enough for this wonderful video. You took me back literally 25 years or more and I thank you for that. I can only try to imagine the kind of efforts and preparation it took you to shoot a 16 minutes video. High respect.👍👌🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @FlorianPreissler
    @FlorianPreissler Год назад

    I follow your videos for a while now, you are a great guy and your videos are awesome!

  • @Ofotherworlds
    @Ofotherworlds 5 лет назад

    Your commodore episodes predated me by just a little. This, now this is my era. This is pure nostalga for me.

  • @darryllawler2777
    @darryllawler2777 8 лет назад +4

    Love your videos. Keep up this kind of content.

  • @nitrax8629
    @nitrax8629 4 года назад +14

    Pentium II and III laptops can actually be very good for later DOS gaming, just that not all work equally as well. A great machine I used to have was the Toshiba Satellite 4070CDT: it had a good ESS Maestro that was SB Pro compatible, and a 366MHz Celeron CPU. Sadly that died, and my M700 366MHz PII-PE had some weird DMA issues despite using the same sound chip! Upgraded it to a 650MHz PIII motherboard, and the sound worked again, and the GPU had a *much* better scaler (an ATi Rage Moblity)!

  • @TeaAndTankControls
    @TeaAndTankControls 11 месяцев назад

    Really great information, as always! I usually see the retro gamers with desktop computers, but as someone who has limited space, I appreciate that you went into laptops. I myself use DosBOX for convenience though...

  • @harrytaller9403
    @harrytaller9403 6 лет назад

    I was looking for this video, but could not find it by searching, Thanks The 8-Bit Guy, for making such beautiful retro ....

  • @DanieleGiorgino
    @DanieleGiorgino 7 лет назад +17

    3 minutes in and already this is so informative

  • @dantist06
    @dantist06 5 лет назад +15

    These Laptops are really hard to find nowadays. It took my almost two years to get both the Compaq LTE 5000 and Toshiba Satellite Pro 400CDT in perfect condition. But it's so worth it for classic DOS adventures and other games!

    • @CommanderMouse72
      @CommanderMouse72 4 года назад

      I got lucky and got given 3 satellite pro 430cdts, and a couple of the external floppy drives, only 1 worked but it worked perfectly and I still have it , scrapped the others for spare parts , the battery even works still

    • @KaedeAnimation
      @KaedeAnimation 3 года назад

      I think I will have to loan money to get this laptop

    • @pentiummmx2294
      @pentiummmx2294 Месяц назад

      i did grab a few Thinkpad 760s (760C, 760EL, 760XL) in varying conditions, i was hoping to make one working one with all 3

  • @geckoo9190
    @geckoo9190 6 лет назад +2

    This brought a lot of memories, from the first time that I took a computer class on msdos, we used floppy 5 1/4 disks, I had my whole ms dos os, lotus and a text editor there, that was on the late 90s by the way, a lot of technology gap back then.

  • @greg6500
    @greg6500 7 месяцев назад

    The 2 player thing with your friend there brought back fond memories :)

  • @PihkalTheTihkal
    @PihkalTheTihkal 7 лет назад +30

    There's an easy fix for the games that run to fast.
    I've once written a payload back in the days, it was in pure assembly and basically hooked itself to timer interrupt 1Ch.
    Once it activated it introduced a loop in the timer interrupt causing the pc to slow down.
    The amount of slowdown could be controlled by the amount of looping in the ISR.
    It's pretty easy to write such a routine in assembly and if you also hook in to INT16h (keyboard) you could control the delay with the keyboard whilst being in the game.
    It wouldn't interfere with the game as it was a TSR program that ran in the background.

    • @PihkalTheTihkal
      @PihkalTheTihkal 7 лет назад

      StrixNoctis Although you're right I've never encountered such a game.
      It's also bad practice to not jump to the original ISR code and could cause all kinds of issues depending on the hooked interrupt.
      But you probably know that already. ☺️

    • @goeuldi
      @goeuldi 6 лет назад +4

      A program written to slow down the machine...impossible to understand this today xD

    • @rmisionero
      @rmisionero 6 лет назад

      you can easily edit the code by running the MS-DOS editor to loop the game.

    • @stevebez2767
      @stevebez2767 6 лет назад

      Eventually a net of mandelbrots still biologically cant catch em but every o pixel is counted...used an c...!!

    • @Pistacho123Lol
      @Pistacho123Lol 6 лет назад

      Didn't laptops bring a TURBO button?

  • @russellmoore8187
    @russellmoore8187 4 года назад +3

    Oh man, so many memories of Monuments of Mars. That took me back!

  • @mugogrog
    @mugogrog 6 лет назад +1

    Never thought I'd see Ultimate Domain run ever again XD thanks for taking me back

  • @danieldougan269
    @danieldougan269 6 лет назад

    David is great at explaining complicated things.

  • @necrot777
    @necrot777 4 года назад +6

    14:40 That's what I was thinking, I've learned a lot with your videos. Greetings

  • @TechnologySpotlight
    @TechnologySpotlight 8 лет назад +7

    You really deserve more subscribers.

  • @livrai-nos234
    @livrai-nos234 5 лет назад

    Amazing Channel. Subscribed . Thank you for that incredible retro advices.

  • @markosberndt2065
    @markosberndt2065 2 года назад

    Great channel. Learning new things about the era I grew up in.

  • @RogerRHF
    @RogerRHF 8 лет назад +6

    Nice informative video, thanks for uploading. :)

  • @CrossXseven
    @CrossXseven 4 года назад +21

    This video litterally motivated me to search and restore some old laptops for my beloved Dos games an I have watched it just so many times!
    I'm currently building up some old pentium 1 and 2 laptops for dos/early windows gaming and aside from the Hardware point of view:
    Is it important which version of Dos is used? Are there some compatibility issues or one version overall more compatible than an other one?

    • @penfold7800
      @penfold7800 2 года назад +3

      As far as I'm aware, DOS 6.2.2 is the most usable one. ...and it has the added bonus of Windows 95 running flawlessly with it.

  • @lssjgaming1599
    @lssjgaming1599 6 лет назад

    This is just the video I was looking for!!! I want a classic gaming pc and this is amazing

  • @TheSdzisuaf
    @TheSdzisuaf 4 года назад

    Thanks for the compact flash tip!

  • @only1ydk
    @only1ydk 8 лет назад +3

    Great video! I think i'm going to buy a new MS DOS laptop to replace my old IBM, it's pretty cool but I would like to take my DOS games on the go. Hey I have a video suggestion for you, maybe you could also do a video about late 90s to early 2000's gaming PCs. That video would be freaking cool!

  • @totalnotarussianspy8845
    @totalnotarussianspy8845 4 года назад +3

    I actually recently found the Compaq 486 laptop and remembered this video.

  • @AdamTheSlave
    @AdamTheSlave 6 лет назад

    Okay, your channel is officially my favorite now.

  • @thear1s
    @thear1s 6 лет назад

    I've actually two of those old Compaq LTE laptops in my cellar, I'm digging them up right now!

  • @oliverhilton6086
    @oliverhilton6086 7 лет назад +110

    13:42 someone call druaga1....

    • @singleflips
      @singleflips 7 лет назад +7

      he might try this, but only if you give him weed in return...

    • @smpark12
      @smpark12 7 лет назад +1

      Oliver Hilton ikr

    • @ScottBeebiWan
      @ScottBeebiWan 7 лет назад +8

      Next week on Druaga1: SSD RAID in a 486

    • @oliverhilton6086
      @oliverhilton6086 7 лет назад

      I would pay to see that

    • @singleflips
      @singleflips 7 лет назад

      Oliver Hilton i would happily pay for a subscription to RUclips Red if Ian would start making content for that.

  • @tiberiusmagnificuscaeser4929
    @tiberiusmagnificuscaeser4929 5 лет назад +11

    You can buy some modern Dell machines that ship with an installation disk for FreeDOS, and open source remake of MS-DOS

  • @orbitaretroretro3907
    @orbitaretroretro3907 2 года назад

    Love this video... it has a lot of background work!!! really comprehensive!!! would love one with desktop pcs (but the one with LGR was really good!)

  • @ukaszgryka173
    @ukaszgryka173 3 года назад

    We used to be playing Duke3d all days, over 20yrs ago. No one had a laptop that time, thus one of us had to carry his desktop + monitor. Sessions were amazing, it was a great time...
    Thanks!

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife 8 лет назад +9

    There were some PCMCIA sound cards with AdLib/Sound Blaster compatibility, but they were rare and expensive when new, and thus virtually impossible to find today, especially with the required audio cable dongle.

    • @austinmueller6147
      @austinmueller6147 8 лет назад

      +vwestlife Hey fancy seeing you here! Haha I love your channel! Been subscribed since about 6,000!

  • @justcuriousjumperbot_6724
    @justcuriousjumperbot_6724 2 года назад +5

    You know they're enjoying it when you can see it without even hearing them laugh at each other.

  • @KingASE88
    @KingASE88 6 лет назад

    This is my third time watching this video, love it and your channel!

  • @CaptainKirk01
    @CaptainKirk01 3 года назад

    I just found your channel. This is very nostalgic as I'm 47, so grew I up on this stuff. I was a lucky kid as I had a Commodore SX-64 "executive" as my first computer, after an Atari 2600. It was heavy but I could haul it anywhere. I was 12 then. Anyway, my point of commenting was that I used to work for a company when they could no longer obtain hard drives for their legacy products other than the 20 and 40 GB drives as you showed. For the life of me, I can't remember what it was the process was called but used a low-level format that turned the drive into an 8GB drive. It was one way and you could not go back. The drive would permanently be an 8GB drive. That is an option for replacing those old hard drives.

  • @srburns6507
    @srburns6507 4 года назад +8

    Obrigado pelas legendas em português 👏♥️

  • @cptcrogge
    @cptcrogge 8 лет назад +3

    I can't agree with all points mentioned in this video...
    1. There existed some 386/486 laptops with sound cards, sometimes with rather exotic chips though. Some also support manual CPU settings (e.g for old games with hardcoded speed).
    2. Some of the Pentium laptops offered various sound card emulations as BIOS setting, also screen scaling can be sometimes set manually there.
    3. Proper CF cards don't wear out quickly, I personally use SLC based cards like the Transcend Industiral CF200I, Win98 is spamming a lot of data on it by filling the virtual memory and its showing still no issues. Those cards support SMART and emulate IDE properly.
    4. Lot of old laptops do support rather large drives if you set the size (sectors, heads...) manually in BIOS.
    5. There are various ways to connect to your LAN even if there is no PCMCIA slot in the laptop, also many DOS apps support proper networking.
    I like the part where you show that the serial port can be used to transfer data and play games with/against each other, even games like Age of Empires 2 (1999) still supported it. And I also like the part where you show that the printer port can be used to connect a sound card, many ppl nowadays don't know what kind of magic can be done with that good old port.

    • @Zestypanda
      @Zestypanda 8 лет назад

      Also, dosbox can be used to do null modem connection over lan.
      also, if you disable l1 cache on a pentium it will run at 486 speed, if you disable l1 and l2 it will run at an almost 386/286 speed, fixing the speed issues.

    • @itabiritomg
      @itabiritomg 8 лет назад

      +Zestypanda you can easily control the frame rate on dosbox. no need for fancy stuff.

  • @dr1877
    @dr1877 4 года назад

    I just found your channel.. I like it! Your videos bring back so many memories. :-)

  • @victorha9923
    @victorha9923 4 года назад

    This is so awesomely nerdy in a genuine way.

  • @BFKAnthony817
    @BFKAnthony817 8 лет назад +13

    Hey bud you are from Fort Worth too!? Awesome to see that! I had no idea you were a fellow Texan. I guess most of us lost our Texan Twang living in such a large city. XD

  • @solidus3168
    @solidus3168 6 лет назад +5

    Ah yea!!! DOS Games, i used to LOVE going through CD-ROM and floppy DOS games at Walmart cause they always had these big "grab-bag" style setups

  • @ericmagana9457
    @ericmagana9457 5 лет назад

    Watching you and LGR got me nostalgic for DOS gaming this video got me to buy a vintage Laptop, wasn't able to get a 486 unfortunately :(

  • @sencadas32
    @sencadas32 2 года назад

    Simply, fantastic video!!!

  • @danielfouke1823
    @danielfouke1823 8 лет назад +10

    I have to correct a few misconceptions that you have in this video. I am a semi expert on Commodore hardware.
    1. NO WEB CONNECTION/WEB BROWSER:
    There is indeed Three ways to get the Commodore machine on the internet... most of these methods also work with other period hardware, including your old dos machine (just use your rs232 port connected to a rs232/tcip wrapper server, i use a rasberry pi b+ for this)
    The commodore can use a plug in cart that give the Commodore network connectivity, a plug in cart to add rs232 port to the computer and connect to the above mentioned, a diy user port expansion for rs232 for less that 4 dollars, and an actual wireless network device that plugs into the user port.. In fact, there is a version of Java that also runs on this hardware. Three web browsers exist, and also two web servers also. You can also connect to irc and tweet with no problems!
    2. STORAGE SOLUTIONS: Sd card solutions exist as well as modern hard drive solutions *max atm 25 gig storage. The Commodore 1581 3.5" floppy predates others, released 1985. At 700k storage and using fast load routines it can load most games in under a minute.
    3. OPERATING SYSTEMS: Cp/m opensource (before being ripped off by Micro$oft and patented (pre 1977) ,GEOS berkley softworks (once again micro$oft sued to keep it tied up in courts while the patent ran out and then filed for the patent themselves, putting the company out of business , wonder where micro$oft got there windows 1.0 framework from huh LOL ), Conqui (a modern graphical os that runs entirely in ram, with email web browser, word processor, database out of the box), CLunix (Commodore based lunux solution)
    4. ADD ONS: FPGA plug in cart makes emulating any hardware a breeze such as memory expansion, z80 add on for cp/m, super cpu, even transforming the machine into entire other hardware, such as atari 800 or amiga 1000 using the commodore hardware as a frontend. Connecting to any modern tv via svideo is also supported right out of the box on original hardware, or using the fpga vga port.
    While were on the subject, if you knew anything about the atari 2600 hardware you held in your hand you would know that by simply opening the box and soldering 3 wires you can connect it up to a modern tv via s video, or if your tv doesn't support svideo, get a amazon/ebay converter for 10 bucks..
    Some of your assumptions on storage methods are misguided, others are just outright incorrect. In this era, simply boosting the drive capacity was enough that old disks would not read/write in a new drive. Other manufactures, such as commodore, took to reading there disks then processing the data through a rom lookup decode table to expand drive space by dropping the last bit of the byte stored *and a reason commodore drives were slower than there simular counterparts. Others, like apple, in the same time period, had generally a lower storage space because they did not employ such methods until much later, and read there disks in reverse to commodore, thus they were generally faster. In this time frame it was very common to see a double sided disk with commodore on one side and apple/dos on the other. Same disk.
    On today's hardware, I can read and write commodore formatted disks in my windows 10 machine with a 5.25" floppy drive (and before you say it, yes i know this is suppose to be impossible also, LOL). I can even use the hard drive on my windows computer and load commodore games directly to the box and play them via network. To the commodore, it thinks it is just another cmd hard drive Also, you can simply connect the Commodore drive to a breakout board using the original i2c bus, using a level shifter with a ftdi chip, and connect via usb if you wanted to, or use the printer port and connect directly to the drive. You just have to know what you are doing.
    Use a backpack 3.5 " drive connected to your dos machine's printer port and those low capacity disks suddenly become read/writable once again.
    I do have a winbook (cant have any idea why you didnt suggest this one) for dos games when I feel the need to drag it out of its resting place in the closet.
    Some purest scene guys would argue that new hardware produced for vintage systems is not vintage hardware. I contend that if it runs on the vintage hardware, it is vintage hardware. The commodore scene has expanded at a very rapid pace over the last few years, and the hardware options have exploded. You just have to know where to look.
    Hopefully that cleared up a few things. Thanks

  • @dannygjk
    @dannygjk 6 лет назад +3

    12:34 Friend blown up into chunks conveniently sized for large freezer bags.

  • @allanfulton8004
    @allanfulton8004 3 года назад

    Playing Duke Nukem with your friend brought back memories of my friends and I playing video games in the late 80s

  • @galevgeniy8684
    @galevgeniy8684 2 года назад

    Another awesome video! Kudos.

  • @whattheheck1000
    @whattheheck1000 5 лет назад +5

    When this video came out, I just knew that the ideal DOS gaming laptop would be something from the mid-1990s. My guess was spot on.
    May 3, 2019 3:17 am

  • @tutubi
    @tutubi 5 лет назад +5

    2:59 the music sounds like "Piece of Time", pure speed metal from the italian band "Labyrinth". Just look for it on RUclips. Now, the question is WHY?!

  • @jay_cadiramen
    @jay_cadiramen 5 лет назад

    Fantastic video and really brings back memories.

  • @TheVikingamerican
    @TheVikingamerican 4 года назад

    I just happen to have a Pentium 75 Compaq Laptop w/ TFT......... with WIN98 also installed on it. It comes with a CD-Rom & Floppy... & it boots fine. I still have about 100 MS-DOS programs (many from Packard Smell & V-tech Laser as part of their bundling). You are inspiring me to start looking at my extensive old computer collection (Timex Sinclair 1000, Commodore Vic 20, 64, 128, Apple 2 GS, Apple Macintosh Color Classic w/ scsi CD-rom, Portable Macintosh (the 1st one), Commodore Amiga (used to be used at a Cable Company), Toshiba Infinia 75, and a whole slew of parts and other computers as well. Original MS-DOS software including databases, spreadsheets, and word processors. Man, you really have got an excellent channel to go over these gems.

  • @GANCHO1997
    @GANCHO1997 5 лет назад +140

    Instructions unclear, ended up installing DosBox.

    • @O5RandDrMoss
      @O5RandDrMoss Год назад +11

      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    • @crispycuero
      @crispycuero 11 месяцев назад +5

      Instructions unclear, ended up installing viruses.

    • @literaltaco
      @literaltaco 11 месяцев назад +9

      Instructions unclear, ended up installing DosBox inside a dos computer.

    • @Espadasilenciosa
      @Espadasilenciosa 10 месяцев назад +1

      And I ended up installing freedos

    • @yanfox905
      @yanfox905 9 месяцев назад +1

      Comment unclear, the author did not understand

  • @hikaru-live
    @hikaru-live 7 лет назад +60

    What about running games inside a virtual machine? For newer games that is not dependent on CPU clock speed your favorite virtualisation software, VMware, Virtualbox, and even the Hyper-V built into 64-bit Windows 10 will work. For older ones that depend on the CPU clock you can use Bochs. Almost all virtual machine software I know can play two-player game that used to require a serial cable, by tunnelling the serial traffic generated in the virtual machine through something else on the host machine, usually TCP/IP. So you can just put the game virtual machine files onto a file server, boot up two modern computers, grab that virtual machine image, set the serial port to a TCP/IP tunnel and game with your friend that way, probably over Ethernet (or if you have set up port forwarding on your router, over the Internet)

    • @Cpt.Zenobia
      @Cpt.Zenobia 7 лет назад +6

      i agree virtual machines & emulation are better.

    • @marcustoro9869
      @marcustoro9869 7 лет назад +9

      but its not the same thing

    • @marcustoro9869
      @marcustoro9869 7 лет назад +8

      you want the feeling of some retro!

    • @dan.quachlinh
      @dan.quachlinh 7 лет назад +3

      you can build a machine that has the look of those old computers and modern hardware inside them. Then let the machine boot directly into an emulator of those old computers. You have the look and feel of the old, you have the convenience of the modern hardware.

    • @hikaru-live
      @hikaru-live 7 лет назад +1

      Quách Linh Đan An even better solution: use virtualization, you can run multiple virtual machines with variou old operating systems on it and connect to it using something like VNC as needed. This will allow you to have access to your old game library with any device that is capable of VNC: old computers, new computers (old or new chassis,) mobile phones, even Raspberry Pi's.

  • @tatfung
    @tatfung 5 лет назад

    Thanks for this info, I just realised that I can run the bubble bobble game with the DOSBox on my MacBook 12 inch, brings back so much memories.........it just made my day ^^

  • @WelcometoVideoCity
    @WelcometoVideoCity 5 лет назад

    Such a fantastic video, so helpful!

  • @boscoalbert8303
    @boscoalbert8303 8 лет назад +56

    Can someone tell me what is the name of game at 3:40 ?

  • @GeekInfusion
    @GeekInfusion 8 лет назад +3

    was that a model of K9 on your shelf with all the vintage computers? that is absolutely fantastic! I think I also saw a Dalek there?

    • @The8BitGuy
      @The8BitGuy  8 лет назад +4

      +Matthew Burt Yes, I have a remote controlled K-9 and a dalek.

    • @GeekInfusion
      @GeekInfusion 8 лет назад

      +The 8-Bit Guy that's awesome :D love Dr Who

    • @Ballissle
      @Ballissle 8 лет назад

      +The 8-Bit Guy I have 3 large remote controlled daleks but sadly no k-9. I really want a K-9 now and only one dalek still works. I have a functioning sonic screwdriver though: ) Love all these vintage Computers and games even though I never used one. I wonder how they did video effects in 60s 70s and early 80s?

  • @UNIROCKtv
    @UNIROCKtv 6 лет назад

    such a well done thorough video
    impressed. subscribed

  • @jihoonkorea
    @jihoonkorea 2 года назад

    thanks man. totally worth watching this video. touching.

  • @FunAtStreaming
    @FunAtStreaming 4 года назад +137

    Me trying to buy even one of those recommended laptops on ebay: $199 O.O

    • @androidtechgeek
      @androidtechgeek 4 года назад +17

      Damn. You found one that cheap?

    • @MrG0re
      @MrG0re 4 года назад +9

      Just found one for 20 bucks in sweden. Guy sold it "cheap" becaus there was no "power supply" LOL

    • @nicholasbrooks7349
      @nicholasbrooks7349 4 года назад +2

      MrG0re it was probably stolen.

    • @nowthatsjustducky
      @nowthatsjustducky 4 года назад +2

      I think I am just going to see what I can do with the Dell Dimension CPx my nephew gave me years ago. At one time, I think I had some sort of Linux on it, then a very painfully slow XP. Now I have a very basic DOS 7.10 off the Windows 98SE install CD on it with a someone broken 98SE build that I can get to with win. I think I will eventually see if I can get the 98 build usable, then get DOS level sound and networking going, and toss in WfW 3.11 as well as a lightweight Linux. Ultimately though, this will be my DOS gaming laptop.

    • @clementpoon120
      @clementpoon120 4 года назад +4

      Already cheaper then modern laptop

  • @AnonymousPhucker
    @AnonymousPhucker 4 года назад +5

    also with duke nukem multiplayer the one who has the server has 0 ping and one who "dials" has 300ms ping - even with null modem cable

  • @DonRobertson82
    @DonRobertson82 2 года назад

    That compaq laptop was my very first laptop! It was a 486DX - Can never forget the trackball mouse mounted on the monitor part.. loved it back then

  • @nathanhunzeker6033
    @nathanhunzeker6033 2 года назад

    This brought back so many memories! My first computer had an 8088 processor. I was such a rebel teenager when I played "Leisure Suit Larry I: In the Land of the Lounge Lizards!". 😁